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[Alug]Internet connection sharing
by Ben Francis 17 May '03

17 May '03

I have a redhat box here at home with no XWindows running. When I installed redhat it could pretty much automatically connect to my dialup internet connection through my Microsoft Internet Connection Sharing across my home LAN as soon as I plugged it into my hub, I don't know how it does this. I mainly use the box to ssh coonect to other linux shells across the internet. However, about 1 in 3 boots on the redhat box result in the message "Temporary failure in name resolution" when I attempt to ssh connect. The only way I've been able to find to get it to see the internet is to reboot it. Surely there' must be an easy way of showing it where the internet connection is without having to reboot! I would set up the internet dialup on the linux box and connect the three XP boxes in the house to it, but I only have a winmodem and as I'm hopefully getting broadband soon it's not really worth the hastle. While I mention broadband, a slightly off topic question. My local telphone exchange gets ADSL enabled on June 4th but in a couple of months a local company starts "trials" of WiFi internet access based on 802.11g with at least a 10 meg connection for around the same price as ADSL! Do you think I should go for ADSL or wait and risk connecting to the fast, but new service which could be unreliable? I'd like to get a short term ADSL contract until I see how the service pans out, but I can't afford the hardware for both as I want to use a router or an access point for my network, not an ADSL "modem" or Wireless Card. What do you think? Regards Ben Francis

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[Alug]Re: main digest, Vol 2 #139 - 18 msgs
by David Cartwright 16 May '03

16 May '03

>Ok: wrt ADSL and static IP addresses: true enough (unless you can find a >cable provider that does static, I'm not aware of any), but anything that >*requires* static IP probably shouldn't be on the end of an ADSL line >anyway. There are plenty of dynamic dns services out there, which resolve >this particular problem neatly. Oh, I dunno. ADSL is stable enough to host things like secondary DNSs, secondary mail servers and that kind of thing. This gives me the ability to have secondary services of this type that I own and control without the need to pay expensive hosting charges. Mine has been up for months and seems extremely stable (he says, tempting fate :-). On the dynamic DNS front, it can be a pain if (for instance) you want the firewall in your main hosting centre to trust connections coming from your home office, but your IP address keeps changing. This said, there are solutions to this problem, such as using VPN connectivity instead of trust arrangements (which adds the benefit of encryption, of course). D.

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[Alug]re: costs
by w0037109 16 May '03

16 May '03

Back to costs again! A couple of people asked me where to go to get the free jiffy bags and coasters, so rather than reply individually, I'm posting it via the group. As you may know, technet costs a bit, but if you take the time and effort to apply for the stuff yourself, you can have a constant flow of jiffy bags! http://www.microsoft.com/uk/technet/preview/evaluation.asp If that stops working ('cos it moves occasionally so people don't keep bookmarking it) use the left navigation bar on the microsoft.co.uk site and goto the menu marked product families > windows > product overview. On the right hand side is a "windows XP business Evaluation pack" which takes you to tech net site (odd that) and there is an "additional resources" menu on the right. Click "order trial products" and you're away! Tim Neobard ------------- w0037109 SYS3 MSN:fallscrape@hotmail.com ICQ:63488574 Tel:01603 492495 http://www.far2much.info

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Re: [Alug]Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list
by Andybenn＠aol.com 16 May '03

16 May '03

My two-pennyth - << If this were a normal tax, paid for the general good of the country, it would fund all the materials for education, wouldn't it? Or are we just using taxes to redistribute intellectual property? >> Taxes are a gift to the government! Once we are parted from our money we should, in the spirit of all gifts, be prepared to say goodbye to it forever ;-) Andy

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[Alug]re: costs
by w0037109 16 May '03

16 May '03

well, if you want to save a bit of cash I can tell you where to get free padded envelopes from the enemy! It's easy. Just goto the Microsoft website, and sign up for their free CD trials. A few days later you begin to receive packages in nice well padded A4 white envelopes. I have funded my ebay sellings to date through this practice so I can offer cheap P&P This method maybe a little off-hand, but still extremely handy to know... plus you get some nice looking holographic coasters & we're slowly bringing down the company... mwahah, mwahahahahh, mwahahahaahahhah (continues evil laughter) :- ) Tim Neobard ------------- w0037109 SYS3 MSN:fallscrape@hotmail.com ICQ:63488574 Tel:01603 492495 http://www.far2much.info

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[Alug]Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list
by Andybenn＠aol.com 16 May '03

16 May '03

I am interested in Linux as I no longer wish to be fleeced by MS into constantly upgrading (unnecessarily, IMO) their expensive software. I welcome and endorse the idea of freedom of choice in computing (and anything else) and find myself fully allied to the Linux ideals. The internet has enabled like-minded people to communicate with each other no matter where in the world they are - and amazing things can happen when people get together in a spirit of co-operation. Linux is a superb example what a community can achieve. And all done in with wonderful open-handed generosity. Andrew Benn +44 (0)7798 526962 +44 (0)1263 761133

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RE: [Alug]Internet connection sharing
by Adam Bower 16 May '03

16 May '03

> From: Andrew Savory [mailto:lists@andrewsavory.com] > I'd hang out for the wireless broadband. From my experience, ADSL is > bottom of the league table very slightly above 56k modem, > with wireless at > the top followed by cable modem. I disagree with this entirely :) I would put ADSL at the top as you can run servers and get static ip addresses, no port blocking etc, etc, and place cable modems and wireless far behind ADSL depending on what you dislike less (i.e. ntl and transparent webcaches (yuk), and wireless being unreliable in certain conditions but you can get static ips from some of the services and run servers) Adam

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[Alug]Routers
by BenE 15 May '03

15 May '03

My exchange is about to be converted to broadband (yes!) and I've been advised that getting a router would be the easiest way of getting it to work with linux. In the estemed ALUG's opinion, is this so? The cost isn't really a problem, but I'm concerned about configuration (if any is needed. My knowledge of networks stops at being able to explain what a token ring is...and I have to use 'lord of the flies' as an example) thanks, BenE

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Re: [Alug]Internet connection sharing
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 May '03

15 May '03

Ben Francis wrote: >...However, about 1 in 3 boots on the redhat box result in the message >"Temporary failure in name resolution" when I attempt to ssh connect. The >only way I've been able to find to get it to see the internet is to reboot >it. Surely there' must be an easy way of showing it where the internet >connection is without having to reboot! Your redhat box should have the hosts-ip name resolutions in your /etc/hosts file, so if you type ssh zxr400 it will look for an entry zxr400 234.567.898.765 (for example) presuming the linux boxes you ssh to are on fixed IP addresses. Or do you mean that it is the actual internet connection you lose? Have you checked that your redhat box has the windows with the modem as its gateway? On debian this info is in a file /etc/network/interfaces. Or do you mean that you type, e.g. ssh www.google.com and the name can't be resolved, in which case you may need to add some name servers to your /etc/resolv.conf file on your redhat box? I may have misunderstood your problem. >I would set up the internet dialup on the linux box and connect the three XP >boxes in the house to it, but I only have a winmodem......... :-) My favourite subject.... Have you checked it on http://www.linmodems.org site? Jen

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[Alug]CD's
by John Seago 15 May '03

15 May '03

OK, OK, I give in donation toward whatever on Sunday! -- John Seago

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