January 2011 - main

Gnome 3 Requirements
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi With the next version of Ubuntu schedule for release in April and it should include Gnome 3. Gnome 3 was supposed to be released in Sept 2010 and included in10.10, but it got put back to Mar 2011 and is being included in 11.04. Does anyone know what system requirements it will need. The latter versions of Gnome 2 required less memory and hardware than previous versions and where better suited for older machines, but what about Gnome 3. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Running Perfectly Well
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi Success! I am now running Ubuntu 10.10 and it is fine with no power issues. It will boot off battery fine and I can also remove the power adapter while it is running. Brilliant. I did a fresh install - no power issues. I ran update manager, all updates installed - no power issues. It must have been an upgrade issue before (from 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10). Glad I set up a separate partition to save all my files on, it has made this trial and error a lot easier. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Live No Power Issues
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi As you know I had problems in Ubuntu 10.10 where my R31 wouldnt run off battery. It would hang on boot if on battery and if the power adapter came out it would hang too. I wiped it, ran the 9.10 live CD and didnt have this problem. So I installed 9.10 still no problem. I ran the 10.04 live CD and didnt have this problem. So I installed 10.04 still no problem. I just ran the 10.10 live CD and am not having this problem. So would you wipe and install 10.10 or still with 10.04? I am presuming the problem was because I originally installed 9.10, then upgraded to 10.04, then upgraded to 10.10. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.04 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Wont Boot Live CD
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi I am trying to resolve a problem with 10.10. I had it installed on my R31 and it wouldnt run on battery and if you booted from power adapter and then removed it, it would hang the machine. I wiped and installed 9.10, it didnt do it. I wiped and installed 10.04, it didnt do it. I ordered a 10.10 CD from eBay - because I didnt have any blanks or a burner in my ThinkPad. My machine wont boot from it. It will boot live and install from the 9.10 CD I have (which is an official disc from Ubuntu) and it will boot live and install from the 10.04 CD I burnt a while ago on another machine. So why wont this CD boot. I tried it in another machine and it booted ok. So I am lost now. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.04 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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[ALUG Announce] Norwich 2nd Thursday Mub Peet
by Adam Bower 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Norwich 2nd Thursday Pub Meet This months second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on 13th January 2011 (err, tonight!) at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA http://www.thecoachthorperoad.co.uk/ although their website currently has no content on it, hah!) There should be people there from 8pm, If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. See you all tonight, so be there or... err, somewhere else. Adam -- New signature required, suggestions on a post card please. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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R31 Locks when removing adapter
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi I have an R31. It came with a dead battery. I bought a genuine IBM one from ebay and it works, but if you pull the lead out while it is charging it locks the laptop up. Two of the lights under the screen - caps lock and the screen one - flash. It does it in Ubuntu, but works fine in XP. Any ideas? Simon

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Re: [ALUG] OK, so as an interim measure...
by Anthony Anson 11 Jan '11

11 Jan '11

nev young wrote: > On 10/01/11 17:58, Anthony Anson wrote: >> nev young wrote: >>> There's still my place. We could even get some carry outs from the FC. >> >> Mmmmmm. I has a ½ galleon kerry-oot flask - FC's deposit on bockles is >> somewhat heavy. >> >> Might have to bring walking frame innit. >> > FC does 2 and 4 pt cardboard boxen for free. Troo, but: When in Rome, one takes some home, But when in Norwich, one should forwich For tasty pies and rolls in piles, And spots of WAP and Penguin files Mmmm! With the beef a jar of wallop, Horseradish relish, goodly dollop And, mighty Crashbang! What am I hearing? Has the barman dropped an earring? Ah, relieved looks over faces pass: Not an earring, just a glass... -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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OK, so as an interim measure...
by Anthony Anson 10 Jan '11

10 Jan '11

Supposing I do decide to dump Xan dross - I can get the contents of this HDD onto a Mini SD card. But, not wanting to burn my boats until I have a decet distro up and running, what do I need to do to copy it so that it's bootable from USB card reader? Or failing that, memory stick? Thinks: prolly better to install the new distro to a memory stick and get used to it first? IIRC, I had prombles getting this (early) Eee to boot from USB. Nev! Marmalade sometime next week? (ALUG minimeet in Fat Cat innit) -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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10.04 No Lock Up
by Simon Royal 10 Jan '11

10 Jan '11

Hi. If any of you are still following my saga, I have more to add. Ubuntu 10.10 would lock my ThinkPad R31 up if the power adapter was removed or if I booted off battery it would lock once into Ubuntu. I booted the 9.10 live CD and it didnt do it. So I installed it. No problems. I then ran the 10.04 live CD and it didnt do it. It ran the 10.04 live CD off the battery and I could pull the adapter out and put it back in, no worries. So it is either a problem with 10.10 in general, or because originally I installed 9.10 upgraded via update manager to 10.04 and then to 10.10 and it something to do with upgrading distros. But anyway it has solved it and I am now installing 10.04 as I write this. Simon

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Battery Lock Up... In 10.10 Not 9.10
by Simon Royal 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

Hi This is a follow up to my email earlier today regarding my battery issues in Ubuntu 10.10. (see it below). I am writing this from within Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD off the battery. OK, so the battery is still not charging properly but this is a battery issue and has the same probs under XP. Under 10.10 if I booted up off the battery or pulled the plug while it was on it would hang the machine, but it isnt doing it under 9.10. This at least gives me a bit of hope that it isnt hardware related or a problem with my ThinkPad more of a Ubuntu issue. Can anyone shed any light on this. I might just go ahead and install 9.10 over 10.10 - at least then I could run it off battery. Simon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and Ubuntu 10.10 The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct time left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I have bigger problems in Ubuntu. It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets into Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same. It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this is more of a problem with Ubuntu specifically. I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=off - but that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of screen and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and restored grub. I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me from using Ubuntu all the time. Any ideas? Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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