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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thurs Pub Meet 10th Jan
by Richard Lewis 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Dear ALUG, The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on * Thursday 10th January * at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy going early to eat) and coffee. I intend to be there from about 20:00. Others may be there earlier. We should have a table reserved at the back of the pub just to the left of the bar. We look forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis - UEA, MUS PG http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] Firefox
by Bev Nicolson 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

What happens now is that it crashes if I play a Youtube clip. Somewhere else it's suggested that you kill the application (is that the right term?) but how do I do that? (Seems a better idea than waiting for ages till it decides that Firefox is not responding and lets me know... sigh.) Thanks. Bev. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Nicolson" <bnicolson(a)operamail.com> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Firefox > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:54:31 +0100 > > > Well if this is so I'll hang on and upgrade. I do hope so - it will > make it all much easier/less painful! Thanks, Mark. > Bev. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Rogers" <mark(a)quarella.co.uk> > > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Firefox > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:21:14 +0000 > > > > > > Wayne Stallwood wrote: > > > The main problem you have now is your upgrade path is pretty complicated > > > because the supported path would be Dapper>Edgy>Feisty>Gutsy which is a > > > lot of effort (in reality it may be possible to skip some of those but > > > the official upgrade instructions are pretty clear in stating that only > > > an upgrade from the previous version is supported). I am hoping that > > > there will be a direct upgrade path between LTS versions so you would be > > > able to do Dapper>Hardy next April..But I wouldn't hold your breath on > > > that being the case. > > > > > > > My understanding is that this is indeed the case - 6.06LTS -> 8.04LTS > > will be supported in a single step. > > > > I couldn't find anything "official" in a quick Google but this is a start: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00756.html > > > > "Hardy will be a special release in this respect since we'll be > > support upgrading from both 7.10 and 6.06. It is not trivial, but it's a > > high priority for us." > > > > -- > > Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 > > Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Installing VYM version 1.10.0 |installing a .deb for the first time
by James Freer 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Running ubuntu 7.04 - wishing to install vym-1.10.0 (came out sept 2007). I can only assume that it wasn't early enough to be included in gutsy... had a look in the archives and was hoping i could install gutsy. As it seems a number of folk have had problems with gutsy i thought i would just stay with feisty [which has been fine with no problems so far]! I'd be grateful if someone could check that i'm doing the correct procedure! http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=127802&package_id=139… downloaded to desktop the file vym-1.10.0-18.i586.rpm [or should i use vym-1.10.0tar.bz2 and not convert to debian?] installed alien in terminal type $alien -c vym-1.10.0-18.i586.rpm # -c tells it to remove any installation or removal scripts [Should then have a .deb package?] $sudo dpkg vym-1.10.0-18.i586.deb [it can't be that easy - i wanted to check before i mess up somehow! What about other dependencies] thanks james

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apache security
by Chris G 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

I am trying to tighten up my apache security a bit. Looking at the "Security Tips" page in the apache documentation doesn't help a *lot* because it's mostly talking about a multi-user system where you are trying to make apache secure against the local users. My situation (like a lot of other Linux users I suspect) is that I am the only user of the system so, apart from my stupidity, local users are not a serious risk. The only local user knows the root password anyway! :-) What I'm after is making it so that the outside world (my router allows access for http requests) can only see the web pages that I want them to see. I also want it to be arranged so that I'm unlikely to mess up this security inadvertently. The one thing that the apache Security Tips suggests that does seem relevant to my situation is to do:- <Directory /> Order Deny,Allow Deny from all </Directory> instead of the default:- <Directory /> Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None </Directory> Which means that if I point a symlink somewhere stupid by mistake the outside world might access almost anything. Have I understood the above right? It certainly seems to me that what I should do is set things up so that apache can get at nothing and then open up specific directories. One other thing I want is to allow local access only to most of my web pages which is easy enough with something like:- <Directory /var/www/html/maxine> AllowOverride None Order Deny,Allow Deny from all Allow from 192.168.1 193.128.168.194 </Directory> and I'll open up (say) /var/www/html/public to allow 'all' access. Is it worth being this careful/paranoid? Is apache's security good enough for the above to be effective? -- Chris Green

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Gnomad2 is working with the Zen 4Gb
by Chris G 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Well I've got Gnomad2 working with the Zen now. I found that the latest Gnomad2 and the libraries required to support the Zen's MTP were in the Fedora updates-testing repository so all I had to to was add that to yum's repositories temporarily and it all installed without problems. Gnomad2 can now see the Zen and transfer MP3 files to it. It's a bit crude and simple but one huge amount easier to understand than the heap of rubbish that got installed on Windows. -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] nokia n800 etc
by mbm 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

MJ Ray <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> wrote: >Are Asus and Nokia equally bad at supporting software patents? >My impression is that Nokia are worse, but I don't know Asus much. I'm not sure what this means. Surely no Free/OSS advocate would wish to see software patents enforced? And unlike some other large corporations (BT is a good (bad) example) Nokia at least respects the GPL and other Free/OSS licences and refers to that fact in the documentation for the n800. See www.maemo.org. Mick

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Re: [ALUG] Creative Zen
by mbm 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Chris G <cl(a)isbd.net> wrote: >What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player. >Main requirement is to be able to download MP3s and put them onto the >Zen, it's not a requirement to be able to play them on the computer. >Podcast synchronisation would be a plus but lets try walking before we >run. Doing this on windows has turned into a disatrous mess. If all you want to do is synchronise then I'd recommend Gnomad2. I have also used Neutrino, but that can be flakey in my experience. However, I've stopped using the Zen because it doesn't support ogg vorbis. Picky, I know. Mick

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Recommendations for software to use with Creative Zen MP3 player
by Chris G 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player. Main requirement is to be able to download MP3s and put them onto the Zen, it's not a requirement to be able to play them on the computer. Podcast synchronisation would be a plus but lets try walking before we run. Doing this on windows has turned into a disatrous mess. -- Chris Green

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Modems and online backups: recommendations?
by Matthew 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Hi all, Apologies for mixing topics but I have two questions that don't really warrant separate mails. I'm having terrible trouble finding an ADSL ethernet modem. I currently have a regular home-office modem/router forwarding all traffic (with NAT) to the external interface of a Debian box with a soft firewall/router, but there's some SIP testing I need to do that would rather I had only one layer of NAT. Reviews at online suppliers generally seem to consider the Netgear DM111P and the D-Link DSL300-T to be troublesome, while the Draytek Vigor 100 is so expensive that it's something of a last resort. What is everyone else using to connect Linux firewall/routers to ADSL? Can I even rely on a modem to maintain a connection suitable for remote access? I'd prefer a PPPoA-PPPoE bridge to a USB modem, although I do have a Sagem F@st kicking around that I might try. Alternatively, if anyone has had any success getting a UK Speedtouch 530v4 into a bridging mode I could try that. I've found a lot about it on the forums of Australian ISPs but the UK version of the firmware doesn't seem to support it. The second one: Can anyone recommend an online backup/storage provider that supports sensible (non-proprietary) backup protocols (e.g. rsync over ssh)? Thanks, Matthew

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Migrating RH9 legacy system to VM
by Mark Rogers 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

I have an old (but still in use) RH9 system I want to migrate to a virtual machine. One of the main reasons for doing this will be performance: a database query on an internal website which is used regularly is taking 15s on the old hardware, where the same query on the same database on a virtual machine takes well under a second... The server is only used internally but all the same I want to minimise downtime. The "normal" method I'd use would be to shut down the hardware, take an image of the drive, restore it into a virtual machine, boot it, fix any problems (eg driver issues) as necessary. Depending how long that last step takes this could mean the system is offline for quite a while. I could create an empty VM, boot it to a live CD, and rsync the whole OS data from the old system to the new one, but I'm not sure which rsync options I'd need to use to make sure the user permissions copied across correctly (I assume that since /etc/passwd will be copied across it doesn't matter that the users don't exist initially), then make the VM's disk bootable, and take it from there; all of that I could do with the other system online and then fix the problems in the VM with the old system still online, ready to re-rsync later to catch up with any changes after shutting down all services like the database etc. But (a) I'm not sure how to make the VM boot and (b) I'm not sure what else would go wrong. Any suggestions? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0845 45 89 555 Registered in England (0456 0902) at 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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