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Re[2]: [Alug]ADSL and security
by Edenyard 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

Barry Samuels wrote: > >> UKFSN is 27.50 per month, according to the leaflet I have here, so >> just beyond your price. > > Not necessarily. I don't have a fixed boundary but as I'm retired on a pension I > have > to watch the pennies a bit. I'll have a look at them. I think someone else may > have > mentioned them. > Sorry if I'm speaking out of turn, but I've an idea that someone here mentioned Metronet a long time ago. I think the point of that was that they offer a rebate for low usage - possibly it came down to £10 a month if you didn't want gigabytes of transfer per week. I'm fairly sure I looked at Metronet when it was mentioned, but as Martlesham doesn't seem to be on the map so far as all this whizbang technology goes, I lost interest quite quickly. Don't know whether this helps or not.... Gerald.

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[Alug]Ely: Let's do it again
by MJ Ray 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

This is very late, but at least it's here now. On 21 August, a small and hardy band of ALUGgers started a new chapter in the group's history with the first meeting in Ely. Daniel, Rob, MJR, Kirsty, Adam and Steven (or, if you prefer, Kinnison, rjek(?), slef, wildduck, quinophex and, erm, Steven) met up at the Cutter on Ely's waterside, chatted, scoped out the place, ate, drank and were merry, then walked up the hill to the Fountain, chatted, drank and were merry (who needs food?). Then I had to run back for a train so I'd be up in time for work the following morning (and maybe someone can tell me if I missed anything worth posting). I enjoyed it and (as predicted) preferred the Fountain to the Cutter for bber. So, I suggest we meet up again and maybe gather more adherants. When's good for others? Evening of the 17th or afternoon of the 20th? Can someone else try their luck at getting info on the old dispensory as a meeting venue for late-ish October, please? I'm told that it's in the hands of City of Ely Council http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/partners/parish/ely/elyhome.htm or, failing that, any other suitable venue nearby? -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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[Alug]Re: "From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September.
by Tim Sanders 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

I would certainly have come if I had not been already booked somewhere else. I hope it will happen again one day Tim

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[Alug]Chkrootkit says Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS: 600)
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

This has happened only since I changed inetd for xinetd and lsof -i :600 gives me: xinetd 16112 root 6u IPv4 318948149 UDP *:600 which I understand means that xinetd is using port 600. So why should chkrootkit think the port's infected? Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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RE: [Alug]ADSL and security
by Jonathan Dye 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Nick Heppleston wrote: > On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 14:34, Barry Samuels wrote: >> My local telephone exchange is becoming broadband enabled at the end >> of September and I am working on the assumption that I will be able >> to use it (BT's site says I MAY). > > I would give BT's broadband sales number a ring just to confirm that > your phone number can receive ADSL before you get excited. I > was in the > same position after I moved to my new house only to find that > I was more > than 5.5Km from the Norwich West exchange and therefore couldn't get > ADSL. I received the same answer from their 'online checker' - you > 'may' be able to receive it... I had the same situation and was told I couldn't recieve it but I've now got connected with the Extended Reach trial that BT are doing. Basically if you are just too far for ADSL then you may be able to get connected with the Extended Reach trial (using normal ADSL equipment). For ISPs that are participating in the trial have a look at http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=1175 JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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Re: [Alug]Browsing files on CD [lists@pelvoux.nildram.co.uk]
by Steve Fosdick 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

On 2003.09.03 13:21, Edenyard wrote: > I can start up Opera/Mozilla and open the front page without any > difficulty, but all links are unreachable. When I move the cursor > over a link, I find that its address is shown as (for example) > 'file:///fred/somepage.htm', whereas I would have expected it to be > '/mnt/cdrom/fred/somepage.htm'.... AFAIK, in windows there is a separate root directory for each disk so when windows tries to resolve a path which refers back to the root directory but doesn't specify a drive letter it will assume the current drive. So, for example, if your CD drive was E: /fred/somepage.htm would resolve to E:/fred/somepage.htm Of course, Unix-like OSes are different and have a single root directory so this doesn't work. You could work round this by creating symbolic links in the real root directory for each top-level directory on the CD. You could so this automatically like: cd /mnt/cdrom ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print "ln -s /mnt/cdrom/" $8 " /" $8;}' | sh When you've finished browsing the CD you can remove the links: cd /mnt/cdrom ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print "rm -f /" $8;}' | sh This is a little ugly but it's all I can think of ATM. HTH, Steve.

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RE: [Alug]External modem on laptop
by Jenny Hopkins 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Chris Glover wrote: >Doesn't the laptop have a PS/2 port for the rodent? I'll check this out at home - or I could get a USB mouse as there is one USB port. Daniel Silverstone wrote: > If you're *extremely lucky* you won't have fried your modem > or your parallel port. > > *very different power levels and pinouts there* > > If you need to use this serial modem, get a USB<->serial doobry Er, oops :-) I have very little luck with modems (ongoing sagas) so it may be fried. I did only have the one brief attempt. I'll try either a USB or PS2 mouse then to free the serial port, or see if I can easily get the usb-serial doobry. (Then I'll go and get another unfried modem......) Thanks all, Jen

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[Alug]Browsing files on CD
by Edenyard 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Please could someone shed some light on this: I received a CD-rom from the USA this morning, which contains a load of directories, in each of which is a selection of HTML files and related .JPG and .GIF images. There is also a front page .HTML file in the root directory and that file has links to all of the other pages scattered about the CD. I can start up Opera/Mozilla and open the front page without any difficulty, but all links are unreachable. When I move the cursor over a link, I find that its address is shown as (for example) 'file:///fred/somepage.htm', whereas I would have expected it to be '/mnt/cdrom/fred/somepage.htm'.... On the CD jewel case it says that the CD is for Doze and that 'other browsers may not work properly'. Is there a solution to this? It seems as though all the files are separately accessible - I can open any .HTM file manually in Opera, but the links don't work. Thanks for any help! Gerald.

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[Alug]Re: A message for justin fletcher
by Tarquin Mills 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

[Posted and mailed] Peter Naulls wrote: > Tarquin Mills <email address snipped by me> wrote: > > Paul Vigay wrote: > > > skok wrote: > > > > That does not say much, does it? Basicly, he has reasons for not > > > > updating his software, but he will not say what those reasons are... > > > So what? It's his software, and his reasons! End of story really! > > This a strange view for a free software advocate (JF) to take, as the > > one of the points of free software is that it is owned by everyone, i.e. > > the Creative Commons. > No, this is naive in the extreme. In particular, the software under > the GPL very much belongs to the copyright holder. Other licences have > variations on this. To quote the Anglia Linux User Group the free software movement is against copyright and the GPL is just an anti-copyright copyright (quinophex). One of the points of the GPL is that the source code is freely available and can be modified and redistributed. Justin Fletcher is not doing this with his software. BTW do not put my email address in usenet postings as this increases spamming. -- Tarquin Mills Norwich Spectrum and SAM Show (ORSAM 2003) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/speccyverse/orsam.htm

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[Alug]"From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September.
by Syd Hancock 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

At the last meeting it was suggested that we have the 'From Boot to Halt' talk at the next Norwich sunday meeting (2pm Sunday 28th September, Nelson Room, The Billy Bluelight, Hall road) MJR has offered to start it off: " I'm happy to give an overview/introduction talk (kernel startup, hand-off to init, types of init, runlevels, common tasks, that sort of thing) and present a poster on some aspect no-one else wants to do." It would be great if there are one or two other people who are willing to join in with information on other aspects of the boot process, especially anyone involved in development or doing any other "fun stuff with start-up and shutdown". An A3 or 2xA4 poster would be helpful too. Some useful and interesting topics would include ways to handle power management/UPS, particularly as more people move to using laptops. Something on APM/ACPI for example? Anyone who is interested, please respond either to the list or privately to either myself and/or Mark. In any event, the introductory talk on the boot process will take place at this meeting - further details and announcement to follow. Syd

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