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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Network Woes! (Telehouse networking)
by MJ Ray 22 Apr '01

22 Apr '01

It definitely sounds like the switch isn't detecting new devices properly. There could be something else, but you don't really want to do forensics (replace bits until things work) on it at this location. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] I have achieved the impossible.
by MJ Ray 22 Apr '01

22 Apr '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > PS I thought making a sun box running solaris was impossible to crash > but managed that one recently as well! No, that's actually very very easy if you know the right (wrong?) way to stroke it. It's also possible to leave it functioning but in various states of unrecoverable brokenness, thanks to the modular nature of most Unix systems. The admin tools and documentation seem rather primitive compared to Linux's, yet are incredibly over-engineered. Basically, it's bizarre. ;-) -- MJR

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Desperate Apache Problem!
by Mark Wilkinson 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

One of our RedHat servers decided it wasn't going to play ball this morning (worthy of another email on exactly this subject actually) but as an upshot of this, I've had to move several websites to another server that is being good. So... ftp'ed the websites to the other server and cut-n-pasted the apache config file etc. After fidding around a bit have managed to get everything up and running -except- for two virtual domains which aren't behaving themselves. As it happens, these two domains are on both 80 and 443 (SSL). When I access them, I get an HTTP 302 which I don't really understand. All the other domains are working fine. Have examined the logs and used telnet to connect to port 80 to see exactly what headers etc are coming back. Normally, a 302 should give a URL to redirect to, which in this case is "http://" without any other info. Weird. Any ideas/clues - am getting very frustrated now? Cheers. Mark W. PS. apache 1.3.14 w mod_ssl 2.5.1 and mod_php4.0.4pl1

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Re: [Alug] can anyone help with installing a driver?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

>I always thought that the "modconf" program would do it all for you? >It was pretty straight forward when I installed the same network card. It seems to do much the same things as insmod, on looking at the man page. I don't think I've done a single thing that has been "straightforward" since i started doing linux.....makes me suspicious. Perhaps i should stick to being a musician.

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Network Woes!
by Mark Wilkinson 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

OK, Here's another one for you experts out there. We've got a 24 port hub/switch in telehouse which is connected to a router. We've got several machines connected up and they are running great. No problems. Excellent connectivity. One of our guys goes down to London yesterday and swops a network card in one of the boxes and installs a fresh new RedHat box in the cabinet for us to play with. Things start to go weird.. The box with the new network card in it and the totally new box can see all the other machines on the subnet and they can see each other. Fine up to now. So.. I try to telnet into these boxes from home (NTL dialup modem) and can't access them. I can access all the other machines on that subnet no problem but not those two machines. In addition, those two machines can't see the router that's attached to the hub. I'm running no clever firewalling or anything on any of those machines. My thoughts are that the switch is misbehaving and is about to smoke or that the router is selectively ignoring certain addresses... Any other thoughts on this? Cheers. Mark W.

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Re: [Alug] can anyone help with installing a driver?
by MJ Ray 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > So does it make sense to create a directory called 3c509 and put the same > info in it and run update-modules? How does update-modules know that it now > edits in from the new 3c509 file rather than the ne file, if so? Personally, I'd make a file and check over the "aliases" file too for good measure. Grep for ne in there if you want to be really sure. > I'm in a "groan, this is all too hard" mood today. man update-modules seems to say as much as there is, but I can't believe that of Debian... it's probably in a manual somewhere too. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] can anyone help with installing a driver?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

>Personally, I'd make a file and check over the "aliases" file too for >good measure. Grep for ne in there if you want to be really sure. Yep, I made the 3c509 file, ran the update modules, and sure as eggs it has picked it up. However, somewhere the card is still bound to ne.....not in aliases, not in modules.conf.....so when I try to bring up eth0 it is telling me "ne.c: No NE*000 card found at i/o=0x2a0 eth0: unknown interface: No such device"........anyone have any idea? Thanks, Jenny.

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can anyone help with installing a driver?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Hi All, I've swapped my DLink net card for a 3com509B to see if I can get better results. I've got as far as loading the necessary 3c509 driver and associating it with eth0, rather than the previous ne driver. However, being unfamiliar with Debian I am not sure as to how to go about changing the modules.conf......in /etc/modutils I have a directory called ne, and in this I edited the address and alias eth0 lines to suit, then ran update-modules. So does it make sense to create a directory called 3c509 and put the same info in it and run update-modules? How does update-modules know that it now edits in from the new 3c509 file rather than the ne file, if so? I'm in a "groan, this is all too hard" mood today. Thanks, Jenny.

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Re : Weird FTP Problem
by Mark Wilkinson 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Just did an "ifconfig -a" on this machine and got these results... lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:768631 errors:15310 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:768631 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:57:DD:B5 inet addr:213.254.160.138 Bcast:213.254.160.191 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2147483647 errors:17121303 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:191986865 Interrupt:12 Base address:0x6c00 eth0:1 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:57:DD:B5 inet addr:213.254.160.140 Bcast:213.254.160.191 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:12 Base address:0x6c00 Who thinks this is a dodgy network card (see overruns on eth0)? Mark W. BTW : Looks like I was wrong about this machine having a 100meg card in it!

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