Hi Everyone,
I know you're mainly into more esoteric hacking on this phone, but as a starter..... is it possible to get rid of the automated daily email calls, and just use it as a phone, forget all the overpriced email, sms etc...... I know you can reduce the frequency of the calls, but how about getting rid of them completely??? Any ideas??
Gerry
Gerard Jemitus wrote: [...]
*I know you're mainly into more esoteric hacking on this phone, but as a starter..... is it possible to get rid of the automated daily email calls, and just use it as a phone, forget all the overpriced email, sms etc...... **I know you can reduce the frequency of the calls, but how about getting rid of them completely??? Any ideas??*
Nah, we tend to just rip out Amstrad's software completely and replace it. You could probably set something up involving another computer and a modem which pretended to be Amstrad's server, but I doubt it would be worth the effort.
Incidentally, the daily call is to a freephone number --- IIRC, the emailer will never charge you money unless you press the Send/Receive button. The email notification flashing light is done using a nifty caller-ID trick which doesn't involve making an actual telephone call. So provided you let it download its advertisements, it should go on working as a simple phone indefinitely.
Hey Chaps.
Thought this list was dead :(
Any solution yet for those of us with the later PBL? Perhaps using jtag or other means (flash using board test pads)?
Would be nice to finally start coding for this device.
Wizdom
Hi David,
Thanks for the info
Gerry
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On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 07:15:17AM +0100, gizmohacker wrote:
Thought this list was dead :(
No, I think we're all still here. :) I believe sound is still the major piece of the puzzle that's missing; I still haven't got round to trying rawrec to see if recording is working on my unit. I've updated some of my patches to 2.6.17 (available in the usual place), but not all yet.
Any solution yet for those of us with the later PBL? Perhaps using jtag or other means (flash using board test pads)?
Not that I know of. OOI, did your unit come new with the later PBL, or has it been connected up to the phone line and done an update?
J.
Can anyone confirm that? I like the emailers for the combination of easy to use address book and the digital answering machine - I've not seen anything else that combines the two so well. I don't use the email at all - even if it wasn't overpriced, I've got my own mailserver at home, so... I'd like to upgrade to the E3 at home, and also buy one for work, but at home I refuse to pay for so frequent calls for a service I'm not using, and at work premium calls require going through an operator. The emailer I've got at home certainly does involve paying for the email checks, and I was under the impression that the E3 was the same, except with a more frequent minimum period for calling home. I realise the cost of the E3 is subsidised, but I for one would welcome the chance to pay more for a version that didn't have the limitiations...
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: David Given [mailto:dg@cowlark.com] Sent: 16 July 2006 01:35 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Gerard Jemitus wrote: [...]
*I know you're mainly into more esoteric hacking on this phone, but as a starter..... is it possible to get rid of the automated daily email calls, and just use it as a phone, forget all the overpriced email, sms etc...... **I know you can reduce the frequency of the calls, but how about getting rid of them completely??? Any ideas??*
Nah, we tend to just rip out Amstrad's software completely and replace it. You could probably set something up involving another computer and a modem which pretended to be Amstrad's server, but I doubt it would be worth the effort.
Incidentally, the daily call is to a freephone number --- IIRC, the emailer will never charge you money unless you press the Send/Receive button. The email notification flashing light is done using a nifty caller-ID trick which doesn't involve making an actual telephone call. So provided you let it download its advertisements, it should go on working as a simple phone indefinitely.
Kevin O'Donovan wrote: [...]
The emailer I've got at home certainly does involve paying for the email checks, and I was under the impression that the E3 was the same, except with a more frequent minimum period for calling home.
According to the manual, the emailer, by default, attempts to do a send-and-receive daily, but you ought to be able to change this. It *also* calls a freephone number in the middle of the night to update its adverts; you can't turn that off, and if you prevent it from doing this, it'll stop working. And then as a third thing there's the caller-ID trick tells it whether there's email waiting, which doesn't cost anything.
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:45:25AM +0100, David Given wrote:
Kevin O'Donovan wrote: [...]
The emailer I've got at home certainly does involve paying for the email checks, and I was under the impression that the E3 was the same, except with a more frequent minimum period for calling home.
According to the manual, the emailer, by default, attempts to do a send-and-receive daily, but you ought to be able to change this.
I'm pretty sure you can't stop the daily premium rate call, given that this is how Amstrad make back their subsidy.
J.
I only just registered my E3 on Saturday night, but following Davids email re the CLI trick, I set it to receive automatic email notification. So far, it's made just one 0800 call to get adverts, but hasn't attempted to make any premium rate calls...... so, fingers crossed...... keep you posted
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin O'Donovan" kev@coastalcontainer.co.uk To: "'Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software'" e3-hacking@earth.li Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Can anyone confirm that? I like the emailers for the combination of easy to use address book and the digital answering machine - I've not seen anything else that combines the two so well. I don't use the email at all - even if it wasn't overpriced, I've got my own mailserver at home, so... I'd like to upgrade to the E3 at home, and also buy one for work, but at home I refuse to pay for so frequent calls for a service I'm not using, and at work premium calls require going through an operator. The emailer I've got at home certainly does involve paying for the email checks, and I was under the impression that the E3 was the same, except with a more frequent minimum period for calling home. I realise the cost of the E3 is subsidised, but I for one would welcome the chance to pay more for a version that didn't have the limitiations...
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: David Given [mailto:dg@cowlark.com] Sent: 16 July 2006 01:35 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Gerard Jemitus wrote: [...]
*I know you're mainly into more esoteric hacking on this phone, but as a starter..... is it possible to get rid of the automated daily email calls, and just use it as a phone, forget all the overpriced email, sms etc...... **I know you can reduce the frequency of the calls, but how about getting rid of them completely??? Any ideas??*
Nah, we tend to just rip out Amstrad's software completely and replace it. You could probably set something up involving another computer and a modem which pretended to be Amstrad's server, but I doubt it would be worth the effort.
Incidentally, the daily call is to a freephone number --- IIRC, the emailer will never charge you money unless you press the Send/Receive button. The email notification flashing light is done using a nifty caller-ID trick which doesn't involve making an actual telephone call. So provided you let it download its advertisements, it should go on working as a simple phone indefinitely.
From what Cliff said, it sounds like it will. It's a real shame there isn't
an option to buy an unsubsidised one, but I can see why amstrad might not want to take that route. If my emailer had been dialling out daily since I bought it, it would have cost me about £250 by now, since it was about £100 to buy back then.
Kev
-----Original Message----- From: Gerard Jemitus [mailto:gerry@jemitus.co.uk] Sent: 17 July 2006 10:56 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
I only just registered my E3 on Saturday night, but following Davids email re the CLI trick, I set it to receive automatic email notification. So far, it's made just one 0800 call to get adverts, but hasn't attempted to make any premium rate calls...... so, fingers crossed...... keep you posted
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin O'Donovan" kev@coastalcontainer.co.uk To: "'Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software'" e3-hacking@earth.li Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Can anyone confirm that? I like the emailers for the combination of easy to use address book and the digital answering machine - I've not seen anything else that combines the two so well. I don't use the email at all - even if it wasn't overpriced, I've got my own mailserver at home, so... I'd like to upgrade to the E3 at home, and also buy one for work, but at home I refuse to pay for so frequent calls for a service I'm not using, and at work premium calls require going through an operator. The emailer I've got at home certainly does involve paying for the email checks, and I was under the impression that the E3 was the same, except with a more frequent minimum period for calling home. I realise the cost of the E3 is subsidised, but I for one would welcome the chance to pay more for a version that didn't have the limitiations...
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: David Given [mailto:dg@cowlark.com] Sent: 16 July 2006 01:35 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Gerard Jemitus wrote: [...]
*I know you're mainly into more esoteric hacking on this phone, but as a starter..... is it possible to get rid of the automated daily email calls, and just use it as a phone, forget all the overpriced email, sms etc...... **I know you can reduce the frequency of the calls, but how about getting rid of them completely??? Any ideas??*
Nah, we tend to just rip out Amstrad's software completely and replace it. You could probably set something up involving another computer and a modem which pretended to be Amstrad's server, but I doubt it would be worth the effort.
Incidentally, the daily call is to a freephone number --- IIRC, the emailer will never charge you money unless you press the Send/Receive button. The email notification flashing light is done using a nifty caller-ID trick which doesn't involve making an actual telephone call. So provided you let it download its advertisements, it should go on working as a simple phone indefinitely.
Yes, I spoke too soon. It's made the call, and now thinks I have an email message..... although from the email address I made up, goodness only knows who from. Probably a welcome message from Alan Sugar !!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin O'Donovan" kev@coastalcontainer.co.uk To: "'Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software'" e3-hacking@earth.li Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: RE: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
From what Cliff said, it sounds like it will. It's a real shame there isn't
an option to buy an unsubsidised one, but I can see why amstrad might not want to take that route. If my emailer had been dialling out daily since I bought it, it would have cost me about £250 by now, since it was about £100 to buy back then.
Kev
-----Original Message----- From: Gerard Jemitus [mailto:gerry@jemitus.co.uk] Sent: 17 July 2006 10:56 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
I only just registered my E3 on Saturday night, but following Davids email re the CLI trick, I set it to receive automatic email notification. So far, it's made just one 0800 call to get adverts, but hasn't attempted to make any premium rate calls...... so, fingers crossed...... keep you posted
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin O'Donovan" kev@coastalcontainer.co.uk To: "'Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software'" e3-hacking@earth.li Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Can anyone confirm that? I like the emailers for the combination of easy to use address book and the digital answering machine - I've not seen anything else that combines the two so well. I don't use the email at all - even if it wasn't overpriced, I've got my own mailserver at home, so... I'd like to upgrade to the E3 at home, and also buy one for work, but at home I refuse to pay for so frequent calls for a service I'm not using, and at work premium calls require going through an operator. The emailer I've got at home certainly does involve paying for the email checks, and I was under the impression that the E3 was the same, except with a more frequent minimum period for calling home. I realise the cost of the E3 is subsidised, but I for one would welcome the chance to pay more for a version that didn't have the limitiations...
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: David Given [mailto:dg@cowlark.com] Sent: 16 July 2006 01:35 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Gerard Jemitus wrote: [...]
*I know you're mainly into more esoteric hacking on this phone, but as a starter..... is it possible to get rid of the automated daily email calls, and just use it as a phone, forget all the overpriced email, sms etc...... **I know you can reduce the frequency of the calls, but how about getting rid of them completely??? Any ideas??*
Nah, we tend to just rip out Amstrad's software completely and replace it. You could probably set something up involving another computer and a modem which pretended to be Amstrad's server, but I doubt it would be worth the effort.
Incidentally, the daily call is to a freephone number --- IIRC, the emailer will never charge you money unless you press the Send/Receive button. The email notification flashing light is done using a nifty caller-ID trick which doesn't involve making an actual telephone call. So provided you let it download its advertisements, it should go on working as a simple phone indefinitely.
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