March 2007 - main

Re: [ALUG] cups server broken after upgrade to etch
by Jenny Hopkins 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Fixed. And the problem was? Cupsys_1.2.7 package hadn't installed properly, which in turn meant cupsys-driver-gimpprint and cupsys-driver-gutenprint hadn't installed properly. I found and fixed this by: 1. removed the cupsys package and moved /etc/cups directory. 2. installed above packages. I tried all this yesterday and it was all a bit twitchy, but today it absolutely refused to install cupsys, as it couldn't read '/etc/cups/cupsd.conf'. I had a look, and this didn't exist, as it was part of the cupsys package itself. 3. I examined the package in /var/cache/apt/archives, and hand-copied the cupsd.conf to /etc/cups. 4. I re-ran the install command, and this time it installed, then gutenprint ran a whole bunch of useful, helpful stuff, which it definitely hadn't yesterday. 5. The printer was detected and a test page printed successfully. Hoorah! I wonder if this is a bug I ought to report. Perhaps the pre-inst and post-inst lines are muddled or something, or more likely it was my bad luck. Thanks for all the help. I can also use the hp-toolbox now as a result of the breakage. Jenny I

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cups server broken after upgrade to etch
by Jenny Hopkins 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hullo there, I've just upgraded my debian amd64 server to etch. cups print server is now misbehaving. If I use the web interface on ipp 631, clicking on any of the links request I use https:blah, rather than http:blah, and offer the URL, but following that link causes the page to hang and cupsys to be restarted. Previously I would be asked for a login and password. If I try printing a test page from the web interface, I get the error "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds". The error log on the server says: "D [01/Mar/2007:19:34:07 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided." I have a queue of daughters waiting to print homework, help! These are the packages I've been upgraded to: dpkg -l | grep cupsys ii cupsys 1.2.7-4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server ii cupsys-bsd 1.2.7-4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD comman ii cupsys-client 1.2.7-4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client pro ii cupsys-common 1.2.7-4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - common fil ii cupsys-driver-gimpprint 5.0.0-3 printer drivers for CUPS ii cupsys-driver-gutenprint 5.0.0-3 printer drivers for CUPS ii libcupsys2 1.2.7-4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs ii libcupsys2-gnutls10 1.2.7-4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - dummy libs Thanks, Jenny

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Re: SLED
by Eur Ing Chris Green 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 09:58:53AM -0000, Peter Onion wrote: > <AOL> Me Too </AOL> I just don't trust them not to do what ever M$ tells > them to do :( > > I've just removed SuSE 10.0 from the last of my machines, and I've gone all > retro, and put Gentoo on instead ;) It's almost as much fun as Slackware > used to be :) > It still is! :-) -- Chris Green

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SLED
by Greg Thomas 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Yesterday, I received a presentation on SLED - http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/ Essentially, SUSE Linux + OpenOffice + Novell improvements. FWIW, I was dead impressed. OK, so underneath it all it's just another Linux distro, but it is really really nicely packaged. Yes, it's €47 pa (for support updates + support), but it's not aimed at the readers of this list - for the first time I really think there is a genuine enterprise ready alternative to Windows on the general user desktop. Greg

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My search for a CMS - some progress and conclusions
by Eur Ing Chris Green 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

You may or may not remember me asking about CMS here several weeks ago. Well I have come to some conclusions:- The 'front runners' like Joomla! and Drupal are not what I want, they are so strongly oriented towards dynamic sites with mostly blogs and news. There are a few CMS which are close to what I want, the best (for me) examples are ezPublish, and websitebaker. In fact I think I may still settle on websitebaker. Some Wikis are close to what I want but they don't quite hack it for a commercial/business site, they simply look too much like a Wiki! I am using TWiki on my home Linux box for personal and family stuff though Wikis do seem to be happier with mostly text. Finally, via the Wikis and thus markup languages I have come across another set of utilities for making web sites. These might be called web site 'compilers'. You maintain the web site in the markup language and then run the markup 'compiler' to create the site. This may range from doing it manually (or with your own script) to things like ikiwiki and webmake which wrap the building up for you. I'm currently playing with AsciiDoc which looks like it's ideal for some of my requirements. -- Chris Green

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Links in text files - how to make them clickable?
by Eur Ing Chris Green 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

I have a memory from somewhere that one can make URLs in text files 'clickable' when viewing the text file in a browser. I even have a sample file:- http://home.isbd.net/chris/xxx.txt which I'm sure I remember trying once and being surprised when it worked. (I think I maybe had to double click the link) However I can't make this work now, did I imagine it or can someone point me at what I need - e.g. is it a Firefox extension? -- Chris Green

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Fw: [ALUG] SLED
by Stephen Bell 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Greg Thomas <Greg(a)TheThomasHome.co.uk> To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Sent: Thursday, 1 March, 2007 2:48:09 PM Subject: [ALUG] SLED Yesterday, I received a presentation on SLED - http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/ Essentially, SUSE Linux + OpenOffice + Novell improvements. FWIW, I was dead impressed. OK, so underneath it all it's just another Linux distro, but it is really really nicely packaged. Yes, it's 47 pa (for support updates + support), but it's not aimed at the readers of this list - for the first time I really think there is a genuine enterprise ready alternative to Windows on the general user desktop. Greg Well, yes, but it is aimed at some readers of this list, namely me, a beginner, who went for the SUSE package for the reasons listed. I wanted a Windows replacement and I believe I've found it. However I've first got to get it to work fully -- the wireless laptop it is on connects to the net via the remaining XP but SUSE can't find the wireless or an Ethernet connection. All ideas welcome. I've then got to learn my way around it from scratch. Steve _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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A small victory
by Eur Ing Chris Green 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Today my desktop PC will change from a Microsoft Windows XP based one to a Linux (Fedora I think) one. Hurrah! On the windows PC I always ran an X server which displayed my Solaris CDE desktop but now I can run a proper 'unix like' system directly on my work machine (like I used to in the more distant past when we all had Sun workstations). Progress! :-) -- Chris Green

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RE: [ALUG] A small victory
by Tracy Dickerson 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Nice one Chris :-) Wish I could do that here.... Tracy x -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Eur Ing Chris Green Sent: 01 March 2007 08:56 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] A small victory Today my desktop PC will change from a Microsoft Windows XP based one to a Linux (Fedora I think) one. Hurrah! On the windows PC I always ran an X server which displayed my Solaris CDE desktop but now I can run a proper 'unix like' system directly on my work machine (like I used to in the more distant past when we all had Sun workstations). Progress! :-) -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: beryl?
by Simon 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

I'm about this > < close from installing beryl as my default window manager. Some of it is eye candy / bling / whatever you want to call it but some of the newer features are useful and remember, it's still pretty much a proof of concept, to show the kind of stuff that's possible with a compositing window manager... The fact that the cube thing etc runs smoothly on my rubbish old laptop is amazing, seeing as mac hardware which effectively does similar eye candy stuff is so expensive and yeah, I do show mac users I know to impress them. Windows users too now that Vista has a bit of eye candy they think it's the bees knees... And yeah, beryl is a weird name for a project cos it sounds like an old granny name... Heh. --Simon _____________________________________ Anyone using beryl? (http://www.beryl-project.org) I saw a video of it in use on YouTube, looks really nice. I blew away Linux on my "fast" desktop in order to play games, although I managed to get most of my games running with the third-party ATI Radeon drivers, it would hang and stuff, but that's another story. I run DSL on an old P3 so I'll not be installing beryl anytime soon! :) Just wondered what others think of it? Cheers. -Mark

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