April 2003 - main

RE: [Alug] Evening Meetings
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '03

17 Jul '03

Syd wrote: >How about an informal evening meeting in Norwich on Monday's from about 8pm Syd - I live too far away, but enjoy. Should we change the IRC meeting evening, though? Jen

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[Alug]Automatic Log-out Program
by Dan Hatton 13 May '03

13 May '03

I'd like to know the name of a program that is to u?xterm as autolog is to virtual terminal, i.e. that listens for key-presses, and closes the u?xterm if there are none for just over two hours.� It's annoying me by closing my uxterms in the middle of large (ftp)|(smtp)|(apt) transactions, and I can't stop it running without knowing what it's called. Any suggestions, please? -- Ta Dan Hatton <http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/>

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[Alug]FW: Penguicon
by Keith Watson 11 May '03

11 May '03

From: Andy Potter; > > Keith, > > I thought this might appeal to you: http://penguicon.sourceforge.net/ > > Andy > One of my colleagues sent me this link and I thought it would be of interest to the list :o) Keith ____________ CONSULT, v.i. To seek another's disapproval of a course already decided on. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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[Alug]LOCAL: ALUG Meeting, Norwich, 8pm, Thu 1 May 2003
by MJ Ray 04 May '03

04 May '03

[1]ALUG [2]Map Meeting 2003.5 : Norwich: The Forum bar 1 May 2003 Plan for the meeting Roughly, as follows: We will meet up from 8pm onwards for an informal evening get-together for anyone interested in GNU/Linux. NB: This venue is not suitable for anything more than portable equipment (laptops, palmtops, etc). How to get there For directions, please see [3]the venue information page. People at the meeting So far, Syd and Keith are confirmed, while Graham and MJR are suspected. Surprisingly low numbers so far, given how much interest there was in a Norwich meeting. If you will also be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can be prepared for the numbers! Equipment Equipment is brought at your own risk. We strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Be sure to bring all appropriate power cables etc. An extra extension lead will also be a good idea. So far, for this meeting, we know of: MJR A small fluffy penguin to sit on the table, so that you can find us. Discussion If you want to discuss this meeting, please [4]use the mailing list. [5]Back to the meetings index * Destinations 1. [6]Join ALUG 2. [7]FAQ 3. [8]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [9]Peterborough 2. [10]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [11]PHP4Hosting 2. [12]Black Cat Networks 3. [13]Martyn Drake 4. [14]Turo Technology LLP You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [15]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 3. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/forum.html 4. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 5. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/ 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 7. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 8. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 9. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 10. http://www.cam-lug.org.uk/ 11. http://www.php4hosting.co.uk/ 12. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ 13. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 14. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ 15. http://www.lug.org.uk/

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[Alug]Debian Install
by Ian Bell 03 May '03

03 May '03

I now have debian installed on my other partition and have managed to get X working under Gnome but not KDE. Unfortunately the installer ignored my rh7.3 on the other partition and overwrote the MBR - good job I had made a boot disk. Anyway, tried to mod the redhat lilo.conf to boot debian too but I can't get it to work. boot is /dev/hda in both cases. rh root is /dev/hda1 and debian is /dev/hda2. I can only have one root statement in the preamble block and lilo does not like path names starting /dev in the image line. So how to do this? Ian

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Re: [Alug]Unfriendly A7N266-VM motherboard - was rtl8139 aha moment
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 02 May '03

02 May '03

Adam Bower wrote: >I still think my boss did this as a "challenge" you couldn't get a less >supported x86 motherboard if you tried (I suspect anyhow) and I may well give >up on the onboard ethernet and just use a different PCI nic instead and may >reccomend you do the same too. At least if you do that it will work ok with >Debian and getting the thing online to upgrade will not be so difficult. I was so heartened by this that I stuffed in an old NIC that was lying around, got networking going, and things are looking up. Unfortunately when I then upgraded to a later kernel (2.4.19 from 2.4.18-bf2) I lost the networking again :-) The first kernel image wouldn't boot at all as it seemed to be trying to mount "root=3:01" rather than /dev/hda1? For all that onboard not-worky stuff I found a driver package on nVidia website, NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0248.tar.gz but keep getting make errors. I don't even know if it contains the correct drivers. Adam - have you tried this? So no XWindow (essential for the job this computer is required for) and only networking with one kernel image so far. Also can't find anywhere in BIOS to turn off either PnP OS or the onboard NIC. I'm about to waste a bit more time this morning doing a 2.4.20 build. Adam - I think your boss did this because the computer is currently on offer at a bargain price at Cambridge Computers - that's how come I ended up being bought one. The subsequent amount of hours at my hourly wage trying to get it working could have brought one twice as expensive and still been cheaper for them :-) Jenny

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RE: [Alug]Unfriendly A7N266-VM motherboard - was rtl8139 aha mome nt
by Adam Bower 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

> From: Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com > Unfortunately when I then upgraded to a later kernel (2.4.19 from > 2.4.18-bf2) I lost the networking again :-) > The first kernel image wouldn't boot at all as it seemed to > be trying to > mount "root=3:01" rather than /dev/hda1? I had some kind of problem with this, it is to do with the root=/dev/hda1 line in lilo. On this machine root is /dev/hda3 but the kernel could not mount the disk here etc. I am not sure what is happening yet but when I get some more time to put linux on this box I will work it out then. > For all that onboard not-worky stuff I found a driver package > on nVidia > website, NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0248.tar.gz but keep getting make > errors. I > don't even know if it contains the correct drivers. Adam - > have you tried > this? Yes it does contain the correct drivers, but they are a selection of .o .h and .c files, you will need to have the kernel-headers for your running kernel installed to be able to compile the module. Of course I didn't get this far because of the booting any 2.4 series kernel problem, these drivers will not work with a 2.2 series kernel either. > So no XWindow (essential for the job this computer is > required for) and > only networking with one kernel image so far. > Also can't find anywhere in BIOS to turn off either PnP OS or > the onboard > NIC. Don't bother about turning off the onboard nic if you are going to use a PCI one. There was a BIOS update for this machine that I did install, I think it have an option to turn off the PnP OS, I will let you know later when I have had a chance to reboot this machine. > I'm about to waste a bit more time this morning doing a > 2.4.20 build. Adam > - I think your boss did this because the computer is > currently on offer at > a bargain price at Cambridge Computers - that's how come I > ended up being > bought one. The subsequent amount of hours at my hourly wage > trying to get > it working could have brought one twice as expensive and > still been cheaper > for them :-) You know something you are 200% correct, I really dislike CCS and wish I could have gone to somewhere like WOC in Milton to get some kit, they are really supportive of Linux type things (well everything really) and have exchanged things for me many times which turned out to be a pain to get working. Spending the extra pennies at WOC has really helped me out in the past. Adam

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[Alug]CueCat
by w0037109 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Just to show how out of the run of things I am, I just came accross a CueCat (check slashdot for numerous postings). Apparently these things (apart from infringing your privacy) do good "stuff" with barcodes :- ) We're in the process of starting a business not dissimilar to www.thinkgeek.com but a UK/EU equivilant! hang on... I feel a plug coming on: <plug> www.puregeeks.com </plug> and I'm thinking of getting one of these thingies so I can play with barcodes for the stock. Anyone had any experience of these thingies? Tim Neobard ------------- w0037109 SYS3 MSN:fallscrape@hotmail.com ICQ:63488574 Tel:01603 492495 http://www.far2much.info

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[Alug]Sharp zaurus sl-c700
by Adrian F. Clark 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

I've just noticed that eXpansys are taking pre-orders for the Sharp Zaurus SL-C700, a 400 MHz xscale device with a 640x480 screen that can be used in Psion-like clamshell mode or, thanks to some magic hinges, a la Palm. Runs Linux, of course. It has CF _and_ SD slots and can take an 802.11 CF card. Many of the programs developed for the 5500 apparently work on it and I've seen a web-site with pictures of a John Wayne movie playing on one. (OK, so not all owners have good taste.) Some of us have been drooling over this PDA since its announcement last November in Japan but this is the first time I've seen a UK-friendly version available. No price yet, alas, but I've already placed my order. At last, I can replace my aging Psion 5 with a palmtop that I should be able to get emacs onto! ;-) http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=SL-C700 for more details. ..Adrian -- Dr Adrian F Clark WEB: http://esewww.essex.ac.uk/~alien/ EMAIL: alien(a)essex.ac.uk TEL: +44 1206 872432 FAX: +44 1206 872900 PAPER: VASE Lab, Dept ESE, University of Essex, Colchester, CO4 3SQ, UK

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[Alug]Announce digest, Vol 2 #6 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. LOCAL: Meeting: Norwich, 8pm Thu 1 May (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:17:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Alug Announce]LOCAL: Meeting: Norwich, 8pm Thu 1 May [1]ALUG [2]Map Meeting 2003.5 : Norwich: The Forum bar 1 May 2003 Plan for the meeting Roughly, as follows: We will meet up from 8pm onwards for an informal evening get-together for anyone interested in GNU/Linux. NB: This venue is not suitable for anything more than portable equipment (laptops, palmtops, etc). How to get there For directions, please see [3]the venue information page. People at the meeting So far, Syd and Keith are confirmed, while Graham and MJR are suspected. If you will also be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can be prepared for the numbers! Equipment Equipment is brought at your own risk. We strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Be sure to bring all appropriate power cables etc. An extra extension lead will also be a good idea. So far, for this meeting, we know of: MJR A small fluffy penguin to sit on the table, so that you can find us. Discussion If you want to discuss this meeting, please [4]use the mailing list. [5]Back to the meetings index * Destinations 1. [6]Join ALUG 2. [7]FAQ 3. [8]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [9]Peterborough 2. [10]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [11]PHP4Hosting 2. [12]Black Cat Networks 3. [13]Martyn Drake 4. [14]Turo Technology LLP You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [15]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 3. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/forum.html 4. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 5. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/ 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 7. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 8. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 9. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 10. http://www.cam-lug.org.uk/ 11. http://www.php4hosting.co.uk/ 12. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ 13. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 14. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ 15. http://www.lug.org.uk/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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