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Android phones and Linux, any experience?
by Chris G 20 Oct '10

20 Oct '10

Does anyone hare have an Android based phone and use it with Linux on their desktop? -- Chris Green

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scanners part the second
by Bev Nicolson 18 Oct '10

18 Oct '10

Hmph. Not because Adam was right but because I have been trying to change permissions for this scanner (I need root permish) and it isn't playing ball. Nautilus claims I already have it. Terminal won't let me. (I've tried chmod) The scanner itself does work, btw but only when I fire up VueScan. Help, please. TIA. Bev.

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : McGintys, Northgate Street
by samwise 18 Oct '10

18 Oct '10

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back tonight, Monday 18th October, at 20:00: P J McGinty & Sons 15 Northgate Street Ipswich Suffolk IP1 3BY Tel: 01473 251 515 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP1+3BY WWW: http://www.pjmcgintys.co.uk/ McGintys pub is in the centre of Ipswich. It's directly opposite the town's central library and has a reputation for good Irish beer. We're usually to be found in the lowest section of the bar, near the library entrance to the pub. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Hopefully, see some of you there! Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [ALUG] Intel 2200BG wireless
by Richard McLellan 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

I got it all sorted now. I was using Mint Isadora on my laptop but changed over to Xubuntu and it works no problems in there.Thanks for the help on this.

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Kindles - Was Android Readers
by mark fernandes (IFR) 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

I can confirm that Kindles are good bit of kit. I've got cheaper version (without 3G) for work. Wifi and browser works well with limitations of e-paper (no flash - not necessarily a bad thing :-)) I go to lots of meetings for my sins and get issued with lots of docs (=76 pages of dead tree) and our group travel a lot (so baggage limits)- so am trying out Kindle as a solution to these probs. So far, so good - screen is really good, readable in bright sunlight (sadly less of a problem at the moment...). Used also to read my OU Maths course books (formulae etc quite clear). Only time so far I've had to charge battery was when it arrived - it's seems to get by with my USB transfers of books to feed itself. Also, can back it up that way as it is a 'standard' USB storage device on PC. Since you invited it Mick - You're a luddite :-) Seriously, I've always loved books but e-readers enable me to cart my library about when travelling, are searchable and so are v. useful. Both have their place. I've got problems browsing local HTML files and need a program to reformat 3 column scientific paper PDFs into e-reader friendly single column form but despite that am content with the device. See http://codingscience.blogspot.com/2010/10/kindle.html for the ups and downs so far Like so many things, e-readers are horses for courses - if it does what you need then that's the sweet spot. Been quite interested in the debate so far (Will especially try out the debug mode...) All the best, Mark Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton: Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts.

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Audio input for laptops?
by ted.harding＠wlandres.net 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

Hi Folks, Unlike desktop sound cards, which usually have a "Line In" socket for headphone/speaker output (aka "Line Out") from audio devices, most laptops seem to have only microphone input (though they do have "Line Out"). Now one can of course simply plug a mike into the laptop, play the audio device through speakers with the mike near the speakers, and record to the laptop that way. But it's not fully satisfactory, and one may need to experiment a bit before it's acceptable. (And you will need to move around silently, avoid slurping coffee or saying "b****r" when you spill it, and above all don't flush the loo ... ). So it would be nice to have a means of putting a cable between the "Line Out" and the mike input on the laptop, but I've not managed to work out a way of doing this! Does anyone have a good solution? With thanks, Ted. PS: I have just heard that the Good Lord has finally finished marking your exam papers (He has been having a lot of intray crashes, which tend to happen at times of high prayer input -- He shouldn't leave His admin to Archangel Gabriel, who seems to spend a lot of time just flapping around). Anyway, the result is that you have all got 10/10/10, on this date. Congratulations! -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)wlandres.net> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 10-Oct-10 Time: 19:02:51 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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[ALUG Announce] Alug Norwich 2nd Thursday Pub Meet 14th October @ The Coach & Horses
by Srdjan Todorovic 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Dear ALUG, This months second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on 14th October 2010 at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA http://www.thecoachthorperoad.co.uk/ ). The Coach and Horses offers food (really great burgers!), a good selection of real beer (including takeouts!) and reasonably good connections for travel and parking. There should be people there from 8pm (I'm hoping to be there from 6:30pm), hopefully I'll remember to bring my small foam Tux to aid people in recognising us. We are usually at the back of the pub. I look forward to seeing you on Thursday. Regards, Srdjan ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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IRC channel configuration change
by MJ Ray 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

I've had a request to give quinophex on #alug more admin power. I've not been there much, so I don't know the context/motive, so I'm emailing the list. Is everyone OK with that? On- or off-list replies OK. Thanks, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. Webmaster, Debian Developer, Past Koha RM, statistician, former lecturer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for various work http://www.software.coop/products/

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Just a quick shout out...
by Brett Parker 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

Has anyone heard from/seen Ruth Bygrave recently... I was recently hitting the archives and noted that we don't appear to have seen anything on list from her since Feb 2009. She was never a very active poster, but we did usually see a message from here at least once every 4 months, just want to check that she's doing alright. Thanks, -- Brett Parker http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ PGP Fingerprint 1A9E C066 EDEE 6746 36CB BD7F 479E C24F 95C7 1D61

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Intel 2200B/G wireless
by Richard McLellan 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

Hi folks, I have a Dell Inspiron with the Intel 2200B/G wireless card. After reading the destructions that came with the linux drivers, it goes on about building it with the kernel or something close to that. I have no idea what/how to do this. Would this have to be done regardless of linux version or might there be a linux version with these drivers already in the distro? ThanksRich

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Can one get rid of Desktop?
by Chris G 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Is it possible to get rid of the (IMHO) stupid Desktop directory and the concept that goes with it? If my screen is anywhere I want it to be my home directory, not ~/Desktop. I can delete ~/Desktop but it just gets recreated whenever I do anything like open a terminal 'here'. Why can't I just get a terminal to open at /home/chris when I right click on my screen? (Not to mention the silliness of all those directories like Pictures, Videos, etc. starting with an uppercase letter) -- Chris Green

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Co-lo and VM hosting
by Laurie Brown 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

We find ourselves in need to some tertiary DNS and other services, and am looking at either using a VM, or some co-lo. In the case of the former, can anyone on-list recommend a Linux-supporting VM company, either Ubuntu or Gentoo (the latter fairly important)? In the case of the latter, does anyone know and can recommend a local (to Ipswich) co-lo company with reasonable rates? Bandwidth is an issue in each case, as we need to keep the servers current, and there's a fair amount of traffic flowing through. Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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'ssh -X' doesn't seem to work, any alternative ways to do the same?
by Chris G 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

I'm currently away from home and I'm trying to get a GUI application running on a machine at home with the display here in N. Wales. Normally I would connect from the remote location using 'ssh -X' so that the DISPLAY environment variable would be set up to work through the ssh 'pipe' and a GUI app run on the remote machine (at my house) would use the display on the machine where I'm sitting currently (in North Wales). For some reason (possibly security on intermediate machines, this isn't a single hop ssh connection) the -X parameter in ssh isn't working for me in this case so I'm looking for alternatives. Can anyone suggest alternative ways of achieving my goal? The *real* aim is to allow me to get at my router configuration from here in Wales so I can change it to allow direct ssh access from this IP address. The router's web configuration uses so much bad/arcane javascript that you can't access it using lynx/links/w3m and the telnet access to its configuration is far too difficult to attempt to use remotely, the chances of screwing it up so that access is completely denied are very high. I have full root access to the server machine at home if necessary so can install/configure stuff as necessary, similarly at this end I'm running Linux on the laptop I'm using and can do whatever's needed. Thanks for any help and suggestions. -- Chris Green

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fetchmail and MS Exchange 2010
by Mark Rogers 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

I can't persuade fetchmail to collect mail from an Exchange server on our LAN (fetchmail and Exchange are both on the LAN). The errors I am getting are: fetchmail: Server CommonName mismatch: myoffice.mydomain.co.uk != 192.168.11.10 fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to get local issuer certificate fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: certificate not trusted fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to verify the first certificate fetchmail: Error exchanging credentials fetchmail: Authorisation failure on user(a)192.168.11.10 fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL) myoffice.mydomain.co.uk resolves to the office's external IP address, although I think (from Googling) that the first line is a warning not the reason for the failure. My fetchmailrc is fairly simple: set daemon 60 set invisible set no bouncemail set no syslog set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log poll 192.168.11.10 protocol pop3 username "user" password "password" mda "/usr/bin/rt-mailgate --queue general --action correspond --url http://localhost/rt/" no keep You'll see from the last line that I'm trying to set up Request Tracker (RT), and it needs to be able to collect mail from our office mailserver. This guy seems to have the fix: http://berqnet.blogspot.com/2009/11/exchange-2007-fetchmail.html .. but I don't know what he means by "the fingerprint of the Exchange 2007". [We've had nothing but problems like this since moving to Exchange, but it does a reasonable job of keeping Windows users in check so we're stuck with it.] -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Numbered Lists
by Richard Parsons 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hi folks, I'm trying to choose a good text markup language (e.g. markdown, restructured text etc). I want it to be able to deal with nested numbered lists. So something like this: # Dog # Kitten # Fish # Goldfish # Haddock # Elephant would produce something like this: 1. Dog 2. Kitten 3. Fish 3.1. Goldfish 3.2. Haddock 4. Elephant Anyone know a text format that would fit the bill? Many thanks, Richard

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Analogue bonanza
by Anthony Anson 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

The PDSA charity shop near the Norwich Bus Station has a table full of pooterbooks, new, but some of them admittedly have whiskers. At first glance there's not a lot which is obviously for Linuxoi, (I've had those innit), but there are piles and piles of useful-looking books on the multitude of programming tools. They've all been reduced from their oiginal prices to three squids, and from there to a pound, nicker, quid or oncer. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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Scanner woe
by Bev Nicolson 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

I've taken charge of my first scanner (a freebie from a friend) but I'm having trouble getting it installed. If I go to XSane it says "failed to open device snapscan :libusb:001:002 " . I have since installed every XSane extra there was via synaptic but it's still won't play ball. I'm very reluctant to give in though so how do I investigate what's up? And even more to the point, how do I fix it? It knows it's there I'm sure. [Ubuntu 8.04] Bev.

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Computery/Linuxy stuff for sale/free
by Adam Bower 03 Oct '10

03 Oct '10

Hi people, I'm having a bit of a clear out at the moment and have the following for sale/free, all stuff has to be collected from Little Plumstead which is about 5 miles East of Norwich. If you do want something email me offlist. Prices are rough guides to what I want, if you can convince me something is worth less than my guide price then I will quite happily accept it. Classic XBOX softmodded with XBMC = Free. Ok, there's a reason this is free, the dvd drive is sort of broken, it won't open unless you give the xbox a good thump on the top. Of course if you just want to use it as a network media player then this won't be a problem. I CBA to try and fix it, it comes with a controller and a couple of component video leads and the power lead. I no longer have the scart lead for it. This will also run linux if running on a 700Mhz pentium 3 with 64Mb of RAM is your thing. If it isn't claimed by 10th October it's going to the recycling centre. IBM Thinkpad X32 Laptop = £100 My trusty X32, replaced by a newer and faster (but much heavier!) model. This is a 1.8Ghz Pentium-M powered machine with 1GB RAM and a 160GB hard disk. It also has built in wireless lan and bluetooth. Comes complete with 2 power supplies (1 might be a bit temperamental and not always like giving power). 1 Car power kit so you can plug this into the 12V cigar lighter on your car and do your thang. 1 External CD-Rom drive and 1 Tom Bihn "Buzz" sling bag. It also has a Windows XP license key on the bottom and the Windows recovery disks if that's your bucket of biscuits but isn't something I'd recommend! The battery on this is roughly half good, last time I tried I got 2 hours of usage out of it but I won't guarantee that you will get that much out of it, also, it appears that either a thunderfly or bit of dust/dirt has got under part of the screen about 3cm up from the bottom in the middle of the screen and is a couple of mm long which is annoying but cosmetic. Currently this is running Ubuntu 10.04 (or will be when the install finishes). Was my main laptop for some years so almost exclusively ran Linux. Old AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Desktop computer = £70 This is a 2Ghz Barton core AMD Athlon, with 1.5GB RAM and 2 (yes count them 2!) 300GB IDE hard disks. It has a Ge-Force 6600GT 128MB AGP GFX card with extra zalman cooler on it, ASUS A7V8X motheboard, HP Lightscribe DVD Burner all wrapped up in an Antec Sonata 2 case which if you are of the alternate persuasion has a Windows XP license key attached to it so you can use software from the dark side. It also has a rather bling case fan with green leds on it (don't ask how it got there) and a Zalman quiet cpu cooler. At the moment it's not running any OS at all as I ran DBAN over both the disks. I reckon by having a quick look on ebay that if you parted it out and sold all the bits on ebay you could make a profit! Was my main desktop for some years so almost exclusively ran Linux but on retirement was used as my Windows test box. Thanks for reading. Adam -- New signature required, suggestions on a post card please.

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Re: [ALUG] Scanner woe SOLVED
by Bev Nicolson 02 Oct '10

02 Oct '10

Ignore this question now. It was as Peter suggested. Bev. (Who did check the manual before posting, honest. Sorry if I irritated anyone.) On 2 October 2010 09:34, Bev Nicolson <lumos60(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Another question. How do I unzip VueScan so that it is installed as a > program rather than a folder? (I have the bash command, btw.) > > Bev. >

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Problem playing AVI files, they don't play, just stick at first frame
by Chris G 02 Oct '10

02 Oct '10

I seem to have broken something on my system, I'm sure AVI files *used* to play OK. When I try opening them with either mplayer or with totem they just show me the first frame and that's it. With totem I can drag the time slider across and the movie plays so decoding would seem to be OK, it's just that it doesn't play automatically. Any ideas what might be wrong anyone? -- Chris Green

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Apache and chrome query oddity
by James Bensley 01 Oct '10

01 Oct '10

Luggers', I hope you are all well. I'm hoping someone out there will know what is wrong with an apache server I have. SSL is up an running, a .htaccess in the web root redirects all incoming http request over https. When someone browses in chrome to http://apache_server the index document (in this case index.php) is parsed to the browser as a download? If I browse to http://index.php I am redirected to https://index.php and it works fine, if I browse to just https://apache_server its fine, but http://apache_server isn't working, chrome just downloads the index page? What could this be, I'm no apache master, could it be a MIME miss-match between browser and server? -- Regards, James. http://www.jamesbensley.co.cc/ There are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand Vigesimal, and J others...?

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Unsetting bits using sed or similar?
by Mark Rogers 01 Oct '10

01 Oct '10

Help! I need to go through a text file, and for all lines similar to this: X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 .. I need to unset the 4th bit (so the above becomes 0001). Not all X-Mozilla-Status: lines which have the bit set have status 0009, however. I have 0008, 000b, 0018, and so on. Suggestions? Background: Somehow I managed to delete a load of email in Thunderbird which I need. It ended up in Trash so I moved it back to my Inbox, but for some reason it didn't appear in my Inbox, but did get deleted out of Trash. However by "deleted" I mean it set the 4th bit of the status word, so until I compact the folder I can recover it by unsetting that bit. I still need to work out why it didn't go back into my Inbox, I think I may have discovered a bug there. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Change of email address
by ted.harding＠wlandres.net 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Sending this for the benefit of any you who may have my existing email address (ted.harding(a)manchester.ac.uk) in their address-books. Apologies to all others to whom this may be irrelevant! Since Manchester University seem to have decided that retired persons no longer contributing to research in a Department shall no longer keep their email accounts, my existing email address will cease to function shortly. I have set up a new email address which is: ted.harding(a)wlandres.net (Ted Harding) The existing one (ted.harding(a)manchester.ac.uk) will still work for a week or two (possibly longer). If you have my existing email address in your addressbook, please update it to the new one. This message is being sent from the new address, so you may simply be able to derive the new entry directly from that (using some "add to address book" function). Thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)wlandres.net> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 30-Sep-10 Time: 19:14:49 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] Nvidia driver custom refresh rate
by Tim Green 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

On 28 September 2010 13:51, John Woodard <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> wrote: > root@Trigger:/home/bj# apt-get install read-edid > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > read-edid is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 540 not upgraded. > root@Trigger:/home/bj# read-edid > read-edid: command not found > root@Trigger:/home/bj# According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/read-edid, the command line tools are get-edid and parse-edid. Tim.

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Nvidia driver custom refresh rate
by John Woodard 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hi All, I'm normally pretty adept at figuring things out but this one has me stumped. Googling has sent me down many alleys most of them blind. I have 2 identical machines one with Ubuntu 10.04 the other with Windows 7 Ultimate. The run through a KVM switch to the same monitor using their on-board Nvidia Geforce 6100 graphics adapters. The monitor is a cheapo AOC 24" TFT panel which is adequate for my purposes, mainly general office stuff, accounting, surfing, email etc. This monitor is weird in that it requires a refresh rate of 61Hz rather than a standard 60Hz to give a steady display at its native resolution 1920x1200. In the Nvidia control panel in Windows it is easy to set a custom refresh rate, so no problem and a nice display. Ubuntu 10.04 however using the current proprietary driver from the Ubuntu repositories does not have the same facility, unusable display so dropping back to a non native resolution for the monitor is the only way to use the GUI. Back in the day you used to be able to hack your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and insert a new modeline to facilitate this but as far as I can tell this has no effect with the current incarnation of the Xorg server. I suspect the monitor is not outputting its configuration, data or something. I have removed the KVM switch and the problem still remains so it isn't that blocking the data from the monitor reaching the driver. Can anybody enlighten me on how to manualy do this and get the proper 1920x1200 resolution working @ 61Hz rather than the sole 60Hz option allowed by the Nvidia control panel? Cheers, BJ

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