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Re: [ALUG] Anyone in yarmouth...
by Ricky Bruce 01 Jan '04

01 Jan '04

lol, sorry, came across a little over enthusiastic there:) no fear, i'll dual boot, the only reason im stuck using my dads pc is because i just got back into the country and had to leave mine behind. My dads elvis mp3 collection is safe...for now! >From: Syd Hancock <syd(a)toufol.com> >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [ALUG] Anyone in yarmouth... >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:06:36 +0000 > >On Wednesday 31 Dec 2003 6:56 pm, Ricky Bruce wrote: > > got a copy of RH, Mandrake, Suse or maybe even slackware, mind > > lending it to me...the library here is sh*t and has only the one > > linux book that has no cd's, and no cd burners. Gotta wipe > > Windows, AOL et al off of my dads computer before i go crazy... > >Errm, Ricky, unless you really know what you're doing, this would be >a very foolish move IMO. Slow down, take your time, maybe introduce >yourself to the list... > > > not withstanding any problems with winmodems i might encounter, > > has anyone ever managed to run AOL using wine/x or crossover? not > > that i like it but my dad wont bandy up the cash for broadband no > > matter how persistant i am. > >Like I say, you really need to know what you're doing first. You >don't want to get even more grief from your dad when his computer >won't work and you don't know how to get it going :-) > >Good luck! >Syd > > >_______________________________________________ >main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >http://www.alug.org.uk/ >http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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I see trouble ahead....
by Wayne Stallwood 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

http://news.com.com/2100-7337_3-5131787.html?tag=nefd_lede Bios maybe replaced by EFI and Microsoft are helping to develop it. Poorly written article but neverless, the thought that MS might have a hand in something like that is pretty scary. Also the bit about low level 3rd party drivers being loaded before the OS worries me. Naturally this will all be closed source and if two of the drivers don't play nicely how the hell will you be able to troubleshoot it. I'm all for ditching the BIOS as it stands maybe moving to something like http://www.openfirmware.org/, if it works for Apple and Sun then why not. But the thought of a platforms firmware being designed by that platforms most aggressive software developer is something that fills me with dread.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Linux support for CF card readers?
by Dennis Dryden 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

Anyone know if this: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X… ...is supported under Linux? I recently got given a cheap digital camera but it has no connection cable's so i'm planing to use an external CompactFlash Card reader. If anyone knows of any others that work that'll be nice to know =). I'm guessing it uses the standard USB mass storage interface but you never know. - Dennis Dryden

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Happy Christmas ALUGers!
by Nick Heppleston 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

Just wanted to wish everybody Happy Christmas, as it is officially the 25th. Hope you all get suitably stuffed tomorrow and have a great time whatever you are doing. Nick -- Nick Heppleston 07989 581766 | nickheppleston(a)gmx.co.uk

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Debian sarge
by Richard Lewis 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Hello List, Whats going on at the Debian project? Linux Format, in their January issue (p. 9), under the headline "Debian Woody reaches for the skies...", report that, "the 'stable' version of Debian Woody is nearing with the launch of a second release candidate", while Linux Magazine, in their January issue (p. 88), talking about the bugginess of the debian-installer, say that, "this would not have been a big problem, if the Release Manager, Anthony Towns, had not set December 1 as the release date for Debian GNU/Linux Sarge", and while packages.debian.org continues to be out of operation and the debian.org front page makes no mention of sarge going stable. Any ideas? Cheers, Richard

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Linux Kernel 2.6.0
by Craig 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Just went and installed this on my machine at work yesterday.. seems fine so far =D Ah.. this just reminds me of the days of 2.4 kernel. Except that I was testing the release candidate using Alan Cox's mad patch set which often froze my PII 233 box sometimes. Now I feel old...... C

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Has anybody got SuSE 9.0
by Wayne Stallwood 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

If so can they zip me across some cd's (for a fair fee) I need to see if the problem with installing 8.2 on Nehemiah based MiniITX boards has been resolved in 9. For those that may be thinking about installing SuSE (or is it SUSE now, I'm confused) on a MiniITX board, there is an issue with the Nehemiah chip, cpuid says it is a i686 compat, but it does not support the cmpxchg8b opcode, gcc assumes that anything above i486 can handle cmpxchg8b. End result is that suse 8.2's kernel (compiled for i586) will not run. Gahhhhhh I blame gcc as the IA32 documentation states that you should check before doing conditional moves,and that cmov implementation in the processor is optional. If anybody has a set they can copy for me (or lend if they don't have a burner) then it will be most appreciated. After a mail discussion between a few ALUG'ers (including myself) and a representative from SuSE (SUSE) it was confirmed that this was allowed (and even possibly encouraged) by SuSE within User groups (they even sent me some 8.2 media which I have sent to some ALUGers.) Failing that, if anyone has installed SuSE 9.0 on a Via M10000 without resorting to the install on another machine, recompile kernel and swap drive dance required with 8.2, can you let me know. Regards Wayne

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Asking Open Source hackers to develop for dollars?
by Keith Watson 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

So is this total sacrilege? or is that an over-reaction? Personally I can see anything wrong with this, what do you think? <http://www.open-mag.com/1125339824.shtml> Keith

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

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