Damnit, I'd better start reading up on IRC quickly, then. I was thinking that if I knew how I would put up a page on the website that is cleverly linked to a simple table, so it can be updated, and folks visit the site over the next few days, update the tables with if they are coming and what they are bringing, and Bob's yr uncle. I'm probably unlikely to learn how to do this in the next few days though, although i enthusiastically printed the few pages of html tags david pointed me to. That's a bit like sending away for a clutch cable thinking I will be able to build a Ducati probably. Jen