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Re: Are there any Python and/or mail experts, here?
by Matthew 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

MJ Ray said: > Think what you like, but at least Dovecot seems to share the > requirement. As you note, basic maildir seems not to allow folders at > all. The Python class seems to be using Courier maildir. It wouldn't > be the first time mutt coped with stuff that doesn't follow specs. There's a common restriction on IMAP servers that a folder can contain subfolders or messages, but not both. Is that related? Certainly Dovecot doesn't use true subfolders: it fakes them by prefixing the folder name you asked for with its ancestors, dot-separated. Matthew

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RE: [ALUG] Digital Camera recommendations
by Richard Bensley 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

The Casio Exilim is very nice; 7 MP, SD cards, slim, USB etc The Sony Cybershot's always get good reviews too. I also recommend grabbing a copy of What Camera to have a look at their buyers guide, and their roundup reviews. Richard -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of samwise Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:21 PM To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] Digital Camera recommendations Anyone got any recommendations or hints / tips for buying a digital camera. Looking at a budget of £100 - £150, for general all-round use - preferably fairly compact. What should I look for when buying a camera for use with Linux? What are the main open source apps and what do they need the camera to support? Is one that connects as a USB mass storage good enough? or should I expect more integration than that with the right camera? Any recommended manufacturers which work best with open source software? Amazon link recommendations welcome! TIA, Peter. P.S. I'm running Debian Testing, if that makes a difference. _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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sshd messages in log, should I be worried?
by Chris G 11 Aug '07

11 Aug '07

I have suddenly started getting lots of messages like the following in my /var/log/messages:- Aug 5 06:59:01 home sshd[7886]: Connection from 193.128.168.195 port 63433 Aug 5 07:14:02 home sshd[7890]: Connection from 193.128.168.195 port 63995 Aug 5 07:29:01 home sshd[7893]: Connection from 193.128.168.195 port 64515 Aug 5 07:44:01 home sshd[2451]: Generating new 768 bit RSA key. Aug 5 07:44:01 home sshd[2451]: RSA key generation complete. Aug 5 07:44:02 home sshd[7897]: Connection from 193.128.168.195 port 65110 I can't see any other activity as a result, no attempted logins or odd processes running. Should I be worried? The IP address 193.128.168.195 seems to be unidentified. I get the occasional login attempt from other places but these are fairly obvious and my passwords are close to unguessable so they don't worry me too much. -- Chris Green

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Public WiFi Hotspots
by Matthew Holland 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

This is a little off topic, but since there are plenty of wireless users here and maybe some people with some regulatory/legislative sense, I thought I'd ask. (Out of interest, rather than current necessity, although a decent answer might give me a clue of whose counsel to seek should I ever need to know). What record-keeping responsibilities does a business running a WiFi hotspot for its customers have? They're effectively acting as an ISP, but if they're not keeping proper logs then 'customers' could perpetrate computer crime and be traceable only as far as the business's internet connection (for which they are responsible, of course). Matthew

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USB to serial converter, detected but not there - huh?
by Chris G 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

I am trying to get a USB to Serial converter working with my Slackware system. When I plug the converter into a USB port it works exactly as one would expect and hope, in /var/log/messages I see:- Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for generic Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for pl2303 Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: pl2303 3-2:1.0: pl2303 converter detected Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: usb 3-2: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: usbcore: registered new driver pl2303 Aug 6 15:34:16 home kernel: drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver if I unplug it and plug it back in I see:- Aug 6 15:53:18 home kernel: usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 2 Aug 6 15:53:18 home kernel: pl2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303 converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Aug 6 15:53:18 home kernel: pl2303 3-2:1.0: device disconnected Aug 6 15:53:41 home kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 Aug 6 15:53:41 home kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 6 15:53:41 home kernel: pl2303 3-2:1.0: pl2303 converter detected Aug 6 15:53:41 home kernel: usb 3-2: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 The only (?!) problem is that I don't actually get a /dev/ttyUSB0, so what's wrong and/or how can I diagnose it? -- Chris Green

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Re: /etc/default files
by Matthew Holland 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Sagr (>>) and Brett (>) said: >> ?????? Errrr... Does this mean that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who wants to use >> Apache will encounter the same problem as me???? > > No, just debian and ubuntu users. It's all a bit hit and miss. When I first started with Debian it tended to turn things on by default, and even now a lot of packages still seem to. While I can understand (and agree with) the logic of not dumping daemons onto a server and running them without configuring them, it's annoying how many packages seem to come without any configuration help. Even telling me which documentation to read first is better than nothing, but some don't even manage that. I should stop moaning and starting learning to maintain packages ;-) Matthew

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Re: Problem getting Apache/Firefox to display PHP webpages
by Matthew 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Simon wrote: > It may be because you appear to be trying to run the script from your > server's document root directory. If it works, then probably it's as well to carry on the way it is now, but if memory serves the normal PHP handler shouldn't need any of that. CGI scripts need execute permission to invoke their interpreters, but the PHP interpreter is invoked by Apache so PHP scripts need only be readable. Although there are security advantages to segregating them like CGI scripts, PHP files were intended to live in the document space with the static content. That said, I really don't know what was causing your problem before. As for getting it to start automatically, are you sure it isn't already? Try `netstat -at` after a fresh boot to see if something is listening on 'www'. If not, look for directories called /etc/rc{n}.d, for various {n} being the runlevels your system will do. These contain symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d and determine which services are started/killed when entering/leaving different runlevels. Either the installer didn't put the links in, or it made them for the wrong runlevel. You can probably use `who -r` to check your current runlevel (or `runlevel` as root). Use update-rc.d to make the links in the proper formats: check its man-page for options you might want. Hope that helps, Matthew

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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thursday Norwich Meet : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Jonathan McDowell 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is this Thursday, 9th August. It's at the Reindeer pub on the Dereham Road, just opposite the City Gate. People will be there from 8pm-ish, though there may be a few people there earlier. Topics for discussion will no doubt be as varied as ever. The Reindeer has a reasonable selection of beer as well as decent coffee (with biscuits, if you're lucky). Directions to the Reindeer can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html Pictures of some of the regulars, and irregulars, and, well, just some pictures of people that might or might not turn up are available from: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2007-05-ALUG/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2006-02-ALUG/ http://the.earth.li/~noodles/stilvoid-alug/mp20050811/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2005-01-ALUG-Xmas/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ Which should hopefully aid those of you wondering who to look out for - the most recent images are from the meet a few months back. We now have an area reserved for us, so should be easier to find. As you enter through the main door you'll see a small set of steps ahead of you - the area just up those steps and to the left is where we'll be. J. -- It's deja-vu all over again. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Weirdo gnome thing
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

Hi Folks, I just had a weird experience with Gnome. Context: I have 10 "workspaces" with, at present, respectively 3, 1, 0, 0, 5, 2, 1, 2, 5, 1 windows on them for various tasks. One of the 5 windows on workspace 5 is my mailer program, and the window on workspace 10 is my browser (firefox). In workspace 5, in the mailer, I middle-clicked on one of the mail messages in the list. The normal effect of this is to pop up a new window with the message in it. This it duly did -- but I was switched into workspace 10 with the message window on top of the browser window. After I'd dealt with that, I then found that every single window in every workspace had been shifted down by the same amount (about 15 pixels) and right by the same amount (about 2 pixels). This is weird! Anyone ever seen the like? Thanks, and best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 04-Aug-07 Time: 13:18:49 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Video Turtorial at next Ipswich meet
by Wayne Stallwood 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

Monday the 20th of August at The Milestone Beer House 8PM http://www.alug.org.uk/wiki/moin.cgi/Meetings As promised I will be hosting a beginners guide/introduction to video editing and production on Linux at the next Ipswich Meeting. The general lesson plan is to go through all the steps necessary to produce a DVD (with front menus) from some raw DV footage taken from a standard digital video camera. Most of the steps will also be relevant to creating video content for online services such as youtube. During the production of this DVD (using very short clips so that the lesson does not mostly comprise of watching progress bars) we will cover clipping and editing of footage, modification and dubbing of soundtracks, applying post-production effects, building DVD menus and producing the DVD itself. In addition to the film clip we will also be producing a slideshow from some digital photos. With additions to the DVD menu to allow the end user to select this from the front screen. If we get time I will also demonstrate a quicker way of making a DVD with just the slideshow, which is a useful way of distributing pictures to friends and family who do not have a computer but may have a DVD player. This as I said will be a beginners introduction, anybody that has spent any time with these tools will probably be at least as well informed as the instructor :) Hope to see some of you there Wayne

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