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Anyone of the Ipswich inclination happen to have a PS2 keyboard I could borrow for a day or so?
by Adam Reid 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

Hello again all, I've now built said PC (with the card suggested, many thanks for that, although haven't been able to test it yet), and have finally found time to start the Ubuntu-ing process... but my USB keyboard is magically forgotten about as soon as I enter the install process proper (I'm using the alternate installer). I lack either a PS2 keyboard or the USB=>PS2 adapter, so to save buying another keyboard (apparently using an adapter won't always solve this issue, otherwise I'd just fork out for one of those) would anyone be willing to let me give a spare one of theirs a change of scenery for a day or so? Or I could bring it along to the meet for collection (along with a beverage of your choice) if it's not direly urgent that it's returned ASAP? :) Cheers all, ~Adam

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backups for the very unsophisticated...?
by Peter Alcibiades 30 May '08

30 May '08

Any thoughts or experience on a backup tool for a very unsophisticated user? Like, one who cannot really be trusted to copy in the right direction from a hard drive to a usb stick? Who is quite capable of thinking that the way to get rid of a file on usb stick is to move it to the desktop. A brilliant and intelligent person but with a tech blind spot who on the previous machine was used to backing up folders to floppies labelled with the same name as the folder, which worked fine for years, but the new machine has no floppy drive... And of course fewer and fewer external people will accept data on floppies now. I'm considering the following: One usb stick labelled backup, with instructions to only use it for backups and keep it in the same reasonably secure place. This would back up the /home/user directory in its entirety. The instruction would be: do this every Friday, or more often if lots of revisions have been done. kde keep for the actual backup tool. It seems simpler than the gnome one, pybackpack, though he is running Gnome. We need as few options as possible! A second usb stick to be used for carrying files around and transferring them to other people (in addition to email). Any other thoughts appreciated. These are mostly text files with some graphics, ie the volume is not huge. The home directory will fit on a 2G usb drive for the forseeable future. Al

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Moving firefox passwords between machines
by Ted.Harding＠manchester.ac.uk 30 May '08

30 May '08

Hi Folks, I've had an oldish firefox running for a few years one one machine, and have accumulatd a few dozen login username/passwords for various websites. I'm now doing most of my browsing using iceweasel on a new machine, and I'd like to "copy" all those passwords over to the new setup. Passwords are stored in encrypted form in a file signons.txt (old machine) or signons2.txt (new machine), and each is in a directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default, where the "xxxxxxxx" is a random-looking string (different between the two) and presumably serves as an encryption key. So I can't just copy signons.txt to signons2.txt -- it doesnt work! (tried it). One way, of course, is to trek through edit>preferences>passwords in firefox on the old machine, and get them up in the browser, unencrypted, and read them off when I need them. This of course is tedious! Any suggestions for how to port the lot from firefox to iceweasel? (I had no problem simply copying my bookmarks.html from one to the other; but then that's just plain text). With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 29-May-08 Time: 10:46:45 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] Bash commands
by Bev Nicolson 30 May '08

30 May '08

<<While I'm at it, though, if you type the bash command 'help' on the command-line, you'll get a useful summary of what's available. Then typing 'help <keyword>' for any of the keywords that come up will give a detailed breakdown of its usage.>> Thanks Ted. This is the sort of thing I'm after. I don't think I have the appitude to become a real geek! :¬) bev. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk > To: "Bev Nicolson" <bnicolson(a)operamail.com> > Subject: RE: [ALUG] Bash commands > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:15:54 +0100 (BST) > > > On 29-May-08 19:25:16, Bev Nicolso'll get a usefuon wrote: > > Still on the nursery slopes as far as bash commands I'm afraid > > but have, once again, realised how very useful they can be. How > > do you learn what to type in in any given situation, though? (I'm > > asking > > generally, not for any specific problem I have now.) > > Bev. (Ubuntu user.) > > Bash is quite a complex thing (as indeed are even the simpler > shell languages), though most usage will be fairly basic. > > And 'man bash', while useful for looking up something you know > you're wanting to use, isn't all that helpful for suggesting > what to do to perform a given type of task. > > While I'm at it, though, if you type the bash command 'help' > on the command-line, you'll get a useful summary of what's > available. Then typing 'help <keyword>' for any of the keywords > that come up will give a detailed breakdown of its usage. > > E.g. try > > help > help alias > > However, it looks as though you might need a "bash tutorial" > so enter that into Google (including quotation marks) and > you'll get several helpful-looking results. > > I thought that the one at > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html > > looked pretty good for the day-to-day stuff; and it has a > big brother at > > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ > > for more advanced stuff. > > Hoping this helps! > Ted. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> > Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 > Date: 29-May-08 Time: 21:15:47 > ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [ALUG] main Digest, Vol 35, Issue 34
by James Hayes 30 May '08

30 May '08

I have a Linoscan 1400 scanner(Umax 3400) that works with feisty fawn but refuses to work with Hardy Heron on my Apple G4 ppc any ideas 2008/5/30 <main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk>: > Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > main-owner(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of main digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Wayne Stallwood) > 2. Bash commands (Bev Nicolson) > 3. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (mbm) > 4. Re: Bash commands ( (Ted Harding)) > 5. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines ( (Ted Harding)) > 6. Re: Export emails (chestep) > 7. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Simon Elliott) > 8. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Rob Page) > 9. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (Simon Elliott) > 10. Re: Moving firefox passwords between machines (James Freer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:25:25 +0100 > From: Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Moving firefox passwords between machines > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <1212060325.11243.13.camel@digimatic> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:46 +0100, Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk wrote: >> >> Passwords are stored in encrypted form in a file signons.txt >> (old machine) or signons2.txt (new machine), and each is in >> a directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default, where the >> "xxxxxxxx" is a random-looking string (different between the >> two) and presumably serves as an encryption key. >> >> So I can't just copy signons.txt to signons2.txt -- it doesnt >> work! (tried it). >> > > Look at this thread..any help ? > > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2767968 > > You will also need to move key3.db afaik > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:16 +0100 > From: "Bev Nicolson" <bnicolson(a)operamail.com> > Subject: [ALUG] Bash commands > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20080529192516.7DBAE233D2(a)ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > Still on the nursery slopes as far as bash commands I'm afraid but > have, once again, realised how very useful they can be. How do you > learn what to type in in any given situation, though? (I'm asking generally, not for any specific problem I have now.) > Bev. (Ubuntu user.) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:40:42 +0100 > From: mbm <mbm(a)rlogin.net> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Moving firefox passwords between machines > To: ted.harding(a)manchester.ac.uk > Cc: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20080529204042.4a812202(a)door.rlogin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:46:50 +0100 (BST) > (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)manchester.ac.uk> allegedly wrote: >> >> I've had an oldish firefox running for a few years one >> one machine, and have accumulatd a few dozen login >> username/passwords for various websites. >> >> I'm now doing most of my browsing using iceweasel on a >> new machine, and I'd like to "copy" all those passwords >> over to the new setup. >> >> Any suggestions for how to port the lot from firefox to iceweasel? >> > > I've not tried this, but I just stumbled across it when looking for a > replacement for my (now broken under 3.0) trashmail.net addon. > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848 > > Mick > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a Microsoft free zone. Please do not send me Microsoft Word > Documents. For some reasons, see: > > www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >

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Re: [ALUG] Export emails
by chestep 29 May '08

29 May '08

Hi James Thanks for your reply and link re exporting Thunderbird emails, James. Ann

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Bash commands
by Bev Nicolson 29 May '08

29 May '08

Still on the nursery slopes as far as bash commands I'm afraid but have, once again, realised how very useful they can be. How do you learn what to type in in any given situation, though? (I'm asking generally, not for any specific problem I have now.) Bev. (Ubuntu user.) -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Export emails
by chestep 28 May '08

28 May '08

Hello Alug I made enquiries to the list some time ago about exporting emails from Firefox to a folder on a separate drive. I received several replies after which I downloaded an add-on and could export emails successfully. One responder was James (don't know any other details) who said he exported regularly from Firefox; I'm wondering if he (or anyone else) could comment on how well the Folder & Subfolder Structure copies, or the method they use. I find I often have to make separate folder on the target drive, then copy the emails into this, then it works well. Thanks

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Program to do pretty graphs of monthly network transfers
by Srdjan Todorovic 27 May '08

27 May '08

Hi all, I'm looking for suggestions for software that will draw some pretty graphs of the number of bytes transferred over an interface over the past day, week and month. MRTG (for eg.) only seems to do network speed monitoring. I'm looking into RRDTool, but I'm not sure yet if this is what I want. A very very quick look at ntop and iptraf suggests that it's for measuring transfer speeds, and not what I want. Basically I want something that's persistent across reboots and power-offs. Something that will tell me that in the past minute, I transferred 1MB, past 10mins: 10MB, past day: 12MB, past week: 1Gb, past month: 8GB. You get the point. Could be a command line tool, or ncurses interface. Nice pretty graphs would be a bonus (graphical toolkit on X11 or web-based solution). Has to run on Linux, and be at the very least, free as in beer. Anyone got any recommendations? Many thanks, Srdjan

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duff switch?
by mbm 27 May '08

27 May '08

This not strictly a Linux/OSS question (unless the fact that the router in question is running openwrt counts), but I ask because there are bound to be network experts here and I'm going crazy. I have an Asus WL500G wireless router connected to my DSL router. This lets me partition my network into two in a classic screened subnet architecture. Thusly: outside | [DSL]---------DMZ hosts------- | | | [ASUS] | | inside (both wired and wireless) DMZ net is 192.168.1.0, inside net is 192.168.10.0 As I said, the Asus is running x-wrt (a flavour of openwrt with a nice web interface on top). The Asus has 4 lan ports, 1 wan port and the wifi interface. I have the following situation: 1. No problem with wifi. Any and all wifi devices I configure can connect, they can see all relevant hosts (including my dnsmasq DNNS/DHCP server) and can reach the 'net. So all hunkydory. 2. No problem with any /single/ wired lan connection in any of the lan ports (i.e all is good to go as in the wifi connection). So again, all hunkydory (and it doesn't matter which lan port I use.) 3. But - as soon as I connect any second wired device to the Asus, I get connection failures (ICMP errors "Destination Host Unreachable"). Oddly, if I leave a device connected running a ping I get most traffic dropped (of the order of 90%) but intermittently I get connection responses. 4. Now the bit that really confuses me. If I now connect an external switch to any port on the Asus and then connect any new wired device through that switch, it all works fine. So - have I just got a duff switch in the Asus (and if so, why the hell does it work when I connect another switch)? Or should I be looking for something else? Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a Microsoft free zone. Please do not send me Microsoft Word Documents. For some reasons, see: www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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