Jonathan,

I haven't forgotten about this but right now I'm knee deep in DRX180 and DRX280 Sky+ boxes and haven't got the time to go ferreting for the bits you need - but I will when I get a moment.

Oh, and for the benefit of others, the way the phone works is that at a minimum of 24 hours it will call the server on an 0901 number to send/receive email. If you instigate this manually then you just reset the 24 hour counter. So it never goes more than 24 hours without making a 15p (is it?) call. This is unavoidable and is a condition of use quoted in the Ts&Cs when you started to use it (see also the red letter warnings all over the box and the plastic baggy that the manual comes it) - we don't make a secret of this - it's how you buy £100 worth of electronics for £29. We would eventually like to see that other £70 back and perhaps a few sheckles of profit too ;-)

Independent of the email call there's also a system by which the phone can be triggered to dial out and pick up some adverts during the middle of the night. The call out from your phone is made on an 0808 number which is in the same charging band as 0800 (but for data). This means that such calls cost you, the end user, absolutely nothing.

There are various other charges involved with optional functions on the phone such as sending SMS messages or surfing but the bottom line with those is if you don't want to pay don't use the function. The only obligatory call is that 15p/day for email.

(apologies if I got my facts wrong and it's more than 15p these days - it's been a while since I was involved in the day to day running of the service)

Cliff

-----Original Message----- From: Jonathan McDowell [mailto:noodles@earth.li]

I believe sound is still the major piece of the puzzle that's missing;

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