February 2004 - main

Graphical 'diff' with proper X cut and paste
by Chris Green 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

I'm looking for a graphical (GUI/X) diff command which allows proper X cut and paste. I've found xdiff (well, one of them, there are a couple) and mgdiff but neither allows one to select lines from the display and to paste them elsewhere. They both expect you're trying to merge the diff'ed files into an output file so the select actions only decide whether what you have selected goes into the output file or not. What I need to do is to be able to see differences between two files and paste them into a third file which is (probably) open in a different window. I can't find a diff utility which allows me to do this. Does anyone have any recommendations? It needs to be fairly 'generic unix' as I want it to run on a Solaris box. I'm quite happy to compile stuff but I'm not happy if the program needs lots of specialist libraries. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Logo idea
by MJ Ray 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

As you may know, the original logo artwork went missing a while ago and we've been using a hasty mockup since. Keith has produced some redesigns which have been used on stickers etc. I've just had an idea for a cool logo: Tux, wearing armour, riding an armoured GNU, carrying a pennant that says GNU/Linux. Sort of like http://thetvroom.com/p-itv-1-anglia-past-a.shtml Can anyone produce this? -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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kernel 2.6
by bjsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 05 Mar '04

05 Mar '04

I normally compile my own kernels but I've not had so much trouble as I'm having with 2.6.2 and 2.6.0 before it. I'm running Debian Sarge (Testing). When starting to boot I see 'bios data check successful' then there is a pause of two minutes before the boot continues. In the log I see 'No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled'. In my config I have: # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y Anyone else experiencing problems with this kernel? Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Syleham Meeting Sunday 29th
by Peter Onion 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

I'm a bit of a "sleeping member" but I'm intending to come up to Syleham on Sunday. I'll bring my Mini-ITX SuSE 9.0 machine along. It's got images of the the SuSE 9.0 CDs on it for network (nfs) installs if anyone wants to do that. It'll run as a wireless access point as well if needs be. Peter Onion

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Patitioning
by IanBell 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

I often try new distros or upgrade the one I am using. Currently I have four partitions on my hard drive. Two are for two different linux distros, one for swap and another for M$. I have just moved from mainly working on one linux distro to the other which has meant copying lots of files from one /home/myuser directory to the other and changing lots of permissions. basically a pain. I am thinking of re-partitioning to include a permanent /home partition which can be used by either linux distro. This way I can install or upgrade distros to my hearts content without having to worry about transferring user files. So the question, does this work, is it practical, are ther any pitfalls? Cheers Ian

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Postfix and Bogofilter
by Graham Trott 29 Feb '04

29 Feb '04

I've done something - dunno what - to break my Postfix setup. No mail is getting through (so I may have trouble reading any replies!) and the following messages are appearing in /var/log/mail: >>> Feb 23 20:39:02 server postfix/qmgr[1456]: warning: connect to transport filter;: No such file or directory Feb 23 20:39:11 server popper[5855]: Stats: graham 0 0 0 0 dsl-217-155-232-206.zen.co.uk 217.155.232.206 [pop_updt.c:296] Feb 23 20:40:02 server postfix/qmgr[1456]: warning: connect to transport filter;: No such file or directory Feb 23 20:40:16 server popper[5856]: Stats: graham 0 0 0 0 dsl-217-155-232-206.zen.co.uk 217.155.232.206 [pop_updt.c:296] <<< It's something to do with setting up Bogofilter as a spam filter. The alterations to /etc/postfix/master.cf are as follows: >>> smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=filter: . . filter unix - n n - - pipe flags=R user=filter argv=/home/filter/postfix-filter.sh -f ${sender} -- ${recipient} <<< and /home/filter/postfix-filter.sh is a script in accordance with instructions at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bogofilter/bogofilter/doc/ integrating-with-postfix?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.3 Any clues would be most welcome. -- GT

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How to find what fonts are available for enscript/CUPS
by Chris Green 28 Feb '04

28 Feb '04

I have a Slackware 9.1 system with CUPS installed and working. I'm using enscript to print some files. How can I find out what fonts are available (i.e. what can I put after the -f parameter in enscript)? Both Courier and Times-roman work but there are probably others. I don't think they're the same as the X fonts. In /usr/share/cups/fonts there's just Courier so it must be getting Times-roman from somewhere else. If I could find the somewhere else I might be able to see what other fonts are there. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Re: [ALUG] Headless RedHat
by Matt Parker 28 Feb '04

28 Feb '04

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 13:13, Peter Onion wrote: > On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 12:33, Matt Parker wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I've got 3 boxen I want to use in my configuration - 2 RedHat 7.3 boxen > > (one running Oracle 9i, one running IBM WebSphere) and 1 Mandrake 9.1 > > box. I've got 1 two-port KVM switch so I can view one of the RedHat > > boxen as well as my Mandrake desktop. The problem is that I cannot get > > the other RedHat box to boot in headless mode (I don't want to reinstall > > since a lot of time and effort went into getting Oracle and WebSphere > > set up correctly). I've tried using serial cable/minicom for the second > > box, but no joy. Anyone here managed to get Linux/x86 booting in > > headless mode? > > How does it fail ? > Who knows? I'm trying to run it headless!!! Matt -- http://www.mpcontracting.co.uk Experts in Java development and website design

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Was: [alug social] lugs 'round these parts?
by Duncan Sample 27 Feb '04

27 Feb '04

Just moving this discussion to this list, and adding to it :o) -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Duncan Sample > To: social(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [alug social] lugs 'round these parts? > > Are the LUGs round generally weekly or monthly? Apart from the Cambridge one being weekly I haven't heard much about the LUGs round these parts, and the websites don't say much :o) > > I was wondering lately about whether it would be a good idea to start up a Cambridgeshire Fenland LUG (oh no, not another LUG!, lol), to bridge the gap between Peterborough and Cambridge. > > I want to have a regular social LUG like the classic LUG model of the home-brew club... people submitting bugs online and saying what gathering they're planning to go to, then people can try and find a solution if they have a free moment, and if it's not fixed online, I'd print the list of unsolved problems for people turning up that night and take the list along for people to thrash out. > > That's the main thing I thought of for the site, the fact that there would be a central store of people's questions (I know there's sites for that already), but most importantly, them saying where they're planning to meet, and whether they'll have their computer there for people to hack there ideas out until it's solved :o) > > I'm starting to make the site for it anyway, since I get bored at the weekend and start doodling new things (hey, it keeps me occupied) lol, just wanted to ask for the general opinions, and any other ideas for things that would help the running of LUGs :o) > > Duncan > > PS: Of course if it turns out my hair-brain idea would be useful, I'd see about starting an SF project for it so everyone can benefit -----MJ Ray replied----- > An ALUG question-site seems a good idea. I'd link to it. How would it > play with the email? Are you planning to use a bug tracker like mantis > or something like that? There's probably things that would need > adding, like being able to subscribe to get email notices of problems. I was thinking of making it from scratch, with the possibility of bringing in code from other projects to produce a cohesive tool that any LUG/group of LUGS could use. The questions side of things I was thinking would be made so that people could submit questions through the web (and possibly link into an e-mail account/SMS system so people can send questions in different ways). The person would enter the question, possibly a category, and the route they'd like to get their answer (Just e-mail/web or through a gathering) and details about the gathering they want to attend. The question would then get e-mailed out to everyone who's selected to get new questions (either all new questions, or all for that LUG/venue/particular gathering). All responses to the question (again web/sms/wap/email, etc) would get sent to the originator (and anyone subscribed to the question) and added to the discussion for that question. Before a gathering (I'm thinking pub social), the organiser would go onto the site and print out a summary of all the questions that people would like answered at that gathering (export to PDA compatible file/PDF an option), this would print all the questions that haven't been marked as 'answered', and depending on the quantity of responses those aswell. After a gathering, any answers would be entered onto the website against the relevant questions, and those questions then closed (e-mailing all interested users about the final answer). ----- Other things I thought might be useful to include in the package are: An in depth venue and gatherings/events database... with links to maps, directions, type of venue, features(net connection, pool table, private room, etc) for each venue. Gatherings would have details such as the type of gathering (social, hack/install fest, etc), and possibly a list of everyone interested in that event. Guides Archive... more than just a howto archive, more of a book about running Linux in the real world, written by the people who use it, the LUGs/users could make chapters/articles to go into an central ebook. Each chapter could be set up in a discussion-thread-like format (or wiki) while in development, and a system made so that when a chapter is finalised it is brought together nicely into one document. People would then be able to read the current finalised book online or download it as a PDF or XML. If it was made so that things are assigned to users/LUGs then we could make the site customisable enough that every LUG could have their own complete site within the system (template completely customisable through a content manager), then they could link to events/questions/venues from all LUGs on the system (especially useful for LUGs that share coverage or partner up as with ALUG), and generally interweave all the LUGs into one cohesive community. ----- So... as I have thoroughly bored everyone with my ramblings I'll stop there (I just realised how much rambling I'd done, lol). The ideas are just that at the moment, but if enough people are interested/would like to help develop the ideas into a workable system with me, then I'll draw up a plan and we can get the ball moving on getting a SourceForge project started. Duncan Sample http://www.antimatters.org.uk http://antimatters.homelinux.net

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Was: [alug social] lugs 'round these parts?
by Duncan Sample 27 Feb '04

27 Feb '04

Just moving this discussion to this list, and adding to it :o) -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Duncan Sample > To: social(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [alug social] lugs 'round these parts? > > Are the LUGs round generally weekly or monthly? Apart from the Cambridge one being weekly I haven't heard much about the LUGs round these parts, and the websites don't say much :o) > > I was wondering lately about whether it would be a good idea to start up a Cambridgeshire Fenland LUG (oh no, not another LUG!, lol), to bridge the gap between Peterborough and Cambridge. > > I want to have a regular social LUG like the classic LUG model of the home-brew club... people submitting bugs online and saying what gathering they're planning to go to, then people can try and find a solution if they have a free moment, and if it's not fixed online, I'd print the list of unsolved problems for people turning up that night and take the list along for people to thrash out. > > That's the main thing I thought of for the site, the fact that there would be a central store of people's questions (I know there's sites for that already), but most importantly, them saying where they're planning to meet, and whether they'll have their computer there for people to hack there ideas out until it's solved :o) > > I'm starting to make the site for it anyway, since I get bored at the weekend and start doodling new things (hey, it keeps me occupied) lol, just wanted to ask for the general opinions, and any other ideas for things that would help the running of LUGs :o) > > Duncan > > PS: Of course if it turns out my hair-brain idea would be useful, I'd see about starting an SF project for it so everyone can benefit -----MJ Ray replied----- > An ALUG question-site seems a good idea. I'd link to it. How would it > play with the email? Are you planning to use a bug tracker like mantis > or something like that? There's probably things that would need > adding, like being able to subscribe to get email notices of problems. I was thinking of making it from scratch, with the possibility of bringing in code from other projects to produce a cohesive tool that any LUG/group of LUGS could use. The questions side of things I was thinking would be made so that people could submit questions through the web (and possibly link into an e-mail account/SMS system so people can send questions in different ways). The person would enter the question, possibly a category, and the route they'd like to get their answer (Just e-mail/web or through a gathering) and details about the gathering they want to attend. The question would then get e-mailed out to everyone who's selected to get new questions (either all new questions, or all for that LUG/venue/particular gathering). All responses to the question (again web/sms/wap/email, etc) would get sent to the originator (and anyone subscribed to the question) and added to the discussion for that question. Before a gathering (I'm thinking pub social), the organiser would go onto the site and print out a summary of all the questions that people would like answered at that gathering (export to PDA compatible file/PDF an option), this would print all the questions that haven't been marked as 'answered', and depending on the quantity of responses those aswell. After a gathering, any answers would be entered onto the website against the relevant questions, and those questions then closed (e-mailing all interested users about the final answer). ----- Other things I thought might be useful to include in the package are: An in depth venue and gatherings/events database... with links to maps, directions, type of venue, features(net connection, pool table, private room, etc) for each venue. Gatherings would have details such as the type of gathering (social, hack/install fest, etc), and possibly a list of everyone interested in that event. Guides Archive... more than just a howto archive, more of a book about running Linux in the real world, written by the people who use it, the LUGs/users could make chapters/articles to go into an central ebook. Each chapter could be set up in a discussion-thread-like format (or wiki) while in development, and a system made so that when a chapter is finalised it is brought together nicely into one document. People would then be able to read the current finalised book online or download it as a PDF or XML. If it was made so that things are assigned to users/LUGs then we could make the site customisable enough that every LUG could have their own complete site within the system (template completely customisable through a content manager), then they could link to events/questions/venues from all LUGs on the system (especially useful for LUGs that share coverage or partner up as with ALUG), and generally interweave all the LUGs into one cohesive community. ----- So... as I have thoroughly bored everyone with my ramblings I'll stop there (I just realised how much rambling I'd done, lol). The ideas are just that at the moment, but if enough people are interested/would like to help develop the ideas into a workable system with me, then I'll draw up a plan and we can get the ball moving on getting a SourceForge project started. Duncan Sample http://www.antimatters.org.uk http://antimatters.homelinux.net -- "Imagine what it took for Microsoft to piss off so many people that they're all willing to work night and day without pay just to bring that company down." - Bruce Perens

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