June 2011 - main - earth.li

Re: [ALUG] Blackberry vs Cyrus
by Stuart Bailey 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

On Thursday 02 June 2011 18:20:27 Wayne Stallwood wrote: > On 02/06/11 10:44, Brett Parker wrote: > > They'll then complain that "my mail on my blackberry and thunderbird > > aren't in sync! I deleted that! ARGH!" instead. > > I think this is one of the reasons I hate crackberry. > > For me having a full and complete state sync of email on my phone is > important. So if I read an email on the phone I want it marked as read > on the desktop mail client. If I respond I want the response in Sent > items on the desktop client and certainly if I delete a mail I want it > deleted on the desktop. > > This way I know I only need to look in one (either) place to get a full > and complete picture of what emails I have dealt with and how I > responded to them. > > I guess to get around the 3rd party password problem I'd have to run a > local BES and last time I looked at that it looked pretty evil and > overcomplicated. > I have found an alternative to BES - funambol. I haven't yet installed it for this customer, but I've heard good things about it. Stuart Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Managing Director) Linux Specialist & Software Developer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phone: (0845) 658 3563 Direct: +44 (0)1953 878162 Fax: +44 (0) 1603 858583 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.linusoft.co.uk http://www.bluetoothadvertising.org.uk __________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 6175 (20110602) __________ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com

1 0

Re: [ALUG] Blackberry vs Cyrus
by Stuart Bailey 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

On Thursday 02 June 2011 10:44:34 Brett Parker wrote: > On 02 Jun 10:29, Stuart Bailey wrote: > > I have a customer running Cyrus IMAP and Postfix. They have users with > > Thunderbird clients on their desktops and some Blackberries using the BIS > > service. > > > > They are complaining that sometime emails appear on the Blackberry 10 > > mins before they appear in their mailbox on Thunderbird. > > > > Apparently the BB is polling every 5 mins, and Thunderbird every minute > > Any ideas what may be causing this delay? > > Simples - if the blackberry poll hits at the time that the mail comes > in, it'll mark things as having been grabbed, and so the Recent flag > stops being relevant and thunderbird won't notice until it does a full > proper check (usually, I'd guess that it asks for a status from the imap > connection, notes there's nothing Recent and carries right on, and > probably doesn't check Unread). > > Simple, easy test: set the blackberry to check a different mail account > and set postfix to deliver mail to both accounts - see if they then stop > complaining about it... > > They'll then complain that "my mail on my blackberry and thunderbird > aren't in sync! I deleted that! ARGH!" instead. > > Also, BIS stores passwords in plain text on their end (have to so that > they can auth with the mail server)... I Really Don't Trust RIM to get > this right consistently, so I tended to make it so that RIM had a > different account and password to the main user (damage limitation!). > > Cheers, Thanks Brett. that is helpful. I have found that turning off polling in Thunderbird and using IDLE instead may help. I'm evaluating this at the moment. Stuart Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Managing Director) Linux Specialist & Software Developer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phone: (0845) 658 3563 Direct: +44 (0)1953 878162 Fax: +44 (0) 1603 858583 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.linusoft.co.uk http://www.bluetoothadvertising.org.uk __________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 6175 (20110602) __________ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com

1 0

Postfix (Sendmail) problem
by Barry Samuels 02 Jun '11

02 Jun '11

Debian Testing/Wheezy, kernel 2.6.38, Postfix I've had a procmail receipe in place for a few weeks now and it's been working well. :0 * ^(TO|FROM):.+@mydomainname.* { :0c # Send a copy to the other email account. ! someone(a)anotherdomainname.com # File the original as normal :0 foldername } Then a few days ago, probably after some OS updates, it fails with: status=deferred (host mail.*******.*****.com[000.00.00.0] said: 451 4.4.0 DNS temporary failure (chkuser) (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) (I've removed the data identifying the destination) I have also tried sending an email directly using /usr/bin/sendmail and that produces the same result, whatever the emails destination, so I'm assuming it must be my setup. I can't explain why it worked before but doesn't now though. I have really no idea what this means as Postfix configuration is a series of magical incantaitions which I don't understand. Some help would be much appreciated. -- Barry Samuels

2 3

Blackberry vs Cyrus
by Stuart Bailey 02 Jun '11

02 Jun '11

I have a customer running Cyrus IMAP and Postfix. They have users with Thunderbird clients on their desktops and some Blackberries using the BIS service. They are complaining that sometime emails appear on the Blackberry 10 mins before they appear in their mailbox on Thunderbird. Apparently the BB is polling every 5 mins, and Thunderbird every minute Any ideas what may be causing this delay? Many thanks, Stuart __________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 6172 (20110601) __________ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com

3 2