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Re: [Alug] password stuff
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

David Freeman wrote: >Depends what else you use the password for. It's my user password, the one that allows me to use samba in the first place. I wondered if it was possible to make a dummy user for no other purpose than making the backup over a samba mount. I just wanted to set up a system that is secure in the interests of good working practice. >If you put it in the file and just make it so it has > >---x------ then you are away. How do you mean? How can I just make it this? >Alternatively, scan.co.uk sell CDRW drives from 65, get one and use >for backup. Hollow laughter at the thought of either having my own money to part with or persuading my boss to do so...... The PATH= blah blah line in bashrc works a treat, thanks. I'll study root's bashrc file and try to understand. Many thanks, Jenny.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net http://www.epicsol.org/ (for Brett!) Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Access
by David Freeman 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

In a deep and meaninful conversation with a list member whom I work with we were discussing the future of computer operating systems. One of the feature that it was decided on would be required to really boost *NIX OS's was on from NT (and Netware) which is file access lists. Does any one know of a way of implementing a per USER based access lists for files on *NIX. i.e. file foo.bar can be read by fred and alice, bob has write and read access and Eve has no access. As far as I am aware there is know way of doing this easily Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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National Sysadmin day
by David Freeman 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Its national sysadmin day today. the BBC has an article on it with this fantastic quote " I know many of you might have a low opinion of "techies". (Let me just point out here that the image you might have of system administrators staying up all night, surrounded by pizza boxes, old Coke cans, playing Quake is NOT right. That's developers you're thinking of.) " http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1460000/1460166.stm Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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OT: Keyboards and sugar
by David Freeman 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Is there anybody on list who can explain what a KVM switch actually does inside, i.e. its not just a simple switch it does somesort of emulation of keyboards and mice. Also are there any chemists on the list who could draw a diagram of a glucose molacule? Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Which file
by David Freeman 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

When you log into a Box there are two message files used, one called motd is given when you have logged in, what the name of the file which is displayed before you log in i.e. Welcom to My computer all senssions are logged Username: This is on a Sun box running solaris. Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Bloody Vikings
by David Freeman 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Has anyone else recieved an email from some Spanish person with a 293KB attachment with a .doc.bat extension? I recieved two copies which put me over my inbox size limit and I missed aload of stuff from email this morning. Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] backup loop
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

Adam Bower wrote: >and reduced the machine to the overall speed of a windows box. It's funny you should say that; that was one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind when the linux box was, for the first time ever, as responsive as a slug! Jen

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Re: [Alug] backup loop
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

Alexis said: >(who's had plenty of fun with cron before...) Ah! I also am surprised that the file didn't simply replace itself, why did it build up to size 33241453? crontab now changed to 0 12 * * * /home/jenny/backups 10 12 * * * /root/mainbak Fun and games today - just had to deal with first 1st aid casualty since finishing course a few months back, as a guy got a sheet of metal racking drop on his head. Thanks all, Jenny.

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backup loop
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

'Lo All, I appear to have sent my box into a timewarp of some kind. I set crontab to run my newly created backup file with * 12 * * * /home/jenny/backups the contents of /home/jenny/backups are if [ -d /home/jenny/cwp/ ]; then tar -czf /backup/cwpbak.tar.gz /home/jenny/cwp/ fi if [ -d /home/jenny/ ]; then tar -czf /backup/jen.tar.gz /home/jenny/ fi (I'm doing the dir and the sub dir as the contents of /cwp are shortly to be moved elsewhere) This set off as it should, and, wow, the entire computer has gone bonkers. tty0 has reams of computer generated code crunching away like mad, and, on logging in to tty1 (which took a good 20 secs) ps -aux shows masses of extra stuff, for example gzip and the above tar command seem to be running lots of times. Goes up to number 1253. I've tried a CTRL-C and have a nice white message saying "interrupted" but it still is crunching away. I'm about to do a reboot, hopefully that'll sort it out, but can anyone tell me *why* it did this? When I ran the command in there from a cli it executed fine. Jen ("Alarmed" of Burwell) ps. It is now taking 8 years to shut down. :-( Ah - message: " VFS: file-max limit 4096 reached". Oops. No wonder. I'm starting to suspect the * 12 * * *................)

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