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Next meeting info?
by Martyn Drake 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

Hi folks, Firstly, for those that witnessed the death of my laptop on the last meeting - it's now been replaced by PC World with a spanking new one and hope this one doesn't die on me (at least for the next three years until I buy a new laptop!) Secondly, I'm going to get in contact with Roger Whittaker from SuSE to arrange the presentation for our next meeting. I'll need to know the date and time (and room number at the UEA) and I'll will definately go and book it and get confirmation. Regards, Martyn

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How do I get rid of empty 15Mb Partition please?
by Terry Filby 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

Am getting on very well with Mandrake Lnx4Win - Linux on windows partition - but, on one of my previous abortive attempts to put Linux on a separate partition, I couldn't delete everything, and, despite going into Fdisk on Windows and in Linux I still have a 15Mb empty Partition. I have a 4.3 Gb HD with two Fat 16 partitions - 2047 on C:, 2063 on D: The empty partition is on D:, I have System Commander 2000 with graphic representation of the HD, and you can see the errant partition, but, if I try to amalgamate it in D:, it's got to be a Fat 32 drive, which I don't want. Any suggestions please? If I haven't made it clear enough, please e-mail with any queries. Everything works ok as is, but I don't like having 15Mb doing nothing that I can't delete! Terry

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Cambridge Linux user group
by Adam Bower 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

Hi all, I just found this in cam.misc thought you may be interested it will start around midday. Don't know where/what CB2 is though any ideas? I will try to find out later if poss. Hello everyone Richard Smith, of Cambridge Linux User Group, calling in. (our website is www.cam-lug.org.uk ) We have got a "Linux-fest" combined with "Installfest" this Sunday. The venue is CB2, where we will have the use of the basement (that's not as bad as it sounds - it is done-up for drama, poetry readings, recitals, etc!) This will be the second "Installfest" held by the group. The previous one last year was a great success, with a few people just turning-up and the CLUG group having a good chance to network computers together, do installs, get specialist software "up", etc. 'fraid we have all been busy doing our things, so here I am thinking "oh my god, got to put out some publicity fast...". So, if you want to bring along a computer and install Linux on it, that's the purpose of the "Installfest" part of the event. General advice: - definitely, make a backup of everything valuable on the computer - all you documents and so on. Sod's Law says if you don't make a backup, something is sure to go wrong! - evaluate the two main ways to put Linux on a system for the first time. One is to partition the hard disk, so that an unused portion becomes separate partition(s) for the Linux system. The other way is to install a separate hard disk dedicated to Linux. The latter is probably an attractive option if you already have a lot on you computer. Oh groan - I'm not even sure how much space a Linux distro needs these days - it's easiest to do a "full install", which takes up a couple of gig's, but a lean install will fit on just a few hundred meg's. I hope to be doing a quick presentation on the programming language "C". You may know that C is the "native language" of unix, and has been adopted for general use across quite a range of programming. It is used for major algorithm-writing now in mathematics (trust me - that's good!), science and engineering - which is where I met C. I will be outlining just the "special" parts of C - the ones which cause either a deep fear or euphoric liking for the language (there isn't much in between!). A week or two of BASIC at school is intended to be plenty enough grounding for this talk. Richard Smith -- Adam Bower Tel: +44 1223 525000 System Administrator Fax: +44 1223 525100 Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com Newton House, Cambridge Business Park, Cambridge. CB4 OWZ. England

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Announce meetings
by John Woodard 17 Jun '00

17 Jun '00

Where on Usenet should we announce the next meeting apart from uk.comp.os.linux and pcplus.linux? There seem to be so many new Linux newsgroups out there I'm not too sure where is appropriate. Cheers, BJ

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Demo of Zeus things,
by Adam Bower 17 Jun '00

17 Jun '00

Hi all, Not at the meeting on Sunday but maybe at the next one would any of you like a demo of some of the Zeus software? I would probably be able to bring a fair amount of kit to do a load balancer demo, a webserver demo and also could demo our new product Zeus MHE (Mass hosting edition) which is designed for ISP's to use as a managment tool. If you think this is a good idea then let me know and I will see what I can work out. Thanks Adam -- Adam Bower Tel: +44 1223 525000 System Administrator Fax: +44 1223 525100 Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com Newton House, Cambridge Business Park, Cambridge. CB4 OWZ. England

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Re: [Alug] Kernel Panic
by Simon Jude 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

-----Original Message----- From: Edward Kelly <Edward.Kelly(a)uea.ac.uk> To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Date: 16 June 2000 08:51 Subject: [Alug] Kernel Panic >Hi there, > >You won't have heard much from me, but I have been following the mailing >list for a while and now I have a question. > >I have recently purchased Linux Mandrake 7.0 and am trying to install >Lnx4win on my E: partition. I tried to install Linux as a dual boot option >but it causes my Windows partition to becom i n c r e d i b l y slow and >unuseable. Since I am using the computer for my doctorate I cannot afford to >let this happen (I had to re-install everything after the last crash - >caused by Linux) but if there is a way of installing Linux on another >partition without it affecting the performance of my Windows system then I >would dearly love to know how. I think my Windows partition needs to know >that a UNIX drive is attatched to the system and live with it (which seems >like a tall order to me!) > Hi, If you want to prevent any problems with your windows system then your best bet is to buy another disk and install linux on that. I have an old 2gb disk with redhat on and I can boot it from my windows disk using loadlin. Using this you can then mount the windows disk if you need access to it. This prevents the risk of causing any problems on my windows disk which contains a lot of my research work. Simon School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia, University Plain, Norwich, NR4 7TJ Telephone (01603) 593124 Fax (01603) 507719

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The Best Possible Linux Laptop Solution (Personal Use)
by Tatsuhiko Maekawa 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Hullo I am thinking of getting a new laptop, now that everything becomes so INconvinient ever after I left the UK - and miss my lovely Siemens Nixdoft computer. (Tokyo sucks!) My question: which one's the best? Give your wishful thinking please. List of my considerations: - Main use is "web development" and "Palm Development" - Might need to use both "client" and "server" dually. Maybe enough to run JavaBean and Servlet (argh). - Require Windows - preferably better if Windows run in Linux (using VMWare, for example) - No DVD necessary - Size doesn't matter, and I really don't care. - Available companies: All Japanese companies you can come up with + Compaq + Dell + Gateway. ----- Tatsuhiko Maekawa [Network Integration Dept. System Div.] Computer Engineering and Consulting, Tokyo Japan mailto:t_maekawa@cec-ltd.co.jp

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You know when you begin to hate Solaris when..
by Martyn Drake 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

.. a script that you run called "bash" that sets up a few variables and runs a few programs ends up being entered on the command line as "bah!". Regards, Martyn

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ApacheConn 2000 Europe
by Dr. Ashley T. Howes PHD 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

This isn't strictly Linux, but I thought people might be interested in it. There is an Apache event planned for: Conference: October 23-25 2000 Exhibition: October 24-25 2000 Olympia Conference Centre London, UK It is going to cover a load of stuff (over 60 sessions) including: Security & Ecommerce Securing Apache on Unix and Windows Java, PHP, Perl, TCL, Python, XML, XSL Performance, load balancing and case studies Apache installation, compilation, configuration scripting languages and dynamic content (mod_perl, mod_php, mod_jserv, ASP) Tips for writing Apache modules More information is supposed to be available at http://www.apachecon.com/2000/EU/, but the piece of paper I have in front of me has more information on it currently. Oh well. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Internet Developer Email: ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness" [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Alug 8
by John Woodard 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Who's coming, what they bringing. I'll definitely be there with 'Dellboy' my trusty laptop running Mandrake 7. Also 'Rodney' my main box which I can't seem to get ATA66 working on so some help there please. and at least one other machine running whatever distro I decide to bung on it this week if I have the time. Plenty of power leads and network stuff, 5 port hub etc., tea/coffee/bikies and anything else I can think of. Cheers, BJ

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Mandrake 7.1
by John Woodard 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Anybody out there with bandwidth to spare (Brett?) who could download the iso images for Mandrake 7.1 cds 1 and 2 for me? 650meg and 350meg bit too much for a 56k modem me thinks. Cheers, BJ

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Next meeting and website
by Toby Jaffey 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

Can anyone tell me when the next meeting will be, now that I am back in Norwich. Also, is anyone actively maintaining the alug site? -- (o_ | Toby Jaffey : www.nott.ac.uk/~psystrj/ //\ | Real Programmers don't write in BASIC. Actually, no programmers V_/_ | write in BASIC. . .after age twelve.

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News from a Traitor!
by Terry Filby 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

I'm very much a devotee of Linux, particularly so since Andrew installed Debian on my computer at the Aylsham meet. My trouble is that I still don't really understand partitioning and lilo, so my attempts to install Linux myself have been doomed to failure. Until, that is, I got Mandrake 7.0 De Luxe, which must be the easiest distro now available. I started to try to install it in the usual way with the program automatically doing the partitioning - all went well, until, like all the other distro's I've tried before, it didn't boot, but, on looking more closely, I saw that the partion that it was on, originally 2063Mb was now 2071Mb! How did that happen! So I tried the easy way, installing it on the same drive as my Windows 98SE, in dos. And it works! Of course, it's much slower than a 'proper' Linux installation, but at least I now have KDE et al in a form I'm much more sure about! Terry

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Linux Tie
by Terry Filby 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

Saw the ad in the Joff Magazine and sent for the Linux Tie with lots of little Tux's on it, it came this morning. One to wear at the meets? Though, unfortunately I can't manage the next one, pity, because Sylham is nearer to Beccles than UEA. Terry

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What's just happened...
by MJ Ray 08 Jun '00

08 Jun '00

Hi, In case you're just wondering what happened, UUEAS (ie the stu.uea.ac.uk domain) just put its new mailserver in place today. It means that minimalist is no more, but the list is hosted on the new system. It also means: If you only got digest versions, you need to go to the web address that was given in the last post and reselect that (everyone's on the normal form to begin with, I'm afriad). If you've been trying and failing to get off of this list, it should now work ;-) We'd be sad to see you go, though. You can do some more generally clever configuration via the list interface. Archives are automatic. Things that look like list server commands or spam will be trapped. You have to post to the list from your registered address. You might have to reset your filters. The service is still beta <g> I think that's it. Here's hoping it works better than the old one! -- | MJR "Everything is planned, from -- crime to leisure time."

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Delusions?
by MJ Ray 06 Jun '00

06 Jun '00

I thought this might entertain some of you. From Issue 15 of Brave GNU World, <URL:http://www.gnu.org/brave-gnu-world/issue-15.en.html>: """This part was originally triggered by an advertisement of the German "Wirtschaftswoche" (translates to "Business Week") that spread big posters all over the city of Hamburg, Germany stating "Every Generation has its role models." The background picture shows stone busts of Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte and Bill Gates. If it weren't for Bill Gates I would have considered this ad to be a bad joke; but as this is the "Business Week" and Bill Gates is the richest man on earth, I must assume they are being serious. What does it say to declare these people role models? Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte were might-ridden conquerors and egomaniacs whose wars caused suffering for hundreds of thousands of people - even if their own population might have seen a slight advantage for a short amount of time. At some point both of them lost contact with reality and deemed themselves almighty. Caeser declared himself dictator and was murdered whereas Napoleon bit off more than he could chew and was exiled. Had there been more space on this picture I guess Attila and Ghengis Khan would also fit into this row pretty well. All of these persons are very much historical and they certainly changed the face of the world. But role models?""" -- | MJR "Everything is planned, from -- crime to leisure time." [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Samba help needed
by John Heaser 02 Jun '00

02 Jun '00

I need help (paid) with getting an HP Netserver to act as a shared file area between an HP Unix box and W98 PCs. The Netserver has been loaded with Mandrake from the recent PC Plus cover cd but then things came to a halt! The plan is to mount the Linux box as an NFS partition to the HPUX and use Samba to make it visible to the W98 PCs and perform the unix to windows ASCII end of line conversion. We are just trying to make it easy for PC users to get at data extract files that are created on the HPUX. The customer site is in Bedford and I would like to prototype the set up here before delivery by using another Linux box (I have Red Hat on a PC) to represent the HPUX. The work can be done at Diss or in Norwich. Commercial rates can be paid to someone proficient in Samba etc. -- Regards John Heaser [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Playing Music
by suffolkchess＠clara.co.uk 31 May '00

31 May '00

Thanks to everyone who suggested ideas for playing music now the problem is mp3's , I know my music is working but I am having problems with X11amp to play my mp3 i downloaded I know it's downloaded o.k I can add it in the list in X11amp but not listen to it. Are there any other good simple MP3 players individuals can recommend for Redhat 6.0 using Gnome or KDE Finally I have never managed to workout mounting my floppy drive. Thanks for offering time to help me Regards Scott Taylor [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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PPP: ping/dns OK but no FTP/telnet...
by Neil Sedger 28 May '00

28 May '00

RE this problem (hmm about an eon ago due to a broken modem...) I found the solution on the RHA support web forum. Go to /etc/ppp/options and add novj novjccomp in there. Works fine now. Currently using linuxconf, with a masq 'gateway' working. Next step is using wvdial (so it redials when busy) and then dial-on-demand. Nice. Neil MJ Ray wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 01:24:35AM +0100, Neil Sedger wrote: > > No, I don't think so, because I've never had a problem on Windoze... > > and I've never tried a different ISP on Linux... > > Have you? > > Yes, I have at least 7 other ISPs working fully with Linux. I have not had > Windoze on my home machine for well over two years now. > > > Is it RedHotAnt that give us this problem? > > Yes. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Getting Music to work in Linux
by suffolkchess＠clara.co.uk 27 May '00

27 May '00

Being quite new to Linux can anyone help me I'm wanting to get music to work in Linux but have not got a good idea of how to do it. I have a CMI8330 16bit PnP Sound Card compatible with Soundblaster 16 and Windowa Sound System I sure there must be someone out there who can help Regards Scott Taylor [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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IRC
by Gareth Watts 24 May '00

24 May '00

I intended to mention it a while back, but I created a channel on the OpenProjects network for ALUG, if anyone feels like using that.. The server is either: irc.openprojects.net or irc.linux.com (same network) Channel: #ALUG My job basically entails sitting on IRC all day, so if nothing else, I'll be in there ;-) Gareth. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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IRC!
by Martin Harding 24 May '00

24 May '00

Hi, I'm a newbie here and on a steep learning curve to linux too :) but an old hat at IRC. would love a channel for local-ish linux chat :) I'm on DALnet most of the day and if a chanel is started there I would be interested. I'm on #hyper most of the time so If anyone needs help starting the channel up, give me a call cya Martin Harding (Nick = Neo`) martin(a)mharding.screaming.net [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Tommorows Meeting
by Brett Parker 20 May '00

20 May '00

Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting tommorow (Sunday 21 May). It is in the usual room 133 (is that right mark?) in the Union House building at UEA. Hope to see you all there, Brett Parker [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Anyone Around
by scott taylor 19 May '00

19 May '00

Hi It's Scott from Bury St Edmunds is there anyone from Bury interested in Basic/Advanced Linux I'm running Red Hat 6.0 at the moment. From Scott Taylor [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Debian Potato
by Adam Bower 19 May '00

19 May '00

Hi all, Do we want a Potato CD set for Sunday? I have an up to date local mirror here mounted via nfs on /debian and one of the developers has a cd burner on the other side of the room. How would I go about getting potato onto CD? Is there some CD making scripts? Adam -- Adam Bower Tel: +44 1223 525000 IT Engineer Fax: +44 1223 525100 Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com Newton House, Cambridge Business Park, Cambridge. CB4 OWZ. England [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Who's around
by Julian Froment 19 May '00

19 May '00

If whoever started "Who's around" is still interested in who is in the Cambridge area, I work in Bar Hill and live in Somersham (nr St Ives). I am a relative newbie to Linux and am also trying to learn C programming. Julian julian(a)jfroment.uklinux.net [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Introduction / OT LDAP, SAMBA, Netatalk, PAM
by Joe Frost 16 May '00

16 May '00

Hi, Just a note to introduce myself and ask a question... My name is Joe Frost and I work at a software company based near Saxmundham in Suffolk. We have been using Linux for around 5 years (first Slackware for DNS and Sendmail, then later RedHat 5.1 for QMail, and now RedHat 6.x, Caldera OL 2.x, Turbo Linux 6, and Cobalt appliances for development). I'm the IT bloke so I have very little to do with coding but get involved extensively in the network, hardware, and OS side of things. If you want to know more about the company's products then email privately as I don't want to spam the list with that stuff. Now the OT bit... I've recently taken it upon myself to try and come up with a Netware 4.x replacement based around Linux (probably RH 6.x), and am looking at using OpenLDAP and PAM for user authentication against the directory to support services like SaMBa, Netatalk, POP3 and IMAP. I've got quite a bit of stuff working but I would be interested chatting to anyone who has experience with this kind of thing. Hope to speak to (at least some) of you soon. Best regards, Joe Frost I.S. Engineer Omnis Software Ltd. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Who's around
by Adam Bower 16 May '00

16 May '00

>> Isn't that a cambridge >linux user group ? (I think >the site went down >> or something) > >There is/was. I nearly >moved there so looked them >up but took it >no further. Someone at work today said that there is still a Lug in Cambridge. They are going to get me the url tonight and I will post it here tomorrow. I will also see if can find a CD-R drive at work so I can burn a Potato cd set for this weekend. Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Who's around
by Daniel Smith 15 May '00

15 May '00

In article <01BFA949.AD6075F0.tim.clarke(a)manifest.co.uk>, Tim Clarke <tim.clarke(a)manifest.co.uk> writes >Newbie to ALUG calling; any members around Witham? > Hi I've got a 'bit' of an e-mail backlog here hence only just reading this! But if your interested I'm in Braintree! -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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diald problem..
by Neil Sedger 15 May '00

15 May '00

Hi all I've got ppp working fine, using scripts linuxconf generated. But diald doesn't like it. It tries to bring up the connection when it should, but then bombs out when starting pppd: May 15 00:55:32 passage pppd[5515]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0 May 15 00:55:32 passage pppd[5515]: Using interface ppp0 May 15 00:55:32 passage pppd[5515]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS2 May 15 00:55:35 passage pppd[5515]: Remote message: ^@ May 15 00:55:36 passage pppd[5515]: Peer is not authorized to use remote address 212.41.40.37 May 15 00:55:37 passage pppd[5515]: Hangup (SIGHUP) May 15 00:55:37 passage pppd[5515]: Modem hangup May 15 00:55:37 passage pppd[5515]: Connection terminated. Normally (if I run pppd from the shell without diald) I get the 'Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS2' line then it tells me local and remote addresses and off I surf... any ideas? Checked the diald/ppp howtos and FAQs and they don't mention it...? Cheers Neil [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Next Meet
by Green J M K 14 May '00

14 May '00

Hi all, Confirm me as present. Do you guys want me to bring the Debian potato CD of 2000-04-09? It's now over a month old, maybe a new CD could be made? Andrew? I am now running woody, fwiw. James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Mandrake on Laptop
by Rob Smith 13 May '00

13 May '00

Helo, As you may remember my last e-mail I was considering installing Mandrake on my laptop, well now I've done it and I have to say I am very impressed, it auto detected all my hardware, even my PCMCIA combined Lan/56k modem and installed the correct drivers (I was very wary of this). Now however I have a problem..... The contrast is really bad. It is far too bright and the icons look really washed out. I have tried turning brightness down/contrast up but to no avail what should I do?? TIA Rob [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Who's around
by Adam Bower 13 May '00

13 May '00

>Anyone here lurking in >cambridge ? > yes me i'm in Cambridge. I've only been here a week tho. I just moved down from Norfolk to take a new job. >Isn't that a cambridge linux >user group ? (I think the site >went down >or something) > Hmm, I'll ask at work. Adam (on palm pilot & mobile phone) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ADVERT: www.kangaroot.net
by Andrew Savory 11 May '00

11 May '00

Some info. Should relevant adverts be posted to the list? Let me know what you think... Andrew. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:36:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Kangaroot <peter(a)kangaroot.net> To: list(a)kangaroot.net Subject: www.kangaroot.net Dear, Kangaroot launched the largest European Linux shop on april 12 and of course we wanted to tell you all this. We aim to be the best, biggest and cheapest Linux shop for European users, and certainly for enthusiasts like you. We're selling all major distributions, applications and games, books and gadgets (tuxes, tshirts, jackets, ties,...) Please pay us a visit, and do tell your fellow LUG members about Kangaroot. But we're not only here to advertise for ourselves... we're sending you this mail to outline our upcoming plans as well. 1) Soon, we plan to launch a complete european online Linux community, for which we're looking for partners. We will offer users the possibility to ask questions about linux, in their own language, which will be answered in their own language. But for this we need a couple of partners in each region, to help us out...these people will receive the necessary information on how they will be rewarded. If you, or one of your members, is interested to become a partner please mail us on partners(a)kangaroot.net 2) If your LUG has a website, please contact us for more info on advertising, bannerexchanges, registration on our LUG pages, etc... you can contact us also at partners(a)kangaroot.net 3) In the very near future LUGs will receive a group-code which members can use when ordering at our store. By using this code points will be added to the LUG - account for which many goodies for the whole crew can be purchased! A page will be published one of these days to subscribe but you can mail us allready and we'll manually put in your data. We hope you really like the ideas... and are welcoming you in our store. Most regards Peter Dens Kangaroot [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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You have been Selected!
by dvi＠dreamvacationsinc.com 10 May '00

10 May '00

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RedHat
by scott taylor 10 May '00

10 May '00

Is it worth upgrading to Redhat 6.2 I am on Redhat 6.0 at the Moment. Regards Scott [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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File attributes of /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS1
by Michael 09 May '00

09 May '00

Would somebody tell me why /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS1 keep losing their write attributes after running a bog standard pppd dialup script? Ta. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Alug 29
by Brett Parker 08 May '00

08 May '00

OK - the room has now been booked for Alug 29. Its in the same room at UEA as it has been held before and is booked for the 21 May. Mark said sommit bout a SuSE person and are they coming to this one or the next, seens as I haven't got a clue about this would someone please work out what he's going on about ;) Rite - its between 1400 and 1900 probably followed by bar, hope to see u all there. Brett (Ho hum, as usual there be the nice signs pointing the way from the car park) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Socks5
by Chris Glover 08 May '00

08 May '00

Hi All, Here's one for you, My Linux box is running an IP MAsquerading firewall, I am trying to configure socks5 for it. I've downloaded it and it compiled fine, but the HOWTO seems to relate to a different version of socks, and the examples arn't what you'd call easy to follow. HELP!!!! Cheers Chris -- Chris *************************************************************************** E Mail Chris(a)glovercc.clara.co,uk WWW http://www.glovercc.clara.co.uk ICQ 18054759 Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Wed May 3 22:59:02 2000
by Terry Filby 07 May '00

07 May '00

All being well, after my first ALUG meeting at Aylsham, I hope to come to the May 21 meeting, but, will be bringing the same hangers-on (!?) as I did in Aylsham (non-computer buffs) - my wife and small dog Roger. Is Roger allowed in UEA grounds ( we always clear up extraneous products as any owner should!)? If not I will come again when possible as June 18th is a no-no, though Sylham is very convenient for me. Cheers Terry Beccles, Suffolk alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > 6 messages in this digest: > Re: [alug] Mandrake > Re: [alug] Mandrake > Re: [alug] Mandrake > Re: [alug] Mandrake > Re: [alug] June meeting booked > Alug 29 > > === MESSAGE 1 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake > From: MJ Ray <markj(a)oplex.thebrickhouse.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:44:55 +0100 > > Adrian Kiddle wrote: > >itself correctly for my soundcard, but at the end of the day I felt safer > >with Red Hat (being a relative newbie to Linux). > > Now this surprises me: every time I've seen a RedHat release, it has > been broken in some way(s) and there's no sign that things are getting > any better with it. The documentation that comes with it has also > left me unimpressed, but that's a general problem apart from Debian > (which is too steep a learning curve for most newbies, IMO) and SuSE. > Why do you feel safer with it? Is it just because an increasing > number of authors are documenting RedHat instead of Linux? > > (Don't get me wrong: everyone is free to use whatever they want, but > I've normally pointed newbies away from RedHat towards SuSE or > Mandrake because RedHat is usually broken. If that's wrong, I > probably ought to know why.) > > -- > | MJR "Everything is planned, from > -- crime to leisure time." > > === MESSAGE 2 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake > From: MJ Ray <markj(a)oplex.thebrickhouse.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:45:59 +0100 > > simon wrote: > >I don't get any of this hassle, my version of Mandrake uses red hat 6.5, the > >system does not take that much longer to boot than OS/2 or MS windows whatever > >it is, but the longer time is the price you pay for a system that does > >the job properly (someone should explain this to Mrs Gate's boy). > > Is now a good time to point out how much faster a BSD-style init > system comes up (eg on slackware) than a SysV one (as used on Redhat, > Debian et al)? Probably not, but my old system boots in around 30s > with all services running ;-) > > Back to the point in hand: I did try Mandrake a while back during my > multiple re-installs (it was at 6.something), but as I haven't used an > RPM-based system for a couple of years now, I found the documentation > I was given after installing was practically non-existant and I > couldn't get the system tailored to how I wanted. It was very slick, > though, and I'd rate it as alongside Storm for ease of installation, > ahead of most of the established distributions. > > -- > | MJR "Everything is planned, from > -- crime to leisure time." > > === MESSAGE 3 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake > From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:05:07 +0100 > > On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:02:36PM +0100, Green J M K wrote: > > <pedant> > > GIMP is not a GNOME application. It does not require it to run. > > </pendant> > > Hmm... come in a pedantic swine, go out something to hang on a > necklace? > > Hrm.. </pedant>. See, told you you didn't close it ;) > > Paul > > === MESSAGE 4 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake > From: Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> > Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:48:48 +0100 > > MJ Ray wrote: > > [SNIP] > > > (Don't get me wrong: everyone is free to use whatever they want, but > > I've normally pointed newbies away from RedHat towards SuSE or > > Mandrake because RedHat is usually broken. If that's wrong, I > > probably ought to know why.) > > Nope, it's not wrong. But then, as I'm an avowed SuSE-phile, you'd > expect me to say that. I just find that SuSE gives me the best of all > the worlds, which I accept is a compromise in some areas, but one I'm > happy to make because overall, it's so much easier and thence more > reliable. > > Cheers, Laurie. > > === MESSAGE 5 === > Subject: Re: [alug] June meeting booked > From: Adam Bower <adamb(a)thebowery.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:28:46 +0100 > > On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 06:49:43PM +0100, John Woodard wrote: > > > > ALUG 8 or 30 depending on your numbering system is booked for Sunday 18th > > June 2:00 - 6:30 at Syleham Village Hall as guests of the Syleham and > > Wingfield Computer Club as before. More details nearer the time but it > > would be an ideal venue for a guest speaker - stage, P.A. projector screen > > etc. > > > > I hope to be coming, but I'm moving to Cambridge this weekend as I have a new > job, I belive there is a Cambridge Lug though so maybe I could contact them and > do a tie in meeting or something? > > Adam > > === MESSAGE 6 === > Subject: Alug 29 > From: Brett Parker <B.Parker(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:38:59 +0100 > > OK - the room has now been booked for Alug 29. Its in the same room at > UEA as it has been held before and is booked for the 21 May. Mark said > sommit bout a SuSE person and are they coming to this one or the next, > seens as I haven't got a clue about this would someone please work out > what he's going on about ;) > > Rite - its between 1400 and 1900 probably followed by bar, hope to see u > all there. > > Brett > (Ho hum, as usual there be the nice signs pointing the way from the car > park) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ppp connection
by Doug Tulloch 05 May '00

05 May '00

Been tied up with other stuff until now but belated thanks to all concerned with ALUG6. Special thanks to the guys who helped me with various minor problems - didn't get your names I'm afraid. Unfortunately...... Regarding the problem with using ppp as non-root, I can now connect to the net as both root and non-root but find that Netscape and Lynx behave as if there was no connection. This happens both non root and root, it was OK as root before. It's probably something pretty obvious but I can't puzzle it out. Any ideas? Please? -- Doug Tulloch [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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June meeting booked
by John Woodard 03 May '00

03 May '00

Hi all, ALUG 8 or 30 depending on your numbering system is booked for Sunday 18th June 2:00 - 6:30 at Syleham Village Hall as guests of the Syleham and Wingfield Computer Club as before. More details nearer the time but it would be an ideal venue for a guest speaker - stage, P.A. projector screen etc. Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Mandrake
by Ian Thompson-Bell 02 May '00

02 May '00

I've installed Mandrake Linux, given away with the recent issue of PC Plus, on my laptop and I love it. Kernel compiled for Pentiums, automounting of floppy and CDROM, a lovely install interface and a range of X windows managers. Anyone else tried it? Ian Ian Thompson-Bell The Technology Partnership plc Melbourn Science Park Melbourn Herts SG8 6EE United Kingdom Tel: +44 1763 262626 Fax: +44 1763 261582 mailto:itb@techprt.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Debian Queries
by Terry Filby 01 May '00

01 May '00

What is the info for configuring sound in Debian please? I have a book that I got with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 - 'Sams Teach Yoursel Linux in 24 hours' (no chance!) that mentions 'insmod' but Debian doesn't approve! What is the right way to configure sound in Debian? Also, with printing, it's configured with A4 size paper, mine is 8 1/2" x 11" tractor paper - where do I alter the size? Thanks in anticipation! All the Best Terry [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Breakthrough in Online Auctions]
by Paul Russell 29 Apr '00

29 Apr '00

Kindly remove alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk from your mailing list. alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk is a list address and is not intended for use as a channel for unsolicited advertising. Failure to comply will result in my seeking assistance from your upstream provider and/or telecommunications operator. Paul Russell Postmaster and Cluster Administrator, The Union of UEA Students (stu.uea.ac.uk) ----- Forwarded message from info(a)ez-auctions.net ----- Envelope-to: paulr@localhost Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=paulr) by nc1a.nca.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12leJS-0001g3-00 for <paulr@localhost>; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:58:06 +0100 Received: from pop.uea.ac.uk by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.4) for paulr@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:58:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from [139.222.230.3] (helo=mailgate3.uea.ac.uk) by mailserver1.uea.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12leHj-00005p-00; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:56:19 +0100 Received: from stu.uea.ac.uk [139.222.197.41] by mailgate3.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 12leEM-0002aH-00; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:52:50 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by stu.uea.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.5) id VAA49183; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:52:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from pallas.host4u.net (pallas.host4u.net [216.71.64.48]) by stu.uea.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA49163 for <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk>; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:52:04 +0100 (BST) From: info(a)ez-auctions.net Received: from bossbert (host62-6-15-161.btinternet.com [62.6.15.161]) by pallas.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA15316 for <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk>; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:51:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:51:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200004292051.PAA15316(a)pallas.host4u.net> To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Reply-To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [alug] Breakthrough in Online Auctions X-Sender: minimalist(a)stu.uea.ac.uk X-Mailing-List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk X-Mailing-List-Owner: alug-owner(a)stu.uea.ac.uk X-Mailing-List-Server: Minimalist v2.0.1 (Black Sea) Hi there, You've been sent this mail because of your interest in auctions. WWW.EZ-AUCTIONS.NET LAUNCHES NEW SECURE WEB AUCTION SERVICE ----------------------------------------------------------- Want to be involved with online auctions but are afraid of the risks? Don't be - come along to www.ez-auctions.net! We are a UK based auction with an emphasis on security, a first for the web! Just look at some of the bargains you are currently passing up: * Microsoft Encarta 2000 brand new and boxed £10 (no reserve) * Compaq DeskPro complete pentium PC system £100 (no reserve) * Brand new 450MHz PC - ideal home office £250 If you're a more traditional auction-goer, take a look at our collector's section: * WOW! Genuine Charles and Diana wedding cake, in box £250 * Immaculate Mk II 70's Raleigh Chopper £50 * Official signed Formula 1 photograph £25 ... and much much more. Pay us a visit today at www.ez-auctions.net - best of all it's FREE! [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ----- End forwarded message ----- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Breakthrough in Online Auctions
by info＠ez-auctions.net 29 Apr '00

29 Apr '00

Hi there, You've been sent this mail because of your interest in auctions. WWW.EZ-AUCTIONS.NET LAUNCHES NEW SECURE WEB AUCTION SERVICE ----------------------------------------------------------- Want to be involved with online auctions but are afraid of the risks? Don't be - come along to www.ez-auctions.net! We are a UK based auction with an emphasis on security, a first for the web! Just look at some of the bargains you are currently passing up: * Microsoft Encarta 2000 brand new and boxed £10 (no reserve) * Compaq DeskPro complete pentium PC system £100 (no reserve) * Brand new 450MHz PC - ideal home office £250 If you're a more traditional auction-goer, take a look at our collector's section: * WOW! Genuine Charles and Diana wedding cake, in box £250 * Immaculate Mk II 70's Raleigh Chopper £50 * Official signed Formula 1 photograph £25 ... and much much more. Pay us a visit today at www.ez-auctions.net - best of all it's FREE! [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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unsubscribe
by Maddie Thompson 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

[ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SuSE speaker at next Alug meeting?
by Martyn Drake 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

Would anybody be interested in getting a guest speaker from SuSE into our next meeting? I'm determining the costs and other arrangements involved and will let everyone know how things go. Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SuSE talk details..
by Martyn Drake 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

Roger Whittaker from SuSE writes:- > I have a talk which I've done with success at Manchester and Leeds LUGs - > it's in 3 parts > > Linux in Schools > Open Source Theory > Latest Developments > > No need for a projector, takes an hour: more with questions and good give > and take. He says it's possible that he can do the 21st May, but will need to check. Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SuSE 6.4 on it's way..
by Martyn Drake 26 Apr '00

26 Apr '00

Although I've not been about to offer the boxed version of SuSE 6.3, I am pleased to announce that I'm now receiving the full boxed set of 6.4 and will definately try to make it for the next meeting with both 6.3 and 6.4 copies for those that want it. Apologies for not making it to the last meeting, but ISP duties keep getting in the way of things :| Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Fwd: cooperation: Linux@work, London
by Martyn Drake 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

For anyone who is interested... ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:40:35 +0100 > From: Roberto Zicari <zicari(a)ltt.de> > Reply-To: zicari(a)ltt.de > Organization: LogOn > Subject: cooperation: Linux@work, London Dear Martin, I would like to verify if we can cooperate with your association. Our company, LogOn Technology Transfer (http://www.ltt.de) organizes a "Linux@work" conference & exhibits on May 17 in London. The event is open to all- at no cost (see below for the call for participation). I would like to offer ALUG to be listed among the supporting sponsor of the event and you could distribute info material to the attendees- at no cost for you. In return, I would appreciate if you could actively help promoting the event. Please let me know if this is of interest. Best Regards Roberto Zicari President LogOn ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Linux@work"London, May 17: Call for participation Real solutions for putting Linux to work in business; Free Conference & Exhibition; London, May 17 ----------------------------------------------------------------- LogOn is announcing "Linux@work" in London, a one-day conference and exhibition on Linux for business on May 17. ++ The conference and exhibits are at no cost -- open to all. ++ The day has been designed to help IT professionals evaluate and/or implement Linux in their businesses. The full conference program is available at: http://www.ltt.de/linux/lon_00.html If you wish to attend, simply fill in the registration form you'll find on the Web. We'll send you your free ticket. Linux@work is supported by the Free Software Foundation, and sponsored by Compaq, Connectus, Fujitsu Siemens Computers, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Informix Software,Inprise, Intel, Linuxcare, Lotus Development, Mission Critical Linux, Omnis Software, Oracle, SCO, SGI, Silicon Graphics, SuSE and VMware. ** Please distribute this call for participation as you see proper.** LogOn ## ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]
by Chris Glover 20 Apr '00

20 Apr '00

Does anybody else have problems with receiving mail from dermot(a)higrade.botwritghts.farm? I don't think I've ever received a mail from him. I use fetchmail to download mail from several places, which then delivers to my linux box. This works OK, except for sending domains that don't exist. If the person who sent this could please FIX their email program so that it has their correct email address, it would be much appreciated. Many Thanks Chris Mail Delivery System wrote: > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The > following address(es) failed: > > dermot(a)higrade.botwrights.farm: > unrouteable mail domain "higrade.botwrights.farm" > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > Return-path: <FETCHMAIL-DAEMON(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk> > Received: from [212.126.134.196] (helo=glovercc.clara.co.uk ident=root) > by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) > id 12i0FL-000PO6-00 > for dermot(a)higrade.botwrights.farm; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:34:48 +0100 > Received: from localhost (IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by glovercc.clara.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01087 > for <dermot(a)higrade.botwrights.farm>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:34:48 +0100 > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:34:48 +0100 > Message-Id: <200004191934.UAA01087(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk> > From: FETCHMAIL-DAEMON(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk > To: dermot(a)higrade.botwrights.farm > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="om-mani-padme-hum-914-1-956172888" > > --om-mani-padme-hum-914-1-956172888 > Content-Type: text/plain > > Our spam filter rejected this transaction. > > --om-mani-padme-hum-914-1-956172888 > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; chris > Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:34:48 +0100 (BST) > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: 501 <dermot(a)higrade.botwrights.farm>... Sender domain must exist > > --om-mani-padme-hum-914-1-956172888 > Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers > > X-From_: minimalist(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 00:38:22 2000 > Envelope-to: chris(a)glovercc.freeserve.co.uk > Delivery-date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:38:22 +0100 > Received: from [139.222.197.41] (helo=stu.uea.ac.uk) > by mail13.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) > id 12hhZV-0006U7-00; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:38:21 +0100 > Received: (from daemon@localhost) > by stu.uea.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA23043; > Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:38:17 +0100 (BST) > Received: from higrade.botwrights.farm (IDENT:root@ppp-1-116.cvx5.telinco.net [212.1.152.116]) > by stu.uea.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23035 > for <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:38:12 +0100 (BST) > Received: from glade.perl.connectfree.co.uk (dermot@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by higrade.botwrights.farm (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA00945 > for <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:38:09 +0100 > Sender: dermot(a)higrade.botwrights.farm > Message-ID: <38FCE462.657E7EB4(a)glade.perl.connectfree.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:40:34 +0000 > From: Dermot Musgrove <dermot(a)glade.perl.connectfree.co.uk> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.1 i586) > X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > References: <20000418203250.A9384(a)stats200.mth.uea.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Reply-To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Subject: [alug] ALUG 1up -- regularising things > X-Sender: minimalist(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > X-Mailing-List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > X-Mailing-List-Owner: alug-owner(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > X-Mailing-List-Server: Minimalist v2.0.1 (Black Sea) > > --om-mani-padme-hum-914-1-956172888-- -- Chris *************************************************************************** E Mail Chris(a)glovercc.clara.co,uk WWW http://www.glovercc.clara.co.uk ICQ 18054759 Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Thanks
by Adam Bower 20 Apr '00

20 Apr '00

> I conspicuously failed to make it, which is very irritating, since the > next one is bound to be more then five miles from my house :-) > > Still, it looks like it was good -- I shall definitely be at the next > one... > > Aq. > > It would of been nice to see you as you cristened this Alug 28, anyway hows the nipper? Suppose you've been busy recently? Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux Expo 2000
by Justin Jonas 19 Apr '00

19 Apr '00

Just a little info that turned up in my mail box that may be of use to members of the group Linux Expo 2000 - Register Now & Save #15 ========================================= 1st - 2nd June Olympia London Now in it's second year, Linux Expo brings together all the major players in the Linux computing sphere to provide the definitive review of all the latest products and services emerging around Linux. If you are involved in IT management or applications development, visit Linux Expo and meet over 70 exhibitors including Red Hat, SuSE, Turbo Linux, Corel, IBM, Intersystems, Mandrake Linux, Intel and Alphanet Linux. Register Now for FastTrack entry and save #15 visit http://www.emedia-uk.com/links/itevents_linux2000.htm NEED A HOTEL - 4 Star Hotels @ 2 Star Prices in this area: http://www.emedia-uk.com/links/laterooms.htm Justin Jonas [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 1up -- regularising things
by Aquarius 19 Apr '00

19 Apr '00

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 08:32:51PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > After ALUG28, some of us hung around and discussed where the group should go > from here. It's now a year since a few of us started tentatively making > connections and organising the first meeting at Woodbridge, and there's a > general feeling that we should start to gear up as Linux is beginning to hit > the big time. There's also still the equally strong conviction (from myself > and BJ at least!) that we still need to avoid committee-ism and keep this > thing running in the vaguely anarchic Open Source spirit. I agree. Not that I'm one to talk, having failed to make ALUG28, but that's not the point. More and more people are starting to become peripherally aware of Linux (I'm helping out a bloke at work, a lawyer (!)), and, as they do so, we'll become a useful resource :-) > One of the main points suggested is to make the meetings regular monthly > affairs. I think we're currently intending to hold them on the third Sunday > afternoon of each month, alternating between UEA Union House and Syleham > Computer Club at first. I'll confirm Union House tomorrow hopefully. BJ? > If anyone else has a venue we can work into the routine, shout now. Where's Syleham? It's not in my atlas, but it is an atlas of the world, so Syleham probably isn't important enough ;) > Talks were another strong suggestion. Probably at most two talks of at most > 20 minutes at each meeting. Hopefully, this way, we can cover common > questions like dialup, printing, sound, desktops, getting started, etc > I'm tentatively prepared to do some... can we put a "talks wanted" and a > "talks offered" form on the site, Andrew? This is a very good idea, IMHO. I've had an idea for a paper on the idea of Open Source methods for about four months now; if this ever makes it into something approaching a paper rather than an idea of a paper then I'll be happy to deliver it at an ALUG meeting. I will also watch the talk on printing in intense detail, because I can't work it out. Aq. -- For your information, some people think I'm very funny -- Joe Hallenbach, "The Last Boy Scout" [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 1up -- regularising things
by Dermot Musgrove 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

MJ Ray wrote: [...] > the big time. There's also still the equally strong conviction (from > myself and BJ at least!) that we still need to avoid committee-ism and > keep this thing running in the vaguely anarchic Open Source spirit. Hear, hear. [...] > and then we can print them off and put them in local > computer shops, etc. Of course, we'll need to keep track of where they've > been posted. Another web form, Andrew? ;-) Does anyone have a URL for a list of computer shops in the area - and especially those that understand Linux? Perhaps this could be another page on the ALUG website. Regards, Dermot [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 1up -- regularising things
by Tim Clarke 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

Bugger. Too far for me, boys and girls. ---------- From: Paul Russell[SMTP:Paul.Russell@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 18 April 2000 21:49 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [alug] ALUG 1up -- regularising things On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:23:37PM +0100, Tim Clarke wrote: > Is that UEA at Colchester? If so, I'll come. Close. Norwich. Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 1up -- regularising things
by Tim Clarke 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

Any Essex Uni denizens listening? ---------- From: Andrew Savory[SMTP:A.Savory@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 18 April 2000 22:10 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [alug] ALUG 1up -- regularising things On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Tim Clarke wrote: > Bugger. Too far for me, boys and girls. Convince James or one of the other nice Essex University types to arrange the next meeting there.... Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 1up -- regularising things
by Tim Clarke 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

Is that UEA at Colchester? If so, I'll come. Tim Clarke AMBCS MIAP, IT Director, The Manifest Voting Agency Ltd Phone: +44 1 376 503500 Fax: +44 1 376 503550 Email: tim.clarke(a)manifest.co.uk THIS EMAIL MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. IF YOU ARE NOT THE NAMED ADDRESSEE YOU MUST NOT USE OR DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION ---------- From: MJ Ray[SMTP:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk] Sent: 18 April 2000 20:32 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [alug] ALUG 1up -- regularising things Hi all, to both the 20 or so that made the Aylsham meeting and the rest of you out there on the mailing list, (yes, you can probably consider yourselves all "members" of ALUG, whatever that means!) After ALUG28, some of us hung around and discussed where the group should go from here. It's now a year since a few of us started tentatively making connections and organising the first meeting at Woodbridge, and there's a general feeling that we should start to gear up as Linux is beginning to hit the big time. There's also still the equally strong conviction (from myself and BJ at least!) that we still need to avoid committee-ism and keep this thing running in the vaguely anarchic Open Source spirit. One of the main points suggested is to make the meetings regular monthly affairs. I think we're currently intending to hold them on the third Sunday afternoon of each month, alternating between UEA Union House and Syleham Computer Club at first. I'll confirm Union House tomorrow hopefully. BJ? If anyone else has a venue we can work into the routine, shout now. Talks were another strong suggestion. Probably at most two talks of at most 20 minutes at each meeting. Hopefully, this way, we can cover common questions like dialup, printing, sound, desktops, getting started, etc I'm tentatively prepared to do some... can we put a "talks wanted" and a "talks offered" form on the site, Andrew? In the organisation, we need to divide up the major linux publications and websites between us and make sure that all of them get each meeting announcement. If you're up for being an ALUG rep to one or more places, shout now. The other side is to print more posters for each meeting. Gareth foolishly said he could get some posters designed and uploaded as PostScript -- we'll hold him to it and then we can print them off and put them in local computer shops, etc. Of course, we'll need to keep track of where they've been posted. Another web form, Andrew? ;-) OK, that'll do for now. Discussion to the list. Flames to /dev/null. Abuse to me ;-) MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Hello Linux advocates... another one in.
by Wilkinson, Mark 10 Apr '00

10 Apr '00

Hi Ian, I live right on the edge of town on a new estate called Heritage Park aka Park Farm. It's the last roundabout on the A605 before Whittlesey, just past Stanground. Cheers. Mark Wilkinson http://www.wiggis.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Thompson-Bell [mailto:itb@techprt.co.uk] > Sent: 10 April 2000 16:44 > To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Subject: [alug] Hello Linux advocates... another one in. > > > Hi MArk, > > I was brought up in Peterborough. Where abouts do you live? > > Ian > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Mark Wilkinson, I do > RedHat stuff and > > I live in Peterborough. I'm married and I have 2 kids, 2 > cats and a rather > > stupid dog. Am in the process of (re)building a little > p150-base redhat box. > > In addition to this, I'm looking after 2 other machines, > one out on the 'net > > and another one doing mailserver duty on a client site. > > > > Cheers. > > > > Mark Wilkinson. > > http://www.wiggis.com > > > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > > > > > > > Ian Thompson-Bell > > The Technology Partnership plc > Melbourn Science Park > Melbourn > Herts > SG8 6EE > United Kingdom > > Tel: +44 1763 262626 > Fax: +44 1763 261582 > mailto:itb@techprt.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Hello Linux advocates... another one in.
by Wilkinson, Mark 10 Apr '00

10 Apr '00

Hi Guys, Just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Mark Wilkinson, I do RedHat stuff and I live in Peterborough. I'm married and I have 2 kids, 2 cats and a rather stupid dog. Am in the process of (re)building a little p150-base redhat box. In addition to this, I'm looking after 2 other machines, one out on the 'net and another one doing mailserver duty on a client site. Cheers. Mark Wilkinson. http://www.wiggis.com [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: unsubscribe alug
by Dave J Armour 10 Apr '00

10 Apr '00

--- Hi this is dave if you did not know On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 05:25:48 Dave J Armour wrote: >pleae stop sending me this messages because you are sending me insane with your constant bombardment of e-mails from the ALUG group!!!! > > >--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- >Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > >[ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] >[ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] >[ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] >[ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Scary X problem
by Adam Bower 08 Apr '00

08 Apr '00

Hi all, I just noticed that when I'm connected to the net and startx a load of data goes out and then in again according to the lights on my modem, I have no great knowl edge of X and would like some pointers to whats happening if possible. I'm running Debian frozen at the moment with a home brew kernel and Ipmasquerade and firewalling setup (I hope fairly securely) I'm just really paranoid though Are there any good sites for info on X? or at least books as the man pages are a bit daunting at the moment. see ya all later Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Exact location of Alug 28
by Adam Bower 07 Apr '00

07 Apr '00

Hi all, Just checked http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk and Andrews got the map up. The friendship club is at junction of Yaxely's lane, Pound Lane and Mill road on the top right hand corner of the map. Any further questions for me to answer? Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Alug 6
by Adam Bower 07 Apr '00

07 Apr '00

Hi all, I'm going to cancel the venue for Alug now due to a lack of enthusiasm. If I'm wrong then let me know asap, It's just only two people have muttered anything to the effect that they are coming, Let me know though if its just everyone going on holiday/home in their uni easter break. I'm sorry if I sound pessimistic but it looks as though the current part of the mail archive is broken and everything looks grim. Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Tue Apr 4 22:59:03 2000
by Terry Filby 07 Apr '00

07 Apr '00

I'll start by giving you a resume of my computer in case it has a bearing on the trouble I am having with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2. Computer: Packard Bell Executive 200MHz (Upgrade - CenterHauls x86 Family 5 Model 4 Stepping 1 200MHz MMX), S3 (I think) 1Mb Graphic Card, 48Mb Physical Memory, American Megatrends Bios, version 100.05CP0R, dated 4/15/96, 4.3 Gb Hard Drive partitioned by FDisk into 2 equal size partitions - C and D, FAT16. Have no trouble with installing Linux, just rebooting it. Tried several times with PartitionMagic on Linux disk with no success and couldn't partition on D as I wanted, so bought on-line System Commander 2000, it too has, so far, been unsuccessful but there are signs (encouraging?). I was able to partition D, it said Linux is bootable, which it still isn't and also said that I must be sure to select Root Superblock choice - I would, but have no idea where this is located. In both cases, with PartitionMagic and System Commander, when I try to reboot Linux, it goes to the first OpenLinux page that I first saw when I installed it, with Boot at the top and (sometimes) a second line, but the next thing ALWAYS happens! It boots back to the opening Bios first-page. What am I doing wrong or is some part of my equipment not compatible with Linux? If you need other info, let me know, and I will do my best to supply it. Thanks, I hope you can help me solve this, all I wanted to do is to have a look at Caldera Linux!. Terry alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > 13 messages in this digest: > Re: [alug] Alug 6 > Re: [alug] Alug 6 > Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > Re: [alug] Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > What I can bring > CheepLinux > Next ALUG meeting > Re: [alug] Next ALUG meeting > Free magazines... > Re: [alug] Free magazines... > Download manager on gateway? > Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > > === MESSAGE 1 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Alug 6 > From: "John Woodard" <john(a)woodard.freeserve.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:07:47 +0100 > > I'll be there if anybody needs a lift from Diss onwards contact me off list. > > I need a hand getting SUSE 6.3 on a machine so perhaps an installathon!!! is > called for. > > Cheers all, > > BJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Green J M K <jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk> > To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 10:16 AM > Subject: [alug] Alug 6 > > > I shall be there, assuming I can get transport from Norwich. > > > > Andrew/others? > > > > > > James. > > > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > > > > > > === MESSAGE 2 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Alug 6 > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:08:08 +0100 (BST) > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Dave Cook wrote: > > > When and where is this next meeting please and is it open to all or > > only a limited number of people. > > I'm new to Linux, but would like to attend and learn. > > See the other messages to the list and the website > (www.anglian.lug.org.uk) which will be updated with details tomorrow. It's > open to all, the more the merrier! > > Andrew. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > === MESSAGE 3 === > Subject: Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > From: Terry Filby <m02we400(a)cwcom.net> > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:01:12 +0100 > > I've only just joined ALUG because I'm an absolute beginner in Linux and am having > great difficulty, so it's disappointing to see ALUG is not exactly thriving. If > individual help to me is possible somehow, please let me know. > > Thanks > > Terry > > alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > > > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > > > 1 messages in this digest: > > Alug 6 > > > > === MESSAGE 1 === > > Subject: Alug 6 > > From: Adam Bower <adamb(a)thebowery.co.uk> > > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:11:05 +0100 > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm going to cancel the venue for Alug now due to a lack of enthusiasm. > > > > If I'm wrong then let me know asap, It's just only two people have muttered > > anything to the effect that they are coming, Let me know though if its just > > everyone going on holiday/home in their uni easter break. I'm sorry if I sound > > pessimistic but it looks as though the current part of the mail archive is > > broken and everything looks grim. > > > > Adam > > === MESSAGE 4 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:20:37 +0100 (BST) > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Terry Filby wrote: > > > I've only just joined ALUG because I'm an absolute beginner in Linux > > and am having great difficulty, so it's disappointing to see ALUG is > > not exactly thriving. If individual help to me is possible somehow, > > please let me know. > > Hi Terry, > > You've just hit a low spot - I guess a fair number of our members are away > dealing with university-related pressures. Why not come along to ALUG28 on > 16th April, or if you have any questions feel free to post them to this > mailing list and we'll do our best to help. > > Andrew. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > === MESSAGE 5 === > Subject: What I can bring > From: Justin Jonas <Justin.Jonas(a)Kingswood.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:24:44 +0100 > > At the moment I see no reason why I should not be able to attend > > I have Boxed definate Linux deluxe, Mandrake 7(PC Plus coverdisc - expect > most of you will probably have this), Corel Linux(1 disc), Suse 6.2 Boxed, > Suse 6.4(single disc- got from Suse stand at Windows2000 show! (it was the > best bit of the show) - I cant make up my mind which distro to use :) > > I may also be able to dig up > > Redhat 6.0(1 CD) > WinLinux 2000 final beta > PhatLinux > > Let me know if any of this will be useful? > > Justin Jonas > > === MESSAGE 6 === > Subject: CheepLinux > From: Justin Jonas <Justin.Jonas(a)Kingswood.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:27:47 +0100 > > http://www.cheeplinux.com/ > > might be useful > > get Linux for #2.99 > > Justin Jonas > > === MESSAGE 7 === > Subject: Next ALUG meeting > From: Justin Jonas <Justin.Jonas(a)Kingswood.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:32:15 +0100 > > Can we clear something up is it ALUG 6 or ALUG 28? > > If ALUG 28 where were the other 23 meetings? > > Justin Jonas > > === MESSAGE 8 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Next ALUG meeting > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:39:23 +0100 (BST) > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Justin Jonas wrote: > > > Can we clear something up is it ALUG 6 or ALUG 28? > > Yes! > > > If ALUG 28 where were the other 23 meetings? > > IIRC, Adam kindly volunteered to host one of the later ALUGs in North > Norfolk - he said around ALUG28 or so. Since we didn't have any other > venues that we hadn't already visited many times, we decided to hold > ALUG28 after ALUG5. > > I suspect ALUG6 will be after ALUG28. Almost as confusing as Sun's OS > numbers... > > Andrew. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > === MESSAGE 9 === > Subject: Free magazines... > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:30:52 +0100 (BST) > > Hi all, > > As of the June issue a magazine called D Cafe will be expanding from Java > to include linux. They have free subscriptions to offer to around 10,000 > people. > > If you would be interested in receiving the magazine, email me with your > postal address and I will collate and forward the details to D Cafe. > > Andrew. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > === MESSAGE 10 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Free magazines... > From: "Ian Thompson-Bell" <itb(a)techprt.co.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:23:58 +0100 > > > > > Hi all, > > > > As of the June issue a magazine called D Cafe will be expanding from Java > > to include linux. They have free subscriptions to offer to around 10,000 > > people. > > > > If you would be interested in receiving the magazine, email me with your > > postal address and I will collate and forward the details to D Cafe. > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > Put me down please, > > Ian > > Ian Thompson-Bell > > The Technology Partnership plc > Melbourn Science Park > Melbourn > Herts > SG8 6EE > United Kingdom > > Tel: +44 1763 262626 > Fax: +44 1763 261582 > > mailto:itb@techprt.co.uk > > === MESSAGE 11 === > Subject: Download manager on gateway? > From: Neil Sedger <n.sedger(a)bigfoot.com> > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:15:17 +0100 > > Hi all > > I've got a RH6.1 box working to masquerade (using ipchains) my dialup > connection to my network... everything seems to work fine on both it and the > Windoze boxes connected. The server has no keyboard/monitor and is usually up > 24h. > > I usually use a download manager - GetRight or GoZilla - on my Windoze box to > download files. Its nice because if my connection goes down or the server goes > down it will automatically retry and resume any files. It intercepts clicks > from Netscape/IE and adds the URL to its list. > > What I'd like to do is have a download manager on the linux box so that I can > take down the 'client' machines and have the linux box continue to download > files into the night... > > What software is around that will do this for me? > How could I make it easiest to get a URL from Netscape on a Windoze box to the > download manager on the linux box? > > Is there some kind of FTP/HTTP proxy server that will act as a download > manager for certain types of files (e.g. zip/gz/tar/mp3 etc) but pass through > files that don't match that filter (so I can browse the web/FTP sites > quickly)? > > Suggestions most appreciated > > Cheers > Neil > > === MESSAGE 12 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:21:54 +0100 > > > Is there some kind of FTP/HTTP proxy server that will act as a download > > manager for certain types of files (e.g. zip/gz/tar/mp3 etc) but pass through > > files that don't match that filter (so I can browse the web/FTP sites > > quickly)? > > You could write one in perl fairly easily. See the HTTP::Daemon module > in libwww. If you give me a few days, I can probably come up with something > for you, let me know. > > Paul > > === MESSAGE 13 === > Subject: Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > From: MJ Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:32:36 +0100 > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:15:17PM +0100, Neil Sedger wrote: > > Is there some kind of FTP/HTTP proxy server that will act as a download > > manager for certain types of files (e.g. zip/gz/tar/mp3 etc) but pass through > > files that don't match that filter (so I can browse the web/FTP sites > > quickly)? > > You could possibly use wwwoffle for this, but I don't know if it bends > into quite the shape you're wanting. The intr-download-* options > should do most of it (ie start the download, then cancel and let the > cache continue it). > http://www.gedanken.demon.co.uk/wwwoffle/ > > -- > | MJR "Everything is planned, from > -- crime to leisure time." 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Next ALUG meeting
by Justin Jonas 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Can we clear something up is it ALUG 6 or ALUG 28? If ALUG 28 where were the other 23 meetings? Justin Jonas [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG6 Debian?
by Green J M K 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

OK so the question has to be asked: Can someone bring along the latest Debian code? If 2.2 isn't out by the day, can someone master a cd of the latest unstable? The thought of installing "Slink and a half" then upgrading to unstable over a weekend doesn't settle well in my stomach. Needs to be CD - I'll not have my PC. James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Wed Apr 5 22:59:03 2000
by Terry Filby 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Hope to come to your next ALUG meeting if possible. I live in Beccles, Suffolk and are urgently in need of Linux help. If I bring my computer and leads, what else do I need to bring? Monitor, etc. (I only have a small car!). I'm a computer-mad OAP, but absolutely clueless with Linux. If anybody lives near to me I would very much appreciate help and I would, of course, pay for your trouble, I shouldn't imagine, for an expert, it would take long. Hope someone can help Thanks Terry T C Filby, 98 St George's Road, Beccles, Suffolk NR34 9YA Tel: 01502 715989 alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > 5 messages in this digest: > for testing only don't read it > Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Tue Apr 4 22:59:03 2000 > Re: [alug] for testing only don't read it > Instant reboot, I just won't have it! (was Re: [ALUG-DIGEST]) > Linux in a small space > > === MESSAGE 1 === > Subject: for testing only don't read it > From: Thai <dvt(a)dee.hcmut.edu.vn> > Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:02:38 +0700 > > === MESSAGE 2 === > Subject: Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Tue Apr 4 22:59:03 2000 > From: Terry Filby <m02we400(a)cwcom.net> > Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:44:52 +0100 > > I'll start by giving you a resume of my computer in case it has a bearing on > the trouble I am having with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2. > > Computer: Packard Bell Executive 200MHz (Upgrade - CenterHauls x86 Family 5 > Model 4 Stepping 1 200MHz MMX), S3 (I think) 1Mb Graphic Card, 48Mb Physical > Memory, American Megatrends Bios, version 100.05CP0R, dated 4/15/96, 4.3 Gb > Hard Drive partitioned by FDisk into 2 equal size partitions - C and D, FAT16. > > Have no trouble with installing Linux, just rebooting it. Tried several times > with PartitionMagic on Linux disk with no success and couldn't partition on D > as I wanted, so bought on-line System Commander 2000, it too has, so far, been > unsuccessful but there are signs (encouraging?). I was able to partition D, it > said Linux is bootable, which it still isn't and also said that I must be sure > to select Root Superblock choice - I would, but have no idea where this is > located. > > In both cases, with PartitionMagic and System Commander, when I try to reboot > Linux, it goes to the first OpenLinux page that I first saw when I installed > it, with Boot at the top and (sometimes) a second line, but the next thing > ALWAYS happens! It boots back to the opening Bios first-page. What am I doing > wrong or is some part of my equipment not compatible with Linux? If you need > other info, let me know, and I will do my best to supply it. > > Thanks, I hope you can help me solve this, all I wanted to do is to have a > look at Caldera Linux!. > > Terry > > alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > > > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > > > 13 messages in this digest: > > Re: [alug] Alug 6 > > Re: [alug] Alug 6 > > Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > > Re: [alug] Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > > What I can bring > > CheepLinux > > Next ALUG meeting > > Re: [alug] Next ALUG meeting > > Free magazines... > > Re: [alug] Free magazines... > > Download manager on gateway? > > Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > > Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > > > > === MESSAGE 1 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Alug 6 > > From: "John Woodard" <john(a)woodard.freeserve.co.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:07:47 +0100 > > > > I'll be there if anybody needs a lift from Diss onwards contact me off list. > > > > I need a hand getting SUSE 6.3 on a machine so perhaps an installathon!!! is > > called for. > > > > Cheers all, > > > > BJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Green J M K <jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk> > > To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 10:16 AM > > Subject: [alug] Alug 6 > > > > > I shall be there, assuming I can get transport from Norwich. > > > > > > Andrew/others? > > > > > > > > > James. > > > > > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > > > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > > > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > > > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > > > > > > > > > > === MESSAGE 2 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Alug 6 > > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:08:08 +0100 (BST) > > > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Dave Cook wrote: > > > > > When and where is this next meeting please and is it open to all or > > > only a limited number of people. > > > I'm new to Linux, but would like to attend and learn. > > > > See the other messages to the list and the website > > (www.anglian.lug.org.uk) which will be updated with details tomorrow. It's > > open to all, the more the merrier! > > > > Andrew. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > === MESSAGE 3 === > > Subject: Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > > From: Terry Filby <m02we400(a)cwcom.net> > > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:01:12 +0100 > > > > I've only just joined ALUG because I'm an absolute beginner in Linux and am having > > great difficulty, so it's disappointing to see ALUG is not exactly thriving. If > > individual help to me is possible somehow, please let me know. > > > > Thanks > > > > Terry > > > > alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > > > > > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > > > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > > > > > 1 messages in this digest: > > > Alug 6 > > > > > > === MESSAGE 1 === > > > Subject: Alug 6 > > > From: Adam Bower <adamb(a)thebowery.co.uk> > > > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:11:05 +0100 > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm going to cancel the venue for Alug now due to a lack of enthusiasm. > > > > > > If I'm wrong then let me know asap, It's just only two people have muttered > > > anything to the effect that they are coming, Let me know though if its just > > > everyone going on holiday/home in their uni easter break. I'm sorry if I sound > > > pessimistic but it looks as though the current part of the mail archive is > > > broken and everything looks grim. > > > > > > Adam > > > > === MESSAGE 4 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000 > > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:20:37 +0100 (BST) > > > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Terry Filby wrote: > > > > > I've only just joined ALUG because I'm an absolute beginner in Linux > > > and am having great difficulty, so it's disappointing to see ALUG is > > > not exactly thriving. If individual help to me is possible somehow, > > > please let me know. > > > > Hi Terry, > > > > You've just hit a low spot - I guess a fair number of our members are away > > dealing with university-related pressures. Why not come along to ALUG28 on > > 16th April, or if you have any questions feel free to post them to this > > mailing list and we'll do our best to help. > > > > Andrew. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > === MESSAGE 5 === > > Subject: What I can bring > > From: Justin Jonas <Justin.Jonas(a)Kingswood.co.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:24:44 +0100 > > > > At the moment I see no reason why I should not be able to attend > > > > I have Boxed definate Linux deluxe, Mandrake 7(PC Plus coverdisc - expect > > most of you will probably have this), Corel Linux(1 disc), Suse 6.2 Boxed, > > Suse 6.4(single disc- got from Suse stand at Windows2000 show! (it was the > > best bit of the show) - I cant make up my mind which distro to use :) > > > > I may also be able to dig up > > > > Redhat 6.0(1 CD) > > WinLinux 2000 final beta > > PhatLinux > > > > Let me know if any of this will be useful? > > > > Justin Jonas > > > > === MESSAGE 6 === > > Subject: CheepLinux > > From: Justin Jonas <Justin.Jonas(a)Kingswood.co.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:27:47 +0100 > > > > http://www.cheeplinux.com/ > > > > might be useful > > > > get Linux for #2.99 > > > > Justin Jonas > > > > === MESSAGE 7 === > > Subject: Next ALUG meeting > > From: Justin Jonas <Justin.Jonas(a)Kingswood.co.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:32:15 +0100 > > > > Can we clear something up is it ALUG 6 or ALUG 28? > > > > If ALUG 28 where were the other 23 meetings? > > > > Justin Jonas > > > > === MESSAGE 8 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Next ALUG meeting > > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:39:23 +0100 (BST) > > > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Justin Jonas wrote: > > > > > Can we clear something up is it ALUG 6 or ALUG 28? > > > > Yes! > > > > > If ALUG 28 where were the other 23 meetings? > > > > IIRC, Adam kindly volunteered to host one of the later ALUGs in North > > Norfolk - he said around ALUG28 or so. Since we didn't have any other > > venues that we hadn't already visited many times, we decided to hold > > ALUG28 after ALUG5. > > > > I suspect ALUG6 will be after ALUG28. Almost as confusing as Sun's OS > > numbers... > > > > Andrew. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > === MESSAGE 9 === > > Subject: Free magazines... > > From: Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:30:52 +0100 (BST) > > > > Hi all, > > > > As of the June issue a magazine called D Cafe will be expanding from Java > > to include linux. They have free subscriptions to offer to around 10,000 > > people. > > > > If you would be interested in receiving the magazine, email me with your > > postal address and I will collate and forward the details to D Cafe. > > > > Andrew. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > === MESSAGE 10 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Free magazines... > > From: "Ian Thompson-Bell" <itb(a)techprt.co.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:23:58 +0100 > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > As of the June issue a magazine called D Cafe will be expanding from Java > > > to include linux. They have free subscriptions to offer to around 10,000 > > > people. > > > > > > If you would be interested in receiving the magazine, email me with your > > > postal address and I will collate and forward the details to D Cafe. > > > > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > > Put me down please, > > > > Ian > > > > Ian Thompson-Bell > > > > The Technology Partnership plc > > Melbourn Science Park > > Melbourn > > Herts > > SG8 6EE > > United Kingdom > > > > Tel: +44 1763 262626 > > Fax: +44 1763 261582 > > > > mailto:itb@techprt.co.uk > > > > === MESSAGE 11 === > > Subject: Download manager on gateway? > > From: Neil Sedger <n.sedger(a)bigfoot.com> > > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:15:17 +0100 > > > > Hi all > > > > I've got a RH6.1 box working to masquerade (using ipchains) my dialup > > connection to my network... everything seems to work fine on both it and the > > Windoze boxes connected. The server has no keyboard/monitor and is usually up > > 24h. > > > > I usually use a download manager - GetRight or GoZilla - on my Windoze box to > > download files. Its nice because if my connection goes down or the server goes > > down it will automatically retry and resume any files. It intercepts clicks > > from Netscape/IE and adds the URL to its list. > > > > What I'd like to do is have a download manager on the linux box so that I can > > take down the 'client' machines and have the linux box continue to download > > files into the night... > > > > What software is around that will do this for me? > > How could I make it easiest to get a URL from Netscape on a Windoze box to the > > download manager on the linux box? > > > > Is there some kind of FTP/HTTP proxy server that will act as a download > > manager for certain types of files (e.g. zip/gz/tar/mp3 etc) but pass through > > files that don't match that filter (so I can browse the web/FTP sites > > quickly)? > > > > Suggestions most appreciated > > > > Cheers > > Neil > > > > === MESSAGE 12 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > > From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:21:54 +0100 > > > > > Is there some kind of FTP/HTTP proxy server that will act as a download > > > manager for certain types of files (e.g. zip/gz/tar/mp3 etc) but pass through > > > files that don't match that filter (so I can browse the web/FTP sites > > > quickly)? > > > > You could write one in perl fairly easily. See the HTTP::Daemon module > > in libwww. If you give me a few days, I can probably come up with something > > for you, let me know. > > > > Paul > > > > === MESSAGE 13 === > > Subject: Re: [alug] Download manager on gateway? > > From: MJ Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> > > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:32:36 +0100 > > > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:15:17PM +0100, Neil Sedger wrote: > > > Is there some kind of FTP/HTTP proxy server that will act as a download > > > manager for certain types of files (e.g. zip/gz/tar/mp3 etc) but pass through > > > files that don't match that filter (so I can browse the web/FTP sites > > > quickly)? > > > > You could possibly use wwwoffle for this, but I don't know if it bends > > into quite the shape you're wanting. The intr-download-* options > > should do most of it (ie start the download, then cancel and let the > > cache continue it). > > http://www.gedanken.demon.co.uk/wwwoffle/ > > > > -- > > | MJR "Everything is planned, from > > -- crime to leisure time." > > === MESSAGE 3 === > Subject: Re: [alug] for testing only don't read it > From: MJ Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:19:08 +0100 > > An excellent opportunity to tell people that an upgrade to the > listserver is imminent and stuff like this message should be a thing of > the past soon. Of course, lots else may break ;-) > > Oh, and next person to send a "test" or an "unsubscribe" gets a free > email from postmaster(a)stu.uea.ac.uk to their connection provider, as > per standard terms ;-) Behave, people... > > -- > | MJR "Everything is planned, from > -- crime to leisure time." > > === MESSAGE 4 === > Subject: Instant reboot, I just won't have it! (was Re: [ALUG-DIGEST]) > From: MJ Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:34:58 +0100 > > On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:44:52PM +0100, Terry Filby wrote: > > I'll start by giving you a resume of my computer in case it has a > > bearing on the trouble I am having with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2. > > Can you start by trimming the message you're replying to next time, > please? It's a digest and I've seen all those messages twice... > > > Computer: Packard Bell Executive 200MHz (Upgrade - CenterHauls x86 > > Family 5 Model 4 Stepping 1 200MHz MMX), S3 (I think) 1Mb Graphic > > Card, 48Mb Physical Memory, American Megatrends Bios, version > > 100.05CP0R, dated 4/15/96, 4.3 Gb Hard Drive partitioned by FDisk > > into 2 equal size partitions - C and D, FAT16. > > Nothing there makes me instantly suspicious except the CPU being an > upgrade... is it a straight "pull out one chip, insert another" type? > If you have any doubts, check it with the Hardware HOWTO from > http://www.linuxdoc.org/ (local mirror http://webdocs.essex.ac.uk/LDP/) > > > Have no trouble with installing Linux, just rebooting it. Tried > > several times with PartitionMagic on Linux disk with no success and > > couldn't partition on D as I wanted, so bought on-line System > > Commander 2000, it too has, so far, been unsuccessful but there are > > signs (encouraging?). I was able to partition D, it said Linux is > > bootable, which it still isn't and also said that I must be sure to > > select Root Superblock choice - I would, but have no idea where this > > is located. > > Dual boots are always trickier. However, I have no recent experience > with them, only with cantankerous single-boots. There's something > about having two bootable partitions that worries me, and I'm assuming > that the Caldera installer didn't offer to let you put the bootloader > whereever you wanted? > > -- > | MJR "Everything is planned, from > -- crime to leisure time." > > === MESSAGE 5 === > Subject: Linux in a small space > From: Aquarius <aquarius(a)kryogenix.albatross.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:08:39 +0100 > > I'd like to build a Linux install on a machine I have, an old IBM > PS/2-70, which has 8MB of memory, 160MB of HD space, and is a 386. What > I'd like to have on this box is Debian Linux (slink, probably, until > frozen happens), X, AbiWord, Gnumeric, some kind of accounts package > (anything that can handle home and simple business accounts), dosemu, > a DOS program (not massive in size) for which I do not believe there is a > freely available Linux equivalent, and a few documents, converted from > their current WordPerfect for DOS (!) format to AbiWord. > > Am I vastly over-reaching the capabilities of the machine? Problems I > foresee: > > o X in 8MB, ouch. Is this vastly unlikely? Is there a smaller > version of X than XFree86? I seem to recall something called Micro-X > existing, but I can't find any trace of it any more, so perhaps it was my > deluded imagination. > o Shortage of HD space in general -- will I get all that lot into > 160MB less swap? I think so -- the box doesn't need a great deal of space > free once it's been built, just enough to hold documents created in the > apps specified. > o It's a PS/2, which means it isn't upgradeable for any small > amount of money, so no suggestions about doing something like putting > more RAM in it :) > o It only has a floppy drive -- no CDROM, it won't take an internal > modem because the PS/2s had weirdness connectors, and I'm not buying an > external modem just for this project. I can presumably get hold of a null > modem cable and install from *this* slink box using SLIP or PPP or > something and doing a network install, assuming I build a suitable Debian > boot diskette, which is the best plan so far. > > Suggestions? Comments? Laughter? :-) > > Aq. > > PS. While I think about it, yes, I shall almost certainly come to > ALUG{28,6} in Aylsham, since I now have a daughter (born Monday evening, > 11.12pm), and therefore don't need to necessarily worry about having to > be here every minute of every day, so I may try and put this plan into > action that day :) > > -- > "The grand plan that is Aquarius proceeds apace" > -- Ronin, Frank Miller [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG6 Debian?
by Dave J Armour 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

pleae stop sending me this messages because you are sending me insane with your constant bombardment of e-mails from the ALUG group!!!! --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux@work: London
by Andrew Savory 06 Apr '00

06 Apr '00

Hi all, This may be of interest to those of you deploying linux in business environments. The line-up of events at the London conference is impressive, to say the least. Andrew. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:33:02 +0200 From: Roberto Zicari <zicari(a)ltt.de> To: info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk Subject: Linux@work: London Linux@work Europe: call for participation Andrew, LogOn is inviting you to attend Linux@work, a series of one-day conference and exhibition on Linux for business in Europe in May. The conferences and exhibits are at no cost- open to all. The days have been designed to help IT professionals evaluate and/or implement Linux in their business. The Schedule: May 8, 2000 --Copenhagen, May 9, 2000 --Oslo, May 10, 2000 --Stockholm, May 11, 2000 --Helsinki May 12, 2000 --Brussels May 15, 2000 --Amsterdam, May 16, 2000 --Paris , May 17, 2000 --London May 18, 2000 --Frankfurt May 19, 2000 --Zurich The full conference program is available at: http://www.ltt.de/linux.html If you wish to attend, simply fill in the registration form you`ll find on the Web. We`ll send you your free ticket. Linux@work is supported by the Free Software Foundation. Please distribute this call for participation as you see proper. Roberto Zicari LogOn ## [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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for testing only don't read it
by Thai 05 Apr '00

05 Apr '00

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Free magazines...
by Andrew Savory 04 Apr '00

04 Apr '00

Hi all, As of the June issue a magazine called D Cafe will be expanding from Java to include linux. They have free subscriptions to offer to around 10,000 people. If you would be interested in receiving the magazine, email me with your postal address and I will collate and forward the details to D Cafe. Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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CheepLinux
by Justin Jonas 04 Apr '00

04 Apr '00

http://www.cheeplinux.com/ might be useful get Linux for #2.99 Justin Jonas [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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What I can bring
by Justin Jonas 04 Apr '00

04 Apr '00

At the moment I see no reason why I should not be able to attend I have Boxed definate Linux deluxe, Mandrake 7(PC Plus coverdisc - expect most of you will probably have this), Corel Linux(1 disc), Suse 6.2 Boxed, Suse 6.4(single disc- got from Suse stand at Windows2000 show! (it was the best bit of the show) - I cant make up my mind which distro to use :) I may also be able to dig up Redhat 6.0(1 CD) WinLinux 2000 final beta PhatLinux Let me know if any of this will be useful? Justin Jonas [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Apr 2 22:59:02 2000
by Terry Filby 04 Apr '00

04 Apr '00

I've only just joined ALUG because I'm an absolute beginner in Linux and am having great difficulty, so it's disappointing to see ALUG is not exactly thriving. If individual help to me is possible somehow, please let me know. Thanks Terry alug-digest(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily > those of UEA or UUEAS. > > 1 messages in this digest: > Alug 6 > > === MESSAGE 1 === > Subject: Alug 6 > From: Adam Bower <adamb(a)thebowery.co.uk> > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:11:05 +0100 > > Hi all, > > I'm going to cancel the venue for Alug now due to a lack of enthusiasm. > > If I'm wrong then let me know asap, It's just only two people have muttered > anything to the effect that they are coming, Let me know though if its just > everyone going on holiday/home in their uni easter break. I'm sorry if I sound > pessimistic but it looks as though the current part of the mail archive is > broken and everything looks grim. > > Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Trouble with gimp
by Doug Tulloch 17 Mar '00

17 Mar '00

Hi from another newbie! Does anyone know anything about gimp? I can't get it to do even the simplest transformations. Trying to rotate a selection, for example, produces no result other than a lot of hard disk activity which appears quite rapidly to fill up the partition in use, whether home or root; the only way out that I have found is to log off and start again. Is this a known problem? I'm using Linux-Mandrake 6.1, the Macmillan distribution, on a Dell which has an Nvidia TNT2 graphics card. -- Doug Tulloch [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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NT boot.ini
by Anthony_Sale＠proconassoc.co.uk 17 Mar '00

17 Mar '00

Stu I use the NT boot loader on my laptop. To boot Lilo from the NT boot loader you ned to do the following enter dd if=/dev/hd?? of=/ntdrive/linux.cnt bs=512 count=1 (where /dev/hd?? is the partition you installed lilo to and /ntdrive points to the nt C: drive) Edit your boot.ini file to look like the following (this configuration has linux as the default startup) [boot loader] timeout=30 default=c:\linux.cnt [operating systems] c:\linux.cnt="Linux" multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00" multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00 [VGA mode]" /basevideo /sos The boot/ini file has the system and readonly attributes so you will need to enter attrib -s -r c:\boot.ini before you edit the file. After wards enter attrib +s +r boot.ini to reset the file attributes. Hope this helps Regards Tony Sale "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> on 03/16/2000 10:29:58 PM Please respond to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Tony Sale/Technical Consultants/Procon) Subject: [alug] NT boot.ini Hi what would I put in nt boot.ini in order to get linux loaded, I put lilo in the partition, as opposed to MBR, as Id rather use the NT boot loader... ?? Thanks Stu.. I did search the redhat site but couldent find the answer, mind you we were pretty busy at good old freeserve today which distracted me from the important things Id have preffered to be doing.. :) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ********************************************************************** The information contained in this electronic mail message is confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, copying, dissemination or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. **********************************************************************

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Linux Cobalt Raqs - bloomin' marvellous ;)
by Martyn Drake 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

I just want to say how darned nice these machines are. I've been playing with a demo machine we've got in the office to decide whether it's worth using these as part of a co-located/reseller solution. I want one for myself :) It's running Linux 2.2.12C3 with an 18Gb hard drive, along with 512Mb of memory. Suprisingly, it's only using IDE for it's hard drive interface. Everything is administered via the web interface, but you also have telnet access along with root privaledges (although they say you could invalidate your warranty by modifying system files). It looks like it's running a customised version of RedHat. It will also allow installation via the web of .pkg files. The web server supports sanboxed CGI, Frontpage extensions, and plenty of other goodies. Web stats and quota management are all handled via it's web interface which customers can access via their control panel. The biggest surprise was it supports the Arkeia backup client which we use with a massive tape library system. The user can backup their own data, or the ISP/host can do it for them. The unit itself it's tiny - we could get loads of these into our racks in Telehouse. Despite the IDE hard drive interface, I'd have to say this is a pretty darn excellent package for those that want to do things on the cheap and not bother about too much of the setting-up side and maintenance. 9/10 Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake | WEB http://www.ision.net.uk Systems Administrator | PHONE +44 (0)20 8293 7000 Ision Internet plc | FAX +44 (0)20 8293 6000 -- Martyn Drake | WEB http://www.ision.net.uk Systems Administrator | PHONE +44 (0)20 8293 7000 Ision Internet plc | FAX +44 (0)20 8293 6000 [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Cobalt Raqs .. bloody marvellous ;)
by Martyn Drake 14 Mar '00

14 Mar '00

I just want to say how darned nice these machines are. I've been playing with a demo machine we've got in the office to decide whether it's worth using these as part of a co-located/reseller solution. I want one for myself :) It's running Linux 2.2.12C3 with an 18Gb hard drive, along with 512Mb of memory. Suprisingly, it's only using IDE for it's hard drive interface. Everything is administered via the web interface, but you also have telnet access along with root privaledges (although they say you could invalidate your warranty by modifying system files). It looks like it's running a customised version of RedHat. It will also allow installation via the web of .pkg files. The web server supports sanboxed CGI, Frontpage extensions, and plenty of other goodies. Web stats and quota management are all handled via it's web interface which customers can access via their control panel. The biggest surprise was it supports the Arkeia backup client which we use with a massive tape library system. The user can backup their own data, or the ISP/host can do it for them. The unit itself it's tiny - we could get loads of these into our racks in Telehouse. Despite the IDE hard drive interface, I'd have to say this is a pretty darn excellent package for those that want to do things on the cheap and not bother about too much of the setting-up side and maintenance. 9/10 Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake | WEB http://www.ision.net.uk Systems Administrator | PHONE +44 (0)20 8293 7000 Ision Internet plc | FAX +44 (0)20 8293 6000 [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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High loads
by Dan Jones 10 Mar '00

10 Mar '00

Thought you guys might enjoy seeing the highest load ever for a single website on a dedicated server (well that I've seen anyway) 11:37am up 28 days, 1:17, 3 users, load average: 50.17, 35.08, 24.95 At lunchtimes, the average is higher. This site gets on average 20 hits/sec for reference, and a a intesnive CGI/MySQL beast. Heardware is dual PIII-550, with RAID 5 SCSI and is a HP Netserver costing approx 7,500 quid. It also has around 640Mb of RAM, and a triple redundant PSU. We've already said it needs a new box. And for client confidality reasons, I'm not permitted to say which site it is, sorry! Dan Jones Network Operations UK Solutions, a part of CAD Internet [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Experiences of Helix?
by Green J M K 09 Mar '00

09 Mar '00

OK so we were bombarded with news releases from HelixCode announcing their distribution of GNOME yesterday. It looks real nice, I just wondered if anyone had any experiences good or bad with it (the Helix download processes and the environment itself)? Also, anyone know if an gnome app written under this release/1.4 release will still work under October GNOME? James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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New Web Host
by Laurie Brown 09 Mar '00

09 Mar '00

Folks, After many months of fruitless searching in the UK for a sensible (either) managed server or co-location deal for a box running Linux, we've given up, bitten the bullet and gone for a 2meg pipe of our own. We intend to offer domain hosting, web hosting using apache, email, php, MySQL, Perl, CGI etc. running on a SuSE 6.3 box for a basic price of a tenner-a-month. We want to use SuSE because a) we're familiar with it, and b) we want to do a trading partnership deal with SuSE. There are some complications, however! The principle one is lack of time on my part, and the fact that I'm out of the country. Another is that although we have a pretty good idea of what we need, and how to do it, some knowledgeable help would be appreciated. For instance, we will be going SCSI and RAID5 areas in which I have no experience on Linux. Lastly, this is a shoe-string start-up, and we can't afford to pay mega-bucks for an "expert". So, bottom-line: if an ALUG member near to Ipswich and willing to exchange some help and experience in exchange for beer and some free domain hosting or whatever is able to help, please shout. The kit will be here late next week, and it's a ground-up build. I have spare PCs to simulate dial-in, the DMZ and a network behind it for NAT and so on. I only have a short window to do this, as the pipe is scheduled to arrive at the main office in mid-April. Oh yeah, if anyone replies, please take this out of the list, to cut down the noise thereon. Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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MS Word with Linux
by Green J M K 08 Mar '00

08 Mar '00

Hi there, OK so I need to produce a lengthy report with screenshots and diagrams. I need to write it on Linux and produce the final product in Word for printing on an NT network. I'm wondering here how stable Word97 is running with WINE? StarOffice cannot get full compatibility even with straightforward text/styles I've found, so that's not a reliable option. Options anyone? James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG28?
by MJ Ray 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible? MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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What's your record for load average on a Linux box?
by Martyn Drake 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

Mine is 60.91 after the Frontpage extensions running on a Debian box went haywire. We have now mounted the dump of 'top' on our wall as a record of the momentous occasion. Make sure you monitor, shtml.exe on any machine running FP to ensure it doesn't go tits up. Ruddy Microsoft crud :( Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Mail Archive Update
by MJ Ray 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

Hypermail.pl is now handling most of the mail archives. I'll not bother converting the first few unless someone can think of a really good reason. I'll now be adding to them monthly, I think. They remain at http://www.mth.uea.ac.uk/~h089/alug/list/ while the main site is at http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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PC Answers Mandrake CD Cockup
by Justin Jonas 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

Has anybody heard anymore about this? They sent me a letter shortly after Christmas saying they were going to replace the cd but since then nothing Justin Jonas

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[ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Mar 5 23:59:02 2000
by alug-digest＠stu.uea.ac.uk 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily those of UEA or UUEAS. 3 messages in this digest: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... [alug] Dial up dilema... === MESSAGE 1 === Subject: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:17:08 +0000 (GMT) On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Dermot Musgrove wrote: > Stu wrote: > > > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > > Cheers Stu > > > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > > same error is coming up:- > > > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > AFAIR this happens because you have a line in /etc/ppp/options with 'lock' > > kppp does its own locking, it used to be OK to have an empty options file. chmod uog+rwx /dev/modem does the trick here. -- James Green Site Manager james(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC === MESSAGE 2 === Subject: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: Darrell Scott <scottie(a)linux.ca> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:46:55 -0400 On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, Stu wrote: > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > > The debug file reports the folowing:- > > "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself > but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let > it use an IP address." Sounds like an authentication problem to me... maybe you're using the wrong userid/password combination? Capitalization? Maybe you're using PAP instead of CHAP, or vice-versa. It might be a good idea to try connecting to another account you have the username and password for - both on the same ISP and another ISP, if possible. That way you can isolate the problem. I've had trouble connecting to NT servers in the past; I had to recompile pppd for MS-CHAP authentication (all the instructions are with the source code). I don't think this is the error message that I got though. > I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I This would remain consistent with an authentication problem. If you're manually editing stuff, edit /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and/or /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. Check out ISP-Hookup-HOWTO and PPP-HOWTO for more info. Good Luck! Darrell (A former East-Anglian living in Canada!) -- scottie(a)linux.ca === MESSAGE 3 === Subject: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: bsamuels(a)datamansys.co.uk Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:20:37 GMT ** Reply to note from "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:44:20 -0000 Stu > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > Cheers Stu > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > > The debug file reports the folowing:- > > "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself > but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let > it use an IP address." I believe that the remote host should not be required to authenticate itself! from ppp options: # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network # packets to be sent or received. auth If you have the above in your ppp options file try kppp after changing the 'auth' line to 'noauth'. > I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I > also used the terminal button in the modem device setup and called the > speaking clock so I know the modem works. > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] Best wishes Barry Samuels

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Dial up dilema...
by bsamuels＠datamansys.co.uk 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

** Reply to note from "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:44:20 -0000 Stu > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > Cheers Stu > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > > The debug file reports the folowing:- > > "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself > but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let > it use an IP address." I believe that the remote host should not be required to authenticate itself! from ppp options: # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network # packets to be sent or received. auth If you have the above in your ppp options file try kppp after changing the 'auth' line to 'noauth'. > I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I > also used the terminal button in the modem device setup and called the > speaking clock so I know the modem works. > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] Best wishes Barry Samuels [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[ALUG-DIGEST] Sat Mar 4 23:59:03 2000
by alug-digest＠stu.uea.ac.uk 04 Mar '00

04 Mar '00

This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily those of UEA or UUEAS. 3 messages in this digest: Dial up dilema... Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... Re: [alug] PHP complile probs === MESSAGE 1 === Subject: Dial up dilema... From: "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:44:20 -0000 Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? Cheers Stu hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the same error is coming up:- "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" The debug file reports the folowing:- "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let it use an IP address." I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I also used the terminal button in the modem device setup and called the speaking clock so I know the modem works. === MESSAGE 2 === Subject: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: Dermot Musgrove <dermot(a)glade.perl.connectfree.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:52:30 +0000 Stu wrote: > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > Cheers Stu > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" AFAIR this happens because you have a line in /etc/ppp/options with 'lock' kppp does its own locking, it used to be OK to have an empty options file. Regards, Dermot === MESSAGE 3 === Subject: Re: [alug] PHP complile probs From: "Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD" <ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:28:44 +0000 At 10:28 03/03/00 +0000, you wrote: > >I've just seen this: >http://www.PenguinMagazine.com/Magazine/This_Issue/0010 >which takes you through the Apache/PHP/MySQL install process. Good timing >that :-) > >James. > Thank-you, using the above it now works and I can now start to learn php/mysql. I'm still playing around with compiling php from source and found the argument to compile it as an apache module to be (on my Redhat 6.0 machine): ./configure --with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs ... And i've just now got the php source code to compile correctly (with mysql, dbase, etc) database support and it's working with Apache. Yippee! Thanks again for your help. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Email: ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com Web: http://www.ydu09.dial.pipex.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness"

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OT: BT, ADSL, Cable Modems
by Green J M K 03 Mar '00

03 Mar '00

Refs: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000303-000009.html http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2000/8/ns-13811.html Number one BT has decided yet again to delay ADSL citing lack of demand causing insufficient testing. That's tech-speak for "we're gonna lose revenue here". Number two both Telewest and NTL are rolling our Cable modems over the next few months. Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to the differences between cable and adsl (other than the tv and telephony services cable also provides)? I might add that I signed up to BTInternet Wednesday upon their announcement of the free evening calls. Other than their dialup boxes going dead early Wed evening, I've not seen any problems yet. Sure, it's slower than Demon, but still acceptable (4k/sec web, 4-7/8k/sec news). I've not set mail up yet. I have had one or two disconnections, but nothing appalling. If only BT would allow full unmetered access *sigh*. s/BT: It's Good to Talk/BT: Taking the Piss/g James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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lightwave
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 02 Mar '00

02 Mar '00

Don't drink more than 3 litres in one evening and break your laptop with you PhD on it!! (Sorry, Mike!!!) A friend of mine runs Office '97 under the latest stable version - it seems to be quite solid. Most apps I used to occasionally use under Wine, I now use native versions... sorry! Andi p.s. Sorry about the pseudo-indent-reply Notes is pretty useless!! ------------------------------------- does anybody have any advice on wine ? is it stable enough for 24/7 use ? I am considering using a linux box to render in lightwave under wine - does wine affect the fpu performace ? J ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * ********************************************************************* [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Wrox Press - Linux Books
by Rob Miller 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Hi Does ALUG have a LUG library? Would you like to start one?:-) Wrox Press is a UK publisher (based in Birmingham)- We publish books on Linux and related technologies for professional programmers. I can send out free review copies of our books and it seems only right to me that some of these should got to the UK LUGs :-) I'd like to send you a copy of, "Beginning Linux Programming 2nd Edition" (with a foreword by Alan Cox)ISBN: 1861002971. If someone at ALUG could review the book and put a review up on your web site then that would be fair exchange :-) If you like the sound of my plan then send me your postal address and I'll send you a copy of the book. Cheers Rob Rob Miller Wrox Press Ltd GNU/Linux Marketing & Communications www.wrox.com Bang!Linux Conference and Expo - Bangalore 25-27 Feb 2000 www.linux-conferences.com [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Machine Lockups
by jg＠cyberstorm.demon.co.uk 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Hi guys, I'm feeling a little out of my depth here on this one. This box was built two Autumns ago (1998) and has only had a monitor change since. Using RH6.0. Tonight, on two seperate occassions, between 30 seconds and one minute into my dialup Internet connection, my machine has totally locked up. The only commonality has been the dialup and corresponding disk activity (sendmail and fetchnews kicking in). I have had an in-between dialup connection that stayed up fine. The screen freezes. No mouse, no keyboard. The four consoles do not respond. No beeps occur on keyboard buffer overflow as you'd normally expect. The modem stays on-line, but Rx/Tx lights go dead. The hard disk stops rattling completely (I can normally hear it all the time). I have 64MB RAM, 128MB swap. gkrellm shows swap to be at or less than 1/4 used, RAM between half and 3/4 used. I run GNOME 1.0.53 and E 0.16 and on both occassions had two Eterms up. Absolutely nothing out of the normal, bar having 'daytime' uncommented in /etc/services (I was trying out a networking code sample from a book). I have now commented it back out. I was not accessing audio/cdrom devices, nor floppy (LS-120). I am using kernel 2.2.12, and have been for smoe time. The only thing that comes to mind is possibly swapfile corruption, but I don't even know if it's possible with Linux/ext2 or whatever. Unless the problem is an apparently random hardware fault. I must admit since using GNOME again this past few days memory has been a little lacking. Ideas? [jg@cyberstorm jg]$ df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdb1 2915904 2033150 731959 74% / /dev/hda6 2028098 770226 1153050 40% /home /dev/hda5 2096160 1995712 100448 95% /mnt/data /dev/hda1 2096160 1902592 193568 91% /mnt/windows [jg@cyberstorm jg]$ free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 63320 61892 1428 52792 1960 31316 -/+ buffers/cache: 28616 34704 Swap: 128988 20 128968 [jg@cyberstorm jg]$ quota Disk quotas for user jg (uid 500): none -- James Green jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Site Manager jg(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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New users distribution
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 25 Feb '00

25 Feb '00

SuSE is a solid distro. SuSE never seems to be mentioned in some circles, but its pretty damn good and worth at look at. It seems to be on par with Slackware in that lots of people use it for their server operating systems. Oh well... my two pence worth!! Andi -------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:46:23PM +0000, Aquarius wrote: > Which should I recommend? One that comes with a good book on it. (or equivalent online docs) Mandrake is based on RH, so uses RH's packaging system. Storm and Corel are based on Debian, but Storm seems to leave you abruptly post-install in my opinion and Corel has that root exploit. Stampede is too early in its life. Slackware is OK, but you really need a book. SuSE I've never given a fair trial. ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * ********************************************************************* [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SuSE wms
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 25 Feb '00

25 Feb '00

Hey, I remember those Sun 3-60 machines. Classic!! Then we upgrade them to be Xterm's when the Sparc ELC's arrived!!! Eee, by heck! Those were the days! A> On 21-Feb-00 Green J M K wrote: > Hey all, > > Okay, I am stuck in this uni machine. It uses gdm to login, and presents > only KDE as the possible environment. But hark! /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker is > present! I tried killall -9 kwm && wmaker (as per a suggestion) but it > simply logged me out. > > Anyone got any bright ideas? You don't know a good think when you see it..... When I was an UG at essex we were using some crap in house 68000 box with no virtual memory or dma and a crap prot of SYS-V I think.... Then we moved to a network of Sun 3-60s :-) Peter. ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * ********************************************************************* [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Trouble with gimp
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 Feb '00

24 Feb '00

Is this your home directories and CVS repository? I can recommend StorageTec tape silos!! We back up 15PetaBytes of data on these!!! :-) Seriously, DAT's are fine. At home I back up (using BRU I must admit) across multiple DAT's. If you get a DAT drive with an Autochange it'll do this automagically for you during the night. Any half decent backup software will support the autochanger. Some of my FTP Server's here at work I backup to DLT's. These are fine for smallish file servers - well 40GB on one tape. Have fun... Andi eee bye eck, when I wer't lad ;)... I guess I better get this back on a linux related theme ;).. does anybody have any suggestions for a reasonable backup devices other than dat under linux ?? we need to back up about 15 gig, dosen't have to be than fast, (well overnight will do!).. it seems that dat's are now becomming a little small ;).. please, no suggestions of 15 jazz drives ;).. Sz ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * ********************************************************************* [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Mandrake 7
by John Woodard 24 Feb '00

24 Feb '00

All you RedHatters out there check out Mandrake 7.0 very slick! Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SuSE wms
by Green J M K 22 Feb '00

22 Feb '00

Hey all, Okay, I am stuck in this uni machine. It uses gdm to login, and presents only KDE as the possible environment. But hark! /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker is present! I tried killall -9 kwm && wmaker (as per a suggestion) but it simply logged me out. Anyone got any bright ideas? (I have a related question for those who answer correctly.) James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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