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Would someone burn a distro for me?
by James Freer 24 May '14

24 May '14

My PC I think has a faulty DVD drive/corrupted installation as it doesn't seem to burn. My spare machine with a CDROM doesn't seem to work now and for some odd reason neither boot on the USB (even with PLoP). Not been a good day! If someone is prepared to help me out maybe you can reply off list - I live North of Bury. The distro is Fedora xfce and Salix (CDs as opposed to DVD). thanks james

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Fwd: Re: Overheard in the bar
by RustyHinge 24 May '14

24 May '14

Apropos Chalk Hill? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Overheard in the bar Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 12:53:41 +0100 From: Znep <E-0C001302-5256-E(a)cleopatra.co.uk> Organization: None, really.... Newsgroups: uk.rec.sheds etc. In uk.rec.sheds, (Murff) wrote in <ll917d$q4k$20(a)dont-email.me>:: >On Sun, 18 May 2014 01:58:53 +0100, Mike Fleming wrote: > >> I've had some that's been good and >> some that hasn't coped so well. > >Just finishing some Naylor's Old Ale, from Kildwick. About 1 mile from >here, bought by the case from the brewers. At that distance, whether beer >travels or not is rather less of an issue. Um. I once took a mate of mine to the Lass o'Gowrie, and had a pint of their finest- which I rather liked. He didn't. "Where's this from?" he asked. "They make it out the back, there." "Huh. Doesn't travel well, does it?" -- Marc

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I haven't tried *really* hard, but...
by Anthony Anson 19 May '14

19 May '14

Thunderguts is set to read Usenet offline. Posts for only one group are duly downloaded, but try to access them? Every time I try to open one, the cursor on the newsgroups column goes to the next one, where there are, of course, only headers. Is this a feature? Or am I doing something silly? -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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Re: [ALUG] Is there any point in using an 'unusual' private IP address range for security?
by Phil Ashby 18 May '14

18 May '14

On 18/05/14 12:00 Chris Green <cl(a)isbd.net> wrote: > ... > What I'm thinking of doing to improve my security (or at least reduce > the likelihood of a break-in doing much damage) is to have a dedicated > 'dmz' server on the LAN/WAN between the Speedtouch router and the > 2820n's WAN port. I can then open up the appropriate ports on *that* > system to provide access from the outside world but if someone breaks > in they won't be able to see anything much except that machine and a > couple of routers. This would be a "good thing" (tm), provided there are appropriate firewall settings on the 2820 that prevent connections from the DMZ back into the house network (ie: treat the DMZ as the internet from the house network point of view). > My question is about what private IP address ranges to use, currently > they're as follows:- > > 2820n - 192.168.1.1 > This has *everything* hanging on it, backup NAS, family > computers, media boxes, etc. > > Speedtouch - 192.168.13.254 > 2820n WAN - 192.168.13.65 (assigned by Speedtouch DHCP) > New dmz computer would be added to this LAN > > > Would it be worth changing things around so that the Speedtouch LAN is > 192.168.1.x (the almost universal default for home LANs) and the 2820n > one is 192.168.13.0, or even 10.0.0.0 or 172.16.0.0 so that an > intruder is less likely to guess that there's another LAN to look for? > I know this is 'security by obscurity' to some extent but it's no > effort really except some minor configuration changes to some static > addresses and DHCP servers so if it offers any advantage it's probably > worth doing. Prior knowledge of internal network addressing may help someone prepare a drive-by attack on your 2820 via your browser, otherwise there won't be much extra protection once they are on the DMZ host and can see all the network traffic passing by. Phil

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Is there any point in using an 'unusual' private IP address range for security?
by Chris Green 18 May '14

18 May '14

I am in the process of reconfiguring my home LAN. Currently my desktop computer (which is also an 'always on' server machine) is visible to the outside world on several ports: ssh, smtp, http and maybe a couple of others (I'd have to check the router configuration to be sure). I have two ADSL connections, both with static IP and I use a Draytek Vigor 2820n router for load balancing. The 2820n handles one ADSL connection and there's an old Speedtouch ADSL modem/router on the other phone line whose LAN side connects to the 2820n's ethernet WAN input. What I'm thinking of doing to improve my security (or at least reduce the likelihood of a break-in doing much damage) is to have a dedicated 'dmz' server on the LAN/WAN between the Speedtouch router and the 2820n's WAN port. I can then open up the appropriate ports on *that* system to provide access from the outside world but if someone breaks in they won't be able to see anything much except that machine and a couple of routers. My question is about what private IP address ranges to use, currently they're as follows:- 2820n - 192.168.1.1 This has *everything* hanging on it, backup NAS, family computers, media boxes, etc. Speedtouch - 192.168.13.254 2820n WAN - 192.168.13.65 (assigned by Speedtouch DHCP) New dmz computer would be added to this LAN Would it be worth changing things around so that the Speedtouch LAN is 192.168.1.x (the almost universal default for home LANs) and the 2820n one is 192.168.13.0, or even 10.0.0.0 or 172.16.0.0 so that an intruder is less likely to guess that there's another LAN to look for? I know this is 'security by obscurity' to some extent but it's no effort really except some minor configuration changes to some static addresses and DHCP servers so if it offers any advantage it's probably worth doing. -- Chris Green

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Is there a better 'locate' anywhere?
by Chris Green 16 May '14

16 May '14

Does anyone else find that 'locate' does all the wrong things for them? It's not that it's incapable of doing what I want but the defaults seem to be set up to be purposely the opposite of what I actually need it to do. The defaults for 'find' on the other hand are almost exactly what I want to do when searching for files. When you give 'locate' a name to search for it finds everything with that string of characters in it, this nearly always results in zillions of hits I don't want. However 'find' only finds exact matches unless you specify an RE explicitly. Yes, I know that you can tell 'locate' to find only exact matches but the default is wrong for me. Secondly 'locate' searches the whole file system, I very rarely want to do this especially as there are incremental backups which produce dozens of near identical hits. With 'find' I can specify (have to specify in fact) the root of the search which again is nearly always exactly what I want to do. In this case it's much more difficult to make 'locate' work the same way as 'find' because you'd have to rebuild the database (I did do that once but my changes got lost in an upgrade I think). So, is there an alternative out there that works (by default preferably) like 'find' but uses a pre-built database like 'locate' so is reasonably fast? -- Chris Green

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FTP server with compression for large text files
by Mark Rogers 16 May '14

16 May '14

I need to set up an FTP server to host fairly large text files (.CSV). At the FTP client level these need to be uncompressed but I'd like to reduce server disk requirements by using compression. I guess I could either do this at a file system (FUSE) level or transparently within an FTP server, assuming there is an FTP server that can do this. Anyone got any experience with this or suggestions? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Scrap IT kit
by Laurie Brown 13 May '14

13 May '14

Hi all, Does anyone on the list know of a company in East Anglia that buys scrap IT kit? Servers, desktops, routers, that sort of thing. I've got quite a lot to clear, and I don't really want to give it to the Council! Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] What am I doing wrong?
by mark fernandes 11 May '14

11 May '14

But the mailing list page does point to this About.com page on setting various clients to plain-text http://email.about.com/od/netiquettetips/qt/When-In-Doubt-Send-Plain-Text-E… HTH, Mark

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Why do apache2 and leafnode need /etc/hosts configured with a FQDN?
by Chris Green 10 May '14

10 May '14

I have just moved dnsmasq from one machine to another, the machine I moved it from was only running dnsmasq so it was a bit of a waste of electricity and configuration maintenance. I'm now running dnsmasq on the machine where I also run apache2 and leafnode. Both leafnode and apache2 were perfectly happy before the dnsmasq move, they got a FQDN from dnsmasq presumably as there was nothing in the local /etc/hosts. Since moving dnsmasq to the same machine as leafnode and apache2 I've had to add a line:- 192.168.1.4 chris.zbmc.eu to my /etc/hosts, just chris won't do, even though dnsmasq delivers a correct FQDN with just chris. It's as if leafnode and apache2 go direct to /etc/hosts first. It's hardly a big deal but it just seems wrong somehow, why don't apache2 and leafnode use 'the proper channels'? -- Chris Green

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What am I doing wrong?
by Paul Lenton 10 May '14

10 May '14

Hi all, Every time I send a message to the ALUG list I get a bounceback saying that my message is awaiting moderation for a "suspicious header". Am I adding anything funny into my emails that is causing this? Cheers -- Paul GitHub - EckoZero https://github.com/eckozero Registered Linux user #557339 https://linuxcounter.net/user/557339.html

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Memtest86 always reports bad ram on a specific motherboard
by Srdjan Todorovic 10 May '14

10 May '14

Hi all, I've inherited an old Dell PowerEdge desktop, with 3GB DDR2 RAM in modules of 1GB. Naturally, I ran Memtest86 from one of the Ubuntu CDs. With all 3 RAM modules, memtest fails at approximately 50% of the whole test, at approximate offset of 128MB (40,000++ errors). I then tested each of those RAM modules in isolation, same result. I ran the test of 1 module in a different slot, same result. I then took one of my old DDR2 modules, and tested that in isolation, same result. I have no reason to suspect that my old DDR2 module is faulty. I ran memtest with that module some time ago in an old motherboard and had no issues. The ram was stored in an anti-static bag, but maybe it's possible for that old RAM module to get zapped in storage. Could it be possible that the RAM controller on the motherboard is partially damaged? I have ubuntu running on this machine, and so far no detectable problems. Could it be that memtest86 itself has a bug or cannot execute the tests correctly? >From what I remember, all the BIOS settings relating to RAM are set to auto, but even so the BIOS beeps at me on bootup saying that the memory configuration is not optimal. I am trying to decide if it's worth keeping it for an experimental box or just salvaging workable parts and recycling the rest. Thanks! Srdjan

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Any WordPress experts here - need help selecting a plugin
by Chris Green 10 May '14

10 May '14

I'm adding what is effectively a membership database to a WordPress site, there are a couple of special requirements:- 1 - The members can be individuals or organisations. An organisation member will have the organisation details - Name, address, phone, etc. - plus the ability to add up to five named individuals with simple details for each. 2 - It's a paid for membership so there will be a PayPal button for both individual and organisation membership, we obviously don't want to enter details for someone who hasn't paid. The PayPal buttons can have a 'Take customers to this URL when they finish checkout' option so this could be done by having a separate commit for the input form. The actual data for a member is pretty standard, nothing beyond Name, Address, E-Mail, Phone, etc. Looking for 'membership' or similar on the WP Plugins site pulls up hundreds of plugins all aimed at giving multi-level access to the web site which isn't what we need at all. So, any ideas anyone? I'm happy to customise an existing plugin, I can code in PHP reasonably well, but the more off-the-shelf it is the better of course. It feels like a good club membership database plugin would do but I can't find one in the morass of website membership plugins. -- Chris Green

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Can anyone suggest why this ssh connection only works sometimes?
by Chris Green 09 May '14

09 May '14

I have a Beaglebone Black system on our boat in France which is connected to the internet via a WiFi hotspot. To allow me to connect to it with ssh it is set up to create ssh tunnels to a couple of places where I have logins. I used to run something similar on an ancient eeePc, on that system it remained permanently accessible but on the Beaglebone Black it only allows me to connect some of the time. I have to repeatedly try to connect over a few minutes to get connected:- halon$ ssh -p 51234 localhost ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host halon$ ssh -p 51234 localhost ssh: connect to host localhost port 51234: Connection refused halon$ while true; do ssh -p 51234 localhost; sleep 60; done ssh: connect to host localhost port 51234: Connection refused ssh: connect to host localhost port 51234: Connection refused chris@localhost's password: It's not that the ssh processes on the BBB are dying, they've been running for several days:- chris@beaglebone$ ps -ef | grep ssh root 968 1 0 May04 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D root 1262 1 0 May04 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/autossh/autossh -N -R 51234:localhost:22 -l chris cheddar.halon.org.uk root 1263 1 0 May04 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/autossh/autossh -N -R 51235:localhost:22 -l isbdnet3 shell.gridhost.co.uk root 1264 1 0 May04 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/autossh/autossh -N -R 51236:localhost:22 -l timetode shell.gridhost.co.uk root 3288 1264 0 11:13 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh -L 34227:127.0.0.1:34227 -R 34227:127.0.0.1:34228 -N -R 51236:localhost:22 -l timetode shell.gridhost.co.uk root 9614 1262 0 18:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh -L 34448:127.0.0.1:34448 -R 34448:127.0.0.1:34449 -N -R 51234:localhost:22 -l chris cheddar.halon.org.uk root 9727 968 3 18:20 ? 00:00:00 sshd: chris [priv] chris 9752 9727 0 18:20 ? 00:00:00 sshd: chris@pts/0 root 18064 1263 0 May08 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/ssh -L 61875:127.0.0.1:61875 -R 61875:127.0.0.1:61876 -N -R 51235:localhost:22 -l isbdnet3 shell.gridhost.co.uk So what could be making the tunnels work some of the time but not all of the time? -- Chris Green

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Norwich
by Anthony Anson 07 May '14

07 May '14

Is there a meeting tomorrow? -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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How is this - LAN - supposed to work?
by Chris Green 01 May '14

01 May '14

How is one supposed to use a LAN with a mixed collection of 'things' on it such that you can actually connect to them without simply guessing their addresses? I have just arrived on our boat in France where we have a TP-link WA5210 WiFi box connection to the local WiFi hotspot, on the 'local' side it uses 192.168.13.x. Then there's a standard domestic WiFi router whose WAN is 192.168.13.x hard-wired to the WA5210 that provides WiFi and wire ethernet within the boat. On the boat there's the following:- My Acer Aspire netbook Seimens C475IP 'gigiaset' VOIP phones A Beaglebone Black computer nmiontoring various things An Android tablet (or two) Sometimes an HP printer So it all works from the 'client' point of view in that I can use the iternet from my netbook, the phones work, my wife can read and send E-Mail from her tablet, etc. However it's a total disaster if I want to connect from one system to another. How am I suppsed to find the address of, for example, the Beaglebone Black? Why do routers seem to have forgotten the ability to register names when DHCP clients come along? OK, with just four or five systems I can just try them all but it's a bit crude and painful. Once you get to ten or more it's hopeless. It's why I run dnsmasq on a server on my LAN at home, all my systems (well, nearly all, one insists on being anonymous) have 'names', what an amazing concept! -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Robolinux
by Phil Ashby 30 Apr '14

30 Apr '14

On 28/04/14 12:00, Chris Walker <alug_cdw(a)the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote: > I've just downloaded and installed a copy of Robolinux on a spare > desktop machine. It says that it's a replacement for Windows XP as it > will keep the Windows stuff secure without fear of a virus or malware. > > I paid a few dollars for the basic version as I thought I would be able > to configure the XP stuff myself. But it seems they want me to pay for > more of it first. > > But then the thought occurred to me that I might be able to do all this > stuff with VirtualBox anyway. This is the link to the info about the > secure bit - http://www.robolinux.org/stealth-vm-info/ > > There's a video on the site showing how a virus attacks the VM. What I > find more than a little annoying is that it says I can do this for free > and yet there's no way to get past the donation page. > > The question remains though. Is this special software or simply a > cunning bit of configuration of a virtual machine on the part of > Robolinux? > Interesting - not looked at Robolinux before. I fear making claims such as: "A Windows keylogger, virus or malware cannot attack a native Linux application." and "Windows Viruses and Malware do NOT attack Linux file systems." is just asking for trouble - I can hear the shouts of 'Challenge accepted!' already :-/ Many virii already detect VM environments and self-destruct to avoid the reverse engineering teams who study them, it's only a short step from there to breaking out of the VM via it's 'convenience features' such as drag/drop file transfer, guest-based tools, file shares and clipboard support to infect the host.. game over. Made easier with robolinux using the popular VirtualBox platform too. I've just spent half an hour trying to find their source code: given it's largely built on a GPL Debian base they are obliged to publish their code under GPL too - nothing found. So I've asked on their official support forum if they are open source or not - if they admit to not I'll shop 'em to gpl-violations.org, if they are, I'll ask for the code and notify gpl-violations.org anyway. Phil (in hacker/legal mode today!)

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chromebook for linux - repost from correct address (sorry)
by mick 29 Apr '14

29 Apr '14

Hi guys I currently run mint on a couple of old Acer Aspire One ZG5 netbooks and have been considering getting a chromebook as an upgrade. The use case is travelling light, VPN back home, access to a browser and email, so nothing that will really stretch a laptop (but I /don't/ want an android tab for this). So I need light weight, long battery life, clear (but not necessarily large) screen, decent keyboard. Probably something like the 11.6" Samsung or the Acer C7xx series. But of course I don't want chromeOS so I want to install a linux distro (probably mint) but any distro with XFCE will do fine by me. Any experiences/recommendations out there? Any devices in particular that I should stay away from? Thanks in advance Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Emulating a parallel printer in Linux
by Mark Rogers 29 Apr '14

29 Apr '14

I have a potential customer with some industrial kit that currently prints to an obsolete parallel port (Centronics) printer. They need to keep the kit but ditch the printer, sending the data to a "black box" instead that logs that data. I'd like to do this on a Linux box, any suggestions? Off the top of my head I am thinking I'll need to do a parallel to serial conversion first, then pull the raw serial data into something that can interpret however the data is being encoded for printing. But it's turned out to be quite a hard thing to Google for (although I have found some bits that might be useful). Alternatively I wonder whether the I/O pins on a Pi or Beaglebone could be used to emulate a printer (although I might be way out of my depth there...) Another approach might be lptcap[1] although that's intended for DOS (FreeDOS??) [1] http://www.qi.fcen.uba.ar/materias/iqi/paralel1/home.clear.net.nz/pages/khe… -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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How to make a terminal window stay 'on top' automatically?
by Chris Green 28 Apr '14

28 Apr '14

I want to start a terminal window in "Always on top" mode, is there any way to do this? I can use wmctrl to set the 'above' option but it's a command line utility itself so as this is running from a detached script I'd have to fire up yet another terminal window to run wmctrl to set the option. I need a wmctrl that can run without a terminal! -- Chris Green

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Robolinux
by Chris Walker 28 Apr '14

28 Apr '14

Hello, I've just downloaded and installed a copy of Robolinux on a spare desktop machine. It says that it's a replacement for Windows XP as it will keep the Windows stuff secure without fear of a virus or malware. I paid a few dollars for the basic version as I thought I would be able to configure the XP stuff myself. But it seems they want me to pay for more of it first. But then the thought occurred to me that I might be able to do all this stuff with VirtualBox anyway. This is the link to the info about the secure bit - http://www.robolinux.org/stealth-vm-info/ There's a video on the site showing how a virus attacks the VM. What I find more than a little annoying is that it says I can do this for free and yet there's no way to get past the donation page. The question remains though. Is this special software or simply a cunning bit of configuration of a virtual machine on the part of Robolinux? -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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Syntax problems
by Chris Walker 26 Apr '14

26 Apr '14

Hello, I need more help please. I'm trying to make my machine convert some .ogg files to mp3 using twolame (my distro doesn't have lame, only twolame) and I'm trying to do it like this :- for t in {01..15}*.ogg; do twolame -b 320 $t $t.mp3; done but it's failing with this message 'Usage: twolame [options] <infile> [outfile]' All the filenames are like this '02 - I Close My Eyes And Count To Ten.ogg' with perhaps 15 or so tracks per folder. In order to find my error, I tried this - for t in {01..15}*.ogg;do echo 'found tracks '$t;done and that lists all 15 tracks but despite hacking away for almost an hour, I can't persuade it to convert the files. So what *should* I be typing to make this work? -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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GIMP and photo editing
by Bev Nicolson 23 Apr '14

23 Apr '14

This should be simple and usually, if I want to remove a splodge or mark from a photo I'd use Resynthesise. In this case I want to hide/remove a bit of flower but I've tried Resynthesise and cloning and neither really work. The first seems to use the flower next to it to copy its pixels rather than the soil/foliage and the second makes it look rather too obvious where 'surgery' has occurred. Anyone have an answer? Inkscape is not an answer! (In case you're tempted.) Bev.

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whois, howis?
by Anthony Anson 22 Apr '14

22 Apr '14

Installed whois Terminal: ~ $ whois mcfmarketing3(a)gmail.com No whois server is known for this kind of object Ummm ? -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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sqlite printf not found
by mark fernandes 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

I found this forum post (appears to be a version thingie. http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@sqlite.org/msg83325.html Drat it - you've gotten me interested in using sqlite! Regards, Mark

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Re: [ALUG] How to format numeric output from sqlite3?
by mark fernandes 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

YMMV with this as I'm not an sqlite guru... You may need to prefix the printf with a sqlite3_ . Elsewhere for mprintf example gives: char *zSQL = sqlite3_mprintf("INSERT INTO table VALUES('%q')", zText); sqlite3_exec(db, zSQL, 0, 0, 0); sqlite3_free(zSQL); HTH, Mark

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SQL question for the SQL gurus out there
by Chris Green 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

I think there should be a way to do this but at the moment I can't see how, I always find SQL difficult to fathom though. I have a table with dates, times and temperatures in it. I want to select the maximum temperature for each year, how do I do that? The table has columns as follows:- ID Date Time Indoor Temperature Outdoor Temperature What I want to get out of it is something like:- 2014 21.23 2013 30.45 2012 25.31 It's a sqlite3 database so there's no procedural language easily available. I guess I could write a Python script to do what I want, that might be the easiest way. -- Chris Green

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Fw: Invite: ORG Norwich Launch Event
by mick 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

oops - sorry, last one sent from wrong address. M anyone else planning on going to this? Mick Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 05:32:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Olivia Jardine - ORG <campaigns(a)openrightsgroup.org> To: mick(a)rlogin.net Subject: Invite: ORG Norwich Launch Event Dear Mick Morgan, We’d like to invite you to ORG Norwich’s launch event - The Internet and You: The latest developments in digital rights. http://www.meetup.com/open-rights-group-norwich/events/171314372/ The event will provide an all encompassing series of talks on privacy, surveillance and your digital rights. These will include talks from Jim Killock, Director of Open Rights Group, Paul Bernal, a Lecturer in privacy rights from UEA and Wendy Grossman, author of net.wars. Everyone is welcome, but please reserve your place to avoid disappointment. http://www.meetup.com/open-rights-group-norwich/events/171314372/ When: 6pm, Friday 25th April Where: The Curve Auditorium, The Forum, Norwich How much: Free! The event will provide a fun and informal way to meet with other local ORG supporters, as well as an opportunity to learn about privacy, surveillance and digital rights, so we hope to see you all there. For further details and to let us know that you’re coming, visit our meetup page. http://www.meetup.com/open-rights-group-norwich/events/171314372/ Thanks and best wishes, Olivia --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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How/what does the Heartbleed bug compromise?
by Chris Green 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

I've just been discussing with my son exactly what is (seriously) compromised by the Heartbleed bug. I can understand the basics, it means that something encrypted using SSL (i.e. HTTPS protocol connections) can be decrypted by someone who shouldn't be able to do so. Having said that what can a 'bad hacker' actually do? There's a sea of packets flowing around the internet, picking out a series of packets relating to one 'connection' (i.e. with related information in them) is non-trivial as far as I can see, unless the hacker is sitting looking at the data flowing through a switch feeding one particular site. So, it's possible to hack/decrypt a single packet which I suppose *might* contain someone's login details if the username and password was in a single packet. Is this the extent ot the problem? If there's more to it than this can someone explain. For example MumsNet says it's been hacked as a consequence of this bug, I don't quite understand how someone could get at *all* the login details on MumsNet unless they fortuitously got an administrator's login details and the system is stupid enough to allow an administrator to get at all usernames and unenecrypted passwords. Surely quite simple (and well known) security practices would make this sort of thing much more difficult:- Don't send complete Username/Password details in a single packet, easy enough to do by asking for them separately or even crude padding. Don't store user's details in single, big, unencrypted files. Don't store unencrypted passwords anywhere, use the Unix login style of things so that what's stored is the result of encrypting the password and is difficult (as in requires loads of processor ooomph) to decrypt by brute force methods. -- Chris Green

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How to format numeric output from sqlite3?
by Chris Green 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

OK, so having worked out how to extract maximum and minimum values for each year from my database (thanks Mark), how do I format them? Here's what I get at the moment:- Year MaxTemp MinTemp MaxOutside MinOutside 2010 14.0625 -0.9375 7 -7.6875 2011 25 -2.1875 41.9375 -8.6875 2012 85 -6.25 37.8125 -14.0625 2014 22.125 5.875 32.875 0.5625 It's actually presented as a table in DokuWiki but that doesn't really affect the issue. How do I get the temperatures shown in sensible, consistent format like NNN.N? According to http://www.sqlite.org/lang_corefunc.html sqlite has a printf() function but when I tried it I got an error saying "No such function: printf" and I can't find anything useful about it by Googling for the error or anything related. So any ideas, apart from horrible substr() manipulations? I *could* go into the Dokuwiki plugin I'm using to get the output from the database into tabular format, I've modified it a lot already, but it would be rather messy to do. So I'd like something I can do outside if possible. -- Chris Green

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DLNA server that transcodes - any recommendations?
by Chris Green 14 Apr '14

14 Apr '14

I'm currently running minidlna as a DLNA server and it's fine except that it doesn't offer transcoding. I now have a client that doesn't understand FLAC so I need on the fly conversion of FLAC to MP3. Can anyone suggest a DLNA server that can do this? -- Chris Green

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Update on ATI Problems
by Chris Walker 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

Well, it's up and running with my preferred desktop background, most of the applications are back, such as this 'ere email client, without having to set up all the accounts etc, but I have a problem which appears to be intermittent. The icons at the top right of the windows, minimize, maximise and close, keep disappearing. I'm very reluctant to go mucking about trying various files, just in case, so does anybody have any definite ideas as to what might be wrong please? The desktop is KDE 4.11 as I guess that's important. I've looked at, but not touched the plasma files in ~/.kde4/share/config but they don't seem to hold details of icons and the like. As it's all now working and before it all goes nipple north again, I'm about to do another backup. That way, if it all should go wrong, I know I can get back to a working state without having to download tons of updates etc. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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Old bag!
by Anthony Anson 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

Did anyone notice the white carrier bag (tied up at the top and containing a _BIG_ cup and saucer) which I left in the Coach and Horses last night? 'Taint there today. -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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ATI Graphics failure
by Chris Walker 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Hi, In the past couple of weeks, the screen of my Mageia4 (64bit) machine has decided it doesn't want to display any of the normal desktop icons or display at the full size. Having googled it, I discovered that ATI have moved the driver for my HD4670 card to legacy. So I went to their site and downloaded what they tell me is the correct driver but when I compile it, it's failing. I think the error is because the code is looking for v2.X kernels and not the 3.12 that my machine is running. If I look in the make log, it says this (excuse line-wrapping):- /usr/src/fglrx-8.97.100.7/2.6.x/drm_proc.h:98:2: error: implicit declaration of function 'create_proc_entry' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration] It's the 2.6 bit in there that makes me think is looking for the wrong version of the kernel. Am I correct in thinking that, and if I am, what can I do about it? I should say that this sort of stuff doesn't come naturally to me and that it's taken me 2 weeks to get to this point, so a little hand-holding will be required! -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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Subscription language
by Chris Walker 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

Following a sudden and very large increase in spam mail to a previous address used here, I've changed it slightly and of course, in doing so went to the lists web site. Just one question, why is the language set to English USA? As far as I know, they don't speak English, certainly it's not any English I recognise and I spent some time working over there ;-) As an aside, has anybody else noticed a large increase in spam to what was, a previously 'clean' address?

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 10th April
by Viperfang 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 10th April at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Asus EEE PC 900 partitioning
by Tony 06 Apr '14

06 Apr '14

I've acquired an Asus EEE PC that had windows XP on it. It has two SSD's, a 4 gig and an 8 gig and 1GB ram What I'm thinking of doing is partitioning as follows: 4GB SSD: /boot 250mb / (root) whats left 8GB SSD /usr 16GB SD card (class 6) swap 2GB /home whats left Would it be an idea to add /tmp and/or /var to the 8GB SSD or would you recommend a different schema? OS will be LXLE. I've installed LXLE but without the 16Gb SD card (using a 512mb SD card as swap to check it works okay which it does) but undecided how to partition for the final instal using the 16Gb SD card. Thinking of putting swap on the SD card as they are cheap and easy to replace and its easy to backup/restore whatever is on it. Probably not best performance wise but feel advantages out way disadvantages (i.e. less wear/leaves more room on SSD, cheap and easy to replace. will allow hibernate function) Not sure what I will use it for yet, probably mainly surfing, emails and watching movies on the move or from separate mythtv backend using VLC. A lighter OS such as AntiX would probably be better suited but I'm trying to use the same distro on everything (laptops, desktops & netbooks) and LXLE is my preference. I also have squid-deb proxy set up to cache updates. So far liking it more than my Android tablet :)

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 4th April.
by Viperfang 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Mobile phone external aerial - to improve reception
by James Freer 29 Mar '14

29 Mar '14

Anyone else living in an area with poor reception? For me I get one signal bar with T-mobile - and that's on a good day! Other networks nil. I have been trying to set up an external aerial and I was wondering if anyone else had tried this. james

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Going back to VPNs - when I have one set up what does it do for me?
by Chris Green 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

I keep thinking that a VPN might be what I need, but then when I look at VPN documentation etc. I wonder whether it is what I need. So, if I set up an OpenVPN server on my home desktop machine (which stays turned on all the time) and set up access for me as a client from my laptop, what does it mean that I could do that I can't do already? Or, maybe more to the point, what does it make it easier to do? (Note that my home desktop is visible at a fixed IP address from the outside world and I can open up any additional ports through the firewall if necessary.) -- Chris Green

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Strange 'bandwidth strangulation' when using ssh on DFDS public WiFi
by Chris Green 24 Mar '14

24 Mar '14

When this first happened to me I thought it was just a one off oddity but yesterday when I returned on the ferry from France I saw *exactly* the same symptoms on two entirely different systems. It's hardly a big issue either just an inconvenience but I'd love to know why it happens. On the DFDS ferries there is free WiFi available, no hassle, no login required, just an open SSID called DFDS-Pax. My laptop (running Ubuntu 13.10) and my tablet (Android 4.x) both connect to it quite happily. It's reasonably usable as well, hardly lightning fast, but fine for browsing web pages etc. However if I try and connect (from either tablet or laptop) using ssh it starts off OK but after some hundreds of characters it just slows down and stops never to pass another character. If I open another ssh session from the same device the same thing happens, i.e. it gets another few hundred characters through. It's not very consistent, sometimes it doesn't even manage to complete the ssh handshake sequence, but most times it gets to a command prompt and allows me a couple of commands before going to sleep. Anything that generates a lot of traffic (like starting up mutt) always hangs before it gets anywhere but a couple of 'ls' commands will sometimes work. So what might be going on? It's not like ssh protocol is blocked completely so it's not that the port(s) are blocked, it's almost as if there's someone watching and, when they can't see what's being transferred, they stop the data. Any ideas anyone? I suppose I could try a different port for ssh but as it's not specific port blocking I don't think this will fix it. ... and as I said, it's not very important, I don't often want to read my E-Mail while crossing the channel! :-) I'm just curious. -- Chris Green

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Running PHP programs
by Chris Walker 23 Mar '14

23 Mar '14

I want to run Geneotree (http://www.geneotree.com/) so I downloaded it and extracted the files from the zip. I'm not familiar with PHP stuff so I put them in /home/chris/geneotree. There are lots of php files and a few folders but how do I run the thing? There's a config.php file which contains these lines :- ============= <?php /******* PLEASE DON'T MODIFY THE FOLLOWING LINE - NE PAS MODIFIER LA LIGNE CI-DESSOUS SVP ********/ $INSTALLATION_OK = FALSE; /*************************************************************************************************/ /****************************** BEGIN INITIALIZATION CONNECTION PARAMETERS ***********************/ $sql_host = 'localhost'; $sql_base = 'geneotree'; $sql_user = 'root'; $sql_pass = ''; /******************************* END INITIALIZATION CONNECTION PARAMETERS ************************/ ?> ============ Do I need to modify any of them to run it? I'm told that there is documentation on sourceforge but I can't see anything that would help me. I've tried putting htpp://localhost/geneotree in a browser but it fails which is not unexpected. So at this point, I'm stuck and any help would be appreciated.

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Why isn't rc.local getting run? (some sort of runlevel oddity?)
by Chris Green 20 Mar '14

20 Mar '14

I am having trouble getting things in /etc/rc.local to run. As I understand it this *should* be the standard way to make local additions to be run at startup. This is on an Ubuntu 13.10 system runnning on a Beaglebone Black so is maybe a little out of the ordinary. As I understand it /etc/init.d/rc.local gets run by the system startup process and, if there's anything to be run in /etc/rc.local that will be run. This doesn't appear to be happening. If I run '/etc/init.d/rc.local start' manually then the contents of /etc/rc.local get run and there are no errors. So it would seem that for some reason /etc/init.d/rc.local isn't getting run at system startup. The system runlevel is 2. I'm sure that /etc/rc.local should be run at every run level so I don't see how this could affect it. So, what's wrong, or misconfigured? -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Mulberry Tree
by samwise 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back today, 17th March, at 20:00: The Mulberry Tree 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 225776 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA WWW: https://www.facebook.com/MULBERRYHOSPITALITY The Mulberry Tree, previously known as The Milestone Beer House, is a grade 2 listed building in the centre of Ipswich. It is located at the intersection between Woodbridge Road and the A1156, across the road from the old Odeon cinema and not far from the Regent Theatre. It re-opened on Thursday March 29th 2012 after a major refurbishment, under its original name of The Mulberry House and has already begun to regain a good reputation for its selection of beers and ales. It has a sizeable car park to the rear of the building. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Cheers, Peter. -- I have put together a work team to take on the Swimathon 2014 Team 5 km challenge in aid of Sport Relief. All sponsors gratefully received. :) http://my.sportrelief.com/sponsor/samwise ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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HP laser printer
by Anthony Anson 16 Mar '14

16 Mar '14

Connected new HP laser printer (Laserjet Professional P1100w) and Mint found it, knew what it was, installed it, and that was all. Turn it on and lights flash and then settle to a single continuous one, but I can't make it print: it just sits there sullenly. I clicked on 'troubleshoot' and this is the result: ______________________________________________________________________ # hplip.conf. Generated from hplip.conf.in by configure. [hplip] version=3.12.6 [dirs] home=/usr/share/hplip run=/var/run ppd=/usr/share/ppd/hplip/HP ppdbase=/usr/share/ppd/hplip doc=/usr/share/doc/hplip-doc/HTML icon=no cupsbackend=/usr/lib/cups/backend cupsfilter=/usr/lib/cups/filter drv=/usr/share/cups/drv # Following values are determined at configure time and cannot be changed. [configure] network-build=yes libusb01-build=no pp-build=yes gui-build=yes scanner-build=yes fax-build=yes dbus-build=yes cups11-build=no doc-build=yes shadow-build=no hpijs-install=yes foomatic-drv-install=yes foomatic-ppd-install=yes foomatic-rip-hplip-install=no hpcups-install=yes cups-drv-install=yes cups-ppd-install=no internal-tag=3.12.6 restricted-build=no ui-toolkit=qt4 qt3=no qt4=yes policy-kit=yes hpijs-only-build=no lite-build=no udev-acl-rules=yes udev_sysfs_rules=no hpcups-only-build=no hpijs-only-build=no ______________________________________________________________________ Anyone any idea what I'm doing wrong from this? (Or not doing...) -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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wireless broadband in Norfolk
by mick 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

All I know that some people on this list have poor (or even very poor) broadband connectivity. I have just discovered http://www.thinkingwisp.co.uk This company purports to offer wifi broadband over large parts of the county. Their offering looks expensive to me, but then I'm fortunate in having good connectivity at home. However, if you currently have problems then this /might/ be of interest. Note - I have no connection to this company, nor any commercial interest. (Nor do I know if the service is any good....) Mick (Does anyone on the list use this?) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Norwich meeting?
by Anthony Anson 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

I presume there *will* be a Coach and Horses meeting this coming Thursday? -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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main@lists.alug.org.uk problem with grub
by Ben Whyall 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Hi I have a problem I rebooted my desktop and its coming up with the following gave up waiting for root device alert /dev/disk/by-uuid-15e0064a.... does not exist. Dropping to shell. Now my /boot is on a raid partition /root and the others are on lvm2 When I look in the lvm in the shell it suggests that the lvm is inactive. I have tried using a live disk to rebuild grub but I must be missing the correct command fu. Anyone got any suggestions Ben

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SSH Wizardry needed
by Steve Engledow 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

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Owncloud install on a Pi
by Chris Walker 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

In an effort to have local storage of email addresses, calendars and the like, I've tried to setup Owncloud on a Raspberry Pi but it isn't working. Perhaps somebody can point out where I'm going wrong. Here's the story so far. The IP address of the Pi is set by DHCP with the address being fixed by the router at 192.168.1.27. Using a browser from this linux box, if I try to go to https://192.168.1.27 I get a 404 Not Found displayed. There are no errors immediately displayed in the /var/log/nginx/error.log If I then try going to https://192.168.1.27/owncloud I get the same error displayed still with nothing in the above log file. Logging into the Pi itself rather than going through ssh, I started up the Midori browser and tried to go to https://192.168.1.27/owncloud and I then get two entries in the log. They are as follows :- 2014/02/26 18:11:21 [error] 2221#0: *4 directory index of "/var/www/owncloud/" is forbidden, client: 192.168.1.27, server: cloud.wymondham.lan, request: "GET /owncloud/ HTTP/1.1", host: "192.168.1.27" 2014/02/26 18:11:21 [error] 2221#0: *4 open() "/var/www404" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 192.168.1.27, server: cloud.wymondham.lan, request: "GET /owncloud/ HTTP/1.1", host: "192.168.1.27" While I'm here, can I ask another query? In this file - /etc/nginx/sites-available/owncloud.vhost I've left this entry untouched but I need to ask if it's correct # Path to the root of your installation root /var/www/; The reason I ask is that there is an owncloud folder at /var/www/owncloud but it's empty. That makes me wonder if that's the main cause of all the problems.

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Re: [ALUG] HP laser printer
by Anthony Anson 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

On 07/03/14 18:05, Paul Lenton wrote: > I had a similar problem with a Canon MG3200 the other day (on and clearly > connected but just refusing to print) and the answer was a really annoying > one... > > Apparently when the printer loads itself up, it does something wrong so if > you go into the printer menu, remove the printer then manually re-add it, > that may well solve the problem. It did for mine anyway (Ubuntu 12.04) Thanks - I'll bear that in mind if all else fails. -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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Shameless advert for python developers
by Steve Engledow 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi folks, I don't know about you, but I don't like recruitment emails that go to the list but I reckon I'm allowed as I'm a lugger and my job is linuxy and cool :) The company I work for, [Proxama][1], is looking for Django developers to join my quickly growing team of linux-wielding pythonistas. Basically, if you know your way around Python (even better if you know Django too), send me an email. Day-to-day, we write RESTful(ish) APIs going both out to third-party services and to our own mobile apps to provide a tasty platform for building mobile loyalty/payments apps. Our SaaS platform also has a web interface so if web development is your thing (it's not mine), that's good too. We use [ember.js][2] for the front-end; it's funky. Oh yeah, and you get a nice laptop which you can then install any distro you like on it. You can even use emacs if you really want to, you sicko. Steve [1]: http://proxama.com/ [2]: http://emberjs.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTGZJjAAoJEL/3HArzwYbRHCEP/2IhUVbsoXwdPSBJSzMjdMX8 bfXeQtN42PXNVt1tVJo58e1lXLb7cHE+i291XwrIIuBsse9ommDyyIjPci4Ayj3e yqcp/tiiczsNywsg0KFlMMUPQUHKi9vkBMVFPpuNjVIEzNaY0eaxsGJlyEuApZxP 9bl0puRv2SoJ+rgmsBXQjTAqSVuYXmRJqJxlwsm86yKunrf7I0b2P6exWRDA+Gvs ZyrlUU9csPPStcRQ9qK9M9VXHARSzlay4aY53DhpSJmSUPG9mA4HQ0sGlwJ7WhnY 8MpYX2zcN788SweplRpJ2FTB9Tz/DMAJxczhzjbjSI8d1eR91fzsgemBXsFPkcFD UL5ywwMiMf1c0caAPTHqRPj5rwIbYzOWed0YoSnymH7RGVPp0lvuFG1R4wF6yF1Z ja+kakzUtLola8ee7VQAl73Xkb6pHXYFmb0iFd08dTCg0VdIIOgSgnhP4+r/TTFN IlvpWNYxB02lvCZYvn+SG9IwhGWYy6WPIt25kAqI3GLQKdI45NkaHqIx8joLsLV/ wEd/gjQMJAyJn1H//v3q1zlKcVC8VUxPmKKeuWnTeFg06sCp15bj1eQLHh/GAO2X pFBkxw3FGo8PMimZj1t0/nHqF28GTGWI6h1irALRg3eDPmVys2yAxxIDhAnt01nb 6w8ZIyvNtgCuSFF/Y64k =6+SD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 7th March.
by Viperfang 04 Mar '14

04 Mar '14

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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anyone know anything about declude?
by mick 28 Feb '14

28 Feb '14

Guys This mail could be considered off topic because it relates to email rather than FLOSS, but I value the opinions of list members so perhaps you will indulge me. A friend of mine insists that he sees spam email from .ru domains whenever he gets an email from me. Naturally I find this claim a little odd so I asked him to send me some details. He sent me the mail below. I think it is fairly clear that what he is seeing is backscatter from undeliverables where a spammer has used his email address as the (spoofed) sender. So far so predictable. However, the email he sent me includes a set of X headers inserted by an anti spam package called "Declude". One of those headers (X-Declude-Sender:) includes one of MY email address. My reading of the declude manual suggests that what should be shown here is HIS address (as the suspected sender). Can anyone suggests what may be going on here? If a spammer were using my email address as the spoofed sender I would expect to get the bounce message, not him. I have obfuscated both my friend's address and mine. I have also removed the "goo.gl" URL in the email because it was obviously hostile. The failed recipient address is the original, as are the IP addresses. Best Mick ----------------- email sample ------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: System Administrator [mailto:System Administrator] Sent: 25 February 2014 09:26 To: my-friend(a)his-address.com Subject: Delivery Failure Could not deliver message to the following recipient(s): Failed Recipient: umnovai(a)kfker.ru Reason: Remote host said: 530 5.7.1 No such user! -- The header and top 20 lines of the message follows -- Received: from Unknown (UnknownHost [112.241.213.245]) by mail.delawarewebs.com with SMTP; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 04:23:48 -0500 Message-ID: <8B4E322C08AD471651D1FEEAD2G1D34S@ogunb> Subject: =?windows-1251?B?7+4g8ODh7vLl?= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 13:22:22 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0528_01CF322C.9D8C9660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8289.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Declude-Sender: my-address(a)mydomain.com X-Declude-Spoolname: 217461170.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.13.02 X-Declude-Scan: Outgoing Score [0] at 04:24:02 on 25 Feb 2014 X-Declude-Tests: None X-Country-Chain: X-Declude-Code: 0 X-HELO: Unknown X-Identity: 113.261.243.245 | | rma.ru ------=_NextPart_000_0528_01CF322C.9D8C9660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C4=EE=E1=F0=FB=E9 =E4=E5=ED=FC! =D1=EF=E0=F1=E8=E1=EE, =F7=F2=EE =E7=E0=E8=ED=F2=E5=F0=E5=F1=EE=E2=E0=EB=E8= =F1=FC =F1=E8=F1=F2=E5=EC=EE=E9 "=C0=E2=F2=EE=EC=E0=F2=E8=F7=E5=F1=EA=EE=E9= =F2=EE=F0=E3=EE=E2=EB=E8 =E2 =E8=ED=F2=E5=F0=ED=E5=F2=E5" =D1=E8=F1=F2=E5=EC=E0 =EF=EE=EB=ED=EE=F1=F2=FC=FE =E0=E2=F2=EE=EC=E0=F2=E8= =E7=E8=F0=EE=E2=E0=ED=E0 =E8 =E4=EE=F1=F2=F3=EF=ED=E0 =E4=E0=E6=E5 =ED=EE= =E2=E8=F7=EA=E0=EC! =C2 =F1=E2=EE=E5=EC =C1=EB=EE=E3=E5 http://goo.gl/OBFUSCATED =FF =EE=EF=E8=F1= =E0=EB =F1=E8=F1=F2=E5=EC=F3 =E8 =E5=E5 =EF=F0=E5=E8=EC=F3=F9=E5=F1=F2=E2= =E0, =F2=E0=EA-=E6=E5 =EF=F0=E8=E2=E5=EB =E8=ED=F1=F2=F0=F3=EA=F6=E8=FE =EF= =EE =F0=E0=E1=EE=F2=E5 =F1 =F1=E8=F1=F2=E5=EC=EE=E9! =CE=E7=ED=E0=EA=EE=EC=F2=E5=F1=FC =F1 =E8=ED=F1=F2=F0=F3=EA=F6=E8=E5=E9 =E8= =EC=EE=E6=ED=EE =EF=F0=E8=F1=F2=F3=EF=E0=F2=FC =EA =F0=E5=E3=E8=F1=F2=F0= --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Owncloud on a Pi
by Chris Walker 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

Is there anybody here who can help pinpoint some errors on an Owncloud install on a Pi please? I'd rather not clutter up this list with it as it isn't directly linux related (at least I don't *think* it is) so if there's somebody who thinks they can help, would they email me privately? Ta.

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LUG news
by mick 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

Ted I have been reading my copy of (the first issue of) "Linux Voice". Page 17 of that magazine has an article about the founding of Sheffield LUG by Richard Ibbotson. That article says: "I remember back in the 1990s helping Manchester LUG to come into existence. Dr Owen Le Blanc, David Clarke, Dr Dave Gilbert, Professor Ted Harding and some other notables used to get together on Saturday afternoons to create the first LUG meeeting in the UK." ISTR that you had a manchester.ac.uk email address before you used your own domain. So I assume said notable is you. Care to tell us about it? Best Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Concatenating files
by Chris Walker 19 Feb '14

19 Feb '14

I've been trying for over an hour to concatenate a load of .vcf files for import into another device. I need to have a carriage return and line feed between each vcf so I created a spacerfile which contained just those two characters. I then generated a list of all the files with the ls command. I then used that file like this :- while read file ; do cat $file spacerfile.txt >> all_in_one.vcf ; done <listfile.txt But all I get is a load of blank lines with just one or two vcards inserted and then a long list of the vcf files which is most of the listfile.txt. I am also seeing this type of error :- cat: First: No such file or directory cat: Name.vcf: No such file or directory That made me wonder if it was because there are spaces in the file names and hence in the listfile.txt so I amended the text file so that each space was preceded by the escape character. But it still doesn't work. Where am I going wrong?

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How to choose a WiFi hotspot out of the dozens available?
by Chris Green 19 Feb '14

19 Feb '14

Here I am sitting on our boat at a marina in the middle of London (well, not quite, near City Airport actually) and I have a TP-Link outdoor WiFi extender that I am running in what they call WISP Client mode to connect to a BT WiFi/Fon hotspot. It's working OK at the moment - I'm using it to do this, but I'd like some sort of way to decide on which is the best WiFi signal to use. When I run the TP-Link's 'survey' to see what's out there it reports up to 150 WiFi signals when pointed in certain directions. Obviously I can only use some of these (the BT ones with no security setting in the main) but even then I'm left with quite a choice. So, is the strongest signal always the best one to use, or will a weaker signal on a quieter channel work better? I chose the one I'm using now because it's on channel 7 and there are very few signals on channel 7. There are however much stronger BT Wifi-Fon signals on channel 1 for example but channel 1 is very crowded. While I'm at it - how does it work at all when there are many different WiFi signals on the same channel? Is there some sort of time multiplexing going on? Finally, is it best to avoid channels with *very* strong (unwanted) signals? There's a very expensive 'marina WiFi' system here which has strong signals on two channels, like 20dB or so more than any other signal, is it best to avoid these channels? -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Mulberry Tree ALUG
by samwise 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back today, 17th February, at 20:00: The Mulberry Tree 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 225776 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA WWW: https://www.facebook.com/MULBERRYHOSPITALITY The Mulberry Tree, previously known as The Milestone Beer House, is a grade 2 listed building in the centre of Ipswich. It is located at the intersection between Woodbridge Road and the A1156, across the road from the old Odeon cinema and not far from the Regent Theatre. It re-opened on Thursday March 29th 2012 after a major refurbishment, under its original name of The Mulberry House and has already begun to regain a good reputation for its selection of beers and ales. It has a sizeable car park to the rear of the building. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Cheers, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Two network interfaces - how to set up?
by Chris Green 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

I have an 'interesting' network set-up question. I have just acquired a TP-Link TL-WA5210G outdoor WiFi access point and range extender to use on our boat to improve connections to BT WiFi (e.g. FON and Openzone hotspots). It's working well (I'm using it now). Direct WiFi from my laptop was very marginal here, like it occasionally worked but not often, now I have a perfectly satisfactory, solid, WiFi connection. However, configuring the WiFi extender is quite awkward. It defaults to IP 192.168.1.254 and you configure it on the web at that address (can be changed of course, but factory reset will go back to 192.168.1.254). When working as a WiFi relay though its DHCP server has to be turned off and you have to use WiFi to access the internet. Currently I have the hardwired ethernet connection on this laptop disabled so that everything goes through the 'amplified by the TP-Link' which appears as 'BT WiFi with FON' in Network Manager. It would be nice if I could enable the hardwired ethernet at the same time as the WiFi so that I can talk to the TP-Link router while the WiFi to the outside world is connected as well. So I guess I need:- A static address for the laptop in the 192.168.1.xx range on its eth0 interface. This will work at home as well as long as I make sure it doesn't clash with anything else - that's easy enough. Will just the Network Manager 'manual' configuration do all that's needed? Some sort of routing configuration that says:- If there's only a WiFi connection use it for everything. If there's only a hardwired connection us it for everything. If there's both hardwired and WiFi then use hardwired for 192.168.1.xx addresses and WiFi for everything else. Where/how do I set this up? I'm quite happy to edit configuration files (in fact I almost prefer it to a GUI). If it can be automated easily then good but if it requires a manual 'switch' from one to the other I won't be too fussed. -- Chris Green

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HTTPS issues with Apache
by Stuart Bailey 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

I have a CentOS 6.5 server running Apache 2, and hosting a number of sites. The config is via cpanel. One of the sites has a SSL key with a redirect from HTTP to HTTPS. Other sites are all accessible via HTTP only. This is working fine. However, if I try to access any non-SSL site using HTTPS, I get directed to the SSL site. I have tried adding RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} ^443$ RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.nonsslsite.com [R=301,L] To the htaccess file for the non SSL sites, but this has no effect. Any ideas how I can either redirect HTTPS requests for non SSL sites to a 404 error page, or just redirect to the HTTP site instead? -- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Managing Director) Linux Specialist & Software Developer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phone: (0845) 658 3563 Direct: +44 (0) 1953 601294 Fax: +44 (0) 1603 858583 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.linusoft.co.uk __________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 9373 (20140203) __________ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com

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weather station software.
by nev young 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

I am trying to help a newbie pi user to get his weather station (a WH1081) to work using Consolewd with his Pi. It currently works OK on a windows machine using the GUI version but he wants to use the Pi for reasons of noise, power usage, something to do with a Pi. So far I have managed to follow the instructions here: http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php/topic,59307.0.html?PHPSESSID=sua… (That may have wrapped onto two lines) Including the rather obvious error near the end when copying the lib files. So it works. It reports the data from his station every minute. But it goes wrong after 5 mins. That is when it tries to upload the data to wunderground.com It says it's uploaded the data but we don't see it. Even worse it then spawns a second child so we have 2 copies of Consolewd running and they interfere with each other when reading the weather station data.. After 5 more mins we have 4 copies After 5 more mins we have 8 copies ... etc. etc. Is there any one here who has practical experience of using this software on a Pi who could perhaps shed some light on the problems. Thanks

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Web site improvements/development - costs?
by Chris Green 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

I know this is rather a 'how long is a piece of string' sort of question but I've got to start somewhere. My wife runs a small college and they want to tart up their web site and add some interactive ability to take money for distance learning courses etc. They are particularly short of money at the moment because of the major down-turns in spending on youth work. The improvements in the web site are part of the strategy to bring more and different students on board to keep the college's finances on an even keel. As far as I can see with a quick glance there's around 50 pages on the site though maybe more as the pageid parameter runs up to just over 100 when you browse round the site. The main requirement is to make the site more interesting to look at rather than to fundamentally change its layout and design. The thought is probably to use soemthing like WordPress to create the site and to pay for someone whose major function will be to make the site attractive. So - what sort of money are we talking about? Hundreds of pounds, thousands of pounds, whatever? The existing site maintainers are asking for the college to pay for a 'web site audit' before they do anything more which seems a bit of a cheek because they ought to know about the site already. Any/all ideas etc. would be very welcome. -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 13th February
by Viperfang 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 13th February at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Tool for checking for WiFi signals
by Chris Green 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Is there anything better than Network Manager for checking for WiFi signals? Network Manager is fine for when I'm at home where the laptop and tablet simply connecting to the home router but as soon as there's any difficulty deciding what to connect to it's pretty useless:- There's no control over [re-]scanning so you can't move to different positions and request a re-scan to see if there are different WiFi signals and/or signal strength has changed. The signal strength indication is no help in optimising the signal, one needs a more accurate level indicator to tell if moving this way or that improves the signal. There's no indication of the type of encryption on signals which have encryption keys. This is a real killer sometimes when somoene knows the password/key but not what *type* of key it is. I had this problem at my wife's office recently. Windows XP reports the encryption type so surely Linux should be able to. Are there any tools specifically for scanning/characterising WiFi signals and/or are there any replacements for Network Manager that make handling WiFi connections easier? -- Chris Green

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 7th February.
by Viperfang 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Analogue output over HDMI from Pi and other Linux boxen
by Mark Rogers 24 Jan '14

24 Jan '14

If I have something like a Pi or any other small Linux based box (I'm thinking mainly about the cheap Android PC sticks you can get for about £30 with just an HDMI output), would it generally be able to output unencrypted audio over HDMI so that I can break it out using a simple cable[1]? I'm looking to play with multi-room audio on Linux and little boxes like these seem ideal if I can get audio out of them easily. I can't think of a good reason why Linux will encrypt things by default (and none of my sources will have evil DRM on them) so this ought to work fine, didn't it? [1] Eg: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190893868511 -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Re: [ALUG] Analogue output over HDMI from Pi and other Linux boxen
by Phil Ashby 24 Jan '14

24 Jan '14

On 23/01/14 12:00, Mark Rogers <mark(a)quarella.co.uk> wrote:> On 20 January 2014 17:59, Chris Green <cl(a)isbd.net> wrote: >> I've done Android Tablet -> Bluetooth -> Speakers which seems to work >> OK, does using the HDMI offer any advantages over using Bluetooth (e.g. >> better quality)? > > The only advantages I'm working with at the moment are: the stick has > an HDMI port that would be more "tidy" if used than not used, and it > doesn't have bluetooth so that means sticking a bluetooth USB adapter > in. Neither are big reasons (I'm pretty sure the bluetooth USB > adapters you can easily pick up from Poundland and similar stores will > work fine so it's not a cost issue!) > > Also, in some rooms I already have stereo equipment so the idea would > be to bring audio into the AUX input on that, rather than directly to > speakers. (If a stereo has the ability to take audio via bluetooth > from a mobile phone, I assume that would allow me to send it from the > Linux box that way instead?) > > On the other hand if I want to put something into a room which > currently has nothing maybe bluetooth makes more sense in that > instance. However I assume that bluetooth would add some latency? The > whole idea is that the audio between rooms would be synchronised. (I > am of-course assuming that the HDMI output wouldn't add any latency > which may well be a faulty assumption.) Since HDMI is a digital interface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI), this scheme would need an external conversion device to extract the analogue audio for an AUX input (usually 3.5mm socket), something like these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/hdmi-to-audio-converter and of course none of those have the right gender HDMI connector for a cotton candy or similar device.. It all looks a bit kludgy to me? Of course you could insist on a HDMI capable TV at each station and get the full benefit of that HDMI connector :) Phil.

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Image viewer offered for Writer files puzzle
by Bev Nicolson 21 Jan '14

21 Jan '14

When I get a document attached to an email (.doc or docx it doesn't matter) the only application I am offred to open it with is Image Viewer. Is there a way of changing this? I've looked at Image Viewer and Libre Office and there doesn't seem to be a way of stopping this. Ideas? Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Mulberry Tree ALUG
by samwise 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back today, 20th January, at 20:00: The Mulberry Tree 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 225776 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA WWW: https://www.facebook.com/MULBERRYHOSPITALITY The Mulberry Tree, previously known as The Milestone Beer House, is a grade 2 listed building in the centre of Ipswich. It is located at the intersection between Woodbridge Road and the A1156, across the road from the old Odeon cinema and not far from the Regent Theatre. It re-opened on Thursday March 29th 2012 after a major refurbishment, under its original name of The Mulberry House and has already begun to regain a good reputation for its selection of beers and ales. It has a sizeable car park to the rear of the building. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Cheers, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Simplest way to see what speed ethernet is using?
by Chris Green 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

I'm sure I asked this some time ago (i.e. some years ago!) and used the recommended program to check if all my ethernet links were actually running at the spped they were supposedly capable of. I want to check again and I can't find/remember the program to use. I have found ethtool which tells me the speed of a specific port on the system where it is running but I seem to remember there was a tool which somehow checked both ends of a link and told me that the remote end speed as well. That's the remote end at the other side of routers, switches etc. Maybe I'm imagining it as I don't really see *how* such a tool could work. The basic requirement at the moment is that I want to check that the link to my backup system in the garage is still running at full Gigabit speed. The remote system is fairly limited and, although I have ssh access to it, I can't find ethtool or an equivalent for it. -- Chris Green

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Meeting?
by Brett Parker 10 Jan '14

10 Jan '14

I think Chris probably meant this to go to the list... so... (Also: Chris, you probably want to check your address book, sending to main-bounces tends to end up with it not getting to the list, as it's an unrecognised bounce so only hits the list admins) ----- Forwarded message from Chris Walker <cdw_alug(a)the-walker-household.co.uk> ----- Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:10:15 +0000 From: Chris Walker <cdw_alug(a)the-walker-household.co.uk> To: main <main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Subject: Meeting? X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu) I've looked on the web site about a meeting and it says 'Second Thursday of the month' but has that been thrown out of kilter by Christmas and the New Year or will there be a meeting at the C&H tonight as usual? I was expecting to see an announcement on Monday as normally happens, hence the question here. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Brett Parker

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Android email
by Chris Walker 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

Do we have any Android fans here? I am having problems left right and centre with the email app on my new Jolla phone (it runs a modified version of the Maemo/Meego OS that was on the Nokia N900/N9 and is now called Sailfish). Quite why I should have these problems is beyond me but in order to prove, to myself as much as anybody, that it's the email app itself that's at fault, I want to install an Android app. The phone runs Android apps natively in addition to its own OS stuff so is a valid test IMHO. So can anybody recommend a good email app for Android phones? I want it to sync with an IMAP mailbox but don't want calendar sync.

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Any experience of FreeNAS / OpenMediaVault
by Ewan Slater 02 Jan '14

02 Jan '14

Hi All, Looking at rebuilding a redundant machine as a home NAS. I'm trying to decide between FreeNAS and OpenMediaVault. Has anyone deployed either or both of these, and if so, what was your experience? Cheers, Ewan

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Spreading the word
by Chris Penston 02 Jan '14

02 Jan '14

Hi everybody, I don't post that much from here in lonely Lynn but I just thought I'd let you know about a little Xmas success story that occurred this year. You might remember me mentioning my 83 year old mother who unknowingly uses Ubuntu for her computing needs (and incidentally now wouldn't be without her Android tablet). Well, cash being tight, I decided to take a chance with a present for my 3 year old nice by putting Qimo for kids on a 10 year old laptop and see what happened. Needless to say it was a great success. I received a text from her mum on boxing day, telling me she thought the present was "a stroke of genius" as Ellie hasn't stopped playing with her 'pooter' since and won't be parted from it. So a big thank you to the wonderful Linux community for the fantastic work that you all do for making one little girl's Xmas so special. Happy New Year to you all. Chris

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Auto dating?
by Chris Walker 29 Dec '13

29 Dec '13

I guess that I am like many others who use dates to file emails. So I have folders inside Sylpheed and Claws like ALUG->2013-December and so on. But of course we're nearing a year end. Is there any way to automate the creation of directories and filters for email programs? I've looked online and see something similar for Thunderbird but not for Claws and Sylpheed. Does anybody have any ideas about the best way to do this? Or is it best to do it manually?

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Cross platform calendar syncing
by Chris Walker 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

I've just bought myself a new phone to replace my ageing Nokia N900 and now want to migrate the 6 calendars I have on that to the new phone. But while I'm doing that, I thought I ought to find a way to sync them with a desktop calendar, or some other calendar and that's the purpose of this mail. I was confused by the URL of this - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Radicale/ to imagine that it ran on a Raspberry Pi but is it a practical proposition to run something like Radicale on a Pi so that I can sync calendars from for example, a Blackberry Playbook, the N900, this 'ere linux box, a Windows machine and my new phone which is a Jolla device? Or should I think of something else, which doesn't necessarily have to run on a Pi?

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Re: [ALUG] Wifi and network monitoring
by mark fernandes 21 Dec '13

21 Dec '13

Greenfield mode on Virgin routers discussed here (basically router then only supports n - no a/b/g) http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Up-to-30Mb-Setup-Equipment/Greenfield-m… HTH, Mark

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server load issues
by Jenny Hopkins 19 Dec '13

19 Dec '13

Hullo there, I'm troubleshooting a debian server that is intermittently freezing up and consuming 100% cpu. The problems began about five days ago. At around this time two things changed: exim configuration, and a related server IP (where this server sends on some of its mail). There have also been various package upgrades. The changes to exim were minimal - change of relay address, so are likely to be unrelated, but thought I'd better mention them. Munin shows a grapical report of the load here: http://aleph1.co.uk/munin/aleph1.co.uk/stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk/load.html The strange thing is how it was spiking like mad on the 12/13th then calmed down for a few days until yesterday. I can't seem to isolate any particular process on the server when this happens. Restarting various services can bring it down, but there is no indication that these processes are going particularly mad beforehand. I can't find anything in the server logs reporting anything unusual amiss. There seems to be plenty memory and swap space on the system. I've been running htop and trying to catch what starts the freezing, but it seems different every time - a process will show it is using 100% CPU, then htop itself goes sluggish with lag and when it next shows something there are several processes using 100% CPU in a queue. It can then take up to two minutes to type a command into an ssh terminal. iotop doesn't show anything significant either. Unfortunately these tools are also subject to lag so are probably not showing the current state at time of freeze anyway. I've tried running tools like iostat, but fail miserably to understand the resulting jumble of numbers. If anyone can point me to better diagnostic tools, or give any hint of where to look for the culprit of this behaviour, I'd be most grateful. Cheers, Jenny

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Mulberry Tree ALUG
by samwise 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back today, 16th December, at 20:00: The Mulberry Tree 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 225776 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA WWW: https://www.facebook.com/MULBERRYHOSPITALITY The Mulberry Tree, previously known as The Milestone Beer House, is a grade 2 listed building in the centre of Ipswich. It is located at the intersection between Woodbridge Road and the A1156, across the road from the old Odeon cinema and not far from the Regent Theatre. It re-opened on Thursday March 29th 2012 after a major refurbishment, under its original name of The Mulberry House and has already begun to regain a good reputation for its selection of beers and ales. It has a sizeable car park to the rear of the building. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Cheers, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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On-line backups
by Laurie Brown 14 Dec '13

14 Dec '13

Hi folks, Does anyone on the list have any recommendations for secure, reasonably-priced on-line backup services that are Linux-friendly? Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

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Force quit command?
by Bev Nicolson 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

The force quit applet on the panel freezes everything so I've ditched that but Libre Office is still unresponsive having tried to open a .docx file. I've tried killall -9 in Terminal but it doesn't recognise that. What's the command now? TIA. Bev (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.)

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Re: [ALUG] Fwd: Re: ALUG Posting Etiquette - was Cross-platform text file processing tools
by Steve Engledow 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

On 05/12/13 12:20, mbm wrote: > Me too. But can we add "Please avoid top posting" > > Mick :-) > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse both brevity > and top posting. > ----------------------------------------------------- And sigs that present lame excuses for doing so? ;) Steve

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HTOP help
by Bev Nicolson 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

I get the impression that it takes longer for this machine to boot than it used to when I had to use Windows because I was still unsure how to install Ubtunu. Advised that HTOP would be a good choice I have installed it. Now, how do I use? Can someone explain it to me? What would a problem figure be for example, and how would I deal with it? Ta. Bev.

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Wifi and network monitoring
by Mark Rogers 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

At home I have a Virgin Internet connection, with one of their Super Hubs (the older "version 1" type). Every so often the wireless connection drops out for a few seconds. By which I mean everything looks fine (connection is still healthy) but attempts to ping "the Internet" (eg Google's DNS on 8.8.8.8) go nowhere. I suspect that the problem is the router but Virgin won't give me another unless I can "prove" that's where the problem is. They mostly blame wifi signal issues caused by other routers in the neighbourhood (and microwaves etc), which might or might not be correct. When I put the router into modem mode and used my own wireless router, I no longer had the problem, however I did have other issues (which I think were caused by the wireless router and/or the Super Hub, but can't put my finger on what they might be - it was just generally unreliable). Following a visit from a Virgin engineer, at which point things were reset to a standard config, I haven't bothered to put my wifi router back in, but the occasional drop-outs are back (the first one within 10 mins of the engineer leaving). Since then I have started monitoring wifi signals using an Android app (I couldn't make sense of Kismet on my laptop, and when I tried wavemon it crashed my laptop (kernel panic). The joy of proprietary drivers no doubt.. I have switched the wifi to a quiet channel although it's been changed a few times in the past without improving things and the most recent change has also not helped. So, what I want to do is (a) monitor the wifi connection, by (eg) pinging both the Virgin hub and 8.8.8.8 from the laptop every second or so and logging any issues (thus I should be able to determine whether it's the wifi/router dropping out or the Internet connection). I would (b) do the same from my desktop to determine whether it's the wifi or the router (if it's not the Internet connection). And ideally I'd (c) do the same on my wife's laptop, but that is Windows 8 so I'd need something cross platform to do that. If there's something I can also do from an Android phone (d) that would be great. Hopefully (a)-(d) will tell me fairly conclusively where the problem is, and if it's the router be enough to convince Virgin to send me a new one. It helps that my contract is up for renewal in Jan... Any suggestions on how to do (a)-(d) and/or other ideas welcomed. Other notes that might be relevant: I previously tried a cheap wireless-N USB dongle in the laptop and that made no difference, so I don't think it's the laptop hardware, Also, I am currently using a cheap no-brand Android mobile, and I've noticed that (at home only) sometimes the Wifi connection gets "stuck" - it stops working but if I try to turn it off it just sits in a half-way "trying to turn off but not off yet" state until I reboot the phone. I'll blame the cheap phone for failing to handle whatever is going on, but it's more evidence to me that it's something about the Super Hub wifi that's behind all this. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Reclaiming Cost of Pre-Installed Windows Licence
by Nick Heppleston 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

Hello All, I am planning on purchasing a laptop for my step-son who is a Linux fan (I run Linux Mint on the 'family' laptop). I imagine I will be buying something with Windows pre-installed. Does anyone know whether it is still possible to reclaim the cost of the Windows licence that comes pre-installed? Do I claim this back from Microsoft or the manufacturer? Rgds, Nick. -- Nick Heppleston Modhul Ltd (http://www.modhul.com) Tel: 07989 581766 E-mail: nick(a)modhul.com LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nickheppleston Registered in England and Wales (Company Number 6171967) Registered Address: Wymondham Business Centre, 1 Town Green, Wymondham, Norfolk, NR18 0PN United Kingdom

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Libre Office Calc bug
by Bev Nicolson 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

I created and saved a Libre Office calc doc today but try as I might cannot open now. Thunderbird takes ages to try and shows a load of html stuff where a thumbnail of a document usually is. If I try Libre Office I get an input/ouput error. Googling suggests this is a known bug but I wondered if there was any way of getting round this (without using MS office.) Ideas? Happily I don't use it that often... Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 12th December
by Viperfang 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 12th December at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Planet ALUG
by Brett Parker 08 Dec '13

08 Dec '13

Hi, I've just had (well, ok, for the last couple of days), failures from all the livejournal feeds that we had on `planet alug <http://planet.alug.org.uk/>`__, and so I have disabled them. We've now got very few people on our planet, so if you've got a blog, and you'd like it included in our feed, then please let me know... I've also moved how the planet configuration is edited, and so now Steve Engledow also has access to edit the configuration (and it being in git means that in theory I can actually clean the config up because we've now got proper version history). Cheers, -- Brett Parker

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For Sale, Pocket Oscilloscope
by Wayne Stallwood 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Ok so not very Linux related, but it is running OSS and is a nice little toy for those of us who have been playing with Arduino etc. Arm DSO DS-203 based pocket oscilloscope, £80 delivered....Grab yourself a little Xmas present. http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/DSO_Quad Oscilloscope, Logic analyser, SigGen (with freeform wave generation mode) and Spectrum Analyser. Spare memory slots for additional applications. Latest FPGA image is loaded so it is now capable of 72Ms/s in dual channel or 144ms/s in single channel. 72Ms/s still isn't lots though. In real terms it is usable up to 20Mhz or so so ideal for Arduino projects. Does all the usual, X-Y mode, Math functions, extended trigger functions. Measurement range up to 80vpp on a 1x probe. Open Source software, Currently a fork is loaded of the factory image which has a vastly improved UI over the screenshots you see on the internet. It's easy to revert though https://github.com/gabonator/DS203 Comes complete with 2 switchable 1x/10x Probes, soft carry pouch and the usb/charging lead. Hardly used and in as new condition, when I tinker I'm bench based now and I have a really good Tektronics scope for that. It's not by any means a serious reference instrument. I'll run it up against my Tek and get it as close to calibrated as it is possible to get these before it is posted. It's a great little indicator tool though. The software is getting better and better.

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Cross-platform text file processing tools
by Mark Rogers 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

I have a requirement to do some scripted text file processing on Windows. I plan on using a cross-platform tool (awk comes to mind) but as I don't have any real skills in anything (I used awk many years ago but not recently) I thought it best to come at it with a clean slate, as I will want to re-use the skills I pick up (almost entirely on Linux). What I need to do in this case is read a CSV file, remove a few lines that are of no interest and combine a couple of fields to create new ones. Awk would definitely do this (albeit I have some reading to do to remember how) - but is it still the best tool for the job? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 6th December.
by Viperfang 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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UPS recommendation
by Ben Whyall 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

Hi What are peoples recommendations on a UPS, living in near Ely now I have found that the power has dropped twice in the last couple of months due to 'substation faults' and would like to get something to protect my equipment and allow for graceful shut-down. Ideally I would need power for my workstation, router, network switch, phone, 2 monitors, external drive bay and laptop. Ideally 5-10 mins, minimum power to allow for a quick pause to see if the power is coming back followed by a manual power down. All help, suggestions and pointers gratefully received. Ben

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Mulberry Tree
by samwise 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back today, 18th November, at 20:00: The Mulberry Tree 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 225776 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA WWW: https://www.facebook.com/MULBERRYHOSPITALITY The Mulberry Tree, previously known as The Milestone Beer House, is a grade 2 listed building in the centre of Ipswich. It is located at the intersection between Woodbridge Road and the A1156, across the road from the old Odeon cinema and not far from the Regent Theatre. It re-opened on Thursday March 29th 2012 after a major refurbishment, under its original name of The Mulberry House and has already begun to regain a good reputation for its selection of beers and ales. It has a sizeable car park to the rear of the building. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Note: I'm unable to attend this evening as I've got a prior committment - I strongly recommend emailing round / jumping on IRC / posting to the main ALUG mailing list, to check who else will be about. I'll endeavour to get over later in the evening, but not sure when I'll be free. Cheers, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 14th November
by Viperfang 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th November at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Simple SMTP server for authenticated mail relay
by Mark Rogers 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

I need to setup a server to allow authenticated SMTP from various devices. It won't be high volume, and it'll sit alongside other apps on an existing server. SSMTP is my default choice for a simple SMTP server but I don't think it'll do what I want here - any suggestions? I was hoping to avoid something as "big" as Postfix/etc -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Cross compilation
by Chris Walker 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

Apologies if this doesn't fit well here but I'm stuck and need some help. If I should enquire elsewhere, please feel free to point me in the right direction. I've been trying for some time to write an app. I tried first of all to do it for my phone but gave up with that and am now trying to modify it for a Blackberry Playbook. The problem I have is that when I upload the compiled app to the device, it complains and says 'libmeegoplugin.so' uses incompatible Qt library. Expected build key "arm qnx qcc no-pkg-config", got "Windows mingw release full-config" My problem is that I don't have a clue how I might generate another shared object but this time with the correct build key. Before you ask, I didn't generate that one, it came as part of a download which the author said worked for him. I can't see how but never mind. I built the Qt Creator install from source from instructions here - http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building-Qt4-for-Blackberry So did I miss a step there, or can I go back and redo some or all of those steps to recreate the file but this time in the correct format? I have also looked long and hard online for a version with the correct build key but without success so I'm having to ask here for help. For those with long memories, I have asked in the distant past about SQL tables and got help here. I'm guessing that was probably two or three years ago but that data was for this app. Yes, I have been at it for that long! I'm no programmer as is obvious ;-)

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Alug 2nd Thursday Social Meeting Reminder
by Steve Engledow 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th November at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Steve Engledow aka Stilvoid

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how to read outlook express files
by mick 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

Hi guys I have been given a large stash of (email I believe) files with the extension .eml. I think these were created with outlook or outlook express. I have no MS software. The files appear to be text/XML but reading them with a text editor is difficult in many cases. Does anyone know of a linux based application I can use to make this task any easier. Cheers Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fw: Make this your moment
by mick 07 Nov '13

07 Nov '13

All See below mail from ORG. Is anyone interested in the possibility of setting up a cryptoparty? Anyone from norwich2600 on the list with views? Is there likely to be a demand for such a party in Norfolk (or perhaps the wider Anglia region? Anyone with any similar experience (such as key signing parties)? Mick Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 05:43:48 -0500 (EST) From: ORG- Ruth Coustick-Deal <ruth(a)openrightsgroup.org> To: mick(a)rlogin.net Subject: Make this your moment Dear Mick Morgan, How can we protect our email, IM chat and web browsing from the prying eyes of GCHQ and the NSA? Over the last few months we've learnt more and more from Edward Snowden and The Guardian about just how exposed our online communications are. To help protect our online privacy, we're looking to help you put on a Cryptoparty in your local area. Could you be a key organiser for one near you? Reply to this email to let us know. https://www.openrightsgroup.org/cryptoparties Cryptoparties are an easy and effective way to extend technical knowledge of encryption programs. All they require is a venue with internet access and power sources. We're also looking for people who are happy to teach others how to use encryption tools such as PGP, OTR and Tor. Are you able to provide this technical knowledge? Or are you keen to help organise the event? If so, it'd be great if you could be a key organiser of a local Cryptoparty. Reply to this email to let us know you're interested. https://www.openrightsgroup.org/cryptoparties We'll help you organise along the way and provide the essential materials to help make the event a success. There may already be an existing local ORG group in your area. https://www.openrightsgroup.org/groups/ If you'd like more information on how to organise a Cryptoparty, help can be found here: http://www.cryptoparty.in/organize/howto If you have any questions on how we could support you further, then of course just email me on campaigns(a)openrightsgroup.org So as Cryptoparty say - let's party like it‘s 31st December 1983! Thanks and best wishes, Olivia ___ Olivia Jardine Campaigns Intern Open Rights Group Follow us on: Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/OpenRightsGroup Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/openrightsgroup Google+ - https://plus.google.com/116543318055985390327 ORG relies on supporter donations to run campaigns like this. Please join us to support ORG's work. https://www.openrightsgroup.org/join This email was delivered to: mick(a)rlogin.net If you wish to opt out of future emails, you can do so here. http://action.openrightsgroup.org/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.i… --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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