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by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

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Forwarded message about Sheffield Linux Seminar (markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk) 2. RMS talking in London, 12 Feb (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:05:15 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Forwarded message about Sheffield Linux Seminar Organization: Sheffield Linux User's Group Subject: Linux Seminar Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:05:45 +0000 Reply-To: Richard Ibbotson <richard(a)sheflug.co.uk> Hi Just a quick note to explain about our seminar in February. If you would like to know about Samba 2.3 then you might like to come along and ask Jeremy Allison some questions. You might also want to talk to Georg Greve who is the president of the European Free Software Foundation. For more info have a look at.... http://www.sheflug.co.uk/seminar.html There will also be several other speakers who can probably give you some interesting facts. Although the whole thing is free and lunch will be served you will need to use the online registration form so that we can understand how many people will be coming along for lunch..... http://www.clubukonline.co.uk/local-events/Linux/linux.html we find that for some reason just the Netscape browser refuses to look at this page but I'm fine with Opera, Konqueror and Mozilla. Thanks -- Richard www.sheflug.co.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:57:16 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] RMS talking in London, 12 Feb It looks as though I'll be there, as there's a possibly interesting (to me) conference in London that day. -- MJR Reply-To: Alex Hudson <home(a)alexhudson.com> To: FSFE-UK <fsfe-uk(a)gnu.org> Subject: [Fsfe-uk] [Fwd: [Gllug] Talk by Richard Stallman in London, 12 Feb] For those unaware, QMUL = Queen Mary, University of London, in the East end. I don't know if I'll be going yet - I'm going to try - if there are any fsfe-uk'ers going I might try harder ;) I know it's preaching to the converted, but hey. Alex. - -----Forwarded Message----- > Tuesday, 12 February at 7pm > Skeel lecture theatre, the people's palace > QMUL Mile End Campus > http://www.qmul.ac.uk/travel/mileend.shtml > > RICHARD STALLMAN, software hacker (in the "geek" sense), founder of the > Free Software Foundation and of the GNU Project, and principal author of > some of the most important GNU software, will briefly be in London in > February. We are fortunate enough to have him come to Queen Mary, > University of London, at short notice to give a public lecture on > "Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks". > > Stallman has a long-held belief that software should be free in the same > way that mathematical knowledge has traditionally been free--this is > manifested in the GNU General Public Licence (and friends) and "copyleft". > > In order that we may gauge numbers, if you wish to attend the lecture > please contact Sue White: suew/rms(a)dcs.qmul.ac.uk or 020 7882 5217. > > > Lecture Abstract: > > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed > to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing > press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer > networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying > for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we > seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of > copyright--to promote progress, for the benefit of the > public--then what must be done is either to reduce copyright > powers or effectively eliminate them, depending on the kind of > work. Governments must now protect the public's right to copy. > > > Background URLs about the GNU project, "GNU/Linux" and free software: > > http://www.uk.gnu.org/ > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html > > Richard Stallman's personal web page: > > http://www.stallman.org/ - -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug(a)linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug ------- End of Forwarded Message -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Re: [Alug] Debian rsync update has problems!
by MJ Ray 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

> A disturbing report about problems with the Debian rsync > security update http://lwn.net/daily/ ... But no details seen. Details are thin on the ground. Allegedly, there is data corruption involved, but there is no reference about that on the debian lists that I have spotted. If anyone feels like doing a test... > Anyone on the list know exactly what the problem with it is? > LWN is not a source prone to spreading FUD. LWN have just done exactly that by posting rumours without reference or an apparent reason for withholding such a reference. Extremely bad journalism. -- MJR

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My neighbour's modem again SOLVED!
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

It was Steve Fosdicks suggestion of trying ps -ef that showed up the following: root 2487 1 0 20:09 ttyS0 00:00:00 /sbin/getty -w 115200 ttyS0 Commenting out the appropriate line in /etc/inittab solved the problem. Thanks for all your suggestions - we got there in the end. Barry Samuels

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Debian rsync update has problems!
by James 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

A disturbing report about problems with the Debian rsync security update http://lwn.net/daily/ ... But no details seen. I'm a RedHatter - but the Debian types using rsync should exercise caution with this update. Anyone on the list know exactly what the problem with it is? LWN is not a source prone to spreading FUD. --James

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My neighbour's modem again
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

I posted in the middle part of January about my neighbour's external modem that wouldn't dial out and failed with "NO CARRIER". This was running under Progeny Debian. The latest development is that we have discovered that it will dial when running in Single User mode on his machine but not otherwise. It will also work perfectly on my machine running either Debian 2.2 or the same version of Progeny that I've installed on his machine and with a simple ATZ initialisation string. Does this give any clues as to why it won't work on his machine? All advice gratefully received. Barry Samuels

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Update/Sources CD(s) available
by James 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

Now taking requests for CLUG and ALUGers that want RedHat 7.2 Updates but don't want to spend three days downloading them from a dial-up connection... Non RedHatters may still find stuff of interest on it, and can copy that from the CDs I will bring with me, if they don't want the RedHat rpms. So it may be worth your time to skim this post. Email me no later than 2100 this evening to get me to burn additional copies for pickup at CLUG CB2 or ALUG Cheveley. One 680Megabyte CD that I collated two weeks ago has been vastly exceeded by another 502 Megabytes of various bug and security fixes [1] - original posting ref I have also included the rysync update; this made it out to the distribution update FTP sites in the early hours of this morning. But AFAIK email list notifications have not been posted yet. Of particular note: I have included OpenSSH v3 rpms in addition to the RedHat production releases that only patched 2.9 Note also that the there are brand new install floppy images, this corrects a problem with some SCSI and RAID situations. I was unable to find any mirrorsites that had actually updated their image directories, even though they had synchronized with all the new rpms in most cases. New XFree / KDE / KOffice rpms feature. Anyone that wants more detail about the security and bugfixes in production updates: hop over to https://www.redhat.com/support/errata/rh72-errata.html Finished downloading all the updates around midday; now I have plenty of room on the second CD to include the most recent sendmail and apache tarballs for the more adventurous. I'll probably include the newest LSM selinux patches and the most recent kernel.org sources as well. apache 1.3.23 was released on 24th January, but it may be a while before the various distributions package it, as the most recent work has been focussed almost entirely on security related stuff. The latest sendmail tarball of 8.12.2 will be included (fixing the zombie processes that occurred woth the first 8.12 release) I will certainly bring two CD master copies with me. And additional copies for those that ask for them in advance. If anyone else wishes me to burn them a set of two CDs, please email me directly no later than 2100 this evening. Replacement with good quality 80m (700M) blank CDrs acceptable, discretionary tips from the less employment challenged are always welcome but entirely optional <G>. I'll be compiling the CDs later this afternoon, but obviously won't have time to do thorough checking of all the rpms (other than a crude md5 listing for later comparisons). So feedback from folks that use this stuff would be much appreciated, before I go through the process of re-spinning an installation CD. Then separate updating on new installations becomes much less of a burden. Longer term, as part of selinux work: I'll probably try to integrate filesystem crypto, IDS (snort), and various other goodies to bring it in line with the custom 6.2 distro that was commisioned for a commercial project last year. Place your orders! See you all on Sunday. --James [1] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RedHat 7.2 Updates Anyone? Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:31:40 +0000 From: James <jtl1listmail(a)bigfoot.com> Organization: James - (jtl1-BF)

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My email block this W/E
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

Hi Folks, If anyone was thinking of emailing me about a lift to ALUG (or for any other purpose), please be aware that nessie.mcc.ac.uk (the machine that receives my email) will be down for most of the weekend (it seems it has already started) for a complete software upgrade. While I can still send mail, incoming mail will be queued and delivered in due course; but I won't be seeing it until nessie is back up again. Meanwhile, if needs be you can try phoning 01353 676 367 Sorry for any inconvenience, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 26-Jan-02 Time: 13:23:00 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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My email block this W/E
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

Chère Edith, If you were thinking of emailing me this weekend, please be aware that nessie.mcc.ac.uk (the machine that receives my email) will be down for most of the weekend (it seems it has already started) for a complete software upgrade. While I can still send mail, incoming mail will be queued and delivered in due course; but I won't be seeing it until nessie is back up again. Meanwhile, if needs be you can try phoning 01353 676 367 Sorry for any inconvenience, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 26-Jan-02 Time: 13:31:27 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Dialler for X
by Edenyard 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

Dear Listers, Does anyone have any suggestions for me regarding a PPP dialler that will run under X? I've been persevering with Kppp for a while now, but it doesn't seem terribly stable and I'd really like to get rid of the bloat of KDE. I don't use it at all except for Kppp (much prefer icewm!), so it seems rather a waste of space to keep it just for a dialler. I've heard of Wvdial, but I understand that it's not a graphical dialler. Are there any others that you could recommend? Many thanks for any clues! Gerald.

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Lift available from Colchester on Sunday 27th
by Peter Onion 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

I'll be comming up form Colchester on Sunday. I can either traveling via A12/A14 or Xcountry via Haverhill. Does anyone want a lift ? Peter Onion.

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