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New Web Host
by Laurie Brown 09 Mar '00

09 Mar '00

Folks, After many months of fruitless searching in the UK for a sensible (either) managed server or co-location deal for a box running Linux, we've given up, bitten the bullet and gone for a 2meg pipe of our own. We intend to offer domain hosting, web hosting using apache, email, php, MySQL, Perl, CGI etc. running on a SuSE 6.3 box for a basic price of a tenner-a-month. We want to use SuSE because a) we're familiar with it, and b) we want to do a trading partnership deal with SuSE. There are some complications, however! The principle one is lack of time on my part, and the fact that I'm out of the country. Another is that although we have a pretty good idea of what we need, and how to do it, some knowledgeable help would be appreciated. For instance, we will be going SCSI and RAID5 areas in which I have no experience on Linux. Lastly, this is a shoe-string start-up, and we can't afford to pay mega-bucks for an "expert". So, bottom-line: if an ALUG member near to Ipswich and willing to exchange some help and experience in exchange for beer and some free domain hosting or whatever is able to help, please shout. The kit will be here late next week, and it's a ground-up build. I have spare PCs to simulate dial-in, the DMZ and a network behind it for NAT and so on. I only have a short window to do this, as the pipe is scheduled to arrive at the main office in mid-April. Oh yeah, if anyone replies, please take this out of the list, to cut down the noise thereon. Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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MS Word with Linux
by Green J M K 08 Mar '00

08 Mar '00

Hi there, OK so I need to produce a lengthy report with screenshots and diagrams. I need to write it on Linux and produce the final product in Word for printing on an NT network. I'm wondering here how stable Word97 is running with WINE? StarOffice cannot get full compatibility even with straightforward text/styles I've found, so that's not a reliable option. Options anyone? James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG28?
by MJ Ray 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible? MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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What's your record for load average on a Linux box?
by Martyn Drake 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

Mine is 60.91 after the Frontpage extensions running on a Debian box went haywire. We have now mounted the dump of 'top' on our wall as a record of the momentous occasion. Make sure you monitor, shtml.exe on any machine running FP to ensure it doesn't go tits up. Ruddy Microsoft crud :( Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Mail Archive Update
by MJ Ray 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

Hypermail.pl is now handling most of the mail archives. I'll not bother converting the first few unless someone can think of a really good reason. I'll now be adding to them monthly, I think. They remain at http://www.mth.uea.ac.uk/~h089/alug/list/ while the main site is at http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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PC Answers Mandrake CD Cockup
by Justin Jonas 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

Has anybody heard anymore about this? They sent me a letter shortly after Christmas saying they were going to replace the cd but since then nothing Justin Jonas

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[ALUG-DIGEST] Sun Mar 5 23:59:02 2000
by alug-digest＠stu.uea.ac.uk 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily those of UEA or UUEAS. 3 messages in this digest: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... [alug] Dial up dilema... === MESSAGE 1 === Subject: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:17:08 +0000 (GMT) On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Dermot Musgrove wrote: > Stu wrote: > > > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > > Cheers Stu > > > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > > same error is coming up:- > > > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > AFAIR this happens because you have a line in /etc/ppp/options with 'lock' > > kppp does its own locking, it used to be OK to have an empty options file. chmod uog+rwx /dev/modem does the trick here. -- James Green Site Manager james(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC === MESSAGE 2 === Subject: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: Darrell Scott <scottie(a)linux.ca> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:46:55 -0400 On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, Stu wrote: > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > > The debug file reports the folowing:- > > "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself > but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let > it use an IP address." Sounds like an authentication problem to me... maybe you're using the wrong userid/password combination? Capitalization? Maybe you're using PAP instead of CHAP, or vice-versa. It might be a good idea to try connecting to another account you have the username and password for - both on the same ISP and another ISP, if possible. That way you can isolate the problem. I've had trouble connecting to NT servers in the past; I had to recompile pppd for MS-CHAP authentication (all the instructions are with the source code). I don't think this is the error message that I got though. > I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I This would remain consistent with an authentication problem. If you're manually editing stuff, edit /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and/or /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. Check out ISP-Hookup-HOWTO and PPP-HOWTO for more info. Good Luck! Darrell (A former East-Anglian living in Canada!) -- scottie(a)linux.ca === MESSAGE 3 === Subject: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: bsamuels(a)datamansys.co.uk Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:20:37 GMT ** Reply to note from "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:44:20 -0000 Stu > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > Cheers Stu > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > > The debug file reports the folowing:- > > "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself > but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let > it use an IP address." I believe that the remote host should not be required to authenticate itself! from ppp options: # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network # packets to be sent or received. auth If you have the above in your ppp options file try kppp after changing the 'auth' line to 'noauth'. > I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I > also used the terminal button in the modem device setup and called the > speaking clock so I know the modem works. > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] Best wishes Barry Samuels

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Dial up dilema...
by bsamuels＠datamansys.co.uk 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

** Reply to note from "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:44:20 -0000 Stu > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > Cheers Stu > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" > > The debug file reports the folowing:- > > "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself > but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let > it use an IP address." I believe that the remote host should not be required to authenticate itself! from ppp options: # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network # packets to be sent or received. auth If you have the above in your ppp options file try kppp after changing the 'auth' line to 'noauth'. > I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I > also used the terminal button in the modem device setup and called the > speaking clock so I know the modem works. > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] Best wishes Barry Samuels [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[ALUG-DIGEST] Sat Mar 4 23:59:03 2000
by alug-digest＠stu.uea.ac.uk 04 Mar '00

04 Mar '00

This is a digest of the list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk The views expressed are those of the author, not necessarily those of UEA or UUEAS. 3 messages in this digest: Dial up dilema... Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... Re: [alug] PHP complile probs === MESSAGE 1 === Subject: Dial up dilema... From: "Stu" <stu(a)mgstu.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:44:20 -0000 Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? Cheers Stu hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the same error is coming up:- "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" The debug file reports the folowing:- "localhost pppd[625] The remote system is required to authenticate itself but localhost pppd [625] counldnt find any secret (password) which would let it use an IP address." I have tried a manual login script as well and the same error occurs. I also used the terminal button in the modem device setup and called the speaking clock so I know the modem works. === MESSAGE 2 === Subject: Re: [alug] Dial up dilema... From: Dermot Musgrove <dermot(a)glade.perl.connectfree.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:52:30 +0000 Stu wrote: > > Got this from a friend can any one suggest a good place to look....??? > Cheers Stu > > hiya, and thanks for helping out I really appreciate it. I have tried > millions of combinations now for all the kppp settings in kde and still the > same error is coming up:- > > "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly" AFAIR this happens because you have a line in /etc/ppp/options with 'lock' kppp does its own locking, it used to be OK to have an empty options file. Regards, Dermot === MESSAGE 3 === Subject: Re: [alug] PHP complile probs From: "Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD" <ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:28:44 +0000 At 10:28 03/03/00 +0000, you wrote: > >I've just seen this: >http://www.PenguinMagazine.com/Magazine/This_Issue/0010 >which takes you through the Apache/PHP/MySQL install process. Good timing >that :-) > >James. > Thank-you, using the above it now works and I can now start to learn php/mysql. I'm still playing around with compiling php from source and found the argument to compile it as an apache module to be (on my Redhat 6.0 machine): ./configure --with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs ... And i've just now got the php source code to compile correctly (with mysql, dbase, etc) database support and it's working with Apache. Yippee! Thanks again for your help. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Email: ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com Web: http://www.ydu09.dial.pipex.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness"

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OT: BT, ADSL, Cable Modems
by Green J M K 03 Mar '00

03 Mar '00

Refs: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000303-000009.html http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2000/8/ns-13811.html Number one BT has decided yet again to delay ADSL citing lack of demand causing insufficient testing. That's tech-speak for "we're gonna lose revenue here". Number two both Telewest and NTL are rolling our Cable modems over the next few months. Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to the differences between cable and adsl (other than the tv and telephony services cable also provides)? I might add that I signed up to BTInternet Wednesday upon their announcement of the free evening calls. Other than their dialup boxes going dead early Wed evening, I've not seen any problems yet. Sure, it's slower than Demon, but still acceptable (4k/sec web, 4-7/8k/sec news). I've not set mail up yet. I have had one or two disconnections, but nothing appalling. If only BT would allow full unmetered access *sigh*. s/BT: It's Good to Talk/BT: Taking the Piss/g James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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