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Re: [Alug] Version Numbers
by MJ Ray 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Andrew Savory <a.savory(a)btinternet.com> writes: > Thank goodness Debian's release process is as rigourous as it is. Shame it > takes them 2 years to punt one out, though... Steady on... it's only been 1 year since 2.2 and there have been 3 security releases. The freeze for 3.0 has started. 18 months is probably closer ;-)

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Version Numbers
by John Seago 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

I am currently wrestling with Red Hat 7.1, (seawolf). Do the issue/version numbers in the full package follow the same numbering system as the kernel numbering, is 7.1 a development version of 7? If so would I be better off getting hold of issue seven, as some applications seem to crash, (this is most likely due to my blundering than any inherent fault). Having got the KDE Email and web browser up and running I am now trying to get Balsa to work, the incoming mail is fine but with the same settings as in KDE it does not seem to work, obviously there is something I've missed. Can anyone advise me please? John Seago

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Re: [Alug] Version Numbers
by MJ Ray 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

John Seago <john.seago(a)btinternet.com> writes: > system as the kernel numbering, is 7.1 a development version of 7? With RedHat, no, as far as I know. > If so would I be better off getting hold of issue seven, as some > applications seem to crash, (this is most likely due to my blundering > than any inherent fault). I've heard the criticism of RedHat that they have done a "if it compiles, ship it" strategy with 7.1 rather a lot recently. Can any of our RedHat users confirm or deny that?

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Re: [Alug] Where to buy a Slackware 8.0 box in the UK?
by Joss Winn 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Thanks for your suggestions on where to get Slackware 8 in the UK. What I really want though is to buy the offical box set with manual. Partly to support the distribution and partly because I want the printed manual. Any sugestions on the offical box set are still very welcome. cheers! Joss --

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Re: [Alug] Bash script help please!
by MJ Ray 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

bsamuels(a)datamansys.co.uk writes: > Is it possible to compare the sizes of two files from within a Bash > script? I don't need to know the actual sizes just which one is the > bigger file. bigger_file=$(ls -S1 file1 file2 | head -1) > I can't find anything useful in the Bash man page. That'll be because it's in the ls man page. Hope that helps.

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make-kpkg buildpackage
by Andrew J Glover 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Hello, I finally got round to running 'make-kpkg buildpackage'... And installed the resulting debs. However /usr/include/linux still hasnt been updated to the current kernel headers, is this "normal" behavoir for that, I thought it would update them... Help please! Andrew

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Re: [Alug] Beta testers needed for off-topic Alug list :)
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Martyn: I still can't see you from here - my subscription is being bounced: "No route found to domain lists.alug.org.uk from server NOTESSERVER/TCL. Check DNS configuration." Anything I can do? Jenny

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Re: [Alug] Beta testers needed for off-topic Alug list :)
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Adam Bower wrote: >does lists.alug.org.uk exist ? just it seems unreachable. I can't get this link to work either. Jen

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Ooops....
by Earl Brannigan 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Hi all, Couple of points : 1)If I have to wait until the full digest comes then I have to scan for those threads I am following - sometimes the digest is massive. But if I get cc'd I see where the discussion is going in 'real' time and can ensure I know the score. Recent posts on religion and spelling a case in point. I had no idea until this morning's digest that so many people were pissed with the discussion going the way it did, by which time I had already posted. Whats more, the digest is just that, a digest of the ongoing discussions. How often have I responded to a question posed in the digest then with the next digest found multiple replies prior to mine, which were evidently posted prior to the digest being generated ? Alot of other lists either send out each mail to all subscribers (eg. mod_ssl mailing list) or advise if someone has posted a response in the same thread or as a reply to yours. 2)People do go off topic occasionally, I don' t think its such a bad thing, we are not robots, there are a number of things which we 'bring to the party' if they are relevant. Whether something is relevant or not can be pretty subjective. Free software is a community of people. User Groups are made up of people. Of course there needs to be some discipline to avoid tons of off -topic stuff cluttering things up, but people first! 3)If people are resigning from the list because a thread went off topic then I am very disappointed. Surely a complaint/flame against the culprits is better. (I can handle it, no asbestos required). Or to put it another way :Grow up and Get a Life! Finally, I don't actually think the thread was that far off topic. I could go into a number of (arguably interesting) parallels between the history of the church and the evolution of free software. But who cares! BTW, for what its worth, I am an atheist. (Or is that too far off topic, maybe I should resign from the list...) Cheers Earl

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Beta testers needed for off-topic Alug list :)
by Martyn Drake 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Hi, I've set-up a list called (thanks to Mark Ray for the suggestion of the name) social(a)lists.alug.org.uk, which does exactly as it says on the tin. It's intended to move off-topic threads onto a seperate mailing list so that much more Linuxy thing can be discussed on this general list. I need people to help test it, and the best way to do that is to use it. All you need to do is visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/social for more information. I've attempted to keep the look and feel of the main subscription list information page, but there may still be a few bugs here and there. Regards, Martyn

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