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Re: [Alug] SuSE 8, Network server and outside interfaces.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Emma wrote: >Any suggestions as where to look next would be greatly appreciated :) What does your routing table say? Jen. PS. Has anyone noticed my enthusiastic posting today?

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Re: [Alug] A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing . . .
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Kelly Ash wrote: >But...there are many references to things having to do with >Linux that I really have no idea what they're talking about and it starts >becoming frustrating. Kelly - allow this all to soak up like a sponge without understanding it, and one day it will fall into place and become useful. There's no way it all falls into place at first. I do this with everything now, I flounder about just trying to absorb, and let it take its course. Then a year later I'll go "oh, *that* was what that linked library file stuff was about!". (Well, I have still to go like that in this particular instance, actually). The hda/b thing - I think it's pretty clear what the partitions are. Are you dual booting with your win computer? It's a pity you haven't got an old box to have a practise install on so you don't worry about losing anything important. Jen.

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Syd Hancock wrote: >Jenny >You might like to check out Freesco - a router/firewall/dns server/etc >linux distro on a single floppy disk. Syd: thanks, I hadn't heard of this. It looks ideal. Would you recommend a download from the Freesco page, or is it best to install from the cd? >I have it on a massively over-powered machine - a 50mhz 486 with 16 megs of >ram and a hard-drive and it works very well although AFAIK it can be used >with a 386, 8 megs ram and no harddrive. > >If you are interested in trying it out I have another old 486 in the shed - >may need some memory though. > >Regards >Syd Ideally I'd like a better computer to run linux as a desktop on, and use the current old one as the firewall. I don't know if funds will allow for this, I'll see how my bid on QXL for a computer goes (It didn't stay a quid for long!) http://www.qxl.com/cgi-bin/qxlhome.cgi/EN/QXL/PR/U1014887477/_33394770 or try and persuade work I need one at home to learn important stuff to enhance the company on :-) Given the possibility that both of those are highly likely to fail, I may well get back to you on that kind offer! Thanks, Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Syd Hancock 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

>I've been reading about linux security, and apparently the best way is to >have a box acting as an interface running nothing at all except internet >connection stuff, so that everything on the internal network is hidden >behind it. Jenny You might like to check out Freesco - a router/firewall/dns server/etc linux distro on a single floppy disk. There are others which are similar but Freesco seems to be one of the most complete and simplest to set up. It has spawned an entire sub-culture of add-on program with people using the distro for many other tasks such as mp3 server, web server etc. Once installed it can be administered via ssh to get to the command line or a web browser to the control panel. I have it on a massively over-powered machine - a 50mhz 486 with 16 megs of ram and a hard-drive and it works very well although AFAIK it can be used with a 386, 8 megs ram and no harddrive. If you are interested in trying it out I have another old 486 in the shed - may need some memory though. Regards Syd

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Syd Hancock 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

> > Well I've just tried an ATA100 on an ata33 board and it hung in the > BIOS. No > > ways could I get it to boot. > >Very odd .... I'm using a toshiba UDMA100 on DMA(33) machine just fine. Have a look at the manufacturers' websites for info on the drives and possible utilities to set the bus speed. I had some fun with a couple of different UDMA100 drives last year. The first one I bought would not work on DMA33 (even with the 80 pin cable - that is another thing to get right but you probably know that although I mention it just in case). Exchanged it for a different make which worked fine. Digging around on manufacturers' web sites revealed the reason for this odd behaviour. The drive may be set to UDMA100 by default - in which case it is unlikely to work out of the box on DMA33. A DOS utility is used to configure it. Alternatively, a drive may be set to DMA33 at source and possibly not be running at optimum speed when used on a UDMA100 bus unless configured. HTH Syd

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> But how do I run the utility if the thing won't boot? I have to be able to do > that first ;-( Like the old 'needing to get a modem driver from the internet to get your modem working' problem.... Try a DOS boot floppy. I think there should be some 'free' DOS's out there. ( DR-DOS?) Or borrow a 'doze machine and make one. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Backup Strategies
by Keith Watson 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

When making significant changes to an existing system (e.g. kernel builds or major software changes), what backup* strategies do you adopt to protect yourself from knackering the whole thing? I know this will depend a lot on what hardware is available but is there a commonly accepted approach? At the moment I've got enough space on another HD to completely duplicate the whole partition (apart from a small /boot partition the whole of my system is in a single partition). I've been using PartitionMagic to do this but, as it's a Windows app, I'd like to use a GNU/Linux approach. Any ideas? * 1st time round I typed this as 'buckup', it occurred to me that all I needed to do was change the first consonant and it would be a better reflection of the entire process. Reminds me of way back when I was submitting batch COBOL compile jobs, the job output listings used to come back headed "System Complication Output". :o) Regards, Keith ____________ 'I can see nobody on the road.' said Alice. 'I only wish I had such eyes,' said the King 'to be able to see Nobody! And at that distance too!' Lewis Carroll

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Re: [Alug] Re: RE: windows management
by Ben Norcutt 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

As someone thats worked with these products I believe it's more than me saying thats how it was for me. These things are all setup the same so if I wasn't restricted from running setup.exe from cd then it wasn't restricted however I will conceed that the original statement is partially correct the RM windowbox systems which is their peer to peer network for primary schools does stop you running certain things like poledit.exe without phoning RM with a key to which they will give you a password. Ben >Ben Norcutt <ben(a)plextech.co.uk> wrote: > Yes not being able to run setup.exe from a cd was imagined. This certainly > wasn't the case with the connect 2.4 networks that I worked with anyway. >It's hard to give conclusive proof that anecdotes are >false, isn't it? All you can say is "that's not how it was for me" and that's >fine. Trying to claim that it didn't happen at all risks making you look foolish. >My Opinion Only. >MJR

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UDMA 100, etc.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

After my dodgy HD, I'm thinking of buying a new HD. My motherboard can only handle ata33, but I'm thinking if I invest in a new HD, I might as well get an ATA100 one and use it at the lower speed- I'll probably buy a new motherboard (&new CPU, etc) that can in a year or so anyway. Am I right in thinking that ATA100 hd's will work on a ata33 board? Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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kernel panic! Oh poo.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Today, as I booted my box, it said that the kernel was using the wrong compression format and halted. So I rebooted, and the dmesg came up with lots of: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Right at the end, we have: VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0) It booted, but some files just weren't there anymore. i.e. it had mount, but not umount. So I thought, bugger that, saved the dmesg, and rebooted. I was greeted with:- Kernel Panic! VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01 It suggested to run e2fsck, so I did using a tomsrtbt rescue floppy. Fine. It 'fixed' a LOT on hda1. Reboot, Kernel Panic! no init found... SoI'm figuring that it's pretty much destroyed the data on hda1. Or, as I like to mount it, / Bugger. So I guess it's reinstall time for me, that way, I guess, I could possibly save /home . Or do people think it may be a hardware problem? Oh poo. TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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