January 2006 - main

Re: newb: Hello! (ubuntu connects)
by Simon 07 Jan '06

07 Jan '06

Firstly, welcome aboard. You'll be coming to the pub meets in Norwich?? Secondly, ouch! Have you got rid of Gnome yet?? Hopefully. But if not; On a machine of that speed, you'll want to be doing a... sudo apt-get install xubuntu ...which installs all the relavent packages to make XFCE the Desktop Environment. Log out and click "Sessions" on GDM - select XFCE from the list. XFCE is a light-weight, resource friendly DE which should handle much much better on your laptop. Other lightweight desktop environments you might like to try; fluxbox, IceWM. (PS. Didn't know if you meant newb to Alug or newb to Linux in general!) -Simon > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:37:39 +0000 > From: Dave Cooper <dave(a)accuramatic.co.uk> > Subject: [ALUG] newb: Hello! (ubuntu connects) > To: Alug main List <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <1136583460.6641.6.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hello Alug! I'm a newb who joined the list on 23rd Dec: it's taken this > long to get ubuntu 5.10 on my (300mHz) laptop to connect, but here it > is! All filtered through it's unheard-of-by-linux (NetVin430) pcmcia > lan card too. Dave

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Samba problem with just one Windows client
by Chris Green 07 Jan '06

07 Jan '06

I run Samba on my Slackware Linux system. All our client computers except one can access the Samba shares OK. On the one that fails it connects OK and the network drive icon appears but when you click on the icon you get a message saying:- E: Access is Denied The same user can connect successfully from other computers on the network. We've checked all the obvious things like the client system is in the right workgroup and the IP address is right at both ends. Other things work fine (HTTP, telnet, etc.) A "net use E: \\server\homes" returns success but if you then try to go to drive E: you get "Access is denied". What are we missing? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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newb: Hello! (ubuntu connects)
by Dave Cooper 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

Hello Alug! I'm a newb who joined the list on 23rd Dec: it's taken this long to get ubuntu 5.10 on my (300mHz) laptop to connect, but here it is! All filtered through it's unheard-of-by-linux (NetVin430) pcmcia lan card too. Dave

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Firefox character set problem
by Chris Green 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

I'm just investigating a trip to Poland and thus I'm seeing lots of Polish web sites. Firefox is making a right pigs ear of all the special Polish characters (basically lots of different sorts of accents). It copes with French accents fine. What do I need to do to get it to handle the Polish alphabet. I have a suspicion I need a character set that's something other than iso8859-1 but trying the only font offered for "Central European" (which was an iso8859-2) didn't help at all. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Re: main Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5
by Bob Dove 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

Hi Folks, Win2K - SP2 is well old. My 2 year old installation disc was Win2k inc SP2, I have since loaded SP3 and SP4. I upgraded to SP3 & 4 'cos Photoshop CS2 demanded it. Actually, CS2 runs as happily in SP2 as latter upgrades, however, it is now on a machine that doesn't have a modem and connection. I have less crashes! Cheers, BD. ----- Original Message ----- From: <main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk> To: <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: main Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 > Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > main-owner(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of main digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Samba problem with just one Windows client (Chris Green) > 2. Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client (Steve Fosdick) > 3. Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client (Chris Green) > 4. Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > (Wayne Stallwood) > 5. Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client (Chris Green) > 6. Re: Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > (Laurie Brown) > 7. Re: Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > (Chris Green) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:31:50 +0000 > From: Chris Green <chris(a)areti.co.uk> > Subject: [ALUG] Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20060105223150.GA9083(a)areti.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I run Samba on my Slackware Linux system. > > All our client computers except one can access the Samba shares OK. > > On the one that fails it connects OK and the network drive icon > appears but when you click on the icon you get a message saying:- > > E: Access is Denied > > The same user can connect successfully from other computers on the > network. We've checked all the obvious things like the client system > is in the right workgroup and the IP address is right at both ends. > Other things work fine (HTTP, telnet, etc.) > > A "net use E: \\server\homes" returns success but if you then try to > go to drive E: you get "Access is denied". > > What are we missing? > > -- > Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) > > "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 00:03:04 +0000 > From: Steve Fosdick <lists(a)pelvoux.nildram.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20060106000304.13d00306.lists(a)pelvoux.nildram.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:31:50 +0000 > > > What are we missing? > > Are you using encrypted passwords? Is the service pack level of the manfunctioning machine the same as the others? > > Steve. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:45:42 +0000 > From: Chris Green <chris(a)areti.co.uk> > Subject: [ALUG] Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20060106084542.GA10402(a)areti.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 12:03:04AM +0000, Steve Fosdick wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:31:50 +0000 > > > > > What are we missing? > > > > Are you using encrypted passwords? Is the service pack level of the manfunctioning machine the same as the others? > > > You're thinking down the same routes as us. Yes, we are using > encrypted passwords but it's been that way for a long time now > (several months). As far as I know the machine which doesn't work is > at the same level as the (only) other Win2k machine. > > The error seems to have arisen recently, some files were saved on a > Samba shared drive from that machine just before Christmas. Now it > doesn't work. > > We're racking our brains to think of something that's changed but > really can't think of anything. It's a very odd error as the shared > drive icon appears indicating everything is OK but you can't actually > access the files on the shared drive. > > -- > Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) > > "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:38:25 +0000 > From: Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.plus.com> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <1136540305.8024.63.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 08:45 +0000, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > We're racking our brains to think of something that's changed but > > really can't think of anything. It's a very odd error as the shared > > drive icon appears indicating everything is OK but you can't actually > > access the files on the shared drive. > > > > It's very odd that the same user works from another machine, other than > that it sounds like a problem with the smbpasswd > passwd mapping. > > I assume you are not running Samba in DC mode ? > > At the point of authentication is there anything funny appearing in > Samba's logs (I am guessing that you don't see the actual failure but I > am just wondering if there are any clues before that) > > > You could try turning off encrypted passwords on the 2k machine as a > test (I am not suggesting you leave it like that). The best way to do > this (a lot of people seem to resort to hacking about in the registry) > is through Admin Tools, Local Security Policy, Security Settings, Local > Policies, Security Options, Enable "Send unencrypted passwords to 3rd > party SMB Servers" > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:54:39 +0000 > From: Chris Green <chris(a)areti.co.uk> > Subject: [ALUG] Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <20060106095439.GA10842(a)areti.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 09:38:25AM +0000, Wayne Stallwood wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 08:45 +0000, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > > > We're racking our brains to think of something that's changed but > > > really can't think of anything. It's a very odd error as the shared > > > drive icon appears indicating everything is OK but you can't actually > > > access the files on the shared drive. > > > > > > > It's very odd that the same user works from another machine, other than > > that it sounds like a problem with the smbpasswd > passwd mapping. > > > > I assume you are not running Samba in DC mode ? > > > What's that? As I don't know what it is I doubt if I am running Samba > in DC mode. > > > > At the point of authentication is there anything funny appearing in > > Samba's logs (I am guessing that you don't see the actual failure but I > > am just wondering if there are any clues before that) > > > No, I looked at the logs, I can't see any difference between the > connections that work from other machines and the one that fails. > > > > > > You could try turning off encrypted passwords on the 2k machine as a > > test (I am not suggesting you leave it like that). The best way to do > > this (a lot of people seem to resort to hacking about in the registry) > > is through Admin Tools, Local Security Policy, Security Settings, Local > > Policies, Security Options, Enable "Send unencrypted passwords to 3rd > > party SMB Servers" > > > OK, thanks, I might try that. > > -- > Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) > > "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:10:07 +0000 > From: Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: Chris Green <chris(a)areti.co.uk> > Cc: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <43BE500F.40809(a)brownowl.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Chris Green wrote: > > [SNIP] > > Chris, > > Have you installed SP2 for W2K recently? > > Cheers, Laurie. > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Laurie Brown > laurie(a)brownowl.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:19:17 +0000 > From: Chris Green <chris(a)areti.co.uk> > Subject: [ALUG] Re: Re: Re: Samba problem with just one Windows client > To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Message-ID: <20060106111917.GA12184(a)areti.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 11:10:07AM +0000, Laurie Brown wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > [SNIP] > > > > Chris, > > > > Have you installed SP2 for W2K recently? > > > It's Ben's (my son's) machine that has the problem, I'll ask him but I > don't think he's installed any upgrades recently. > > -- > Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) > > "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > > End of main Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 > ********************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 04/01/2006 > >

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Putting my 'external' hostname in /etc/hosts, OK?
by Chris Green 04 Jan '06

04 Jan '06

Is there any way to make my 'external' host name resolve correctly when used on my home network behind a NAT router firewall? To access the apache server on my Linux box from the outside world the address is:- http://84-45-228-40.no-dns-yet.enta.net/ Is there any way I can get this to resolve when used on the LAN at home? This would allow me to send URLs to my wife and/or other family members so they can use them directly rather than me having to remember to change the 84-45-228-40.no-dns-yet.enta.net to the local name of my Linux box. I could go round adding an entry to all the LMHOSTS/HOSTS files in the Windows systems I suppose but that seems a little laborious. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Suse and scanning again
by Peter 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Thanks to Nick for replying! The problem, this morning, turned out to be not rebooting after editing the rsmgr file. What happens is, there is a white list for which scanners are allowed, and all others are forbidden. This is a change from 9.3 to 10.0. I think the idea is to stop malware addressing an imaginary scanner for some nefarious purpose. So, YAST is supposed to set the whitelist to the scanner you have defined, in resmgr, and indeed it does, but if you don't reboot, for some reason xsane does not see it, and you end up with my situation last night, where the files all look fine, but your user account cannot see the whitelist from xsane or iscan, but root can. The Suse materials don't tell you about rebooting, hence all the head scratching. Suse has another thing which is very puzzling and not documented as obviously as maybe it should be. To access a network printer, you need to run lppasswd (probably not the exact command). Then you set up a user and password, which is completely independent of your system users. It is quite odd, the signon passwords do not work, including root's, and when you set up a user to manage the printers, you can set them up with a different password. There must be a dedicated user/password file somewhere, just for printers. They must have some kind of reason for this stuff, but heaven help any users more naive than me! Peter

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Re: [ALUG] Permissions & scanning in Suse 10.0
by Nick Daniels 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:54, Peter Onion wrote: > There is a "printer setup wizard" which asks for a password > neither my password or root password works Have you set the cups password with lppasswd ? Peter Thanks Peter I have now, never had to do it in Suse before: lppasswd: user "root" and group "sys" do not exist. lppasswd: Password file not updated! linux:/home/nick # lppasswd -a root Regards - Nick Daniels

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Permissions & scanning in Suse 10.0
by Peter 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Does anyone know how to do this? What happens is, I've gone through the YAST configuration of the scanner, and its there ok. In fact, its there twice, once with the epkowa driver and once with the xsane driver. Start up xsane as an ordinary user and it is not found. Same applies to kooka and to iscan. In a terminal or not, makes no odds. Start up xsane, or the others, as root, from a terminal, disregarding the dire warnings, they all see the scanner and everything works perfectly. They offer a choice between the scanner with the two drivers, as you would expect. Check /etc/resmgr in accordance with Suse instructions, and the relevant line of the form add usb vendor=xxxx,device=yyyy is there as its supposed to be and the numbers are correct. As you would expect, given that it works for root. Do /usr/sbin/lsusb as root, and its there. Do it as an ordinary user, and its not. It invites you to set permissions, without explaining how. So somehow, although YAST is supposed to set all the permissions right, it hasn't, and one has to set them manually. But where is the scanner to set its permissions, and what should they be set to? Or should I be finding the binaries of xsane and kooka and setting them to suid? Several hours now and counting.... Oh well, its how we learn. Regards, Peter

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 02 Jan '06

02 Jan '06

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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