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[Alug Announce]Summary for 10 March 2004
by MJ Ray 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Announce v3 Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce Hello! The format of this has changed, after some problems that we just couldn't fix. It's denser too. Hope that's OK. Email things for this to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk like before, please. ALUG Main: --------- 1. Norwich evening meeting on Thu 11 March at 8pm in the City Gate. http://lists.alug.org.uk/main/2004-March/018068.html 2. Please send opinions about a meeting in late March before the end of today (Wed). http://lists.alug.org.uk/main/2004-March/018108.html 3. Mandrake 10 ISOs offered. http://lists.alug.org.uk/main/2004-March/018082.html Debian-UK: --------- 1. Debian-UK meet in Cambridge on Sat 13 March at noon, in the Salisbury Arms. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-uk/2004-March/002073.html Lug.org.uk: ---------- 1. UKUUG have called for papers for their developers meeting in Leeds from Thu 29 July to Sun 1 August. http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2004/cfp.shtml 2. Sheflug's GNU/Linux seminar is at SWFC on Tue 23 March. http://www.sheflug.co.uk/seminar.html 3. Lecture about TCPA on GNU/Linux at Cambridge Uni on 16 March. Details below. 4. The European Parliament passed IPRED. Be unhappy. Be very unhappy. Details to follow, or ask MJR at a meeting. Thanks for reading! Please keep emailing announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk -------- Forwarded Message -------- MICROSOFT RESEARCH LECTURE This is a PUBLIC lecture TITLE: TCPA Enabled Open Source platforms SPEAKER: Demetrios Lambrou INSTITUTION: Royal Holloway University of London HOST: Fabien Petitcolas DATE: 16 March 2004 TIME: 16:00 - 17:00 MEETING ROOM: Lecture Theatre ADDRESS: Microsoft Research Ltd, 7 J J Thomson Avenue (Off Madingley Road), Cambridge The general purpose computer is not an ideal platform to run security sensitive operations. Implementing security services on specialized security hardware is not a cost-effective solution. The Trusted Computing Group have developed a new industry specification which adds a Trusted Computing Base to the general purpose PC with a fraction of the cost of secure hardware. When the TCB is interfaced with the Operating System, security enhanced applications and new security services can be supported by the PC. Such services provide for data integrity, full confidentiality of personal data and protection from unauthorized disclosure. This presentation describes the main concept behind TCPA and how it can be incorporated to an Open Source platform such as Linux. Developing a prototype TCPA agent, has lead to identifying possible problems and how TCPA enabled platforms can be of practical use in today`s information technology. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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debian and kernels and the net
by beneboy 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

I installed woody last week, and have just gotten round to compiling the 2.4.22 kernel. All was well until I tried to access the net. I can connect OK (using wvdial) but I can't get my mail and moz just times out when trying to load pages. I've tried pinging IP addresses with no luck so It's not my nameservers being wrong or anything. I'm guessing that something is stopping the packets from leaving my 'puter. The lack of blinking lights on my modem would suggest ths, anyhow. the config I used to compile the kernel is the one I have used in all my boxes in the past with no problems (including ones with kernel 2.4.22). I used the vanilla kernel source (ie, taken from the PC format discs rather than apt-getting the source), but I doubt that would make a difference?? And even with my shiny new book, 'google hacks' I still can't anything even remotely related ;) help...please...someone. TIA, BenE

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QX3 microscope
by Edenyard 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

Has anyone here ever used the Intel QX3 microscope (the blue plastic one) on Linux? If so, what application is needed to view the pictures, apart from the kernel cpia drivers? And is the QX3 worth having?? Cheers, Gerald.

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Mouse problems - how to specify a PS/2 mouse?
by Chris Green 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

I had a disaster yesterday with my Win2k system, as a consequence I needed to get my Linux system displaying its X desktop directly as opposed to using the Win2k system's X server (cygwin). I had to run xf86config as I'd never set up X on the system before, it actually went quite smoothly without any serious problems and I had my xfce desktop up and running very easily - apart from a non-working mouse. My problem then was that I didn't know what the entries in the XF86Config file were for different mouse types. The HOWTOs tell you which lines to change for different types of mice etc. but they don't tell you what are the possible valid entries. Where can one find this information? I simply couldn't get a PS/2 mouse set up to work and ended up finding a serial mouse and using that. Does one need to change the link from /dev/mouse to /dev/ttyS0 if using a PS/2 mouse? I worked out that the Protocol setting needed to be PS/2 but still couldn't get it working. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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RE: [ALUG] Linux Newbie Book
by Jenny Hopkins 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

> On Tuesday 02 March 2004 15:00, Nick Daniels wrote: > > > > Many thanks everybody for the information, and offers. > I have just checkeked my llocal libary and it has > several copies of "Running Linux" so I will direct them > there. Incredible...our library has an entire shelf devoted to microsoft or how to use the internet but nothing else at all. You can order books, though, so I should think most books are available to those who wait (and pay). There are a lot of helpful web forums for linux beginners, too, such as http://www.justlinux.com/forum/index.php or type linux + newbie into google for more helpful sites. You can ask the most ridiculous questions and no-one knows who you are, unlike this list where you know you will probably meet most people on it at one point or other and they'll go "aaaaah, so *that's* the one who...<insert dumb action here>". :-) Jen ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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Weird 3D behaviour
by Charles Garcia-Tobin 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

Hello all Like the antisocial git that I am, I had to wait until I had a problem before my first post. Anyways the problem is this: On my Suse9.0 box whether I get 3D enabled when X starts up seems be a bit random. Sporadically, (more common on an X restart than the first X boot) 3D will be disabled. When this happens I get the following info on /var/log/XFree86.0.log (II) MGA(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (9, PCI:1:0:0), Device or resource busy (EE) MGA(0): [drm] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. I'm running a matrox G400 card. Another curious aspect of the 3D behaviour is that when it does work, on full screen mode it will change the monitor timings to the point that my monitor will complain their out of range. The monitor will still display, but there is this nasty on-screen-display right in the middle, complaining that the frequency is out of range. Annoyingly there doesn't seem to be way of getting rid of it, so playing a game is a bit tricky. So does anybody know if there is a way of settings the timings for full screen 3D display? Help appreciated Cheers Charles

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xdm, startx etc., what wakes them up?
by Chris Green 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

Another problem I had with my Slackware 9.1 system after running xf86config was that it seemed to doing things 'behind my back' after having configured X. Once I'd configured the XF86Config file I ran startx (I think it was) and up popped my xfce for root (I was still root), great I thought, all is well. However when I rebooted, something somewhere had configured xdm to work for local as well as remote connections. This was (sort of) OK but I'd really prefer it not to happen in the future as:- Most of the time I run my Linux desktop on my WIn2k system using an X server. If/when I log into the Linux box directly it's because something is awry and very often running X automatically will simply get in the way. I want to default to a command line login locally. It uses resources unnecessarily How do you shut down? In the end I CTRL/ALT/F2ed to an alternative console and ran 'shutdown -h now' there but this seems a bit convoluted and as it's not the system console the messages get a bit confused. It meant my mouse problems were worse because gpm had got the mouse configured wrong before X got a look in (or something like that, I haven't really sorted it out yet). -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Re: [ALUG] Anyone want Mandrake 10 ISOs?
by Joe Button 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

On Monday 08 March 2004 09:17, Richard Lewis wrote: > >I downloaded the Mandrake 10 community edition ISOs today, so if anyone's > > in Norwich and would like a copy let me know and I'll burn some CDs for > > you. > > Um, I think only Mandrake club members can donwload the ISOs at the moment. > If you are and have respectively then you probably shouldn't give them away > to non-club members. Everything I'm proposing distributing is under GPL or similar license so there's certainly no legal issue with giving away copies. The download facility is a mandrakeclub membership perk, but the software remains free. This is my understanding anyway. Having said which, I do think that people should do the decent thing and join mandrakeclub unless they really can't afford it, especially given Mandrake's financial problems in the past. I'll be at the ALUG meeting at the City Gate on Thursday so people can get their CDs there. Replacement blank CDRs would be appreciated (it's 4 CDs). I've had three people email me so far - any more takers? Joe

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Re: RE: [ALUG] Anyone want Mandrake 10 ISOs?
by syd＠toufol.com 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

Richard Lewis <richard.lewis(a)uea.ac.uk> wrote on 08.03.2004, 10:17:50: > >I downloaded the Mandrake 10 community edition ISOs today, so if anyone's in > >Norwich and would like a copy let me know and I'll burn some CDs for you. > > Um, I think only Mandrake club members can donwload the ISOs at the moment. If > you are and have respectively then you probably shouldn't give them away to > non-club members. Community edition will be available for general d'load > soon. I'm not sure this is correct. AFAIK although the d/l *facility* is reserved for club members only at present, I don't believe that there are any restrictions on sharing the first four CDs once we have them. (CD5 is commercial s/w AFAIR and is more restricted). But, it does need clarification. When I can get on the mandrakeclub forums I'll ask about this. Syd

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RE: [ALUG] Anyone want Mandrake 10 ISOs?
by Richard Lewis 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

>I downloaded the Mandrake 10 community edition ISOs today, so if anyone's in >Norwich and would like a copy let me know and I'll burn some CDs for you. Um, I think only Mandrake club members can donwload the ISOs at the moment. If you are and have respectively then you probably shouldn't give them away to non-club members. Community edition will be available for general d'load soon. Cheers, Richard

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