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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by MJ Ray 11 Jan '01

11 Jan '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > What are there in the way of Linux games available? Well, I'm quite into simpler games, so these probably won't be to everyone's taste, but I enjoy XBlast and many of the libSDL games. Not much more advanced than your original consoles, but I find them fun. I don't think I've actually any games installed right now. I must put that right. -- MJR

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Introduction and question
by Andy Cartwright 11 Jan '01

11 Jan '01

Hello, A brief introduction followed by a question. I am new to this list but have been using Linux on and off over the last 3 years. My current system is PIII 667Mhz, 128M RAM Dual booting with Win 98SE and SuSe 7.0(Professional, an amazing boxed set). Now my question concerns the 64M recognition limit, I have added the line mem=128M to the append line in the LILO configuration section of YAST1. When I interrogate with top or the K memory utility it tells be that I have 64M RAM. Have I done something wrong or is it one of those things where the software is wrong ? Many thanks in advance Andy Cartwright P.S. May be a bit out of date now but I have the boxed set SuSe 6.0 with manual boot disks etc. I have the new V7.0 Pro so have no need for 6.0, it is free to any good home if anyone can make any use of it.

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Different Installs (2 Plain Text)
by Kerin Westgate 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Hi I was reading my mail this morning when I noticed someone suggest getting views of what other people thought of the different Linux installs that are about. I,ve now installed Mandrake 7.1 RH, on a Advent P111 450, 128mb memory, Aopen BX mother board, this is sheared with the dreaded Windows 98, as I have just added a seconded 10gb H/Drive I have set things up as follows, Drive A (6gb)____________Partitions hda1 (c drive) Windows 98__3gb hda6 /usr/local___________ 1.3gb hda7 /usr/data____________1.4gb hda8 /usr/spear___________2.0k Drive B (10gb) hdb1 /root________________1.6gb hdb2 (d drive) Windows 98___4.9gb hdb7 /usr_________________2.7gb You may ask why I only made root 1.6gb for some reason this was the maximum I could go. I found the DiscDrake that came with Mandrake very good and easy to use, which if you have backed up anything you don't want to loose, is then less nerve-racking if things do go wrong. As it happens nothing did. After rebooting with the Mandrake CD still in, you are faced with a very nice Installation screen that guides you through process of installing Linux, from choosing your language right through installing lilo and setting up the x server, the whole process didn't take to long either. you also have the options to upgrade from a previous Mandrake (quicker to reinstall) or selecting a Automated installation if you have never played with Linux or partitions before. As a newbie I would recommend Mandrake to anyone, its very quick and more important the ease of install was very good. As a newbie its hard for me to get more experienced users to understand, that when they talk about command lines, we don't always know what you are talking about, so many Linux users started with bbc basic or similar, we didn't we've started with windows and have grown up with nice user interfaces, so please be patient with us. Cheers And a happy and prosperous new year Kerin.

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Re: [Alug] saying hello
by Syd Hancock 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Thank you all for the friendly welcome. I feel better about moving to east anglia already (even if I'm not the member who is furthest away :) I too have found linuxprinting.org to be very useful - I have just bought an HP 840c. Not yet installed under linux though. I will be glad to let you know how I get on with the multiple installs although Jenny's plan of getting to know one distro well is probably more sensible! Syd

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Re: [Alug] UK Linux Day
by MJ Ray 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

Steven Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> writes: > I know nothing of LinuxCare. I know little of them, other than they are a linux support company who employ some high-profile people and have been hurt by the dotcom downturn. All from the Linux press, really. > Not having been to an installfest before, what do we disclaim? > Responsibility for any data loss or damage to hardware we install on? Bingo. Especially as we're intentionally setting out to lose data in many cases ;-) > My diary is free at the moment, though it may not stay that way. Coo, care to organise a meeting or event? ;-) > UEA would be fine with me, though I could do with intructions on where > to go once having got to the gate - from what I remenber UEA is a > large site. Don't worry, I doubt you'll be able to miss it. It will probably be in one of the entertainment venues anyway, but there will be posters etc on the day (done a bit more officially than usual). -- MJR

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UK Linux Day
by MJ Ray 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

A UK Linux Day has been suggested for Sunday 29 April. The main backer so far is LinuxCare, who will act as co-ordinator and take out advertising to support the event, and other tentative support includes IBM and RedHat (although I'm trying to get some latitude on that, as I don't recall there being many ALUG RH experts/fans). The main event would be an installfest, with appropriate disclaimers and support materials. Our contribution would be our time and the payoff should be increased membership numbers. Hopefully by that point, we should have awoken from hibernation anyway and things can get going for 2001. Are we up for this? Any comments to feed back to lug.org.uk and LinuxCare? Shall I start trying to get one of the main venues at UEA (Hive or LCR)? Would we want to be based at UEA again, somewhere else, or at multiple centres? -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] saying hello
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

Yes, Welcome Syd. (I'm new myself anyway.) What distro's have you tried so far? I'm still coming to grips with red hat on an old cronky box at home, networked to a windows machine, and at a laptop at work which I'm trying to get up and running on a network. (Yes, still not there with the pcmcia, but getting closer!). I'm getting curious as to what some of the others are like, though, especially as I have a couple of freebie discs at home, - slackware, corel, debian - all waiting to be tried sometime. I thought it would be better to get completely familiar with one first before looking at the next. Kerin - are you related to Brian on this list? Just nosey. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] UK Linux Day
by MJ Ray 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > Do you think we should/could organise a meet before this, Syleham maybe? Definitely. Probably two, if someone else would step forward to arrange it. I have basic artwork and other support materials available to me now. -- MJR

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Printers, was Re: [Alug] saying hello
by MJ Ray 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

"Kerin Westgate" <kerin.westgate(a)virgin.net> writes: > found the install very good including the partitioning, one problem I do > have and that is I'm unable to get my printer (Epson 480) to work as its not > yet supported, do to the chip in the cartridge. I did spend Sunday night I've just bought a new printer, the Canon BJC-1000, and found http://www.linuxprinting.org/ a useful assistance, including their scripts for getting it up and running. Sadly, the Epson Stylus 480 is classified on that site as "paperweight", sharing no features with the other Stylus printers before it, and people's comments have been quite biting. A nice tweak which I shall document Real Soon Now is setting up a printer called "fax" which allows me to send faxes from any application. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] saying hello
by MJ Ray 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

Syd Hancock <sydhancock(a)compuserve.com> writes: > My current project as far as getting to grips with linux goes is to > install several distros and try them out for a while. So far I have > partitioned the drive and hopefully discovered what to do next. Here > goes, fingers crossed. Please let us know how you get on. Once the website gets kicked into shape (Martyn, are you out there?) then a (unbiased?) newbie's experiences with some distributions would be ideal material to link into it. I know traditionally people here advocate either Debian or SuSE (is that right?), but broadening horizons would be good. -- MJR

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saying hello
by Syd Hancock 09 Jan '01

09 Jan '01

Hi All, I discovered this list and signed up this morning. I am a total newbie and only installed my first distribution a few weeks ago (Storm Linux, Debian based) although I have been lurking on some usenet groups and reading 'Running Linux' beforehand. At present we do not live in East Anglia so you may wonder why I have joined - well, there is a strong possibility that we will move to the Norwich area soon for family reasons - in-laws and grandparents living nearby. My current project as far as getting to grips with linux goes is to install several distros and try them out for a while. So far I have partitioned the drive and hopefully discovered what to do next. Here goes, fingers crossed. I've kept this very brief but am very happy to talk more about the details (system, distros etc) if anyone is the least bit interested! Best wishes to all Syd Hancock Brittany, France.

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OT: Landcrab in Monte Rally (Definitely OT!)
by Laurie Brown 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

Not exactly LUG-related, I know, but a lot of you know me, and a few will remember me discussing this car before... Just FYI for any readers of this group in the Ipswich area. Cheers, Laurie. ---- cut here ---- Support Coping with Breast Cancer (Charity Number: 1022588) On Sunday 14 January 2001, A 1971 Wolseley 'landcrab' 18/85 MKIIS will leave Brooklands bound for Cannes as part of the 2001 Winter Challenge, the 12th annual re-enactment of the legendary Monte Carlo Rally using cars which were eligible for the 1968 Monte or earlier. Driven by Laurie Brown, navigated by George Potter, with Geoff Jardine as third man, it will arrive in Cannes on Friday 19 January after many miles of gruelling driving, navigation, driving tests and timed regularities on mainly unclassified French roads, and across the Alps in winter. The car has been totally re-built by George Potter: there isn't a part, panel, screw, nut or bolt that hasn't been looked at, repaired, restored or replaced. Rally-prepared, the car will be on display at the Woolpack Inn, Tuddenham Road, Ipswich on Saturday 6 and Sunday 7 January. You can support the charity either by making a donation or entering our "Guess the Total Mileage" competition. The closest guess to the total mileage to and from the Woolpack will win a bottle of vintage champagne (other prize donations welcome!). Entries accepted in the Woolpack until 11pm Friday 19 January ---- cut here ---- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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pcmcia question
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Jan '01

04 Jan '01

Greetings, all. Can anyone give me a pointer here? I have spent weeks trying to work out how to get my laptop connected to a home network. I have RH6.2 running on a Toshiba satellite, and have bought a buffalo 10/100 pcmcia, which uses pcnet_cs driver. What I have done so far: Edited the /etc/pcmcia/config file to include the card type, as per instructions that came with card. Edited /etc/conf.modules to include alias eth0 pcnet_cs options pcnet_cs io=0x300, irq=5 I then changed the io=0x300 to io=0x254 after looking up pcmcia entry in /proc/devices. /etc/pcmcia/config.opts shows to exclude 4,7 and 12, and to include port 0x100-0x4ff, port0x1000-0x17ff When I boot up the card gives a high beep and a low beep. I get the message that it can't find the net address. If i do an ifconfig eth0 i get an error fetching information message. I can ping using loopback but any other address on my local network gives network unobtainable. Networking is turned on, can't bring eth0 up, i think addresses are in ok. I'm booting with the card inserted. Can anyone see anything i have done that is glaringly obviously wrong? Cheers, Jenny.

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Singapore Linux Conference 2001 (fwd)
by MJ Ray 01 Jan '01

01 Jan '01

Anyone wanting to travel? ;-) Eeek re paper date, though. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 03:57:09 -0600 From: Sanjeev Gupta <ghane(a)dotxtra.com> Subject: Singapore Linux Conference 2001 Dear Sir, I would appreciate your circulating the message below on your mailing list. The SLC, first held in 1999, is organised by the Linux Users' Group (Singapore), in collaboration with IDG, which runs LinuxWorld Expo. Last year, some of our speakers included Mr Robert Young, Red Hat; Mr Robert Chassell, Free Software Foundation; Mr Theodore T'so, IETF; Chip Salzenberg, OSI; as well as senior staff from IBM, SGI, and Intel. We also conducted Tutorials on Samba and Perl Extensions, among others. We typically aim for two tracks, Business and Technical, with some Speakers having slots that cut accross both. This year, I also hope to organise a Debian BoF meet. FIRST CALL FOR PAPERS Singapore Linux Conference / LinuxWorld 2001 March 21-24 2001, Singapore This annual conference and expo, started in 1999, aims to draw world-renowned experts in the exciting field of Linux and showcase the state-of-the-art in Linux and Computing in the IT hub of South-East Asia, Singapore. In this third edition, we plan a conference which will focus on the growth of Linux as a broadly available and used platform. CONFERENCE Papers are invited for presentation during the Conference, which will be held on Thursday, 22nd, and Friday, 23rd March. Following last year's success, there will be two tracks, "Business" and "Technical". The topics below are meant to indicate the possible variety of areas, they should not be regarded as exhaustive. * Productivity Tools and Suites * Multimedia enhancements * Internationalization and Localization * Beowulf / High Performance Computing * Distributed Computing * Life Sciences * Embedded Linux * Linux PDAs * IPv6, and "personal" IP addresses * B2B Ecommerce * Security: DoS attacks using innocent third parties * Security in General * Network Trust * Open Standards: What value to the user? * Wireless Technology * Mobile Computing * IP telephony (Truly everyone at everywhere!) * Linux in Education * The Linux Community * Diversity in the Linux Demography * LUGs' Experiences * Software Licencing * The Open Source Movement Prospective authors are requested to submit full papers for review. Electronic submissions are strongly encouraged through email. Hard-copy submissions are also permitted, and three copies of the manuscript should be sent to the address below. You may like to take a note of the following dates - Submission of full paper - 5th January, 2001 Papers will be rigorously reviewed by the Technical Program Committee, and reviewers' comments will be relayed to the authors on request in the interest of transparency. TUTORIALS Tutorial Sessions will be held on Wednesday, 21st March. Tutorials have a strong technical bias, and are intended for a more mature audience, in terms of Computing and Programming exposure. Prospective tutorial speakers are invited to submit proposals to the Conference Secretariat. Each proposal should include: * a summary * a course outline and * a brief biography of the speaker. Proposals complete with the required documents should be sent to the address below. CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS Sanjeev Gupta 40 Kaki Bukit Place Singapore 416218 email: ghane(a)dotxtra.com Tel: +65 9855 1208 Fax: +65 7494434 All correspondence will be acknowledged. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Introduction
by MJ Ray 01 Jan '01

01 Jan '01

"Tony Cook" <idiamin(a)idiamin.plus.com> writes: [...] > should be very greatful as I believe I could then overlay the 2.2.16 modules > with the 2.2.14 set and thus get Win4Lin running correctly and > interconnecting with my system components, noteably my printer and > soundcard. This may well work for *some* modules. Another answer has already pointed you to the SuSE downloads... -- MJR

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Introduction
by Tony Cook 27 Dec '00

27 Dec '00

I apologies for flooding your e-mail but I would like to introduce myself as a new member. My real name is Tony Cook, I adopted the internet handle of idiamin because the late entirely unlamented gentleman was the only person I ever heard of who was without doubt more self centered, egotistical and a bigger idiot to boot, than I. My computer set up is a Gigabyte AT board carrying an AMD K6/2 500 CPU with a SoundBlaster 128 and a Voodoo 3 graphics card and I have 128M/B of ram plugged in at the moment while my H/D is a 20GB unit which seemed enormous when I bought it but which is now beginning to be a little confining. I currently dual boot Win98 and Linux. Win98, with which I am reasonably familiar because it gives me access to a cheap parallel port scanner, if anyone knows or hears of a scsi emulation which will allow Sane to co-exist with it please let me know together with games, mostly old, which are either not available or comparatively cost a lotty under Linux. For the future however I plan to migrate my more serious interests, D.T.P. and graphics manipulation to Linux with the impact of adapting to new software being lessened by loading Win4Lin from Trelos. As far as Linux is concerned I am a complete newbie and to be frank I find getting used to it to be a bit challenging. My home computing background originated with CPM and the Spectrum, progressed to the Amiga and dos in emulation and then to Win95 native on a PC. At the moment I am still fumbling my way around the Linux CLI structure and trying to forget I ever knew dos. I have tried several Linux distro`s, Mandrake 7.1, Red Hat 7.0 and Suse 7.0 before finally determining on Suse 7 Pro as my system of choice largely due to the excellent documentation available and the, (Comparatively easy and reliable installation). I nearly threw a rock through my monitor when grappling with Red Hat, and Mandrake though initially very good revealed bugs in operation with which at my current level of experience I could not resolve. The only specific problem I currently have centres around Win4Lin for which there is currently no specific Kernal is yet available for Suse 7.0 although 6.4 is supported. I gather from Trelos that support for 7.0 is in the pipeline however. Incidentally support is currently available for both the other distro`s I have. According to the manual, which I have read, there is very little change between 6.4 and 7.0 apart that is from the compiled modules which are of course not interchangeable. If anyone were in a position to supply me with an evaluation copy of the basic Suse 6.4 system I should be very greatful as I believe I could then overlay the 2.2.16 modules with the 2.2.14 set and thus get Win4Lin running correctly and interconnecting with my system components, noteably my printer and soundcard. Best regards, compliments of the season and apologies for rattling on,

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Re: [Alug] Another New Member
by MJ Ray 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

kerin <kerin.westgate(a)virgin.net> writes: > ManDrake 7.1 but for the life of me, I can not get my dam printer to > print anything, the printer is a Epson 480, I don't get any error > messages, and if I do lpc, status, I get, queuing is enabled, printing > is enabled, no entries, no daemon present, and that's after sending a > test page, It's as though there is a code missing to switch the > printer on, as it's a auto on/off. It seems that the 480 is a bit of a swine and isn't that similar to most of the other Epson printers, which combined with Epson's refusal to provide good docs means it isn't supported just now. To quote: Unfortunately, this printer has some odd quirks that make it more difficult to support than other Epson Stylus printers. Epson also has not been willing to release the command needed to allow changing the printer cartridge; therefore we had to drop support for this printer in the stp driver. on http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/epson-list/2000q4/000045.html Might be worth reading around that list a little. > If any one could help it would show the spirit of the Linux world Hrm, you been bitterness and cynicism about certain manufacturers who will release neither drivers nor the details we need to create our own? ;-) > Kerin. > > Paul Shorter wrote: > > Hi Everyone, Please don't include other unrelated messages. If you're replying, please trim the included message and write replies beneath the quoted parts. That's fairly quick to do and makes it a lot nicer for all. Thanks :-) -- MJR

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New Member
by Kerin 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

Hi I just received a e-mail from yourself, I like Linux very much and would like to get involved a lot more, it's a lot more fun than Windows As a newbie I don't really know what i'm doing, maybe you could help though, I've sent up ppp, networking, between my Advent 450 Piii pc and an old Tiny 386 sx all works fine its been good fun, I'm running ManDrake 7.1 but for the life of me, I can not get my dam printer to print anything, the printer is a Epson 480, I don't get any error messages, and if I do lpc, status, I get, queuing is enabled, printing is enabled, no entries, no daemon present, and that's after sending a test page, It's as though there is a code missing to switch the printer on, as it's a auto on/off. If any one could help it would show the spirit of the Linux world Cheers Kerin.

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Another New Member
by Paul Shorter 18 Dec '00

18 Dec '00

Hi Everyone, My name's Paul and I'm a Linux fan. Well, that's the confession out of the way. I work for an engineering firm and I look after several Linux servers, including our email server which runs Sendmail. We use RH 6.2 here, along with Samba to support the Windoze clients. We used to use NetWare 4.11 but it crashed more times than a zx81 with a wobbly ram pack, so I ditched it. My main duty is email admin, so if anyone out there wants to swap horror stories, especially regarding Outlook as an email client, i'm game. Cheers, Paul.

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Where are you Ipswich people??
by cepi x 16 Dec '00

16 Dec '00

Somehow, all Linux-Magazine and Linux-Formats get sold in Ipswich within days and here hasn't seen yet an Ipswich Linux user...where are u guys...wake up...stop me on the street :--)...just a tought CEPi UCS Ipswich Software Engineering __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: Where are you Ipswich people??
by Deana 16 Dec '00

16 Dec '00

Hello Jenny. I'm quite new (well, six months or so) to Linux, and getting ready to evict Mr Gate$ machinations from my primary hd. You can get lots of help from the PCPlus forums (nntp.futurenet.com) in the linux.beginner newsgroup, and have a laugh on pcplus.test Good luck. -- Regards, Deana deana(a)linuxfan.com

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Re: [Alug] Where are you Ipswich people??
by David Freeman 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Bear in mind the large campus place on the east side of ipswich has a high consentration of techies. In my office alone about 8 people are hardened linux users. Extrapolate that over the 5000 people on the site it must be a few hundred people. Thats probably where there all going. D --- cepi x <cepi77(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Somehow, all Linux-Magazine and Linux-Formats get sold > in Ipswich within days and here hasn't seen yet an > Ipswich Linux user...where are u guys...wake up...stop > me on the street :--)...just a tought > > CEPi > > UCS Ipswich > Software Engineering > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Where are you Ipswich people??
by MJ Ray 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > I was wondering what level you guys are all on....I'm a newcomer, and hope > that I'm not going to waste anyone's time posting idiotic questions. Oh, there's a whole range of us, I think. There aren't enough newbies for my liking, though, so I'd encourage anyone to tell any linux-trying friends to invite them to join the mailing list. > I'll probably lurk for a bit and try and assess the level you are all on, - > are there any others out there who are beginners? I'm sure there are. I've been using Linux for work and at home for a while now, but I still get shown up by these people who actually know what's going on in the internals ;-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Where are you Ipswich people??
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

>where are u guys...wake up...stop > me on the street Hello All. I've just joined the list, I'm from Burwell (near Newmarket), I work in Cambridge. I know very few other linux users, none in the area. Burwell newsagent doesn't even stock linux magazines. Tsk. I was wondering what level you guys are all on....I'm a newcomer, and hope that I'm not going to waste anyone's time posting idiotic questions. I'll probably lurk for a bit and try and assess the level you are all on, - are there any others out there who are beginners? Jenny.

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De-Lurking - An Introduction
by Steven Fosdick 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Hi all, I discovered the Anglian Linux users group shortly before the last meeting back in August but unfortunately other commitments prevented me from coming along. I've been lurking on the list since then and have been meaning to get round to writing a short introduction ever since - finally I have. I first became interested in computers when I saw a Sinclair ZX80 which the maths teacher at secondary school used to demonstrate some simple number theory. Shortly after that I received a ZX81 as a present and on that I learnt Sinclair BASIC and then Z80 machine code (without the benefit of an assembler). From there I moved on to a BBC Micro and learned its variety of BASIC, 6502 assembler, BCPL and Pascal. I now work for BT at Adastral Park, their advanced technology centre at Martlesham and it is there that I was first introduced to Unix when I was given a tape of HP-UX 6.2 and asked to "install it on one of our machines and see what it could do." At the time the PC was becoming popular and it was probably just before Windows 3 was released. I was immediately impressed with Unix (HP-UX) - it seemed to be a proper operating system with real virtual memory, powerful utilities, and a proper scripting language and, if you wanted a GUI, there was the X window system to go on top. I have continued to work with HP-UX and more latterly with Solaris too both as a SysAdmin and as a Developer using C, a little C++, Perl, Unix shell script and PL/SQL (Oracle), HTML and Javascript. I've also done a little development on the PC running Windows (and DOS even) using Visual Basic, Visual C++, C and Assembler. During the same time I witnessed the Internet take off in a big way, remembering when we persuaded one of the gurus on site to set us up with e-mail using uucp over a 19200 serial link back to their server which had 64k capacity to the rest of the net, getting a news feed and finding that just about everything got discussed there without censorship, the emergence of the WWW with early versions of mosaic, and up to the present where everyone can't wait to set up a web site and people at home have almost as much bandwidth each as we started with for 2500 people. I was first introduced to Linux by a contractor at Martlesham who had it running on his Laptop. I had already met some of the GNU tools and if the Linux kernel was to the same quality I knew that Linux as a system would be good. I was very impressed with Linux but sadly, although Linux was small and efficient, the hardware of the day was no match for the X window system and I went back to using the commercial unices on bigger hardware. Since then PC hardware has improved dramatically and more recently I found that Linux had become the focus of most Free software development for Unix like systems and that increasing numbers of people were running it at home. We had just received a talk at work from Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and author of emacs, and gcc IIRC) and he recommended the Debian distribution so I tried installing it. For someone who already knows about disk partitions etc. and has installed Unix before it presented no difficulty and I now have it running on my PC here at home where I've used it for capturing and editing video and audio as well as e-mail, surfing the net, writing minutes etc. Whilst Windows in it's various flavours still has much more software available than Linux, and that may never change, it nevertheless seems an exciting time for Linux as more generally useful software becomes available (rather than just developer tools) and makes it more useful to your average joe. So back to the user group, I hope that I will be able to help some of you out and at the same time receive help and broaden my knowledge in areas of Linux I have not yet explored. Unfortunately the IRC meets are at a time that I usually can't make but if I get the chance I'll drop in and if not I hope to see some of you at the next physical meeting. Steve Fosdick.

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Getting rid of a Linux boot loader
by Ashley T. Howes 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

Some time ago I installed the Storm Linux distribution (it's based on top of Debian). However during installation, it overwrote my master boot record with its own loader (brings up an vga graphic choice between linux and windows with Storm branding). Since then I have removed Storm Linux, formatted the hd, but the loader remains. I was wondering how to get rid of the boot loader, or in some way overwrite it with another? Any hints are appreciated. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Web Developer Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com "They think they've beaten us. We smile and say, welcome to the Next Level"

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["crazy" <chris@gimmel.com>] job feedback - help appreciated
by MJ Ray 13 Dec '00

13 Dec '00

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Re: [Alug] The end of an era...
by David Freeman 13 Dec '00

13 Dec '00

--- Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> wrote: > David Freeman wrote: <snip> > > > > D > > IDL seem to be a special case, and are emphatically not BT. They are, > and I'm not being big-headed here, cherry-picking the best. If you're > up > for it, and are a good IT professional with relevant Internet > experience, with good breadth (not just depth), then I'd be happy to > put > you forward. IDL are very actively encouraging personal referrals, > knowing, I suppose, that we won't risk putting knob-heads forward. > They > seem happier with people of a certain age (I'm 44), and are sceptical > of > whizz-kids. Both the people I know who work for IDL were headhunted from inside BT. and both are holding GURU status in alot of areas of IP/programming/unix etc... Unfortunatly like you said they take the mature end of things I'm not in the best situation (age 18) Maybe one day :o) Good luck Thanks D > Cheers, Laurie. > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Laurie Brown > laurie(a)brownowl.com > PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Moving on
by Andrew Savory 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Hi, As you may already know, as from tomorrow I will no longer be working for UEA. Whilst my account will work for a little while yet, can you please update your address books to use my new address - a.savory(a)btinternet.com Thanks, Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory not at uea.ac.uk : All views are my own - who else would want them? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Alug] The end of an era...
by David Freeman 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Not easily from outside. Depending on what you want submit your CV on bt.com and they will pick it up when they want you. A bit of a pain really. Not sure if this applies to IDL or not. Thanks D --- Joe Frost <joe_frost(a)omnis-software.com> wrote: > > I've taken a job as a senior technical consultant with a company > called > > Internet Designers Ltd., one of BT's BrightStar incubations. The > job is > > fantastic, and gives me the chance to carry on with my Linux work, > > alongside the experience built up after 27 years in the IT world. I > > start at Adastral Park, Martlesham on Monday 18 December. Gawd help > me! > > Stonking salary, share options, paid holidays (YES!), no managers, > > working in a technocracy, and so on, I simply couldn't refuse it... > Is there a way to keep an eye on jobs that are available at Adastral > Park? > > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] The end of an era...
by David Freeman 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Congratulations, Lucky sod. I have a few friends which work for IDL, it seams a good place to be and pays well. Good luck (you should be based about 100yrds from me!!) D --- Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> wrote: <snip> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Paul Tansom <paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> writes: > I can't comment on VA as I don't work for or with them, Smoothwall > is an independant project. As for *new* LUGs, the Smoothwall > project is not involved with any attempt to setup new LUGs, it is a > GPL dialup router/firewall project. Again, a separate issue if > anyone involved with Smoothwall is involved with LUGs new or old. > Personally I consider myself involved with UK LUGs - again a > separate issue to Smoothwall, although had that is how I became > aware of it at its inception! Would some of the Smoothwall project team like to visit the ALUG-IRC meeting a week on Monday to present it, answer a few questions, clear the air and show the project in a good light? So that would be 18 Dec 2000 at 2000 +0000, I think. (Yeah, I'm just itching to use the IRC question bot) -- MJR

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music - network - linux
by d.casal 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Neil Newman wrote: >for what it's worth, I run redhat 6.2 on my wearable >(http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/), I'd be really interested in seeing specs for your wearable. I've been looking at MIThrill and a variant of Xybernaut's...how much did you have to scale RD 6.2 to fit? MJR wrote: >Read the hardware HOWTO and www.alsa-project.org to find out if your >sound card is well-supported. support for the soundblaster range is definitely documented, and debian lists seem to think that as long as it's only SB16 to SBLive! it should be ok, thanks for the pointer. >Debian's own installation howto isn't bad, but remember there >are lots of people around UEA to lend a hand if you hit problems. Read the how-to, made the first wave of disks, tried them both on the NT box and the ancient thinkpad I'm trying to turn into wearable goo, so far so good. Now though, I can't really afford the download time for debian full over 56k (30 more like) dialup. A.Savory mentioned that Brett might be able to help with passing a CD of it to us...would that be possible at all? Would anybody else have the time if Brett can't? Anyway, thank you both for your help, off to read more Debian lit. cheers, david casal

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Re: [Alug] Getting rid of a Linux boot loader
by cepi x 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

lilo -u /dev/hda or in my SCSI system sda or whatever letter u got......it worked for me a fiew times cheers CEPi --- Brett Parker <b.parker(a)uea.ac.uk> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:06:07AM +0000, Ashley T. > Howes wrote: > > Some time ago I installed the Storm Linux > distribution (it's based on top of > > Debian). However during installation, it > overwrote my master boot record > > with its own loader (brings up an vga graphic > choice between linux and > > windows with Storm branding). Since then I have > removed Storm Linux, > > formatted the hd, but the loader remains. > > > > I was wondering how to get rid of the boot loader, > or in some way overwrite > > it with another? > > > > right, if you've got DOS you can use: > fdisk /mbr > > which will kill the MBR. > > Not sure how you'd do it in nux, have never (yet) > needed to. > > Hope that helps, > > Brett > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] 3com ethernet cards
by David Freeman 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

I Have always used 3Com Cards with Linux, In every box I have used one it has worked just fine straight away, it seams 3Com cards give me the least hassle of any that I have tried. HTH D --- "Ashley T. Howes" <ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net> wrote: > Final question for today :) > > I am planning to purchase a 3com ethernet card for my Linux box > (Athlon 650 > - PCI card required). I know some of you have bought 3com cards in > the past > and was wondering what the best option was for Linux support. > > I have tended to use NE2000 compatible cards in the past, but > recently heard > that they put more load on the CPU than they are supposed to. So I > thought > a change to 3com would be best. Any pros or cons I should be aware > of in > using 3com ethernet cards with Linux? > > Thanks again for your help. > > > Ashley > > > Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD > Web Developer > Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com > > "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep" > > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: Get ready for the 12 Days of WHISKAS
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

12days(a)12daysofwhiskas.co.uk writes: > You have been sent this e-mail because your friend Terry Filby thinks you > may enjoy the 12 Days of WHISKAS Web site. Terry will cease to be anything approaching a friend if he keeps feeding email addresses of people he knows to spammers. [...] > To unsubscribe from the 12 days of WHISKAS click on > http://www.12daysofwhiskas.co.uk/unsubscribe.asp. What a surprise, that website is down. Complaint filed. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Getting rid of a Linux boot loader
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Brett Parker <b.parker(a)uea.ac.uk> writes: > Not sure how you'd do it in nux, have never (yet) needed to. In general, lilo -u, I think, but I suspect that won't work in this case. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Options for mounting drives across ethernet
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

"Ashley T. Howes" <ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net> writes: > I was wondering about options to connect 2 Linux boxes together over > Ethernet, so I could mount the filesystem of one machine on another. I was > wondering what options are open to me to do this? I know of NFS. Are there > any systems which can cache the files pulled over the connection, so if the > same file is requested twice, it is only pulled over the network once? Do > the machines both need IP addresses to do this (either private or real), or > are there different way to address the boxes (using the ethernet mac address > for example)? I think most of the "next generation" of network file systems will do the sort of thing you describe, with various other performance caveats (eg it needs a sizeable cache). I'd suggest you start by looking at CODA, but when I last tried this around a year ago it wasn't yet usable. Any reason for not giving the machines IP addresses? It makes it a lot easier than using the ethernet cards raw. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] ["Jo Denton" <jdenton@sybex.co.uk>] Fw: Sybex books
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> writes: > Indeed. Where was the delay, and how can we unblock it for the future? Between my ears. Send a shotgun to... -- MJR

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3com ethernet cards
by Ashley T. Howes 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Final question for today :) I am planning to purchase a 3com ethernet card for my Linux box (Athlon 650 - PCI card required). I know some of you have bought 3com cards in the past and was wondering what the best option was for Linux support. I have tended to use NE2000 compatible cards in the past, but recently heard that they put more load on the CPU than they are supposed to. So I thought a change to 3com would be best. Any pros or cons I should be aware of in using 3com ethernet cards with Linux? Thanks again for your help. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Web Developer Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep"

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Re: [Alug] music department - linux - etc.
by MJ Ray 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

"d.casal" <d.casal(a)ntlworld.com> writes: > What I think I need, from reading the debian site: > A Devel_comp setup with X11 (planning for sound) and Server_std. Will > promise to do my homework on install docs and sound setup, but need pointers > + - miracles to start this well... Read the hardware HOWTO and www.alsa-project.org to find out if your sound card is well-supported. Depending on whether you're using the standard kernel drivers or ALSA, the setup will vary a bit. Unless something changed, the ALSA package in debian is a little out of date. Debian's own installation howto isn't bad, but remember there are lots of people around UEA to lend a hand if you hit problems. Back everything up first, though. -- MJR

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music department - linux - etc.
by d.casal 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

Hey/ An e-mail exchange with andrew savory where I asked questions on linux/sound/cocoon+xml(xslt), went something like: (me)<< > -where do you think I should start as far as distributions? slackware seems > too hardcore, mandrake seems to give you 5000 apps I don't need...I'm > looking for a fast, stable, server system for sound and network tasks, > pretty much only...though X11 will be needed, since my unix skills aren't > that good at all. (a.savory)>> I'd go for Debian. It's a bit of a beast to install, but worth sticking with as maintenance is a dream. and... (me)<< > I really could use some advice on this, + any references to books, dists on > CD you may have lying around, etc. Hope I'm not being to cheeky there, but > Jonathan Impett (new guy at MUS) is plotting little nets of penguins talking > sound at each other, and it would be great to build a couple as test > boxes... (a.savory)>> Sounds cool - best bet is to email the alug list and ask someone to burn a CD for you. Brett is usually pretty happy to help in that respect. so anyway, I've read this list for a while (never active, anonymous coward like), earlier attempts with redhat 5.x etc thwarted by lack of unix know-how, though managed sound and a couple o' apps...back again to try (hopefully for good) and build a stable sound/networking box, then a first version of PC-104 or hacked laptop based wearable with a smaller, (maybe Work_std?) debian installation to run scaled down sound + net applications, which will form part of ARiADA (advanced research in aesthetics in the digital arts)... I really need all the help I can get, basically. What I think I need, from reading the debian site: A Devel_comp setup with X11 (planning for sound) and Server_std. Will promise to do my homework on install docs and sound setup, but need pointers + - miracles to start this well... people directly involved and/or about to be: j.impett(a)uea.ac.uk (music faculty) m.dixon(a)uea.ac.uk (researcher, ARiADA, SARA, music department) d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk (me, codemonkey helper for the above projects, XHTML, SMIL, etc) pseudoshark(a)netscapeonline.co.uk (edward.kelly(a)uea.ac.uk postgraduate researcher @ MUS) any help at all will be greatly appreciated. cheers, david casal

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Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

Paul Tansom <paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> writes: > I can't comment on VA as I don't work for or with them, Smoothwall is > an independant project. As for *new* LUGs, the Smoothwall project is > not involved with any attempt to setup new LUGs, it is a GPL dialup > router/firewall project. Again, a separate issue if anyone involved > with Smoothwall is involved with LUGs new or old. Personally I > consider myself involved with UK LUGs - again a separate issue to > Smoothwall, although had that is how I became aware of it at its > inception! Your project manager appears to have a real problem with keeping his various roles apart. The Smoothwall website mentions *both* VA and a project to start a new LUG. While it makes it clear Smoothwall is not a VA project, it does no such thing about SUK-LUG. It may surprise you that some southern English LUGs are taking this combined with Richard not answering requests for material as offensive. OK, it shouldn't surprise you, but it may ;-) -- MJR

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[Denny <denny@concretecow.com>] UK LUGs useless?
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '00

06 Dec '00

What that LinuxUK/SmoothWall comment was about. Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:00:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Denny <denny(a)concretecow.com> To: MK LUG <mk(a)lists.lug.org.uk> If you read the recent announcement on www.linuxuk.co.uk about the release of SmoothWall, you will note that the author is less than impressed with the amount of help he has received from people in the UK LUGs. There are a few replies on there from people (myself included) who run LUGs, but I thought it might be good if a few LUG members wanted to comment also? Have a read and see what you think of his opinions... please try to respond intelligently, not in a confrontational manner. Regards, Denny # Denny De La Haye # Milton Keynes Linux User Group # denny(a)concretecow.com # info(a)mk.lug.org.uk # www.concretecow.com/denny # www.mk.lug.org.uk -- MJR

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Linux Modems
by David Freeman 06 Dec '00

06 Dec '00

http://www.scan.co.uk/today.htm has this today Introducing the Smartlink PCI Modem from SCAN - 56K V.90 Its 101% Linux Compatible. A truly Hardware PCI Modem with the new Topic Chipset. As we all the usual DOS - Win'95-98-NT4 & Win-2000 usage, this is only one of very few that specifically caters for the LINUX operating systems. This is the modem the Linux community has been talking about and asking for! So... we made one! This is a True PCI hardware modem - no more CPU overhead - this modem has consistently given the best performance in testing. Usual features include Fax - Accelerated Video - Voice - & Data. All Voice / Fax / Data Software included. �29.00 Thanks D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '00

06 Dec '00

Paul Tansom <paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> writes: > be the LUG/Community liaison for the Smoothwall project - Mark/MJR go easy on > me I've read the LinuxUK site ;-) I've no problem with SmoothWall or VA wanting to work with LUGs. I do have a serious problem with them setting up *new* LUGs because groups they haven't talked to haven't helped them. Sorry, but the telepathic networking device isn't working yet... Anyway, more VA involvement in the increasingly competitive UK Linux arena would be better for all concerned. I'll be glad to see it at last. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] [Denny <denny@concretecow.com>] UK LUGs useless?
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '00

06 Dec '00

> Have a read and see what you think of his opinions... please > try to respond intelligently, not in a confrontational manner. Yah, yah, do as I say, not as I do. -- MJR (Owner of the rambling rabid and sleepy post saved by somehow being factually accurate.)

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IRC meeting reminders
by Adam Bower 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Hi all, I forgot again as usual about the weekly irc meet, would it not be useful to others (not only me) if someone setup a job that emails the list every monday around 4-5pm'ish as a reminder that the meet is taking place, where it is etc? I could do it from a box at work but maybe the list admin (Savs or Mark?) would have a better way of doing it? Adam

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Comedy: [freeserve.help.unix] Re: Linux newsgroup problems
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Well, it entertained me ;-) Perhaps there's a deeper message in there, or perhaps there isn't. From: "Charles Kerr" <charles(a)skywalker.ou.edu> Subject: Re: Linux newsgroup problems Newsgroups: freeserve.help.unix Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:25:28 -0600 In article <87ofytqlbw.fsf(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk>, "MJ Ray" <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > "Garry Knight" <garryknight(a)bigfoot.com> writes: > >> I was going to try it one day, but I downloaded the latest >> version of Pan (0.92) and it downloads articles direct from the >> news server like greased lightning. Well worth the upgrade. > > That's new in 0.92? Boy, what did it do before? ;-) Downloading articles from the news server is new in 0.9.2 -- in 0.9.1 and older, you had to telnet directly into port 119 and get the messages yourself and then feed them into Pan, which would often thread them correctly. It's also great to see that Garry is also using Pan's new "post" feature! I had worried that the fourteen-step process would be too complicated but it seems my fears were groundless. In addition to all this innovation, the next version of Pan will have a spam filter code-named "delete key". To find out more, visit our website at http://www.superpimp.org/ -- "Mate, its gonna be ok. I have seen the future, and she likes Louis Prima." -- Tom Whore -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> writes: > I could do it from a box at work but maybe the list admin (Savs or > Mark?) would have a better way of doing it? No, I'd just be lobbing it in cron, too. Anyone got a better idea? -- MJR

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["Jo Denton" <jdenton@sybex.co.uk>] Fw: Sybex books
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Three weeks on and this goes out by mail rather than on the website. Useless. Hope you enjoy the article and if anyone wants to act on this (almost certainly too late), just let the list know so we don't get too many people claiming to be ALUG's rep. From: "Jo Denton" <jdenton(a)sybex.co.uk> To: <uklugs(a)lug.org.uk> Subject: Fw: Sybex books Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:13:45 -0000 Our world respected and best-selling author Craig Hunt is coming to the UK early Dec (he will be appearing at the linux user conference), and I would really like to see if we could do something exclusively with your members -- a workshop, or talk for example. I know the 6th Dec is now only 3 weeks away, but I'd be happy to design and print leaflets by the end of this week for us to distribute to your members. Because I'm keen to develop our relationship and work with you in the future, are there any other ways you can utilise Craig's knowledge and skills during his stay? And if you could advise me of when your Developer's conferences are next year that would be a big help so I can budget our involvement. Best wishes, Jo Denton ================= Linux DNS Server Administration (Craig Hunt Linux Library) By Craig Hunt ISBN: 0-7821-2736-3 Interview with Craig Hunt July 2000 How did you get started in the computer industry? Twenty-five years ago I took a programming job writing financial applications. Most people would not think writing billing and accounting programs was very exciting, but I loved it. It wasn't the subject matter, because in truth it didn't take me long to move on to other more advanced programming problems. What I loved was the creative act of building a new program. As I moved from programmer to system programmer to network designer and finally to chief of a network research organization, I never lost my love for the creativity that underlies all of computing. How did you get started working with Linux? For many years my professional career has been focused on Unix. The PC I had at home was little more than a terminal I used to login to the Unix system located in my office. I wanted to have Unix at home on my PC. I started by putting a free version of BSD Unix on my PC. However, I quickly discovered that Linux could support more types of hardware and that it had a larger, more vibrant community of supports. I switched my home system to Linux and soon replaced my office system with a Linux system. What has kept you working with Linux? The creativity that I love about computing is a palpable presence in the Linux community. Linux is built by a worldwide group of creative people who contribute to the development effort for the sheer joy of creating something worthwhile. Every time a new version of Linux is released I'm surprised by the quality of the software included with the system. Linux gives me everything I want in an operating system. Until something better comes along, I intend to stick with it. What does Linux offer that other operating systems do not? Linux offers many things. Here's just a few: Linux offers the same proven network services as Unix. Whether you build a Domain Name Server, an e-mail server or a Web server with Linux, you will be using the most widely used and tested server software on the Internet. Linux offers PC hardware compatibility that is comparable to the hardware support offered by Windows NT. PC hardware device drivers are generally available for Linux before they are available for Unix Linux is Open Source Software, which means you get the source code for the entire operating system. Because the source code is available to everyone, third party support for Linux is excellent. Third party support personnel can know as much about the Linux system as any Linux developer. Also, Linux does not have the "registry barrier" you find in Windows NT. All configuration files are human readable text that lends itself to automation. Linux is available free of charge. It is possible to use Linux in non- profit organizations where the cost of software is a significant barrier. Linux is extremely reliable. A system crash is unheard of. Also it is highly available. Installing application software upgrades does not require a system restart. How do you think Linux will evolve? Right now commercial customers primarily view Linux as a platform for network services. That will change as more college students who are familiar with Unix and Linux enter the workplace and choose Linux as a desktop. In addition to these new Linux-savvy customers, Linux vendors, particularly Caldera and Corel, are working to make a desktop Linux that appeals to a mass audience. Linux is also moving into embedded applications and dedicated systems. I think Linux will play a big role in the upcoming surge of Internet information appliances. What resources do you use to keep abreast of new Linux topics? (sites, journals, etc.) I read the Linux Journal, which is my favorite Linux magazine. I also visit the abundance of good Linux Web sites. Starting at www.linuxworld.com is a good idea because it has links to a very large number of other sites including www.linux.com, www.linux.org, slashdot.org, www.freshmeat.net, lwn.net and www.li.org, all of which I use. What other topics do you write about? I have written books about Unix and about Windows NT. All of my books are intended for system administrators and all of them focus on networking servers. My book TCP/IP Network Administration, O'Reilly, 1998, is a good example. How did you get started as a computer book writer? Ten years ago I was teaching a short course on TCP/IP networking at a local college. I accepted an invitation to speak on the same subject at a Usenix conference. An editor from O'Reilly & Associates attended my talk and asked if I would be interested in writing a book on the subject. Since I couldn't find a decent book for my college course and I had already written a 250- page course workbook on the topic, I accepted the offer. Little did I know how much more difficult it would be to write a real book than it was to write a course workbook! Is writing a full-time job for you? If not, what's your "real" job? Writing has just become my full-time job, at least for the next year or so. I recently left my full-time job to dedicate myself to creating high quality technical books about Linux. Over the next year, I will be working with other authors to create a comprehensive line of books for Linux system administrators. Linux DNS Server Administration is the first book in this line, which is called the Craig Hunt Linux Library. Until October 1999, my real job was network research at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. I came to the research side of NIST from the operational side where I was a system and network administrator and the head of the network engineering group. What do you think makes a good computer book? In my field, system and network administration, a good book needs to respect the knowledge and skill of the reader. These readers are not amateurs. They are computer professionals. Perhaps the specific topic is new to them, but not the subject of computers. The writer must assume the role of a mentor in a particular field who is explaining that field to a respected colleague. A good book explains why things are done and how the underlying system works. It doesn't waste time explaining simple tasks that the professional reader can grasp without any explanation. A good book has more content in 600 pages than a poorly written book has in 1000 pages. In your opinion, how does the Craig Hunt Linux Library series differ from other books on the same technologies? The books in the Craig Hunt Linux Library differ from other books about DNS, Samba, sendmail and the other technologies by maintaining a consistent format and focus. The focus is clear. It is on Linux and Linux alone. This gives the Linux system administrator more accurate information than they would get from a book that tries to cover every variety of Unix. It also creates a "cleaner", well-organized book that does a better job of telling the story of the underlying technology. The consistent format across the line of books helps the system administrator know what information is contained in each book and where to find it. This is a great benefit for Linux administrators because, at present, no comprehensive line of Linux references exists that has a consistent design and consistent goals. When Linux was a hobbyist operating system this didn't matter. Now that professional administrators use it for mission critical applications, it needs proper documentation. What did you find to be the most challenging aspect of writing Linux DNS Server Administration? The most challenging part of writing Linux DNS Server Administration was developing the logical structure of the book. DNS is a complex subject that can be made even more complex by a book that lacks a logical flow. Linux DNS Server Administration has a logical structure that takes the reader from an understanding of the underlying protocols and architecture to mastery of advanced server configurations. Once the structure was developed, the text flowed logically from that structure. What do you enjoy doing in your spare time? While writing Linux DNS Server Administration I had no spare time! But when the pace is not as hectic I love to travel and enjoy the outdoors, splitting time between the mountains and the sea. When I'm at home I love to listen to music, which is something I can do when I'm writing. If money weren't an issue, what job would you like to have? An author; I love to write. It has the same creative energy that first drew me to programming. And I like to think I'm good at it. What are your thoughts about the computer industry and where it's heading? The days of monolithic, "one-size-fits-all" solutions are fading. I love the general-purpose computer system that does anything I want it to. But for others, this type of system is too complex and many of its features are unnecessary. Many people would prefer a network appliance that performs a single dedicated function: a device that you simply turn on and it works. These appliances may be the next growth area for the computer industry. =========================== PRESS RELEASE London, August 30, 2000--- Sybex, International announces the release of Linux DNS Server Administration, by Craig Hunt, the first book in the new Craig Hunt Linux Library. Designed to provide seasoned Linux administrators with the most complete, advanced DNS information available, the book provides step-by-step techniques, and clear examples to illustrate both standard and complex Linux skills. Linux DNS Server Administration can be found at online and retail stores for £29.99. The author, Craig Hunt, is a noted TCP/IP and Linux expert who lectures regularly on topics at the Networld+ Interop, ComNet and other networking trade shows. He is known for his thorough understanding of the Linux kernel and his outstanding ability to communicate it to an audience. Other books include Linux Network Servers 24seven and the upcoming Linux Apache Web Server Administration also from the Craig Hunt Linux Library. (TCP/IP Network Administration from O'Reilly & Associates) The Craig Hunt Linux Library is an eight-book set that provides in-depth, advanced coverage of the key topics for Linux administrators. Craig has identified the key elements of the Linux Operating system that require extensive knowledge to master and turned them into references that show administrators how to configure, maintain and troubleshoot their own Linux networking environments. Other books in the new series include Linux Apache Web Server Administration, -- available October 2000 Linux System Administration, -- available November 2000 Linux Samba Server Administration, -- available November 2000 Linux Sendmail Administration -- available February 2001 Linux NFS and Automounter Administration -- available March 2001 For more information, contact Jo Denton, Marketing Manager at Sybex on 020 7604 3769 or email jdenton(a)sybex.co.uk -- MJR

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JOB AD
by MJ Ray 03 Dec '00

03 Dec '00

Does anyone mind job ads here? If so, I'll stop sending them on and we can all read linux-jobs.co.uk or similar. Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:42:04 +0000 To: uklugs(a)lug.org.uk From: Frederick Frank <frederick.frank(a)legn.com> Subject: Business wishing to submit to user groups. To whom it may concern: The company I work for is seeking a Linux administrator. If you consider that your members/subscribers might be interested in this opportunity, I would be grateful if you would forward it to your user group mailing lists. Below is a copy of my proposed submission. Thank you for your attention. Regards, Frederick Frank. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Legion seeks Linux administrator. Legion Ltd. is the world's leading expert in using scientific methods to plan and design large public environments. We have recently installed ADSL, a Linux firewall/mailserver and a central Linux server on a small (10 users) network of Windows clients in our London office and are looking for a network administrator. The local network will grow to 15-20 in the next six months and there is potential for a broader remit involving an international IT infrastructure within 6-12 months. Work would include: - Setting up file shares; - Internet connections; - Public & private web sites; - E-mail; - Firewalling; - Printing; and, - Back-up configuration & scripting. Remuneration would be in the order of £20k-£25k. Experience required. Please could those interested in an interview submit a CV and covering letter by email, fax or post to: Frederick Frank Legion 22-26 Albert Embankment London SE1 7TJ Tel: 020 7793 0200 Fax: 020 7793 8948 Email: frederick.frank(a)legn.com -- MJR

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News
by MJ Ray 01 Dec '00

01 Dec '00

| | W | A | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/11/linux_bash.html L | L | | | -- MJR

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Missing person
by MJ Ray 27 Nov '00

27 Nov '00

I wonder why they want him? From: Andrew Akhurst <andrew.akhurst(a)itconnections.co.uk> To: "'uklugs(a)lug.org.uk'" <uklugs(a)lug.org.uk> Subject: Help! Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:46:01 -0000 Hi I'am not sure if you can help, but would be grateful if you can. I am trying to locate a Linux Developer by the name of Mike Armstrong, I have some information that I would like to share with him. All I know is that he works for a Linux development company in the South East. Thankyou for your help. Andrew Akhurst IT Connections Ltd Bedford Business Centre Mile road Bedford MK42 9TW Telephone:01234 405504 E-Mail:andrew.akhurst@itconnections.co.uk Facsimile:01234 405508 URL http://www.itconnections.co.uk

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Mandrake 7.2
by Deana 27 Nov '00

27 Nov '00

Apologies that in previous postings I never quite got the hang of replying to existing threads. Regarding previous posting on Linux Mandrake 7.2 install, I should have looked more closely rather than trusting the installation routine. Pine, fetchmail, etc *were* included, but for whatever reason were never copied over. In my 6th and absolutely final attempt with this distro, I ignored "complete" installation, let the install routine present me with the choice of available packages, and chose "everything". This worked. (Hours of fun now stripping out what I don't need.) On another note, nice to see WH Smiths at Yarmouth take both Linux Format and Linux Magazine, and that they sell out so quickly - so where are all these Yarmouth Linux users? -- Regards, Deana deana.day(a)btinternet.com

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Re: alug digest, Vol 1 #96 - 3 msgs
by Deana 21 Nov '00

21 Nov '00

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, you wrote: > I finally got around to installing > KDE, and it ran like an utter pig. Warning: do not believe people who > tell you that a P200 with 32MB of RAM is enough for KDE :) Poor old > drmanhattan thrashed itself to death, it was awful... > > Aq. Yes, I have KDE 2 courtesy of the Mandrake 7.2 boxed set. The only real improvement seems to be the addition of Konqueror. Unfortunately, I'm having to use it from the Gnome desktop or Enlightenment, since Kicker (the panel) crashes with a SIGSEGV error every time KDE starts - I'm on my fifth re-install and the same bug occurs every time. While I think about it, anybody contemplating an upgrade to LM 7.2 for the sake of KDE 2 might want to wait until Mandrake have got it right. Several packages are missing or missed even on the "complete" installation (fetchmail, of all things, being one, no sign of Pine at all, no Enlightenment), KOffice is crude, and the LM installation itself bizzare - 5 installs on the same empty 13gig drive have managed to throw up five different configurations. Oh, and the Helix Gnome (1.21) upgrade wipes the existing Gnome, but the installer fails before completion - I tried this at work just to make sure it wasn't me. Overall, all I got for £30 was Konqueror and more hassle than was really worth it. You might have had better luck, of course... -- Regards Deana

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 6
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '00

21 Nov '00

Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > aaww ;)..well, just for the record, I have a P200 with 64Meg and kde2 > runs smoothly > moral of the story, you don;t need a fast processor, just (a little) > more memory... More memory, more memory... hrm... this sounds like what I was trying to get away from by using Linux ;-) MJR (currently running sapphire 0.15.x CVS as his desktop)

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 6
by David Freeman 21 Nov '00

21 Nov '00

I had a problem with my old suse install where it took weeks to boot up and do anything graphical. The fix was to recompile the kernel minus the bits I didn't need. I am currently runnning a AMD K6 200 with 32mb RAM and KDE runs fine. I have had every thing removed from the kernel bar what is needed to boot up and the rest is put in as modules, makes a lot of difference to the speed. Thanks D --- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > > > aaww ;)..well, just for the record, I have a P200 with 64Meg and > kde2 > > runs smoothly > > moral of the story, you don;t need a fast processor, just (a > little) > > more memory... > > More memory, more memory... hrm... this sounds like what I was trying > to get away from by using Linux ;-) > > MJR > (currently running sapphire 0.15.x CVS as his desktop) > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Netscape 6
by Deana 20 Nov '00

20 Nov '00

Hello all. I have Netscape 6, and even though I knew it would be buggy it was hardly worth the download. Mozilla M18 is very stable (if lacking in plugin support), but for some reason passing the mouse over animations on certain sites causes them to disappear. KDE's Konqueror is excellent, though lacking in features. I think this is the one to watch. -- Regards, Deana

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Change of ISP
by terryfilby 18 Nov '00

18 Nov '00

>From today, I have changed my ISP from m02we400(a)cwcom.net, please alter your records. Thanks Terry

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by David Freeman 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

All, I have finally got internet access under linux. The final fix was a play with the routing table and all works fine. This email is being sent from linux. Thanks to all who helped me with this problem. D --- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > > > when I type route it displays the headings of the route table and > then > > stops. > > Use "route -n" to avoid doing DNS lookups? > > > where can I find displayed the settings for DNS and default > Gateway? > > route tells you gateway settings and DNS names are in > /etc/resolv.conf > > > I use peanut Linux. > > I think that's based on an old Slackware? > > > Should... I intend to set up my own internal network and run ppp on > > demand with a firewall etc... but as yet can't get ppp working. so > at > > the moment the network card isn't even connected to any cables. > > So you almost certainly don't want a gateway on that network just > yet. Can anyone who has done this recommend a good tutorial, as I > don't fancy writing one ;-) > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > when I type route it displays the headings of the route table and then > stops. Use "route -n" to avoid doing DNS lookups? > where can I find displayed the settings for DNS and default Gateway? route tells you gateway settings and DNS names are in /etc/resolv.conf > I use peanut Linux. I think that's based on an old Slackware? > Should... I intend to set up my own internal network and run ppp on > demand with a firewall etc... but as yet can't get ppp working. so at > the moment the network card isn't even connected to any cables. So you almost certainly don't want a gateway on that network just yet. Can anyone who has done this recommend a good tutorial, as I don't fancy writing one ;-)

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by David Freeman 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

--- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > > > Thanks to all who replied, for somereason, changing the cable > allows it > > to work under kppp. I can now log into my isp and get an ip > connection. > > but I can't get anywhere else as I think my default route and my > DNS > > isn't configured right. Wont resolve names and pings don't work for > any > > address other than the other end of my ppp link. > > I hear some distributions put a default route in on the internal > network which is wrong wrong wrong. Sorry I can't remember what > distribution you're using, so I can't advise how to fix it > permanently, but you could try using the "route" command to delete > any > route on the internal network. when I type route it displays the headings of the route table and then stops. where can I find displayed the settings for DNS and default Gateway? I use peanut Linux. > > I have a 3com ethernet card in the machine as well which has an IP > > address of 10.10.10.2 this is configured at bootup with a default > > gateway of 10.10.10.1. how do I change it all to work with PPP? > > It should just work, but why is there a gateway if this is the ppp > machine... ie, is there another network beyond 10.10.10.1? Should... I intend to set up my own internal network and run ppp on demand with a firewall etc... but as yet can't get ppp working. so at the moment the network card isn't even connected to any cables. Thanks D > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ALUG] Graphics cards
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > Also, has any one used the daimond 'hardware' modem (sorry no other > details known)? Diamond's SupraExpress series work well with Linux and are often recommended. I personally wouldn't recommend them as Diamond's tech support really really really suck with their autoresponders and start quoting legal stuff at you as soon as they find out you want support for something other than the recommended spec on the box. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > Thanks to all who replied, for somereason, changing the cable allows it > to work under kppp. I can now log into my isp and get an ip connection. > but I can't get anywhere else as I think my default route and my DNS > isn't configured right. Wont resolve names and pings don't work for any > address other than the other end of my ppp link. I hear some distributions put a default route in on the internal network which is wrong wrong wrong. Sorry I can't remember what distribution you're using, so I can't advise how to fix it permanently, but you could try using the "route" command to delete any route on the internal network. > I have a 3com ethernet card in the machine as well which has an IP > address of 10.10.10.2 this is configured at bootup with a default > gateway of 10.10.10.1. how do I change it all to work with PPP? It should just work, but why is there a gateway if this is the ppp machine... ie, is there another network beyond 10.10.10.1?

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 6
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> writes: > Has anybody tried running it under Linux yet? It's a bugger of a beast > under Windows, and there are some rendering issues too, but I do like > the new look and feel of it. It's reportedly an improvement on NS4.7x in many respects, but incompatible in some others (third party plugins are troublesome at the moment) and has too much debugging code left in because they forked and fixed what is now quite an old Moz rather than maintaining a patchset. I'll wait a little, then try building a new Moz. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by David Freeman 16 Nov '00

16 Nov '00

Thanks to all who replied, for somereason, changing the cable allows it to work under kppp. I can now log into my isp and get an ip connection. but I can't get anywhere else as I think my default route and my DNS isn't configured right. Wont resolve names and pings don't work for any address other than the other end of my ppp link. I have a 3com ethernet card in the machine as well which has an IP address of 10.10.10.2 this is configured at bootup with a default gateway of 10.10.10.1. how do I change it all to work with PPP? Thanks D --- cepi x <cepi77(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > well I got a ELSA 56K Internet external modem and it > works fine dialing on NTLWorld free service.I use > kppp, pap auth.I dont know what UKLinux.net uses but > check your modem cable.Some have 4 wires some have 2. > Mine wouldn't work on the one with 4 wires and kppp > used to start dialing and then die with no-dial tone > detected. > > CEPi > > Ipswich > > > > --- David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> > wrote: > > All, > > > > Before I get to the problem I am having I should > > really introduce my > > self. I am a 18 year old C programmer from Ipswich > > presently working > > for a telco in the area. I have been using linux for > > a while now, > > Redhat >5.2 + SUSE >6 at work. With suse 6.1, > > Tomsrbt and small linux > > at home. > > > > Up until now I have had no need to get ppp working, > > I did try a few > > months ago to get ppp working using kppp but found > > that the modem I was > > using needed a large driver (micro$oft windows). I > > recently aquired a > > 28.8 external modem which I have connected to one of > > my home PC's which > > is running Peanut linux. I have spent all evening > > trying to get ppp > > working and have failed. What I have done is this - > > > > * using O'reilly's TCP/IP network admin book I have > > tried > > > > * DIP using a small script as suggested in the > > book. > > > > gets to a login prompt but wont get any > > further > > > > * pppd with chat script, dials in then drops out > > > > * Kppp, initiases modem then drops out trying to > > dail. > > > > All this is done using the uklinux.net ISP. > > > > If any one can help I would be very Apprecitive. The > > machine is a amd > > k6 2/ 200 with 32MB ram duel boot with win95, 3 HD > > and a haupage TV > > card* + all the usual refinements. > > > > Thanks > > > > D > > > > * If any one knows how to get this working under > > Linux I would be interested. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in > > one Place. > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Netscape 6
by Martyn Drake 16 Nov '00

16 Nov '00

Has anybody tried running it under Linux yet? It's a bugger of a beast under Windows, and there are some rendering issues too, but I do like the new look and feel of it. Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> http://www.alug.org.uk

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Graphics cards
by David Freeman 15 Nov '00

15 Nov '00

All, I am about to upgrade my aging amd k6-2 PC. I have decided on most of the hardware I am going to use, except for the graphics card. Can any one recommend a good graphics card which will give good performance on a linux box, work with opengl linux games, and be good for gaming on other OS's? Also, has any one used the daimond 'hardware' modem (sorry no other details known)? Thanks D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 6
by David Freeman 15 Nov '00

15 Nov '00

Tried it on windows at work. And have since installed lynx instead... Thanks D --- Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Martyn Drake wrote: > > > Has anybody tried running it under Linux yet? > > Why bother? Mozilla is pretty useable for most stuff, looks just as > good, > and doesn't have the annoying compliance bugs that Nutscrape 6 has. > > Basically folks, avoid Netscape until they behave and follow the > standards. > > > Andrew. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would > want them? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Linux books at 60% off rrp for all user group members
by MJ Ray 15 Nov '00

15 Nov '00

From: "CARL CARLUCCI" <fortis.books(a)virgin.net> Subject: Re: LINUX BOOKS AT 60% OFF RRP FOR ALL USER GROUP MEMBERS Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:50:51 -0000 Thanks for your interest Here is a list of Linux titles Linux programming Unleashed isbn 0-672-31607-2 c1999 rrp 36.50 Fortis price 14.50 Linux Unleashed 4ed isbn 0-672-31688-9 c2000 rrp 36.50 Fortis price 14.50 Teach yourself C for Linux programming isbn 0-672-31597-1 c2000 rrp 21.99 Fortis price 10.00 Linux: Networking for your office isbn 0-672-31792-3 c2000 rrp25.50 Fortis price 11.50 Using Caldera Linux special edition isbn0-7897-2058-2 c1999 rrp36.99 Fortis price 12.00 Caldera Open Linux Installation & Configuration Handbook isbn 0-7897-2105-8 c1999 rrp 28.99 Fortis price 12.00 Teach yourself Linux 2ed isbn0-672-31526-2 c1999 rrp22.49 Fortis price 9.50 Using Corel Wordperfect 8 for Linux isbn 0-7897-20329 c1999 rrp 36.99 Fortis price 14.00 As mentioned titles change regularly and tend to sell very quickly.Your members can gain preferential notification of future titles simply by e-mailing me their details/areas of interest. To order/check availability of titles your members can e-mail or telephone me.Payment by Cheque/cash. Further discounts for those who tell the world. Telephone: 01245 477719 or email the above address CC

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by cepi x 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

well I got a ELSA 56K Internet external modem and it works fine dialing on NTLWorld free service.I use kppp, pap auth.I dont know what UKLinux.net uses but check your modem cable.Some have 4 wires some have 2. Mine wouldn't work on the one with 4 wires and kppp used to start dialing and then die with no-dial tone detected. CEPi Ipswich --- David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: > All, > > Before I get to the problem I am having I should > really introduce my > self. I am a 18 year old C programmer from Ipswich > presently working > for a telco in the area. I have been using linux for > a while now, > Redhat >5.2 + SUSE >6 at work. With suse 6.1, > Tomsrbt and small linux > at home. > > Up until now I have had no need to get ppp working, > I did try a few > months ago to get ppp working using kppp but found > that the modem I was > using needed a large driver (micro$oft windows). I > recently aquired a > 28.8 external modem which I have connected to one of > my home PC's which > is running Peanut linux. I have spent all evening > trying to get ppp > working and have failed. What I have done is this - > > * using O'reilly's TCP/IP network admin book I have > tried > > * DIP using a small script as suggested in the > book. > > gets to a login prompt but wont get any > further > > * pppd with chat script, dials in then drops out > > * Kppp, initiases modem then drops out trying to > dail. > > All this is done using the uklinux.net ISP. > > If any one can help I would be very Apprecitive. The > machine is a amd > k6 2/ 200 with 32MB ram duel boot with win95, 3 HD > and a haupage TV > card* + all the usual refinements. > > Thanks > > D > > * If any one knows how to get this working under > Linux I would be interested. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in > one Place. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Linux Newbie PPP problem
by David Freeman 11 Nov '00

11 Nov '00

All, Before I get to the problem I am having I should really introduce my self. I am a 18 year old C programmer from Ipswich presently working for a telco in the area. I have been using linux for a while now, Redhat >5.2 + SUSE >6 at work. With suse 6.1, Tomsrbt and small linux at home. Up until now I have had no need to get ppp working, I did try a few months ago to get ppp working using kppp but found that the modem I was using needed a large driver (micro$oft windows). I recently aquired a 28.8 external modem which I have connected to one of my home PC's which is running Peanut linux. I have spent all evening trying to get ppp working and have failed. What I have done is this - * using O'reilly's TCP/IP network admin book I have tried * DIP using a small script as suggested in the book. gets to a login prompt but wont get any further * pppd with chat script, dials in then drops out * Kppp, initiases modem then drops out trying to dail. All this is done using the uklinux.net ISP. If any one can help I would be very Apprecitive. The machine is a amd k6 2/ 200 with 32MB ram duel boot with win95, 3 HD and a haupage TV card* + all the usual refinements. Thanks D * If any one knows how to get this working under Linux I would be interested. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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For people with a line for the computer
by MJ Ray 11 Nov '00

11 Nov '00

http://www.penguinpowered.org.uk/scripts/wish_here.shtml Nice to see someone documented it. Anyone doing this?

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how to install Redhat6.2 on a ultra66 hard disk.
by Thai 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

Hello everybody, My computer has a Promise ultra66 controller. My hard disk supports ultra66. Do you know how to install redhat 6.2 on that disk which is plugged to ultra66 controller? On Promise web page (www.promise.com) there's a guide to install redhat 6.0 to a ultra66 hard disk. It seems to me that it doesn't work with redhat 6.2. They say that kernel of redhat 6.1 and later versions support ultra66. If we want to use that feature, we have to recompile the kernel. I can recompile the kernel, but I'm not sure if I know where the option that enables ultra66 is and I'm not sure if we can boot linux directly from a ultra66 hard disk after we recompile the kernel or we cannot do that but redhat will regconize any ultra66 hard disk with the condition that we have to boot linux from IDE. Do you have any experience about that? If you've done it before, tell me what you do please. Thank you very much.

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[Various] Digested Articles
by MJ Ray 03 Nov '00

03 Nov '00

Ought to go get them on the patents, I feel. If anyone makes a particularly good response, please share it with the group so we can crib from it? Thanks, MJR Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:17:51 +0000 From: kevin.taylor(a)powerconv.alstom.com Subject: UK Stance on software patents ... Just in case you haven't heard (yet) - the UK Patent Office are asking for feedback/comments about what to do about software patents ... "We want to know what you think about this so that Government policy is evidence-based and relevant to business, commerce, and consumers - in other words to you. So, whether you are in the software industry, financial services, are a software user, a consumer, or are otherwise interested, we want to hear from you." http://www.patent.gov.uk/snews/notices/softcons.html (deadline is 15th December 2000) Kevin. Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:33:16 -0000 From: "Neil Dolan" <neil(a)livepublishing.co.uk> Subject: Linux Magazine UK Hi All I'd like to introduce you all to the launch of Linux Magazine UK after the success of Linux Magazine Germany and Linux User Germany over the last five years. I'm really after a level of interest in you receiving the magazine and even maybe establishing a relationship with group members for feedback on how you feel we can improve on the magazine to give you all the latest news and reviews. You can check out the magazine at www.linux-magazine.co.uk We'd love to hear from you, your views and opinions are extremely important to us. If any of you want a free copy of the magazine, just mail or phone me and we'll send one out to you happily. I look forward to your views Kindest Regards Neil Dolan (ndolan(a)linux-magazine.co.uk) Sales and Marketing Manager, Linux New Media UK Europa House, Adlington Park, Macclesfield SK10 4NP Telephone: 01625 855169 / Fax: 01625 855071 A division of Linux New Media AG, Munich, Germany

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[Alasdair G Kergon <agk@ukuug.org>] FW: LinuxUser Conference programme and issue 4 articles now available
by MJ Ray 03 Nov '00

03 Nov '00

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:56:37 +0000 From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk(a)ukuug.org> The programme of the LinuxUser Conference on 5-6 December in London is now available at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/conference/programme.html Speakers include Larry Augustin of VA Linux, Dirk Hohndel of SuSE, and author Craig Hunt. Compaq, IBM, Intel, SGI and Informix will also be represented, amongst others. The articles from Issue 4 of LinuxUser are also available for download from the archive at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/articles/ - now sponsored by Compaq. ends Daniel James Web Editor LinuxUser ----- End forwarded message -----

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Anti-Wintel Campaign
by Mills 03 Nov '00

03 Nov '00

You may interested to know there is an computer movement call Reboot, that as one of it's campaign is an Anti-Wintel one. It's webpages are at: http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/reboot/

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Sys Admin (fwd)
by Andrew Savory 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

For info... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:53:36 -0600 From: marketing(a)cmp.com To: info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk Subject: Sys Admin Hi there! Sys Admin - the journal for UNIX systems administrators - has an exciting offer for your User Group! Sys Admin is the only magazine that can help you keep your system up and running 24/7/365! Sys Admin is the only magazine 100% devoted to UNIX. And Sys Admin is only the magazine written for UNIX systems administrators by UNIX systems administrators. If you are planning on having a seminar, conference, trade show booth or just a regular monthly meeting, Sys Admin would like to help make the event even better. Sys Admin will send T-shirts, mugs and/or magazines to any UNIX event. All you have to do is let us know when the event is! To take advantage of this offer simply reply to this e-mail. Please be sure to include the following information: 1) Contact name 2) Mailing address 3) Date of the event 4) Number of people expected at the event** **If you would like to receive a few sample copies of the magazine to review before we send out copies to the event, just include that request in your reply. We look forward to hearing from you! Bob Cucciniello Marketing Coordinator Sys Admin Magazine info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk

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Re: [Alug] Sys Admin (fwd)
by cepi x 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

yeah some free t-shirts would be nice....i'll pay the postage CEPi --- Aquarius <aquarius(a)kryogenix.org> wrote: > In article > <Pine.OSF.4.05.10011011655530.21132-100000(a)cpca7.uea.ac.uk> > you wrote: > > If you are planning on having a seminar, > conference, trade show booth or > > just a regular monthly meeting, Sys Admin would > like to help make the event even > > better. Sys Admin will send T-shirts, mugs and/or > magazines to any UNIX event. > > All you have to do is let us know when the event > is! > > Should we ask for some free stuff for the next > meeting? ;) > > Aq. > > -- > I can quite imagine Aq rising from the grave just to > tell off anyone who > dares talk about future Buffy at his funeral. ;) > -- Ce' > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?

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A web site should be coming soon :)
by Martyn Drake 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Hi, I've eventually managed to persaude Zeus to work alongside Zope and Squishdot (turns out I forgot to compile the pcgi wrapper which of course, is vital in executing the Zope.cgi script - d'oh!!!), so I hope that Mark will be able to upload the existing website from freezope within the next day or so (barring any difficulties with my default install of Zope/Squishdot). I'm still awaiting to hear back from the lug.org.uk folks with getting DNS and MX records updated, but I hope this should go through by tomorrow at the latest so that everything is pointing in the right direction. Regards, Martyn

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Re: [Alug] Ports tree
by MJ Ray 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Thom May <thom(a)planetarytramp.net> writes: > I do know some lunatic has created a perl script to turn > Debian's package management infrastructure into a ports tree, > but I imagine that would be somewhat unwieldy. Thanks Thom. Love you too :P > It's a damn cool idea though - I love the ports tree system, if only > keeping it up to date was a bit less hacky. Time for some perl magic > and the freshmeat DB? It might be a better idea to either extend fmports to use configure more intelligently or build something that only lists autoconf'd packages? MJR

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Meetings
by MJ Ray 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Well, it would seem that the IRC meetings are still going on, despite my lack of attendance. Just to remind the newcomers who have subscribed since the website went live, they're on eu.openprojects.net in #alug every Monday at 2000 UK time. Feel free to drop in and get real-time help while we wait for the main meetings to back into their rhythm. (Any news, anyone?) MJR

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Ports tree
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Does anyone know of a BSD-ish ports tree being developed for Linux? Either currently, or a project in the past? Is it worthwhile, or does a suitably structured source directory and some discipline make it irrelevant? MJR

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > MJ Ray wrote: > > Is Zeus open source? > Err don't think so somehow. :) Of course, no-one ever made money from developing open source commercial software... I always thought people paid Zeus for the wonderful support? Anyway, very OT now.

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> writes: > 2) Until I can get Zope working with Zeus (pesky Zope!), I'll add a > redirect to the Alug site at FreeZope. Similiarly for the alug.org.uk > domain too. Is Zeus open source? If so, you should be able to edit both Zope and Zeus to see what the problem is with interfacing the two? Failing that, can we run Zope's ZServer straight out onto the net for now, caching it later if needed? Just ideas, MJR

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Re: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > Neither http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ nor www.alug.org.uk are working today > but the prototype site at http://freezope.nipltd.net/alug/ is! What gives? No idea. I suspect the number of diving trees we're seeing around here at the moment are giving people something else to think about. Hopefully someone will get to it before too much longer. Portables charged, everyone? :/ MJR

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Web site not working
by John Woodard 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

Neither http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ nor www.alug.org.uk are working today but the prototype site at http://freezope.nipltd.net/alug/ is! What gives? Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] The future of *nix - opinions sought
by MJ Ray 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

David Cartwright <dsc(a)cube8.com> writes: > Are Microsoft really catching up? Are Sun and HP losing out to > Linux? Well, Linux is catching up with MS in terms of market share, while it seems that MS is catching up in terms of stability and "gee wow" UI frippery (from what I see on my neighbour's Win2k desktop). I'm still healthily doubtful about Windows being able to work on two architectures equally well, as we all remember what a success NT on Alpha has been, right? Sun and HP probably are losing the low-end to Linux. How far that goes depends what tactics Sun and HP adopt to block it (as this nearly always results in shooting oneself in the foot) or adopt it (which sometimes helps, sometimes hinders). > Will Linux be big on the desktop? Whatever happened to SGI? Well, as you know, where I'm working already has Unix on the desktop and a growing proportion of them are Linux now, because it's cheaper to roll out than Solaris (even though the Solaris OS has no purchase cost to us either) and there's more documentation and assistance out there for it. SGI appear to be confused. > Should we all forget commercial *nixes, or do the Suns and HPs of > this world still have plenty of marketplace alongside those of us > with Linux on our laptops? Wait and see what happens on SMP, clustering, etc. Some of the pure mathematicians are already a lot happier running their software on Linux rather than the Suns, as they can add more power more cheaply(sp?) to commodity x86 hardware. > Dave Cartwright > (yes, the ex-UEA/SYS one for those who remember) Applying for any upcoming UEA vacancies? ;-) MJR (yes, the current UEA/MTH one)

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[Alasdair Kergon <agk@ukuug.org>] Vinton Cerf - London, Fri 3rd Nov, 6.30pm (UKUUG/ISOC)
by MJ Ray 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:39:48 +0100 From: Alasdair Kergon <agk(a)ukuug.org> Subject: [lugmaster] Vinton Cerf - London, Fri 3rd Nov, 6.30pm (UKUUG/ISOC) The UKUUG is pleased to announce another free evening meeting in the very successful 1999/2000 series that has included well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Eric Raymond, and recently James Gosling. Date: Friday 3rd November 2000 Times: 6.30 p.m. - 8.00 p.m. Speaker: Vinton G. Cerf Sr. Vice President for Internet Architecture and Technology MCI WorldCom Widely known as a "Father of the Internet," Cerf is the co-designer of the TCP/IP protocols and the architecture of the Internet. In December 1997, President Clinton presented the U.S. National Medal of Technology to Cerf and his partner, Robert E. Kahn, for founding and developing the Internet. Title: The 21st Century Internet Tidal Wave The talk opens with a brief bit of history and philosophy related to the Internet, then discusses the current status and scale of the Internet, where its services are available, and then goes on to explore applications of the network, especially the newer ones in addition to email, world wide web, and remote interaction. The talk finishes up with a look at expansion of the Internet beyond planet Earth. The talk will be followed by a question and answer session. Vinton Cerf has been hailed as the father of the Internet. He co-created TCP/IP 24 years ago and broke down policy barriers, a feat that turned the government-based network into a revolutionary commercial medium. Throughout his entire career, the 55-year-old Cerf has taken his love of science fiction, his knowledge of computer science and his sensitivity toward humanity and melded these qualities to vastly improve the way the entire world communicates and gathers knowledge. The Internet has become the fastest-growing communications network, touched by everyone from techies at NASA to schoolchildren in rural America. Venue: Cruciform Building Lecture Theatre 1 (Red Building - opposite UCL's main gate) University College London Gower Street London WC1 This event is open to all - free of charge; advance booking is not required. For further details (Vint Cerf's full biography and related URLs) please visit the UKUUG website: http://www.ukuug.org/events/cerf -- UKUUG Administration -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.lug.org.uk http://www.linuxportal.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The future of *nix - opinions sought
by David Cartwright 26 Oct '00

26 Oct '00

Hi all, I'm writing about what's next for *nix for the weekly trade paper Network News. The specific brief goes like: "We would be looking at what the Unix world is doing now that Microsoft and Intel are beginning to catch up with IA64 as well as any moves in the market - ie what flavours will survive, and what won't". Are Microsoft really catching up? Are Sun and HP losing out to Linux? Will Linux be big on the desktop? Whatever happened to SGI? Should we all forget commercial *nixes, or do the Suns and HPs of this world still have plenty of marketplace alongside those of us with Linux on our laptops? I'd be very interested in the group's assorted thoughts about the general future for *nix. Cheers, Dave Cartwright (yes, the ex-UEA/SYS one for those who remember)

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Re: [Alug] Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > Some of the time servers I use are a bit flakey. It's not easy finding a good > set :-( dir.mcc.ac.uk is the most common one used by UK University sites, I believe. There is a list of time servers online somewhere (search google for ntp primary), but the nearest official one is Norway at the moment, I believe. MJR

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Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Hi, I'm having trouble recently with the tops being chopped off of my printouts, using a usual lpr+ghostscript setup. From talking to a few people, this isn't a rare problem, but does anyone have a solution? Thanks, MJR

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Re: [Alug] Rooms and Website // was Re: Free Hardware Foundation
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> writes: > I'm arranging for a redirect for http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk to > temporarily point to the FreeZope hosting site, and then when everything > has been uploaded to my server, I will update DNS as necessary. FYI, it already frame-bounces there. Mail me off-list to co-ordinate the transfer? MJR

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Rooms and Website // was Re: Free Hardware Foundation
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

"Adrian F. Clark" <alien(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > How about a meeting here at the University of Essex? I could > undoubtedly book a room 'n' things. Pick a date, any date... it's only John that'll get obstructed, as I've done nothing on the UEA date yet. If you two can pick two of the next three months, I'll get the other at UEA (Christmas permitting). As people seem to want talks to kick meetings off, what shall we have talks on? Finally, we now have a more up-to-date website, but it's sadly missing much of what ought to be there and some design work would probably not go amiss. The initial call for editors is on the site, but I could also do with setting some topics and having little graphics for them. Hackneyed, of course, but would help to break the page up a bit. Once we're sorted out for the next few meetings, I'll post the dates (and topics) to the site and ngs. Feel free to send them on to any interested parties. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Free Hardware Foundation
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Mills <planet14(a)boyznow.net> writes: > If there is another meeting in Norwich/UEA I will probably be there. I think November/December may be at UEA. Not really got that far ahead yet, but I suspect Syleham may get a bit less fun to get to in the depths of winter? I'd love to go to a Cambridgeshire or Essex venue, if anyone there can host a meeting... > If there is a Free Software Foundation (FSF) why is there no Free > Hardware Foundation (FHF). FHF could have open source chip designs, > that could be loaded on to FPGAs. Image free modem, cpus etc.. You > could get the latest bug-fix, speed improvement, feature etc. There are several related projects underway, I think. None have reached completion (and given how much has to be put in to chip design, perhaps they won't for some time yet). Try looking at http://f-cpu.tux.org/ for example. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > Sounds as if you ahge the wrong paper size configured Edited /usr/share/ghostscript/5.10/gs_init.ps to use a4 which seems to have cured it. I wonder what changed that then :/ Thanks... I didn't realise US Letter showed itself by chopping the top off (I'm more used to it chopping the bottom, as someone else said). MJR

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Free Hardware Foundation
by Mills 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Hello ALUG, If there is another meeting in Norwich/UEA I will probably be there. If there is a Free Software Foundation (FSF) why is there no Free Hardware Foundation (FHF). FHF could have open source chip designs, that could be loaded on to FPGAs. Image free modem, cpus etc.. You could get the latest bug-fix, speed improvement, feature etc. Yours Tarquin Mills

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Re: Linux Group (fwd)
by Andrew Savory 23 Oct '00

23 Oct '00

For info. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:28:00 +0100 From: Kevin Revill <krevill(a)myopenapps.com> To: info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: Linux Group Dear Linux group organiser We are a major UK applications Service Provider looking to recruit. Could you please pass on the message below to your members who may wish to take up positions with us. -- | Kevin Revill "Smart Applications - Tools for life" | available @ | Insight ASP LTD http://www.myopenapps.com +---------------Open Source Innovation-------------------- PROGRAMMERS MyOpenApps is an ASP from Sheffield England, with backing from a US Fortune 1000 company turning over $2 billion per annum, that is committed to making a lot of noise! We are expanding rapidly and are looking for people who want to work with exciting customers and partners who turn us on and stretch us mentally, from whom we can learn, and whom we enjoy associating. We want people who are innovative, not restricted by their own imagination, and who want to help build their own futures the way they see them. We want people who DON'T want: 1). to wear shirts and ties to work. (if they don't want to) 2). to engage in office politics. 3). to work in a strict authoritian environment which stifles their progress and hampers their creativity. BUT DO want: 1). to learn. 2). to pursue excellence in ALL areas. (after all, we DO have customers to die for!) 2). to be part of a team building the future. So if you want to push the boundaries of your career to new highs, and you want to excel in ALL areas then come down and meet us. Pre-Requisites: ---------------- Experience of : 1). HTML or DHTML 2). PHP or C 3). SQL. 4). Sun Solaris or Linux 5). A passion for Pizza and Diet Coke! Excellent Salary & Working Environment available NOW!!! Successful applicants will receive notification within 24 hours of interview. Send your C.V to careers(a)myopenapps.com or visit us at http://www.myopenapps.com/

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Re: [Alug] Are we alive?
by MJ Ray 22 Oct '00

22 Oct '00

Aquarius <aquarius(a)kryogenix.org> writes: > I've been quiet because I've been persuading the alug list to be a > newsgroup, which now works very nicely indeed :-) So that's why you were bouncing mail and confusing the hell out of me with the errors? TYVM ;-) > contact details at all, apart from webmaster(a)tree.uk.com, and mails to > there seemed to be ignored. People: do not buy stuff from them. I bought from tree once, waited double the stated delivery time and had the order arrive in pieces interspersed with much hassling. People, do not but stuff from them. They are the exact opposite of the good service I've had from the Emporium. MJR

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