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Meetings
by MJ Ray 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Well, it would seem that the IRC meetings are still going on, despite my lack of attendance. Just to remind the newcomers who have subscribed since the website went live, they're on eu.openprojects.net in #alug every Monday at 2000 UK time. Feel free to drop in and get real-time help while we wait for the main meetings to back into their rhythm. (Any news, anyone?) MJR

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Ports tree
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Does anyone know of a BSD-ish ports tree being developed for Linux? Either currently, or a project in the past? Is it worthwhile, or does a suitably structured source directory and some discipline make it irrelevant? MJR

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > MJ Ray wrote: > > Is Zeus open source? > Err don't think so somehow. :) Of course, no-one ever made money from developing open source commercial software... I always thought people paid Zeus for the wonderful support? Anyway, very OT now.

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> writes: > 2) Until I can get Zope working with Zeus (pesky Zope!), I'll add a > redirect to the Alug site at FreeZope. Similiarly for the alug.org.uk > domain too. Is Zeus open source? If so, you should be able to edit both Zope and Zeus to see what the problem is with interfacing the two? Failing that, can we run Zope's ZServer straight out onto the net for now, caching it later if needed? Just ideas, MJR

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Re: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > Neither http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ nor www.alug.org.uk are working today > but the prototype site at http://freezope.nipltd.net/alug/ is! What gives? No idea. I suspect the number of diving trees we're seeing around here at the moment are giving people something else to think about. Hopefully someone will get to it before too much longer. Portables charged, everyone? :/ MJR

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Web site not working
by John Woodard 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

Neither http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ nor www.alug.org.uk are working today but the prototype site at http://freezope.nipltd.net/alug/ is! What gives? Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] The future of *nix - opinions sought
by MJ Ray 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

David Cartwright <dsc(a)cube8.com> writes: > Are Microsoft really catching up? Are Sun and HP losing out to > Linux? Well, Linux is catching up with MS in terms of market share, while it seems that MS is catching up in terms of stability and "gee wow" UI frippery (from what I see on my neighbour's Win2k desktop). I'm still healthily doubtful about Windows being able to work on two architectures equally well, as we all remember what a success NT on Alpha has been, right? Sun and HP probably are losing the low-end to Linux. How far that goes depends what tactics Sun and HP adopt to block it (as this nearly always results in shooting oneself in the foot) or adopt it (which sometimes helps, sometimes hinders). > Will Linux be big on the desktop? Whatever happened to SGI? Well, as you know, where I'm working already has Unix on the desktop and a growing proportion of them are Linux now, because it's cheaper to roll out than Solaris (even though the Solaris OS has no purchase cost to us either) and there's more documentation and assistance out there for it. SGI appear to be confused. > Should we all forget commercial *nixes, or do the Suns and HPs of > this world still have plenty of marketplace alongside those of us > with Linux on our laptops? Wait and see what happens on SMP, clustering, etc. Some of the pure mathematicians are already a lot happier running their software on Linux rather than the Suns, as they can add more power more cheaply(sp?) to commodity x86 hardware. > Dave Cartwright > (yes, the ex-UEA/SYS one for those who remember) Applying for any upcoming UEA vacancies? ;-) MJR (yes, the current UEA/MTH one)

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[Alasdair Kergon <agk@ukuug.org>] Vinton Cerf - London, Fri 3rd Nov, 6.30pm (UKUUG/ISOC)
by MJ Ray 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:39:48 +0100 From: Alasdair Kergon <agk(a)ukuug.org> Subject: [lugmaster] Vinton Cerf - London, Fri 3rd Nov, 6.30pm (UKUUG/ISOC) The UKUUG is pleased to announce another free evening meeting in the very successful 1999/2000 series that has included well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Eric Raymond, and recently James Gosling. Date: Friday 3rd November 2000 Times: 6.30 p.m. - 8.00 p.m. Speaker: Vinton G. Cerf Sr. Vice President for Internet Architecture and Technology MCI WorldCom Widely known as a "Father of the Internet," Cerf is the co-designer of the TCP/IP protocols and the architecture of the Internet. In December 1997, President Clinton presented the U.S. National Medal of Technology to Cerf and his partner, Robert E. Kahn, for founding and developing the Internet. Title: The 21st Century Internet Tidal Wave The talk opens with a brief bit of history and philosophy related to the Internet, then discusses the current status and scale of the Internet, where its services are available, and then goes on to explore applications of the network, especially the newer ones in addition to email, world wide web, and remote interaction. The talk finishes up with a look at expansion of the Internet beyond planet Earth. The talk will be followed by a question and answer session. Vinton Cerf has been hailed as the father of the Internet. He co-created TCP/IP 24 years ago and broke down policy barriers, a feat that turned the government-based network into a revolutionary commercial medium. Throughout his entire career, the 55-year-old Cerf has taken his love of science fiction, his knowledge of computer science and his sensitivity toward humanity and melded these qualities to vastly improve the way the entire world communicates and gathers knowledge. The Internet has become the fastest-growing communications network, touched by everyone from techies at NASA to schoolchildren in rural America. Venue: Cruciform Building Lecture Theatre 1 (Red Building - opposite UCL's main gate) University College London Gower Street London WC1 This event is open to all - free of charge; advance booking is not required. For further details (Vint Cerf's full biography and related URLs) please visit the UKUUG website: http://www.ukuug.org/events/cerf -- UKUUG Administration -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.lug.org.uk http://www.linuxportal.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The future of *nix - opinions sought
by David Cartwright 26 Oct '00

26 Oct '00

Hi all, I'm writing about what's next for *nix for the weekly trade paper Network News. The specific brief goes like: "We would be looking at what the Unix world is doing now that Microsoft and Intel are beginning to catch up with IA64 as well as any moves in the market - ie what flavours will survive, and what won't". Are Microsoft really catching up? Are Sun and HP losing out to Linux? Will Linux be big on the desktop? Whatever happened to SGI? Should we all forget commercial *nixes, or do the Suns and HPs of this world still have plenty of marketplace alongside those of us with Linux on our laptops? I'd be very interested in the group's assorted thoughts about the general future for *nix. Cheers, Dave Cartwright (yes, the ex-UEA/SYS one for those who remember)

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Re: [Alug] Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > Some of the time servers I use are a bit flakey. It's not easy finding a good > set :-( dir.mcc.ac.uk is the most common one used by UK University sites, I believe. There is a list of time servers online somewhere (search google for ntp primary), but the nearest official one is Norway at the moment, I believe. MJR

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