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Re: [ALUG] Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

On Friday 04 Mar 2005 06:26, Owen Synge <owens.singh(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > > There seems to be an awful lot of other stuff in there that Slackware > > doesn't seem to need to provide the same apps, are all these > > dependencies really necessary? > What do you think? I find debian a good flexable OS, Would you ever ever > try rhythembox on a slackware box? Undoubtly it is, I've got the full set of CD's for 'Sarge' 13 Disks. Slackware comes on a 4 CD set two of whcih are source, extra packages and retired packages which may be needed by some, and the full Slackware Manual; on the Second disk is KDE and Gnome as they got too big to stay on the first disk with the rest of the distribution, in fact I it only needed the first disk, (to get a running OS with KDE and Gnome), when I started using it. As for Rythmbox, I'll have a lok at it and see if I can learn to use it, I might be getting to be too and drugged a dog to teach new tricks to, (I'm still trying to learn Emacs, and get mysql to start on and run on Slackware, permissions thing apparently but I'll get there). Thank you so much for your help Owen, Haven't seen you for years, literally. Not since a very hot meeting in Syleham one summer. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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RE: [ALUG] New Member
by Keith Watson 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

> From: David Reynolds Sent: 28 February 2005 14:27 > > Basically need. I need a server OS capable of doing what Linux does, but my > > desktop/laptop machines came with Windows on. Seems pointless to wipe and > > reload when Windows does the job. > > I felt the same, but on moving to Linux my productivity has increased > quite a lot. Especially when it comes to uploading files to servers, > using version control such as SVN. mmmmmmmmm... SVN!! :o) Keith

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Cross-platform video messaging
by Graham 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

Can anyone offer suggestions for hardware and software suitable for running point-to-point video messaging between Linux (KDE) and Windows? The aim, naturally, being to chat for hours with pictures and without incurring phone bills. I haven't been keeping up to date in this area. -- GT

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Job Vacancies in Manchester (Sale)
by Keith Watson 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

My firm (Kewill Systems) is recruiting at it's head office in Manchester (Sale). Not sure if this is the correct place to post this (sorry if it's not), but just in case it's of interest to anyone...... > From: Amanda Brandwood Sent: 04 March 2005 15:23 > > We are currently recruiting for the following vacancies at the Sale Office: > > J2EE Software Support Engineer > UNIX Systems Administrator (Linux) > Oracle Database Administrator > Experienced J2EE Developer > > > Should you be interested in this role, or know of anyone who > may have an interest, please visit the Kewill Intranet site > under the HR/Admin bookmark and look under Job Vacancies > where a copy of the relevant job description has been posted today. > > PLEASE NOTE THE CLOSING DATE FOR INTERNAL APPLICATIONS IS > FRIDAY 18TH MARCH 2005 Not sure what the closing date is for external applicants but if anyone is interested contact me off list and I'll forward a copy of the job description and contact details to you. Regards, Keith ____________ There is no here, no there. - Infinity is before our eyes. - Seng-T'san

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RE: [ALUG] Job Vacancies in Manchester (Sale)
by Keith Watson 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

> From: MJ Ray Sent: 04 March 2005 16:07 > Keith wrote: > > Not sure if this is the correct place to post this (sorry > if it's not), > > I don't think a high proportion of the list are looking for > new jobs right now and this isn't particularly Anglian, so > I'd suggest putting it somewhere else instead. As > http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq says: > > If you have a job to advertise then it also must be > Unix/Linux related [...], you also may > find that you will get a better response if you try listing at > > * http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs > Cheers MJ (next time I'll RTFF!! :o) ) Keith

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Re: [ALUG] Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

On Friday 04 Mar 2005 06:26, Brett Parker wrote: > As for gnome stuff, why not just leave it there? are you short > on disk space? Sometimes the Gnome apps can be of use (AbiWord and > Gnumeric spring to mind here). I could just never get used to GNOME, and I think it may be the visual impact rather than anything else. As for AbiWord and Gnumeric, both come seperately IIRC on slackware, indeed I am using AbiWord as the latest KDE word processor has an annoying glitch. thank you for your help, I now have a start point with which to break Debian, but I findI earn a little with every disaster. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

I have today looked back over the archives of the ALUG Main Lists. I see that I started, June-July 2001, with trying to get Mandrake to install, (new IDE cables cured the fault I seem to remember), but within that time I'd moved on to Red Hat, was pleased that it went in and worked didn't like it and had moved on to Slackware by December. Since then I've kept having tries at Debian. It was an ambition to get Debian installed, for the last week I've had it running and as long as one sticks to using KDE, there seems to be no recognisable difference between the two both stable both what I'm used to. I have however taken Debian out and re-installed the base system. I'd like to know if there is a way of getting what I have with Slackware, a text log-in for both user and root with the ability to switch to a GUI by using <startx>, and how does one get rid of the Gnome? There seems to be an awful lot of other stuff in there that Slackware doesn't seem to need to provide the same apps, are all these dependencies really necessary? -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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New Member
by Simon Marden 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hello People, New member to ALUG here. I am Technical Manager for Squeeze Your Mind Ltd, a web design agency based in Norwich. We've been trading for 3 years now, using Linux web servers, and producing our web sites using LAMP technology (the PHP flavour, not Python or Perl). Why do we like linux? Well, because of the very low initial costs of course. Personally, I am amazed by Linux on a daily basis. The things I can do with a Linux box, and for free, are astounding, and I'm blowing the OS's and the Linux communities trumpet here, not mine. Simon Marden SQUEEZE YOUR MIND LTD T: +44 (0)1603 437773 E: SIMON(a)SQUEEZEYOURMIND.CO.UK This message and its attachments (if applicable) is intended for the addressed recipients only, if you are not one of the intended recipients please treat this message as confidential and forward it to support(a)squeezeyourmind.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 27/02/2005

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Jonathan McDowell having difficulty with my posts to ALUG
by John Seago 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:25:16PM +0000, Jonathan McDowell wrote > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 06:48:13AM +0000, John Seago wrote something > that was in reply to an existing thread, but lacked In-Reply-To or > References headers. > > Can you fix your email client please? I originally thought KMail (which > is what your headers claim you're using) was broken, but there are other > ALUGers using it without breaking threads. It's much easier to read > lists when associated posts are kept together in my experience. I am indeed using Kmail, in fact the Kmail which comes with the KDE in Slackware 10.1 and I believe, Debian Sarge, both of which are installed on my computer. > It's been pointed out to you that you might be reading via a digest, Where, when and by whom? > in which case at least one of the digest options removes message ids. Is > there any chance you'd consider switching to a MIME based digest (which > I think should preserve a Message-Id header) or individual posts? You are right in assuming that I am reading, and writing in reply to, everything in the form of a daily digest, and, I had assumed, in plain text. I have, however, had a look at the seetings which inform me that there are two options MIME Compliant (Quoted Printable), which is the option set, or Allow 8 bit. There is a third possibility, I am broken, at waist level, and suffer from chronic pain. In the winter, when the pain is usually at its worst, I take quantities of drugs which have either been withdrawn from issue to new patients, fall into Class A, or are addictive. I had a bad year last year, and this cold winter has not improved matters. Pain and drugs diminish what little remaining intellect I had. so it may be that whilst I can remeber something, I will have difficulty in reading back to find it, sometimes such activity can be quite entertaining with the individual letters doing tiller girl routines across the page. I am, for about an hour after the regular doses, until they start to wear off about five to seven hours later, likely to be higher than a kite, either that or I am asleep. which is why you may find messages timed at 03.00 hrs as drugs have worn off before they were due to, and I am reading and replying to mail, until such time as I can have the next dose. Perhaps you could solve other problems I have with Digests, the FSFE digest arrives with each digest dated <Thu Jan 1 00:59:59 1970>. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Knighthood for services to... what?
by John Seago 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

I heard on the wireless today that the Queen has just given Bill Gates an Honourary Knighthood. I wonder who recomended that, and why? -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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