Suggest you see our recent annual reports for usage figures and revenue but I think last years reports said that to that date we'd sold something like 0.5m emailers and net revenue being received after payback of subsidy was something like £4m..£5m so it's a nice little earner for us and there doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to change it. Remember these things are not aimed at ADSL households in fact they very specifically are aimed at NON-ADSL households and there's still a LOT of those !
However we (like all the big telcos as well) do see the writing on the wall for analogue telecomms and the upsurge in VOIP (hell, even Tesco have primetime adverts for a VOIP phone now) so future plans would obviously be headed off in the VOIP/SIP/RTP direction. But it could still be a few years until we're all part of BT's 21st century project ;-)
Cliff
-----Original Message----- From: Gerard Jemitus [mailto:gerry@jemitus.co.uk] Sent: 17 July 2006 13:48 To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Hi Cliff,
I do appreciate what you say, I just think that in these days of broadband, wireless etc., the charges are unrealistic. Maybe if they were just usage based, and lower, you would actually have sold more phones, and that people would actually use them. I'm only guessing that many of the E3's out there are not being used very much, if at all. It's no use giving the phones away if people aren't going to use them..... better to sell them at a sensible price & make a bit from usage charges.
Cheers
Gerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lawson" clawson@amstrad.com To: "'Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software'" e3-hacking@earth.li Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: RE: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Like I say, we make absolutely no secret of the charging model. It's in red warning labels on the outside of the box and also before you read the manual. As I say you are getting £100+ worth of electronics for £20-£30 so it's hopefully obvious why there has to be a subsidy payback mechanism. As always you pays yer money and you takes yer choice!
We may not have a network to support (though Demon-Thus who act as our ISP do!) but we do have a h/w subsidy to support
Cliff
-----Original Message----- From: Gerard Jemitus [mailto:gerry@jemitus.co.uk]
While the mobile phone analogy works to a point, it's now a primarily usage based charging model, and anyway, mobiles have a network to support. Maybe if Amstrad had gone for usage rather than affectively daily rental plus usage charges, they may have sold a few more.
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Wish I could octuple my money...! (Sighs)
Tolly
Cliff Lawson wrote:
Suggest you see our recent annual reports for usage figures and revenue but I think last years reports said that to that date we'd sold something like 0.5m emailers and net revenue being received after payback of subsidy was something like £4m..£5m so it's a nice little earner for us and there doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to change it. Remember these things are not aimed at ADSL households in fact they very specifically are aimed at NON-ADSL households and there's still a LOT of those !
However we (like all the big telcos as well) do see the writing on the wall for analogue telecomms and the upsurge in VOIP (hell, even Tesco have primetime adverts for a VOIP phone now) so future plans would obviously be headed off in the VOIP/SIP/RTP direction. But it could still be a few years until we're all part of BT's 21st century project ;-)
Cliff
I wonder if the E3 that Alan Sugar uses in the boardroom (on the TV program The Apprentice) phones up to check for email every day.....
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tolly Nelson" tolly@bigredshed.co.uk To: "Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software" e3-hacking@earth.li Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] E3 Emailer
Wish I could octuple my money...! (Sighs)
Tolly
Cliff Lawson wrote:
Suggest you see our recent annual reports for usage figures and revenue but I think last years reports said that to that date we'd sold something like 0.5m emailers and net revenue being received after payback of subsidy was something like £4m..£5m so it's a nice little earner for us and there doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to change it. Remember these things are not aimed at ADSL households in fact they very specifically are aimed at NON-ADSL households and there's still a LOT of those !
However we (like all the big telcos as well) do see the writing on the wall for analogue telecomms and the upsurge in VOIP (hell, even Tesco have primetime adverts for a VOIP phone now) so future plans would obviously be headed off in the VOIP/SIP/RTP direction. But it could still be a few years until we're all part of BT's 21st century project ;-)
Cliff
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