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Re: [Alug] php4 install
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Sean Neakums wrote: >apxs is the part of Apache that generates an Apache DSO; you can't >build an Apache module without it. I think you mentioned you're using >Debian; do you have the apache-dev package installed? I do now! - - with - apxs is fine now, many thanks. However make install stops at "make[1]: *** [libphp4.la] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/php-4.0.6' make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1" Now I do actually have libphp4.la, so i don't know what it is grumbling about now. Cheers, Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] New Subscriber Introductions
by MJ Ray 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

"Martyn Ashworth" <martyn.ashworth(a)eag.uk.com> writes: I'm being mean here. > "an operating system which still baffles me" [...] > RedHat Certified Engineer (some would say just remove the word RedHat!) Hmmmmmmz. > Hope this wasn't too big for readers out there? Nope, it's fine. If only all the lurkers would post something like this about themselves... Welcome to the group!

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New Subscriber Introductions
by Martyn Ashworth 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Hello All, Quick intro time. Name: Martyn Skene Ashworth Age: Have managed to stay alive for 23 years so far. Job: If it's got a microchip inside I deal with it! Based in a company in Mildenhall, Suffolk. Currently working on a large internal PHP/MySQL/Apache system. (get ready for some "help needed" questions soon). Trying to migrate systems from current NT network slowly over to Linux Just looking for like-minded individuals in a world filled with Micro$oft to learn and develop my skills on an operating system which still baffles me 5/6 years after I first touched it. Skill Set (may be some use to someone, someday?) RedHat Certified Engineer (some would say just remove the word RedHat!) Reasonable Pascal Hacker Pathetic C/C++ Hacker Prolific Beer Garden Haunter Hope this wasn't too big for readers out there? Look forward to a (hopefully) interesting experience. Martyn

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Re: [Alug] php4 install
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Andrew Glover said: >Why didnt you 'apt-get install php4' ? Because I'm stupid? In fact, I think I tried apt-get and had various problems. Plus following advice. It's installed fine anyway(she blustered), I just need to be able to load up the lib.php4.so module in apache but don't seem to have it. Ta, Jen

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Re: [Alug] Disk Space for Linux
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

David Freeman wrote> >This sounds like a challenge for the next meet, competition who can get >the most number of OS's on a disk! The computer i built for the kids has a 1.5 g hd, on which I've squeezed win98 and debian; any more could be pushing it ;-)

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Re: [Alug] Disk Space for Linux
by David Freeman 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:32:06 +0100 (BST) Adam Bower wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, John Seago wrote: > > > There would also seem to a problem with the rest of my rather elderly > > computer recognising the whole of the 40 gigabytes, it seems to be > able to > > `see' only 33 gigabytes of the new disk. Some opinions hold that > when divided > > into separate drives it will be able to `see' the 40 gigabytes, > whilst others > > hold that the rest of its innards need upgrading to be able to > recognise the > > whole 40 gigabytes. > > this sounds like a BIOS problem, how old is the motherboard? you may be > able to get a BIOS update so you can "see" the rest of the disk or you may > have to fiddle around with the hard-disk parameters in the BIOS. Unless > you overcome this it is very (read not) unlikely that you will see the > last 7Gb. Bios Upgrades are fun, powercut mid upgrades trashes the MB completely! > As for how many distros can you get on 1 disk, I once did an experiment > with a friend and a 4Gb disk, we managed to install in no particular order > > MS-DOS 6.2 > Win3.11 > Win 95 > Win NT (server & workstation) > Solaris 7 > Netware 5 > Redhat 5.2 (or maybe 6.0) > SuSE 6.1 > Debian 2.1 > one of the BSDs > Beos 3 This sounds like a challenge for the next meet, competition who can get the most number of OS's on a disk! > and possibly some others that have slipped my mind. the most fun part of > this experiment was working out which order you had to install things in > as making sure that one OS didn't overwrite another OSs bootloader. > > Now I make that at least 11 operating systems, so I challenge you to put > around 110 on your new disk with minimum repetitions ;-) Thanks D PS Tickets yes. > Adam > -- > This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed > Adam > > > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! -- "Your house sounds like a fire hazard" Peter Clarke

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Disk Space for Linux
by John Seago 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Chris Drane and I have embarked on an experiment, we have installed a 40 gigabyte hard drive in my computer, in order to accommodate a number of Linux distributions. We would like to know what is the optimum size for one Linux distribution, as the Mandrake I have currently installed takes up a little over 2 gigabytes, (in a 5.5 gigabyte partition), how much more space do they needed over the the actual programme itself? There would also seem to a problem with the rest of my rather elderly computer recognising the whole of the 40 gigabytes, it seems to be able to `see' only 33 gigabytes of the new disk. Some opinions hold that when divided into separate drives it will be able to `see' the 40 gigabytes, whilst others hold that the rest of its innards need upgrading to be able to recognise the whole 40 gigabytes. I would welcome suggestions as what to try out in this new found space, I have an ambition to have an installation of Debian, installed by hand and up and running as a long term project, (I've got to learn how to work Mandrake 8 as yet), I've got Red Hat 7.1, (which I found rather `buggy', before I changed to Mandrake). Time is no problem as I retired early. Slackware 8 looks interesting, Progeny would lead in to Debian, and perhaps BSD for the challenge? Divided into 5 gigabyte chunks I would seem to have room for at least 6, and maybe 8 distributions if we can overcome this 33/40 problem. John Seago, (attempting things well beyond his capabilities)

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php4 install
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Here's a lovely one: I've been re-installing php4 from source. All went well this time. But! The make install command was supposed to have edited my httpd.conf file to enter the dynamic PHP module: LoadModule php4_module libexec/libphp4.so Which it didn't. A search shows I don't appear to have this file. It was no use hopefully editing it in (burying my head in the sand syndrome) as apache is objecting strongly. Is this familiar to anyone? (David? ;-) ) Thanks, Jenny

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Steve Ballmer in action
by Ashley T. Howes 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20840.html They must be putting something in the water at Microsoft! Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Web Developer Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep"

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Re: [Alug] Meeting report?
by David Freeman 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:21:16 GMT Martyn Drake wrote: > Okay, spill the beans - how did yesterday's meet go? :) > > Regards, > > Martyn Having managed to give Mark 125MB of email since 7pm yesterday I think its now safe to post a report. Well My worst fears didn't occur as I got a phone call from Mark at 1pm "Where are you" "getting cash out of a cash point which is giving me a DHCP error" replies I. Once I arrive I get a call from Andrew "I'm at tesco's how do I get to you?" which was duely sorted. 8 people turned up including Steve Fosdick Mark Ray Syd Hancock Neill Newman Andrew Glover Peter Holness Peter Clarke and me. We got the cd-writter and sound working on my new debian install and discovered why I couldn't install netscape. Other than that it was a typical meet with lots of chocy biscuits and stilulating conversation on various subjects. Notable by absence BJ Jen Jo Earl Tarquin So who wants to do the next one? Thanks D > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! -- "Your house sounds like a fire hazard" Peter Clarke

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