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VPN question, or how to get a single WiFi device to seem to be in the UK
by Chris Green 29 Jan '20

29 Jan '20

I have a Kobo eReader which connects to a local network by WiFi. It uses the connection to download books (surprise) and also to do other things with my library on-line account. All very well when I'm in the UK but for (stupid?) reasons known only to themselves the Kobo/Overdrive/Library software and connections work only when the Kobo is connected to a UK IP address. So, when I'm trotting around the world, or more likely when I'm sitting in my little boat in France, I can't get the Kobo to update even though I have books available at the library. What makes it even sillier is that I *can* read the books on my laptop, even when connected from France, so it's not an issue about "you can't read that book in France" it's just a quirk of the eReader software. Anyway, down to the question, what's the simplest way to get a connection to the eReader such that the library/Overdrive software will think it's in the UK? I can see that it *could* be done with two VPN aware routers, one in the UK (I have Drayteks at home which can do VPN) and one here on the boat. However that does seem a rather heavyweight solution just to connect a single WiFi device. (and I don't have a VPN capable router here at the moment though in the longer term I could bring one out) Is there any other way of doing it (VPN or not, ssh maybe)? I already use an ssh proxy occasionally to allow my laptop to seem to be in the UK so I can connect to my NHS Doctor site (silly restriction again!). However I can't do this (so easily) with the eReader because it's basically a 'closed' system with just the eReader software in it. Any bright ideas anyone? -- Chris Green

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Mint Cinnamon
by Phil Thane 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

Hello Is anyone else using Linux Mint 19.3 with Cinnamon desktop? I've found a bug I think. I'm in the habit of hitting [Alt][F2] to bring up a simple CLI application starter. On previous desktops (and Mint 19.2 I think) there's an autocomplete function and if you mistype you get an error message. On the current version bringing up the app starter greys out the rest of the screen and if you type correctly the full name and hit [Enter] it works OK. There's no autocomplete though and if you mistype and hit [Enter] then the dialog box freezes, the screen stays mostly grey and the panel stops working. The only way out as far as I can see is to logout or reboot. Fortunately the keyboard/mouse still work so you can bring up the menu with the 'winkey' and log out from there. I've tried PS UX in a terminal to try to find the process and kill it but there's nothing obvious there. I've tried Googling* without success. Any suggestions? Worth signing up to the Mint forums? PINEBOOK PRO UPDATE It's working fine, since updates Firefox is more stable so I've set that as default instead of Chromium. There's a dearth of browser plugins, I guess they have to be recompiled for ARM. I use ad blockers and tracker blockers normally plus 'copy plain text' but none of them are available. You Tube plays fine, sound is as you'd expect from tiny built-in speakers, OK for speech, terrible for music. I have a slightly odd use-case in that I have a canal/river cruiser and take long trips in the summer. Last year I installed a 12V radio/amp in the boat and ran my old laptop audio through that, I plan to do the same with the Pinebook Pro but haven't tried it yet. Unlike some trendier devices it still has a conventional 3mm audio-out socket. Libre Office and Gimp work OK except none of the GEGL operations seem to work in GIMP. They are a bit half-assed in the AMD64 version anyway so until it becomes mainstream you're not missing much. New themes are a bit of a lottery but the default appearance isn't bad and I've tweaked it a bit. The trackpad is much better since the firmware upgrade but I'd still like a wider target area on the window corners/edges to resize things. Mind you that's an issue on my Mint desktop too. Dodgy old eyesight and shaky hands probably don't help. Just read a review of a new KDE laptop. Higher spec than PinebookPro (Intel i7) but literally 10x the price. * Not Google I use Start Page but Googling seems to have become a verb. -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Advice please
by Michael Goddard 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

I use Mint Cinnamon 19.3 and whilst trying to use kernel update, I caused the following msg. "You have 3 broken packages on your system. Use the 'Broken' filter to locate them." Somewhat beyond my limited Linux experience. Any advice on next step, or should I just ignore this kernel update, would be much appreciated. Tia Michael

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Pinebook Pro
by Phil Thane 17 Jan '20

17 Jan '20

Hello Lugs, Xmas present to self was a PinebookPro <https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/> Mostly I'm pleased with it but found two problems with no solutions on Pine forums (perils of being an early adopter). 1. This is an issue on my Mint Desktop too, and my wife's KDE Neon. Is there a way to make window borders wider? Or if not visually larger then make the target area bigger? When trying to manually resize a window I find it very hard with mouse or trackpad to hit the edge/corner to click and drag. Slim borders look great but don't work well (for me). 2. Specifically Pine but shows how much I don't understand... We have a laser printer connected by USB to my wife's PC (as she prints most) but 'shared' so I can print via ethernet from my desktop. My Mint PC found the share and set it up easily. The PinebookPro also finds it, but set up doesn't work. First, there's no Printer utility so I installed CUPS via Synaptic, then accessed it via localhost:631 in Chromium. Doesn't work so tried re-launching Chromium as root from terminal. That gets me into CUPS OK. It detects the shared printer OK but doesn't list the maker (Samsung). I guess that's because Samsung haven't released an ARM driver. I've never really understood why you need a locally installed driver anyway to use a printer installed on another PC (does anyone?) CUPS has an alternative for unlisted printers though, install a PPD file. So I downloaded it from Samsung and installed it. All the set up seems to go OK after that but trying to print just throws an error 'Unable to locate printer' which is weird because the setup DID locate it. Some interesting extras to this. Our router has a USB port that can be used with either NAS or shared printers. I tried that in the past and couldn't make it work at all. Someone suggested that the printer might request firmware from the PC and maybe the router doesn't understand the request. Whatever that's no help. The printer has an ethernet socket so could be a network printer, but the router has only 4 sockets and they are all occupied (server, smart TV, 2 desktops). Short of buying a switch that's out too. The printer also has WiFi which the network setting widget on the Pinebook finds automatically. It asks for a password which Samsung don't supply, they tell you to use the (Windows/OSX) set up CD! Any suggestions? It'd be nice to print, but not essential I can always print to file and email it to myself! -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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A mostly 'just thinking aloud' question about web security etc.
by Chris Green 12 Jan '20

12 Jan '20

I have been looking at making some web pages of mine *slightly* more private recently. There's nothing seriously important on them, just some addresses (that people could find elsewhere easily enough) and some other similar sorts of bits and pieces. However, while I was doing this, I wondered about the "passwords are in clear when using HTTP" thing. If I go to my web site 'out there' and type in a password who/what/where/how will it be seen? Yes, I realise if someone has wireshark running on my LAN they will be able to see it (but my house is reasonably secure!) and, presumably, anyone monitoring packets whizzing around between me and the remote site would be able to see it. However there's a *lot* of packets flying around out there, how would anyone pick out any relevant bits? The remote end is 'mine' too in that it's a virtual server in France (Gandi Internet) so that is moderately secure too with no general access. Obviously anyone with access to the systems at either end of this transaction could see what's going on but then if they have that sort of access getting at a web page password is not going to get them any more access than they have already. This isn't bank access or accessing a big business/selling web site where snoopers might expect to get useful/valuable information so why (and how) would any sort of snooping work? What does the team think? Am I being too un-paranoid? (N.B. the passwords I use for moderately [in]secure web sites bear no relation to the ones I use for secure stuff) -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 9th January
by Viperfang 06 Jan '20

06 Jan '20

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 9th January at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 12th December
by Viperfang 09 Dec '19

09 Dec '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 12th December at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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(G)Rsync
by Phil Thane 07 Dec '19

07 Dec '19

Hello Lugs, I've recently re-installed everything on my home server and now can't connect with Grsync* from my wife's (18.x Mint KDE) PC. Mine (Mint 19.1 Cinnamon) works fine with essentially the same command (different source and destinations). On mine a dialog box pops up asking for the password for the destination. On hers it doesn't it just fails and the error message says it can't make a directory (which it can't without the password). So how do I make it ask for a password? She is a 'user' on the destination device and I did chmod 0777 on her /home/username/Backup directory so it should be available. *GUI for Rsync. Typing it all out by hand doesn't work either. -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Warning: the ECDSA host key for '...' differs from the key for the IP address '...'
by Mark Rogers 06 Dec '19

06 Dec '19

I have just received: Warning: the ECDSA host key for '...' differs from the key for the IP address '...' .. when trying to SSH to a web server I manage. I expect these kind of warnings if I've changed IPs, or reinstalled SSH, or reinstalled the OS, but I'm not aware of having done anything that could provoke this warning. Googling just gives me endless ways to fix the problem by removing the cached key, but I'm finding precious little advice on what to do if the warning has no obvious cause. Suggestions? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 6th December.
by Viperfang 03 Dec '19

03 Dec '19

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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rsync
by Phil Thane 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

I'm sure this is trivial but I don't know where to look... My wife's PC uses Grsync (gui for rsync) to backup to my server. I've recently put a new HDD in the server and re-installed everything, including a new SSL cert via Certbot. Now her Grsync refuses to connect because the certificate has changed. I guess sudo apt purge grsync then re-install it would do it but is there a more elegant method? Some config file I can edit or delete? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Question about PCIExpress slots and SSDs
by Chris Green 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

I have a Fujitsu Esprimo P910 system to which I am thinking of adding a bigger SSD. It already has a 128Gb SSD for the OS but that is just an 'ordinary' 2.5" SATA one that I simply connected to a SATA interface and thus it runs at maximum 600MB/s. The motherboard has unused PCIExpress slots as follows:- PCI-Express 3.0 x16 1 x (312 mm / 12.29 inch) Full height PCI-Express 2.0 x4 (mech. x16) 1 x (312 mm / 12.29 inch) Full height PCI-Express x1 1 x (312 mm / 12.29 inch) Full height PCI (32-bit / 33 MHz) 1 x (170 mm / 6.7 inch) Full height Now I know I need an adapter to plug a 'PCIExpress' NVME SSD into one of these slots but they're not all that expensive, e.g.:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adwits-Express-PCIe-based-Adapter-Factor-PCIe-x16-… So, if I get something like the above (alternative recommendations welcome) will I be able to get a fast[er] NVMe SSD and have it "just work" or are there BIOS and OS ramifications? I'm currently running xubuntu 19.04 with a 5.0.0 kernel. -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 14th November
by Viperfang 11 Nov '19

11 Nov '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th November at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Looking for new[ish] desktop machine as my main machine
by Chris Green 10 Nov '19

10 Nov '19

I'm thinking that I ought to replace my current desktop machine with something a bit faster and (maybe) less power consuming. My current desktop is a Fujitsu Esprimo P910 with a small (128Gb) SSD and several spinning hard disks. This machine stays on all the time as it's my mail server that I ssh into to read my mail whci it receives using SMTP. So I'd like to get something at least as economical (power wise), the P910 which idles at about 22 to 24 watts So requirements for new machine are:- Idle power consumption less than 20 watts or so I5 to I7 sort of performance, 6th/7th generation? Larger SSD, e.g. 512Mb, though 240Gb would probably be enough. Prefer wholly Intel hardware/chipset, especially the graphics, to be sure it works well for Linux. Space for several hard disk drives, so a laptop isn't going to work, and anyway I want a big screen (currently 24"). Any ideas and suggestions? -- Chris Green

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Hibernate Thinkpad
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 09 Nov '19

09 Nov '19

Howdy I brought a 2nd hand Thinkpad T430 & I've tweaked it so that Hibernate appears on the shutdown menu. In a command prompt, the command sudo pm-hibernate writes to disk and shuts down. Switching on brings the machine back to the state it was in on shutdown. Launching Hibernate from the startup menu, or from a command prompt typing sudo systemctl hibernate both write to the disk and shutdown, but on boot up, they start a fresh session, as if starting up from scratch. Anyone got any ideas how to successfully hibernate from the shutdown menu? Steve

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Re: [ALUG] Amateur Web Admin needs help!
by Chris Green 30 Oct '19

30 Oct '19

> Oct 27 19:38:45 webserver systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP > Server... > Oct 27 19:38:45 webserver apachectl[9629]: apache2: Syntax error on > line 225 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Sy This is the error that's preventing Apache from running, on "line 225 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf", it looks as if you have truncated the full error message (unless that was me). Anyway, show us that line (and a few lines aroun d it for context) and I'm sure someone will be able to tell you what's wrong. There may be more/better information about the apache configuration error in the apache error log at /var/log/apache/error.log. (copied to Alug, please reply to there so everyone can see/help) -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Amateur Web Admin needs help!
by Chris Green 30 Oct '19

30 Oct '19

> Oct 27 19:38:45 webserver systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP > Server... > Oct 27 19:38:45 webserver apachectl[9629]: apache2: Syntax error on > line 225 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Sy This is the error that's preventing Apache from running, on "line 225 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf", it looks as if you have truncated the full error message (unless that was me). Anyway, show us that line (and a few lines aroun d it for context) and I'm sure someone will be able to tell you what's wrong. There may be more/better information about the apache configuration error in the apache error log at /var/log/apache/error.log. (copied to Alug, please reply to there so everyone can see/help) -- Chris Green

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Amateur Web Admin needs help!
by Phil Thane 27 Oct '19

27 Oct '19

Hi, I have an old PC out in the shed running (L)Ubuntu that I use as a Nextcloud server (also Cherry Music and wife's backup, but it's Nextcloud that is vexing me). A few days ago my phone flashed a 'can't connect' warning from the calendar sync, so obviously I ignored it for a while. Then I tried connecting from my desktop Nextcloud client, and that failed too. I did some basic diagnostics and found: 1. Nextcloud is running, I can log in fine from the desktop using the LAN IP address of the server. 2. I use DDNS to route WAN connections and that's working fine because when I try to use Firefox to access the server I get a 401 error from Nginx. (What I should get is a Nextcloud login screen). 3. That's odd because as far as I was aware the server ran Apache. 4. Issuing status commands to Apache or Nginx doesn't get me anywhere. 5. sudo apt install apache2 reveals that I already have the latest. 6. sudo apt install nginx gives me a list of packages to install (I didn't) so I assume that means I was right about having Apache not Nginx. But that doesn't explain the Nginx 401. 7. sudo ps ux doesn't show Apache running. 8. Trying to start Apache doesn't work: phil@webserver:/$ sudo service apache2 start Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. That would be fine if I had any clue where to look for those log files. And was likely to understand what they say. So what I need (I think) is an idiot's guide to getting Apache running again that's easier than re-installing everything from scratch. Can anyone help? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Where have all the files gone?
by Bev Nicolson 08 Oct '19

08 Oct '19

I use Mint and having upgraded a small file yesterday (of course I recall what, d'oh) I have lost some files and folders on my desktop, though the right boxes are checked to show them. They haven't reappeared so far. How do I get them back? I'm not sure how to find out exactly which version of Mint I'm using. Tessa, certainly. Bev.

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Seedbox vs VPS for linux VPS usage.
by John Cohen 08 Oct '19

08 Oct '19

I have a home server that's now a few years old, used for a mix of large file backups (16tb raid10), file serving and sharing (nextcloud/sftp) and a few other less important applications for personal use like rss reader, music streaming etc. I'm thinking of decommissioning it soon and moving most of its use to the cloud. Unfortunately cloud storage is still very expensive when handling audio/video files so I'm planning on creating backups locally and leaving the cloud storage (around 1-2tb) for mainly file sharing as well as my other various applications. I've already got 2 vps with digitalocean and am pretty happy with them, except for the storage price (astronomical if I wanted to add 1000GB storage to the droplets), so I've been hunting around for reliable and affordable servers that are also secure. This got me to looking at 'dedicated' seedboxes as an alternative to regular VPS. The prices for storage are staggeringly smaller. When including full root access, these start to sound very much like a traditional VPS, so I'm now wondering: 1) What's the real difference if most VPS machines out there are not truly dedicated machines- (really virtualised) but have everything you'd expect from root-access to dedicated ip address, ram and cpu usage, the same as a good seedbox? (example here of a seedbox with root access and 'machine' specs: https://www.rapidseedbox.com/#pricing) 2) Are there any inherent security downsides with a seedbox vs a traditional vps? My initial feelings are it's the same, as long as you personally secure the server thoroughly and the level of control (say root access, firewall, other typical linux security tweaks, file encryption done by myself on the server etc) 3) Seedboxes are mainly meant for fast torrenting (something I'm not interested in). So long-term reliability probably isn't their main concern when running the business, comparing it to a company offering VPS renting. Is this a fair assessment? Do seedboxes tend to be available in the long term, or is it more likely to cause me problems a couple of years along the line? (I'd obviously look for a company that's been out there for a while, but is it likely the servers reliability is not as good?) 4) Any thoughts of what else I could look into? Ideally in the 1-5tb storage range, but possibly less than £20 p/m. John

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 10th October
by Viperfang 07 Oct '19

07 Oct '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 10th October at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Securing a laptop
by peter.northerly＠gmail.com 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

Be grateful for any ideas about this. I'm responsible for the laptop of a not very technical person. The laptop has all kinds of sensitive personal information on it, and the owner travels around the UK, it gets left in a suitcase in the luggage shelves at the entrance to train carriages, gets carried around in a luggage trolley on the underground and buses. So I have tried to find some way of securing it that is not too onerous. What I came up with is to have an encrypted partition, and to have the really critical files on an encrypted usb stick that is carried separately. Its running Linux Mint. There are shortcuts to the usb files on the desktop, but of course they only work when the usb stick is inserted and mounted. This works, and I think its pretty secure, but it does involve the user in keying in long secure passwords several times. So recently I came on instructions in anonguide. These are meant for installing whonix. But the first part of them seems to be adaptable to my case. What you basically do is install Debian on an encrypted hard drive, putting the /boot folder on a USB stick. You set it up with a passphrase, and then after the installation is complete, you make an encrypted keyfile, move it to the stick, and delete the passphrase. The idea is that the machine will only boot using the stick (I suppose you clone it, to be safe) and will use the very long and secure keyfile to decrypt. I am not clear why you need to create a passphrase at all if its going to be deleted. And another oddity is that there seems to be only a root and swap partition. I am of course used to having a separate /home partition like everyone. But I can find my way through these things. The rest of the long anonguide manual goes on to talk about installing whonix and tor which isn't part of my problem. My user is not bothered about anonymity, just wants not to have to worry about having a machine stolen which is fairly readily accessible with all kinds of personal info on it. The potentially nice thing about this method is that you just insert the stick and boot and log in. No more messing with repeatedly typing in long and hard to remember passphrases. What do you all think about it? Have you tried this? And how do you secure laptops? Al

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 4th October.
by Viperfang 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Any ideas how to provide a WiFi connection that goes via a proxy?
by Chris Green 30 Sep '19

30 Sep '19

I'll try and explain what I need. I want to connect a WiFi device (a Kobo eReader) via a proxy server so that it will appear to be in the UK even when I'm on my boat in France. This is because downloads of books from the library will only work when the Kobo eReader is in the UK. I'm not trying to cheat or anything, I just want to be able to check out new library books to read when I'm away from home. The Kobo only has WiFi, no wired connection, so it needs some sort of WiFi source to connect to which will (presumably) in turn be connected to a UK based proxy server. I can provide the proxy server myself, I often do this for browser connections to order my repeat prescriptions (for some reason my doctor's web site won't allow connections from outside the UK). So, I guess, I need something like a wireless router which can be set up to route *all* WiFi clients via my UK proxy. Or am I barking up the wrong tree? (I don't really know what ports/protocols the Kobo uses though I suppose I could find out) Any/all ideas welcome. -- Chris Green

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JOB | Front End Developer (London)
by James Tobin 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Hello, I'm working with an employer that is looking to hire a permanent front end architect for their London office. Consequently, I had hoped that some members of this group may like to discuss further. I can be reached using "JamesBTobin (at) Gmail (dot) Com". Kind regards, James

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Laptops for Linux
by Mark Rogers 13 Sep '19

13 Sep '19

Before Christmas I bought myself a new Lenovo laptop thinking I'd get Ubuntu running on it fine, but no; graphics issues, touchpad issues, etc and it's been running Windows 10 ever since. So as not to make the same mistake again, on a budget of about £450 what is a good laptop for Linux? Happy to look at 2nd-hand or refurbs, Must haves: It's for my wife so it needs a numeric keypad (she's a bookkeeper). A side effect of that means 15"+. Needs to run virtual machines (Sage only runs on Windows...). Weight is a factor, I think certainly <2kg. It'll end up with SSD either because it came with one or I installed it (happy either way, probably prefer to install it myself). Decent RAM - I'd have thought 16GB (or at least the scope to increase it later). Can claim the VAT back so budget is higher with a VAT invoice than without. Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Basic image manipulation
by Mark Rogers 09 Sep '19

09 Sep '19

Probably 90% of my image work is taking an image (maybe a screenshot or photo), making some very basic changes like rotate, crop, scale (usually to reduce filesize), and saving it. I seem to have a collection of tools which view only (like EoG) but load instantly on minimal resources, and sophisticated apps like GIMP which will do anything I might ever need but more slowly. What's a good app for every-day image stuff like this? I'd accept - and even quite like - a few extra bells, like highlighting/blurring/annotating, as long as it doesn't become cumbersome to use or slow to load. <rant>Bonus for something which doesn't give me a single "rotate 90deg" option; why does eveyone expect me to do three rotates instead of one?</rant> -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 12th September
by Viperfang 09 Sep '19

09 Sep '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 12th September at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Hardware upgrade?
by Phil Thane 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Hello folks, Looking for hardware advice. My desktop PC hasn't had a hardware upgrade for about 5 years when I bought a MoBo bundle and a secondhand graphics card. It's an AMD Quad core CPU running at 3200MHz with 2G of RAM and Nvidea GE Force 8400. For the most part it's OK, I don't do video editing or gaming so it doesn't work too hard. The graphics card has always been an issue though, it refuses to run 64bit Linux distros. I've tried several in the past, Debian-based and others, and always get the same result, installs OK but on boot just gives a black screen. Annoyingly it will run 64bit distros from DVD so you think it's going to be OK after an install, but it isn't. It hasn't been too much of an issue running 32bit versions until recently but it seems they are being phased out. I'd like to try KDE Neon for example, but there is no 32bit version. So: Any recommendations for a cheapish graphics card that will work? Is it worth getting 4GB or more RAM? -- Phil

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Simple multi-line string manipulation from bash
by Mark Rogers 04 Aug '19

04 Aug '19

I have a simple bash script for locating Raspberry Pis on the network: #!/bin/bash PIMAC=B8:27:EB sudo nmap -sP 192.168.251.0/24 | grep -i " $PIMAC" -A0 -B2 Whilst the output gives me the answer I want I'd like to tidy up the formatting. The current result is: Nmap scan report for 192.168.10.20 Host is up (-0.10s latency). MAC Address: B8:27:EB:22:1C:05 (Raspberry Pi Foundation) -- Nmap scan report for 192.168.10.24 Host is up (-0.10s latency). MAC Address: B8:27:EB:22:1C:05 (Raspberry Pi Foundation) What I want out of it is something more like: MAC Address: B8:27:EB:22:1C:05 (Raspberry Pi Foundation) IP Address: 192.168.10.20 IP Address: 192.168.10.24 What is the best way to do this? Or should I just ditch the bash script for a Python script? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Re: [ALUG] Getting package name from file path, offline
by Mark Rogers 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 00:43, <steve-ALUG(a)hst.me.uk> wrote: > > I don't think it helps the current situation, but I think most people doing something like this > would host a git repository to store their scripts & track changes to them. The same idea > can be used to cope with changes to configurations for files in /etc/. I'd think it would be > easier to keep a manual list of top level packages added/removed using apt-get, than to > try and work it out backwards from a file list. I've never found a good way to treat an entire OS as a repository (or just the customisations, given that they can be anywhere in the system). I do maintain a list of changed files which I use to create tar based backups (different files from the subject of this thread), as well as an init script listing all the packages I need installing, but inevitably I sometimes forget to add something to my list. (It would be nice to think that a development workflow is "I need this, so add it to my list and install it". But reality is more like "I wonder if this will work, I'll install it and try" or "Let's install several options and see which works out best". With the best will in the world, being at least able to validate the list afterwards is useful.) > [...] > "apt doesn't remember which reverse dependency caused it to install rsync, but it does log all its actions in /var/log/apt, so you might find the dependency there: > [...] > That may help a bit, but it depends on what period the log-rotated apt log files you have. /var/log/apt/history.log is useful but isn't exhaustive because of the reason you elude to. I have certainly made us of it in the past though. A bigger problem for me here though is that /var/log is excluded from my tarball backups... Regarding dependencies: I would be nice to know why I installed a package, but for now just merging 400+ file differences into one package install is a big step forward. The example I gave some way back was netpbm - I never installed it directly, it turns out that it was because I installed a screenshot package, but given that any report will also list the screenshot package I can likely work that out later. > It seems to me it would be easier to work out using apt/aptitude etc on a live system - (see the search I mentioned earlier - lots and lots of lovely links, methods etc) > It seems to me it would also be easier to keep a manual list of top-level changes. Easier, sure, but where's the fun in that! But actually: By "easier", what this means is restoring a multi-GB backup to an SD card, booting a Pi from it, running some commands to get the package list etc, copying the result back to my desktop, then repeating the entire process with the second backup, before I can diff anything. So easier, but not quicker :-) PS: Perhaps inevitably most of my reply is "yes, but that won't work because..." which obscures the genuinely useful information you gave me, a lot of it new to me. Thank you very much for that, it helps more than the above reply might suggest. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Getting package name from file path, offline
by Mark Rogers 08 Jul '19

08 Jul '19

If I have a list of filenames (with paths), what's the best way to work out what package most likely provided them? This will be offline, so I can't use dpkg -S etc. The original O/S is Raspbian if that helps. (Background: I'm trying to look at SD card backups and work out what packages were installed without booting them.) -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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UPS
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

Can anyone recomend a linux friendly UPS for a home server. Pref not too expensive working with apcupsd. Same sort of load as a desktop pc, monitor & printer. Currently have a smartups 700 running at 13% load. Ta Steve

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Linux Laptop
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

My laptop is vexing me muchly. I think it's time for a new one, possibly brand-spanking new. It doesn't have to have a large screen. I'm currently using only about 50GB disk space of a 500GB disk, so any disk size probably, but probably would want at least 256GB. Ram, I'm struggling with 2GB ( a lot of paging to disk). I'm guessing about 8? I have lots of browser windows open. Running some flavour of xubuntu or lubutu, or perhaps mint. No idea what sort of processor I'd need. Like some sort of optical drive & fair battery life. Extra bonus feature: I hate touchpads, so if it had a mouse "nipple" I'd be made up!! So folks.... What's good? ISTR that Thinkpads were good. Are Dells good with preinstalled ubuntu at the moment? Any recommended suppliers or hardware or any other comments? Thanks in anticipation! Steve

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firewall hardware recommendations
by mick 03 Jul '19

03 Jul '19

This is (slightly) off topic because I am after advice for hardware to run pfsense/opnsense router/firewall software (which is BSD based, not linux) but I hope you will forgive me. I have been running openvpn on a SOHO router for a while now (so that all my internet traffic goes over a VPN tunnel to one of several VMs I have dotted about). That has worked fine and I saw little in the way of speed degradation over my ADSL line (I got around 8-10 Megabits/s over the tunnel when my ADSL speed was around 11-12), But I have recently upgraded my broadband to FTTC and get around 30 Megabits/s over the WAN. However, my openvpn tunnel speed has stayed at the 8-10 mark. Not good. At first I thought that the problem lay with openvpn itself, but of course I then twigged that my router was probably the culprit because it can't hanndle the encryption load. Sure enough, testing connections to my VPN endpoints whilst running openvpn directly from my i7 desktop showed that I could get the full 30 Meg. So I now need to ditch the router and get something a bit beefier. I would also like to run another firewall between my two internal Lans - hence the interest in opnsense or pfsense (though additionally I am open to recommendations for alternative F/W software so long as it includes openvpn capability). I could simply re-purpose an old desktop (I have a couple lying around, including an old i5 with 8 gig of RAM) but that strikes ma as too much of a power hog when something much smalller would probably do. So - does anyone out there have any recommendations? The CPU must have AES-NI to help with the crypto load (that is probably what is killing my current router setup), but I don't need much in the way of storage so some small fanless device would probably do fine. Cheers Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 https://baldric.net/about-trivia ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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T-O-T!
by Ted Harding 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

Totally-Off-Topic! But you are the one bunch I know likely to be amply knowledgeable regarding what I want to find out. This is to do with wgat happens when the time comes (if it comes) to replace the battery of a mobile phone. The discharge/recharge cycle with rechargeable batteries leads in the end (but slowly) to loss of rechargeability, at which pointhe battery needs to be replad. I basically have a couple of questions: 1: If say 40-80% of the capacity is used each day, with full rechaging at the end of each day (phonr switched off at nght), how long is the battery likely to last until it needs replacenent? 2: During replacement, the phone is presumably totally without power for a short prtiod of time. Can this lead to information stored on the phone being lost? Specifically, my phone is a fairly basic mobile, a DORO 6520. (And it has so far been running happily for about 2 years). With thanks in advance for any info (and apologies for ny B-O-T), Best wishes to all, Ted.

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Webmail Server
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 17 Jun '19

17 Jun '19

I was happily using Squirrelmail as a webserver inside my network, firewalled so it couldn't be accessed by the big-bad internet. This seems to have been removed from the *Buntu distros because it had security issues that weren't fixed. I've looked at various alternatives but each time I look at the requirements, they all seem a bit heavy for my extremely occasional use requirements. I don't need spell checking & fancy graphics. I don't need all the mail to be loaded into a database for fast response and searching. I just need: To be able to login as any valid email user to access those emails. To access via a web browser Simple configuration Minimal processor load when not in use sending/reading emails Is there a leightweight equivalent to squirrelmail that anyone uses? Advice gratefully accepted. Cheers Steve

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T-o-T - phone battery
by Christopher Dawkins 16 Jun '19

16 Jun '19

> Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:17:36 +0100 > From: Ted Harding <ted.harding(a)wlandres.net> > Subject: [ALUG] T-O-T! > > This is to do with what happens when the time comes (if it comes) to > replace the battery of a mobile phone. > > The discharge/recharge cycle with rechargeable batteries leads in the end > (but slowly) to loss of rechargeability, > at which point the battery needs to be replaced. > > I basically have a couple of questions: > > 1: If say 40-80% of the capacity is used each day, with full recharging at > the end of each day (phone switched off at night), > how long is the battery likely to last until it needs replacement? > Varies widely. I find most modern batteries last a lot longer than they used to, and I can keep phones for four years or more. Though since I have been buying Chinese ones from geekbuying.com I can afford a new one every three years. My Elephone 8000 had the problem of compulsory diagnostics in Chinese, where I had to guess by bitter experience which symbol meant 'OK' and which meant 'try again', the worst problem being the 'make emergency call' function on which I had to give a fast apology. But then I got a Xiaomi A1 M1 with 'World' ROM, which is all in English and doing very well indeed. I did get a new second battery for my Samsung 3 many years ago, and within a few years found both old and new batteries equally good (both Samsung 3 and Elephone are still in action). The nice thing about Chinese phones is that they all take two SIM cards, very useful when travelling and inded also in the UK when in bad reception areas, so long as they are completely different. > 2: During replacement, the phone is presumably totally without power for a short period of time. Can this lead > to information stored on the phone being lost? > Never been a problem for me. > Specifically, my phone is a fairly basic mobile, a DORO 6520. (And it has > so far > been running happily for about 2 years). > Goole it. New batteries seem to be available for under £20. (Though googling DORO 6520 battery returns at first hit an amazingly useless official 7-item help page) -- Christopher Dawkins, Archivist, Felsted school Garnetts Corner, Jollyboys Lane North, Felsted, Dynmow, Essex CM6 3DU 07816 821659

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Reformatting a PDF
by Mark Rogers 03 Jun '19

03 Jun '19

On the Royal Mail website is a "handy" price guide available as a PDF: http://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/Royal-Mail-Our-Prices-March-20… It's only actually "handy" if you have a weird printer (or at least very unusual sized paper). I'm not sure what size/shape you'd call it but it would go into a DL envelope without folding... What I'd like to do is split the individual pages out and merge them to get three (maybe four) "pages" per A4 sheet so that I can print it on my very normal A4 printer. Suggestions? This is an annual headache and I'm fed up with a different manual solution every year. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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applets for mint
by Bev Nicolson 23 May '19

23 May '19

Ubuntu had a bunch of applets too of course but amongst them was one that enabled you to copy and paste fractions, copyright symbols, accents (French, Spanish, etc). Very useful. There doesn't appear to be anything similar for Mint, though. Ideas? Bev.

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Archiving photos/media from Android phone to Linux PC
by Mark Rogers 20 May '19

20 May '19

I have a Linux desktop (Ubuntu) which already gets backed up and has a decent amount of disk space on it. And I have several Android phones (mine, my wife's, etc) all of which accumulate photos and videos taken on the phone eating into storage and never getting archived off the device or properly backed up. What I want to achieve is that when at home on Wifi the phone will automatically sync all photos and video to my desktop and delete older (configurable) ones of the devices to free up space. (What I really want is to know with 100% confidence whether something is backed up so I can decide to delete it if it's taking up a lot of space; usually paranoia kicks in and I hang onto things on the device, and of-course then I run out of space...) Whilst I will happily manage the desktop end, the phone end needs to be "wife friendly", ie there needs to be an app that will do it for her. The Internet isn't short of suggestions but really I'm looking for advice from others who have done this. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 9th May
by Viperfang 06 May '19

06 May '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 9th May at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Sync to USB before unmount
by Mark Rogers 02 May '19

02 May '19

I have a script which writes data to an SD card connected via USB, then umounts it. The data is several GB in size so it hangs at the umount stage while the writes complete, and I want to give user feedback. (Note: I have had no luck whatsoever using sync to force the data to sync first, it always returns immediately.) At the moment I send umount into the background and grep /proc/meminfo for a "Dirty" value which I display, repeating until the umount command closes. This is reliable and fairly meaningful, but because it takes a few minutes is throwing a kernel INFO message into syslog: INFO: task umount:17976 blocked for more than 120 seconds Ideally I would just wait for writes to complete before even trying to umount, but I can't see a way to do that. Is there a way to determine if (say) /dev/sdc is still busy, and if so how much data is pending? Or any other suggestions? Current code (modified a bit for clarity in posting): echo -e "\n\nWaiting for writes to complete" sudo umount /dev/sdc[1-9] & while jobs -r | grep 'Running' > /dev/null ; do pending=$(grep -Po 'Dirty: *\K.*' /proc/meminfo) echo -ne "\rBuffer remaining: ~$pending " sleep 1 done echo -e "\rUnmounted - you can now remove the disk. " -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Local mirrors
by Bev Nicolson 30 Apr '19

30 Apr '19

I've swapped to Cinnamon Mint on a laptop (much better) and it's asking me whether I want to use a local mirror for updates. I've goggled so I now know what they are. What I'd like to know is, are there any downsides to using them? Bev.

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 3rd May.
by Viperfang 30 Apr '19

30 Apr '19

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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SDRplay
by Nev Young 20 Apr '19

20 Apr '19

Are there any radio hams hereabouts? Have any of you managed to make an SDRplay RSP1 or RSP1A work with linux? If so; how? Nev M0NFY (sorry if this got sent twice)

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LMS physical volume control for players
by John Cohen 21 Mar '19

21 Mar '19

Hi all I've got a logitech media server (LMS) setup with pi's all over the house that can synchronise playback from spotify and my personal music library. I use tablets & phones to control volume of the different players, as well as a Mycroft instance I can ask music requests and basic playback commands. All good so far... I'd love to have something physical like a remote control or better a dial/potentiometer on a wall to control volume on each player. Controlling the players with wifi is easy: some simple commands via http on any browser is all it takes: http://arduino-projects4u.com/squeezebox/ Can anyone thing of a creative/cheaper solution that avoids having to buy arduino shields & boards to achieve something like a physical knob or remote for volume control? cheers John

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DNS Provider recommendations
by Karl Foley 19 Mar '19

19 Mar '19

Long time subscriber, but not a huge contributor! It's come to that time of year again when my domain needs to be renewed. Turns out Daily was taken over by TSOHost since my domain was renewed three years ago. Not really had any issues, but initially thought the renewal invoice was a scam. I got a bit miffed when the renewal invoice was for more than I could renew the domain on their website for. Not really looking for the cheapest, just something that is reliable for hosting my GSuite linked domain. Any recommendations please? -- ATB, Karl

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Profiles woe
by Bev Nicolson 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

I'm still wrestling with this I'm afraid. When I try to start Thunderbird on the laptop it says it can't find the profile (renamed) though there should be one for it to use. I'm not sure how it isn't linked. How do I fix this and do you need more info? I have not touched Firefox. Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 14th March
by Viperfang 12 Mar '19

12 Mar '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th March at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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What's the easiest way to copy bits of several PDFs onto one page?
by Chris Green 06 Mar '19

06 Mar '19

I have a multilingual manual for a new tractor mounted mower. It's almost unreadable because the 'multilingual' is done by having five columns of text (one of each language) down the pages. So I thought it would be easy to scan just the English columns and paste them together, five columns to a page, to make an English only version of the manual. It's not at all easy! There are very few programs that will 'merge' PDF pages and those that do seem to assume one is just trying to pack two or four complete PDF pages onto one sheet to save paper. So can anyone suggest how I can do this? I can very easily scan the English bits as required, what I need is a handy tool for putting a number of scanned images onto a page. I was trying to do this using PDF but it may well be that other file types would be easier, I can scan to JPG, TIFF, PNM, etc. easily enough. -- Chris Green

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 1st March.
by Viperfang 26 Feb '19

26 Feb '19

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Booting from a dvd
by Bev Nicolson 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

So I thought I get going on installing Cinnamon Mint in this laptop. Plugged it in, got the dvd in but it just booted to Windows 7 instead. It knew the dvd was there and what was on it but that was as far as it went. How to I investigate why it's doing this and/or how do I get it to install Mint? Ta. Bev.

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Re: [ALUG] main Digest, Vol 164, Issue 10
by Al 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

I wouldn't try to mix EFI and BIOS in a dual boot system. Did it, with Mint, and without being able to recall the detail, it was a mess, and I recovered by reinstalling Windows and then installing Mint in EFI mode. Fortunately the Windows registration code had been stored someplace mysterious and invisible, so the reinstallation just picked it up fine, and then Mint went in just fine after ooting from the DVD in EFI mode and then doing the install after that, and everything was fine. I have a vague recollection of having to create the EFI partitions again manually. Or maybe that was some other misadventure with EFI. The other experience I have in this matter is, never, never update the BIOS. I did, having foolishly listened to advice that it was necessary, which it was not, and the main board was hosed, and the only way to recover was finding a shop somewhere in the Himalayas north of Watford who extracted the chip and reinstalled it. There is a lot to be said for old main boards that just do BIOS! Al On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 12:00:02 +0000 main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk wrote: > Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > main-owner(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of main digest..."

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Setting up laptop
by Bev Nicolson 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

So, I have a new to me laptop. How do I sensibly and safely transfer passwords, bookmarks etc onto it? I've tried to back them up before now (Firefox's 'import bookmarks from html' option) but I'm not wholly confident about that method. Step by step please. And is my assumption that because it has more memory and is newer than my current pc that a 64-bit OS (Cinnamon Mint if you’re interested) reasonable? Bev P.S. For Steve: sadly I think the scanner has gone on to the choir invisible...

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Re: [ALUG] [WLUG_Relay] embedded iframes in Firefox etc
by Phil Thane 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

Fixed it. My Firefox runs Ghostery to block trackers and it stops the frame loading. Had to whitelist my own site! -- PhilOn Sat, 2019-02-16 at 13:08 +0000, Phil Thane wrote: > Dunno if they are deprecated but redirecting would take users off my > site. The long term plan is to make a 'sticky' blog post showing my > location with rolling, or floating, need below. > > > Are frames Depricated Phil, not sure... > > > > What about a page re-direction script ? > > > > Ken > > > > On 16/02/2019 12:13, Phil Thane wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Following my questions about embedding a GPS tracker into my > > > website > > > I've followed Chris Dawkins (ALUG) suggestion and installed GPS > > > Tracker > > > 2 on my phone and created an account on Greenalp. This works OK > > > (I had > > > to wait for Greenalp to unlock my frame for embedding) on > > > Chromium but > > > not on Firefox (my usual browser) or Vivaldi. In both cases I > > > get a > > > message to the effect that map has loaded, please refresh the > > > page. A > > > normal page refresh doesn't make any difference to the frame > > > which > > > shows the Greenalp home page not my map. Is there some cunning > > > code I > > > can add to the iframe code to force a reload of the frame > > > contents? > > > I've tried searching online but not as yet found anything > > > useful. > > > > > > -- > > > Phil > > > Relay mailing list > > > Relay(a)wrexham-lug.org > > > http://wrexham-lug.org/mailman/listinfo/relay_wrexham-lug.org > _______________________________________________ > Relay mailing list > Relay(a)wrexham-lug.org > http://wrexham-lug.org/mailman/listinfo/relay_wrexham-lug.org

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embedded iframes in Firefox etc
by Phil Thane 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

Hi, > Following my questions about embedding a GPS tracker into my website I've followed Chris Dawkins (ALUG) suggestion and installed GPS Tracker 2 on my phone and created an account on Greenalp. This works OK (I had to wait for Greenalp to unlock my frame for embedding) on Chromium but not on Firefox (my usual browser) or Vivaldi. In both cases I get a message to the effect that map has loaded, please refresh the page. A normal page refresh doesn't make any difference to the frame which shows the Greenalp home page not my map. Is there some cunning code I can add to the iframe code to force a reload of the frame contents? I've tried searching online but not as yet found anything useful. -- Phil

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GSM tracking
by Christopher Dawkins 14 Feb '19

14 Feb '19

Try www.greenalp.com It's worked well for me. An example is under 'tracking' on http://cchd.co.uk/uganda but beware with images - the server is a raspberry pi on a 400K upload line. On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 12:00, <main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk> wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. realtime GSM mapping (Phil Thane) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 10:39:45 +0000 > From: Phil Thane <phil(a)pthane.co.uk> > To: North Wales LUG <northwales(a)mailman.lug.org.uk>, Wrexham LUG > <relay(a)wrexham-lug.org>, main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [ALUG] realtime GSM mapping > Message-ID: <1548758385.27559.18.camel(a)pthane.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello all, > > As the N Wales and Wrexham recipients of this will know, I'm not a > developer, the Anglian recipients probably don't know me at all but I > moved here a couple of years ago. Over the last 15 years I've written a > lot about Linux and FOSS for various magazines and websites, but I'm no > expert, so bear with me. > > Now I'm mostly retired I have a river/canal cruiser. Last year I did a > single-handed trip of about 10 days in each direction to a boat show. > So that my family could keep track I enabled 'find my phone' on my > mobile and gave them the login details. OK as far as it goes but not > ideal obvs. I also blogged each day and then wrote it all up for a boat > magazine. This year I plan a longer trip - to the Llangollen > International Eisteddfod - about 3 weeks each way. I've sorted out WIFi > and a laptop charger on the boat so I can blog better, now I'd like to > improve the mapping. The ideal would be a map I can embed in a WP page > on my website, that updates every few minutes as I travel. GPS from > either my phone, or if really necessary a dedicated GPS device. > > Does anyone know if such is already possible using OSM + plugins etc? > I've had a quick look online but most advice refers to Google maps. > Most of the rest gets very technical very quickly. Goes over my head. > > Plan B, is there a dev out there looking for a project? Unpaid and > 'free' naturally! Would it feasible to create something like > FlightRadar' that displayed boat positions on inland waterways? There > is already marinetraffic.com for shipping, but that's way too big. I'm > thinking of something boat owners could subscribe to that was available > online and capable of being embedded in a webpage. > > -- > Phil >

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 14th February
by Viperfang 11 Feb '19

11 Feb '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th February at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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OT Raspberry Pi
by Bev Nicolson 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

I thought folk might like to know that there is a Raspberry Pi shop opening tomorrow (9am) in Cambridge in the Grand Arcade. Bev.

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realtime GSM mapping
by Phil Thane 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

Hello all, As the N Wales and Wrexham recipients of this will know, I'm not a developer, the Anglian recipients probably don't know me at all but I moved here a couple of years ago. Over the last 15 years I've written a lot about Linux and FOSS for various magazines and websites, but I'm no expert, so bear with me. Now I'm mostly retired I have a river/canal cruiser. Last year I did a single-handed trip of about 10 days in each direction to a boat show. So that my family could keep track I enabled 'find my phone' on my mobile and gave them the login details. OK as far as it goes but not ideal obvs. I also blogged each day and then wrote it all up for a boat magazine. This year I plan a longer trip - to the Llangollen International Eisteddfod - about 3 weeks each way. I've sorted out WIFi and a laptop charger on the boat so I can blog better, now I'd like to improve the mapping. The ideal would be a map I can embed in a WP page on my website, that updates every few minutes as I travel. GPS from either my phone, or if really necessary a dedicated GPS device. Does anyone know if such is already possible using OSM + plugins etc? I've had a quick look online but most advice refers to Google maps. Most of the rest gets very technical very quickly. Goes over my head. Plan B, is there a dev out there looking for a project? Unpaid and 'free' naturally! Would it feasible to create something like FlightRadar' that displayed boat positions on inland waterways? There is already marinetraffic.com for shipping, but that's way too big. I'm thinking of something boat owners could subscribe to that was available online and capable of being embedded in a webpage. -- Phil

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 1st February.
by Viperfang 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Running multiple commands "securely" with one password
by Mark Rogers 25 Jan '19

25 Jan '19

I need to write a script that runs several tasks against a remote server via SSH & rsync. To be keep it simple, imagine just an rsync followed by a command via SSH. I don't want this to be passwordless - I want the script to require the remote password before it runs. But I don't want to have to enter it again until the script ends. Is there a good way to do this? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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OT Old email address
by Bev Nicolson 25 Jan '19

25 Jan '19

I've got an old (redundant) email address and would like to keep all the emails associated with it (for now at any rate.) They are all stored on my computer but I wondered if there was another way of saving them to view on Thunderbird without the email client trying to log in to the server every time I want to read them? Googling does not bring any useful info thus far. Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 10th January
by Viperfang 20 Jan '19

20 Jan '19

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 10th January at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 4th January.
by Viperfang 01 Jan '19

01 Jan '19

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Digital Tax and linux
by Jenny Hopkins 24 Dec '18

24 Dec '18

Hello! >From April, VAT returns have to be submitted using various HMRC approved software, at a cost to the business. Does anybody in ALUG have the same problem as me, of finding appropriate software that can be used with linux, at minimum cost? Thanks, Jenny

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 13th December
by Viperfang 10 Dec '18

10 Dec '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 13th December at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 7th December.
by Viperfang 04 Dec '18

04 Dec '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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OT: Domain registration/DNS hosts
by Mark Rogers 29 Nov '18

29 Nov '18

(OT but I think there's likely to be both knowledge and interest here. Correct me otherwise!) Most of my domains for historical reasons are with 123-Reg and I've been looking to move somewhere more reliable for years. 123-Reg has the advantage for me that I know it well but it's time I moved if that's the only thing keeping me there. All I *need* is to register/renew domains and handle their DNS. Ideally I would also *want* to have email/web forwarding. However I will never need them to provide email/web hosting. Most of the domains are .uk but with some exceptions. Who do others use and why? Who should I avoid? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Hard disk drive partitions and memory
by Bev Nicolson 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

1) Noticing that this PC gets glacially slow occasionally (it probably means get a new one and soon but bear with me for the moment) I had a look at the hard disk. 77 GB is 84.4% full. I have two partitions though. One 'extended partition', the other a swap partition. Both 3.1 GB. Could I unmount the first (extended partition) safely? 2) What is it full of and how could I clear stuff out, again, safely? Bev. (braced for the worst.)

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Unreliable USB3
by Mark Rogers 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

I frequently find USB3 unreliable, on more than one PC (but not all). Typical usage will be to take images of SD cards via a card reader or to access data from a hard disk via USB->SATA. Generally, it'll connect and be visible for a short while before erroring. My current PC lists its controller as: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31) How do I go about diagnosing this? Is it likely to be the driver, the hardware, or the external devices? syslog from most recent failure follows. On this occasion, I was connecting through an unpowered USB3 hub, but the problems are pretty typical regardless. Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4184.999569] usb 2-4.4: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.026221] usb 2-4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=1f75, idProduct=0621, bcdDevice= 0.36 Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.026227] usb 2-4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=4, Product=5, SerialNumber=6 Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.026231] usb 2-4.4: Product: Ext. HDD Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.026236] usb 2-4.4: Manufacturer: Innostor Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.026239] usb 2-4.4: SerialNumber: 20030225 Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 4: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb2/2-4/2-4.4" Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.293229] usb-storage 2-4.4:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.293858] scsi host4: usb-storage 2-4.4:1.0 Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.294091] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Nov 13 13:00:13 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4185.298900] usbcore: registered new interface driver uas Nov 13 13:00:32 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4203.492176] usb 2-4.4: device not accepting address 4, error -62 Nov 13 13:00:43 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4214.500585] usb 2-4.4: device not accepting address 4, error -62 Nov 13 13:00:48 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.136105] usb 2-4.4: Device not responding to setup address. Nov 13 13:00:48 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.344806] usb 2-4.4: device not accepting address 4, error -71 Nov 13 13:00:48 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.348168] usb 2-4-port4: cannot disable (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:48 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.355169] usb 2-4-port4: cannot reset (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.798423] usb 2-4-port4: cannot reset (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.897949] usb 2-4-port4: cannot reset (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.901440] usb 2-4-port4: cannot reset (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.904914] usb 2-4-port4: cannot reset (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.904922] usb 2-4-port4: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad? Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.908444] usb 2-4-port4: cannot disable (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.911947] usb 2-4-port4: cannot disable (err = -71) Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.972838] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, device number 2 Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.972843] usb 2-4.1: USB disconnect, device number 3 Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4220.974004] usb 2-4.4: USB disconnect, device number 4 Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4221.353012] usb 2-4: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4221.376022] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0612, bcdDevice=92.24 Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4221.376028] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4221.376032] usb 2-4: Product: USB3.0 Hub Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4221.376036] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: GenesysLogic Nov 13 13:00:49 mark-ubuntu kernel: [ 4221.379203] hub 2-4:1.0: USB hub found Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 8th November
by Viperfang 05 Nov '18

05 Nov '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 8th November at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Is there a way for an ssh connection to allow the server to send a file to the client?
by Chris Green 02 Nov '18

02 Nov '18

I am looking for a way that will allow my ssh 'server' machine (desktop running xubuntu 18.04 at home) to send a file back to the client machine (laptop running xubuntu 18.04 which may be anywhere including behind a firewall etc. and behind NAT). I need the server machine to be able to do this from a script running on the server at some indeterminate time after the ssh connection has been made. The only remotely possible way I can think of to do this is to run something via the 'LocalCommand' option in the client ssh configuration. However, at the moment, that's about as far as I can get. I can't think of a way of actually doing it at the moment. The best I can come up with is to have a script (run as a LocalCommand) that uses sshfs to mount a server directory on the client. Then a server script can simply copy a file to the mounted directory and it will be visible on the client. Job done..., or not. There are problems with this however. Firstly as I often have several ssh connections running at the same time there needs to be some way to prevent the LocalCommand running multiple sshfs instances. This isn't too bad to overcome but the second issue is how to pull down the sshfs connection when the last ssh exits, at present I can't see any way to do this, there isn't the equivalent of LocalCommand which runs when a connection is about to be closed. Does anyone have any ideas which might help? -- Chris Green

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Pdf measuring tools
by Bev Nicolson 31 Oct '18

31 Oct '18

I don't have Flash installed so I'm not able to 'measure' Adobe documents and it turns out this could be useful in some circumstances. Does anyone know of a Linux tool one could uses for this? Bev.

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Strange apache permission problem, can access anywhere *except* /tmp
by Chris Green 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

I want to put some temporary html files in /tmp (well, a sub-directory of /tmp) and view them using apache2. I always get permission denied and it seems as if apache2 refuses to access any files in /tmp. I have a very simple apache2 set up with the root set to /srv with an entry as follows:- <Directory /srv/> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride All Require all granted </Directory> I add symlinks to /srv to get access to files around the system, it works for every directory I've tried (even including such places as /etc) but *not* for /tmp. (I've removed all the odd symlinks again of course!) What's so special about /tmp? I've searched for references to tmp in the apache configuration but there's nothing there. Can anyone suggest what the issue is? Alternatively where can I put a file that will get cleaned out periodically (like /tmp at reboot)? -- Chris Green

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 2nd November.
by Viperfang 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Evince
by Bev Nicolson 25 Oct '18

25 Oct '18

Now, I have googled and I understand Evince/Document Viewer crashing is not news. But how come it only does this with one document for me? Opens it, loads, crashes. Okular has been downloaded, btw. I'm asking this because I’m puzzled. Bev

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Re: [ALUG] Batch formatting documents in LibreOffice? (Phil Thane)
by mark fernandes 16 Oct '18

16 Oct '18

Would headless mode Libreoffice get you closer to your goal? https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Starting_the_Software_With_Parameters HTH, Mark

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Batch formatting documents in LibreOffice?
by Phil Thane 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Hello Lugs, Like a fool I volunteered to edit the Great Ouse Boating Association magazine (GOBA News). Obviously I use LO on Linux so maybe someone can help. I get a lot texts sent in from members and others, mostly done on MS Word, various versions, different defaults and different user preferences in evidence. I change the lot as I edit them to my preferred font and remove all the odd line spaces, paragraph indents, justification and so on. It's a bit of a pain. Then I send them to another member who proof reads them, using MS word, and puts all the justification back. Eventually I send the text files (as docx) plus photos etc to the designer. I know from my past experiences with DTP the simpler the input text the easier the designer's job so I'd like to help out by stripping most of the formatting. I don't really want to go to .txt because writers use italics and bold for emphasis and that would get lost. Does anyone know if it's possible to set up a set of rules in LibreOffice then apply them to a batch of files (typically 20-30)? Can't find anything helpful online. -- Phil

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OT: SSD vs SD
by Mark Rogers 12 Oct '18

12 Oct '18

You can buy SD to SATA converters that will take up to 10 micro SD cards and turn them into a "hard drive" (2.5" form factor, SATA connector). In principle you could put 4x128GB SD cards in and get 512GB for about £100 using Samsung or Sandisk cards (Or 1TB for £200, 1.5TB for £300.) Cost wise that makes them a good percentage cheaper than equivalent capacity SSD drives. How would this compare aside from cost? Is it performance that would be a win for the SSD, or reliability (or both)? (I'm looking at this for a Ubuntu desktop but I don't think that justifies claiming it is on topic.) In part I'm looking at it as a way to re-use SD cards that I have floating around but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. At least for the ones I have looked at the total capacity will be (smallest card) * (number of cards) so if you have a mix of card sizes it doesn't work very well. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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VNC recommendations wanted please
by Chris Green 08 Oct '18

08 Oct '18

I'm thinking of using VNC to remotely access a couple of GUI applications running on my home desktop machine. Both my home desktop and the remote client machine are running xubuntu 18.04. I don't need a full desktop so a simple GUi just giving the ability to run programs is all I need. I *may* sometimes run over slow links so good link efficiency would be helpful. ... and finally it would be nice if it could use ssh for the link. So what would people recommend, preferably from the Ubuntu repositories for server and client? -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 11th October
by Viperfang 08 Oct '18

08 Oct '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 11th October at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 5th October.
by Viperfang 02 Oct '18

02 Oct '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Introduction
by Andrew Hutchings 29 Sep '18

29 Sep '18

Hi all, My name is Andrew Hutchings and I'm also known as LinuxJedi. I work as a Lead Software Engineer for a company called MariaDB. I've been a Linux user between a hobbyist and in industry for probably around 20 years. A really long time ago (about 15 years) I used to run a LUG in Wales, I've lived in Norfolk for 6 years now (Watton) and thought it was time to join one again. Look forward to chatting to you all. Kind Regards -- Andrew Hutchings - LinuxJedi - http://www.linuxjedi.co.uk/

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Samba users and permissions
by Mark Rogers 26 Sep '18

26 Sep '18

I'm rebuilding a Samba file server and my knowledge is rusty. Note this is a simple fileserver, no AD. What I want to achieve is that each user has their own user/pass but that all files stored on the server get allocated to one global user. As I recall, I need both a Linux user and a Samba user for each person. However, I still have access to the files on the old server (but cannot boot it) and looking at /etc/passwd on there I do not see the individual users listed. I know that I definitely used to access the share as "mark". Therefore I'm both confused how it used to work, but also the correct way to set it up now. It's Ubuntu Server 18.04, Samba 4.7.6. Right now I have my shares configured in /var/lib/samba/usershares and can access them all via a single user (my primary server login which I added to Samba as well). They're currently read-only because the files are all root.root owned, that's something else I'll need to change. (If I can do it, I'd like to have some users read-only and some read-write once I'm finished but that's not a priority.) -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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mdadm woes
by Mark Rogers 14 Sep '18

14 Sep '18

I have just moved two mdadm RAID1 arrays from an old server to a new one. Initially mdadm automatically created two arrays (md126 & md127), read-only and marked resync=pending. I mounted these and they were fine. I then stopped those arrays and rebuilt them manually as md0 & md1, and the resync started. Neither will now mount; mdadm seems happy but there isn't a recognisable filesystem on either array. I have stopped both arrays while I try to work out what went wrong and whether I can fix it. Suggestions? All the important data is backed up elsewhere but there's a lot of unimportant stuff that I'd nevertheless prefer to retrieve if I can. (Several TB of applications, distros, etc which can all be retrieved from the Internet if needed, which is why I don't waste space backing them up, but I'd still rather not have to throw them away and start again if I can avoid it.) One thought, although I'm fairly sure this isn't what happened, is that because I have two raid arrays I might have mixed my disks up when I created my new arrays (one of each in each). I would have thought that mdadm would have tried very hard to stop me doing that though? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Password managers
by Mark Rogers 14 Sep '18

14 Sep '18

Are there any password managers that can cope with the "pick characters 3, 5 and 11 from your password" security challenges? Santander has just moved to that, and if you have a secure unique password it's a pain. <RANT>Santander also require that the password is max 16 chars and alpha-numeric only. Because security, or something. The mere fact that they want me to pick certain characters from it already tells me that the password isn't being stored salted and hashed. It's a good job their app can use biometric because their website has just become pretty much unusable for me now.</RANT> -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Verifying files
by Mark Rogers 13 Sep '18

13 Sep '18

I'm looking for a way to search through an entire filesystem verifying file validity where possible. That is, if the file is a known file type that can be consistency checked, then run that check and see if it passes. So for a .zip file (including .jar, .odt, etc) run it through "unzip -t". And so on for other file types. I can't think of a suitable Google search that doesn't just throw up file system consistency checks, or tests against previously stored md5sum data (which I don't have, but wouldn't really be what I wanted anyway). I'll look at scripting something otherwise, but I'm not a wheel inventor if I can help it. On the assumption nobody has a good solution, the next best thing would be as many helpful hints as to file types I can test for consistency and what tools to test them with. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 13th September
by Viperfang 10 Sep '18

10 Sep '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 13th September at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 7th September.
by Viperfang 04 Sep '18

04 Sep '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Photo management handling of IPTC, EXIF, etc.
by Chris Green 22 Aug '18

22 Aug '18

I think I've been here before but still..... Is there absolutely no standard at all for photo image metadata? Yes, I know there's EXIF and IPTC and XMP, but they only define the names of the fields one can store, they don't tell you *what* the fields are for. Firstly there's a ridiculous number of fields, the full list goes on for pages and pages, you might as well say 'store anything with a name like exif.abd,def'. Secondly there are no rules about what you put in which field and every program I can find seems to have a different idea of what you put where. As a result it's all pretty useless apart from a very few IPTC fields like Copyright. There doesn't even seem to be a 'most popular program' that has managed to set the default usage. All I really want to know is where to put:- Title Longer Description Tags While one can come up with sort of semi reasonable defaults for Title and Description there really doesn't seem any remotely useful way of handling tags if you want any sort of semi-sane hierarchy. To make *any* sort of sense tags need hiearachy. E.g. for our horses an image needs animal/horse/Mikey or something of the sort. Similarly for places one needs USA/Alabama/Birmingham or UK/Warwickshire/Birmingham. Birmingham by itself is fairly useless (as Mikey might well be!). Plus a final rant, there seems no widely accepted way of handling extended character sets, some programs reject ISO 8859-1, others reject UTF-8, etc. Bla, bla, bla. It's just *awful*. Is there no way out of this mess? -- Chris Green

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Good/bad/indifferent places to keep python modules and bash scripts with functions?
by Chris Green 13 Aug '18

13 Aug '18

I'm beginning to gather a number of Python modules and also bash scripts which contain just functions. I.e. these are all files that one doesn't run directly, they are imported/called by other scripts. I know *how* to do most of this, e.g. I know about setting PYTHONPATH and PATH etc., what I'm looking for is some recommendations about good names and places to put things. I have all my top level scripts (i.e. stuff called directly) in ~/bin which gets added to one's path automatically by the default .profile (at least on Ubuntu family). So ~/bin is a sort of linux default for these. What I'm looking for is, maybe, a default for python modules and other scripts. Currently I have python modules in ~/bin/pymods and I don't have bash 'libraries' anywere. Are there any obvious 'defaults' or should I just invent names I fancy and stop being so OCD? :-) -- Chris Green

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Looking for a simple, efficient static web gallery generator
by Chris Green 13 Aug '18

13 Aug '18

I'm looking for a simple, efficient way to generate an HTML gallery from a hierarchy of jpeg images. I.e. I have a directory ~/pictures which contains quite a deep hierarchy of sub-directories oranising my pictures organised as I want them. It's quite big, something like 30 thousand images which total something over 50Gb. I want a way to generate a web gallery with much smaller iamage files (e.g. maximum image size something like 1024x1024) in a hierarchy with simple HTML (or whatever) to make it navigable with a web browser. This is 'all on one system', not for export to the WWW, it will just be displayed using the apache server on the same system. I also want to be able to select just a few images and generate a gallery which will be possible to export to a web server. This is for showing people a few pictures by sending them a link in an E-Mail. Currently I use Photofloat (https://git.zx2c4.com/PhotoFloat/about/) which does a fair amount of what I want but I'm looking for something better. Photofloat's disadvantages (for me) are:- It puts all of its output in one directory, so for my whole hierarchy there are well over 100 thousand files in one directory. This makes some operations rather difficult and slow. As a result of the above it's also difficult to find the reduced size version of any particular image which I sometimes want to do for attaching to E-Mails etc. The navigation controls while adequate could be better. It's not particularly easy to run Photofloat on a subset of my images, I've written a script to do it but the whole thing gets a bit messy. So, any ideas for a relacement? -- Chris Green

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Keeping configurations in step on multiple systems - ways and means?
by Chris Green 08 Aug '18

08 Aug '18

I'm not expecting simple glib answers to this, just fishing around for ideas and possible approaches. I have quite a few systems spread around the place all running Debian derived versions of Linux:- Desktop machine in my study, main work machine, runs xubuntu Laptop, used around the house and when away, runs xubuntu Backup machine, headless, in garage, runs xubuntu Raspberry pi on home LAN for DNS/DHCP etc., runs raspbian Virtual machine on Gandi, runs ubuntu Beaglebone Black on our boat, runs Debian I have several bits of customised configuration that I would like to, somehow, keep in sync on all the above machines, these are things like:- ~/.vilerc - editor configuration ~/.dircolors - colours for ls ... Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? If it was automatic (like syncthing) than that would be lovely, but even a simple way to say 'please update all instances of ~/.dircolors' would be handy. I'm using syncthing to keep the laptop and desktop machines in sync and it works well but it's not perfect for synchronising just a few files. It also seems a rather heavyweight program to run on the pi and the BBB just to synchronise two or three files. I don't really need 'instant' synchronisation either (as provided by syncthing), something run by cron once an hour or even once a day would be fine. I can't just run rsync with a list of files from cron because not all systems (not *any* in fact) have ssh access to other systems without needing a password or key. -- Chris Green

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Can one execute a command on the *client* after ssh login?
by Chris Green 06 Aug '18

06 Aug '18

I need to run a command on the *client* machine immediately after making an ssh connection, is there any clever way to do this? Specifically I want to execute an rsync command whenever I connect to certain systems, I have 'ControlMaster auto' set in my ssh config file so the rsync command will run without asking for a password/key. Any ideas anyone? I suppose one could alias the ssh and fire something off in the background with a wait before the actual ssh but this does seem a bit crude. -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 9th August
by Viperfang 06 Aug '18

06 Aug '18

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 9th August at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 3rd August.
by Viperfang 31 Jul '18

31 Jul '18

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Re: [ALUG] VHS archiving (Mark Rogers)
by Phil Wade 24 Jul '18

24 Jul '18

I can't help with the main question (automated skip empty tape) but a few words based on my own recent and ongoing experience of transferring VHS tapes to digital. When were the tapes last played? If it's some years (5+ or worse?) then there's a danger the tapes are a little "stuck" together at some points. I "Fast Wind Forwarded" them (not fast forward play) to free up any such sticking points. The VHS player showed what recorded time was being passed on its display, and stopped increasing this time figure when nothing was on the tape. I let them run on a bit to check it wasn't just a gap in recordings, then rewound. I understand that not all players will display this time figure when forward winding as opposed to FF playing. The PROBLEM I had was that those tapes that were a bit stuck completely F'd the player's ability to play the tapes, by stretching the drive belts (I think) when it came to a sticking point. I can now use both these players (yes, I F'd two of them...) just for forwarding and rewinding. I have a third player that is used for playing the freed-up tapes only. It's a friend's, so I have to be careful :( Not the technical answer you need, but maybe a useful warning. Phil

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VHS archiving
by Mark Rogers 23 Jul '18

23 Jul '18

A long shot, probably, but I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience of this? This is one of those subjects where Googling gives you lots of suggestions, none of them definitive, mostly questions without answers... I, like many people, have a box of VHS tapes. Stuff recorded from TV and other sources, none of it looked at for a decade or more. I want to go through them, archive the content on my PC and ditch the tapes (and VHS player). Many of the tapes aren't labelled (and the ones that are, I don't necessarily trust). Many of the tapes will be almost or completely empty. Most are 240m EP tapes (ie up to 8hrs). I have a USB video capture device that seems to work although suggests welcome. What I want to do is be able to put a tape in, rewind it, press "play", then walk away and leave it. Rinse and repeat until all the tapes are "imported". If I can do this without any interaction at the PC end at this point that would be even better (it means I can get the wife to cycle tapes through when they finish if I'm not here too). This seems simple in principle: I need my PC to "watch" the incoming video and record anything that isn't noise to a new file. Not recording the noise is the key challenge: if I put a tape in and leave it overnight, say, then there's potentially 8-12hrs of "recording" which will be mostly noise, and that's a lot of disk space to be using up. In an ideal world it would also detect program changes within a tape and split them into separate files too, but I think that might be asking too much and that's not so hard to do manually once they're on disk. Suggestions? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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