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Small Linux USB Wireless
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi After recent problems with my PCMCIA wireless card I have switched to USB wireless. I have a Pluscom stick and it is quite big. Does anyone recommend a small one - Linux compatible - that doesn't stick out too much, this one I have is about two inches out the side. I like my Pluscom because you just plug it in and it works - as it a RaLink based one. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Mailing List Etiquette...
by Brett Parker 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi, Just thought that as we're getting a few more people joining the list, it would be good to actually start documenting the mailing list etiquette. So, I've started a magic page on our wiki, if people have more to add to it, please feel free. The page is: http://www.alug.org.uk/MailingListEtiquette Cheers, -- Brett Parker http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ PGP Fingerprint 1A9E C066 EDEE 6746 36CB BD7F 479E C24F 95C7 1D61

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Re: [ALUG] 10.10 Running Perfectly Well
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Marcus I think my locking up problem was down to my wireless card. I have never had this happen before, it is a very reliable Edimax card. I had a Pluscom USB wireless stick floating around and that works out of the box too and so far it seems ok. Fingers crossed it seems ok. I have pulled out the power supply and put it in a number of times. I have also pulled the wireless stick out and put it back in a number of times and so far so good. Brilliant. It also mean I have a PCMCIA slot free for my USB 2 card when I need it. Simon On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Marcus Harris <runlevelten(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Hallelujah! > > I'm glad you've got this sorted out. > > By the way, thought I'd drop you a quick note - when you completely > change the subject line, you start a new thread in, well > all threaded mail readers, so we have all got (at least) 6 or 7 > threads on this one subject, and a few more on other problems with > your R31. > > Most reasonable list members would think this makes it a waste of time > to participate in any of them, as you have a bunch of different > threads on that one subject with one or two posts in them, and it > quickly becomes hard to track replies if the conversation gets large. > > Some people will also get annoyed by it enough to (eventually) filter > the offending poster out. > > Just mentioning this so you can have a couple of pointers that will > help you get more help, faster, with greater coherence, and not offend > some people's eyes. > > Glad you're sorted, > > Marcus > -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Gnome 3 Requirements
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi With the next version of Ubuntu schedule for release in April and it should include Gnome 3. Gnome 3 was supposed to be released in Sept 2010 and included in10.10, but it got put back to Mar 2011 and is being included in 11.04. Does anyone know what system requirements it will need. The latter versions of Gnome 2 required less memory and hardware than previous versions and where better suited for older machines, but what about Gnome 3. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Running Perfectly Well
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi Success! I am now running Ubuntu 10.10 and it is fine with no power issues. It will boot off battery fine and I can also remove the power adapter while it is running. Brilliant. I did a fresh install - no power issues. I ran update manager, all updates installed - no power issues. It must have been an upgrade issue before (from 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10). Glad I set up a separate partition to save all my files on, it has made this trial and error a lot easier. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Live No Power Issues
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi As you know I had problems in Ubuntu 10.10 where my R31 wouldnt run off battery. It would hang on boot if on battery and if the power adapter came out it would hang too. I wiped it, ran the 9.10 live CD and didnt have this problem. So I installed 9.10 still no problem. I ran the 10.04 live CD and didnt have this problem. So I installed 10.04 still no problem. I just ran the 10.10 live CD and am not having this problem. So would you wipe and install 10.10 or still with 10.04? I am presuming the problem was because I originally installed 9.10, then upgraded to 10.04, then upgraded to 10.10. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.04 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Wont Boot Live CD
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi I am trying to resolve a problem with 10.10. I had it installed on my R31 and it wouldnt run on battery and if you booted from power adapter and then removed it, it would hang the machine. I wiped and installed 9.10, it didnt do it. I wiped and installed 10.04, it didnt do it. I ordered a 10.10 CD from eBay - because I didnt have any blanks or a burner in my ThinkPad. My machine wont boot from it. It will boot live and install from the 9.10 CD I have (which is an official disc from Ubuntu) and it will boot live and install from the 10.04 CD I burnt a while ago on another machine. So why wont this CD boot. I tried it in another machine and it booted ok. So I am lost now. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.04 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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[ALUG Announce] Norwich 2nd Thursday Mub Peet
by Adam Bower 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Norwich 2nd Thursday Pub Meet This months second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on 13th January 2011 (err, tonight!) at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA http://www.thecoachthorperoad.co.uk/ although their website currently has no content on it, hah!) There should be people there from 8pm, If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. See you all tonight, so be there or... err, somewhere else. Adam -- New signature required, suggestions on a post card please. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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R31 Locks when removing adapter
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi I have an R31. It came with a dead battery. I bought a genuine IBM one from ebay and it works, but if you pull the lead out while it is charging it locks the laptop up. Two of the lights under the screen - caps lock and the screen one - flash. It does it in Ubuntu, but works fine in XP. Any ideas? Simon

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Re: [ALUG] OK, so as an interim measure...
by Anthony Anson 11 Jan '11

11 Jan '11

nev young wrote: > On 10/01/11 17:58, Anthony Anson wrote: >> nev young wrote: >>> There's still my place. We could even get some carry outs from the FC. >> >> Mmmmmm. I has a ½ galleon kerry-oot flask - FC's deposit on bockles is >> somewhat heavy. >> >> Might have to bring walking frame innit. >> > FC does 2 and 4 pt cardboard boxen for free. Troo, but: When in Rome, one takes some home, But when in Norwich, one should forwich For tasty pies and rolls in piles, And spots of WAP and Penguin files Mmmm! With the beef a jar of wallop, Horseradish relish, goodly dollop And, mighty Crashbang! What am I hearing? Has the barman dropped an earring? Ah, relieved looks over faces pass: Not an earring, just a glass... -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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OK, so as an interim measure...
by Anthony Anson 10 Jan '11

10 Jan '11

Supposing I do decide to dump Xan dross - I can get the contents of this HDD onto a Mini SD card. But, not wanting to burn my boats until I have a decet distro up and running, what do I need to do to copy it so that it's bootable from USB card reader? Or failing that, memory stick? Thinks: prolly better to install the new distro to a memory stick and get used to it first? IIRC, I had prombles getting this (early) Eee to boot from USB. Nev! Marmalade sometime next week? (ALUG minimeet in Fat Cat innit) -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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10.04 No Lock Up
by Simon Royal 10 Jan '11

10 Jan '11

Hi. If any of you are still following my saga, I have more to add. Ubuntu 10.10 would lock my ThinkPad R31 up if the power adapter was removed or if I booted off battery it would lock once into Ubuntu. I booted the 9.10 live CD and it didnt do it. So I installed it. No problems. I then ran the 10.04 live CD and it didnt do it. It ran the 10.04 live CD off the battery and I could pull the adapter out and put it back in, no worries. So it is either a problem with 10.10 in general, or because originally I installed 9.10 upgraded via update manager to 10.04 and then to 10.10 and it something to do with upgrading distros. But anyway it has solved it and I am now installing 10.04 as I write this. Simon

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Battery Lock Up... In 10.10 Not 9.10
by Simon Royal 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

Hi This is a follow up to my email earlier today regarding my battery issues in Ubuntu 10.10. (see it below). I am writing this from within Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD off the battery. OK, so the battery is still not charging properly but this is a battery issue and has the same probs under XP. Under 10.10 if I booted up off the battery or pulled the plug while it was on it would hang the machine, but it isnt doing it under 9.10. This at least gives me a bit of hope that it isnt hardware related or a problem with my ThinkPad more of a Ubuntu issue. Can anyone shed any light on this. I might just go ahead and install 9.10 over 10.10 - at least then I could run it off battery. Simon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and Ubuntu 10.10 The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct time left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I have bigger problems in Ubuntu. It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets into Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same. It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this is more of a problem with Ubuntu specifically. I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=off - but that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of screen and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and restored grub. I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me from using Ubuntu all the time. Any ideas? Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Re: [ALUG] OK, so as an interim measure...
by Anthony Anson 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

nev young wrote: > On 07/01/11 19:52, Anthony Anson wrote: >> >> Nev! Marmalade sometime next week? (ALUG minimeet in Fat Cat innit) >> > > As long as it's not Tuesday. > Will be out all pee em > > Prolly not a good idea to turn up at the quack at 4 pee em on Monday > issped either :-) Ta - aisle limber-up the planner. In the meantime, delve into the BIOS to see whether I've missed something. I presume the EeeBIOS can be updated if it won't boot from USB in this early version - others with later ones do. And that will mean bringing the Ikea^h^h^flatpack^h^h^flaptop 'cos the Eee won't play with the Portly Pussy wi-fi innit. <cue whinge about oomeback> A bag full of Acer, Eee, peripherals etc really needs wheels. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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Battery Lock Up... Please Help
by Simon Royal 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

Hi I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and Ubuntu 10.10 The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct time left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I have bigger problems in Ubuntu. It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets into Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same. It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this is more of a problem with Ubuntu specifically. I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=off - but that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of screen and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and restored grub. I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me from using Ubuntu all the time. Any ideas? Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Coverdisc
by Anthony Anson 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

A while ago I bought a Linux and Open Source Genius Guide. I didn't find a genius, but the coverdisc had Moblin 2.1 Beta; Google Chrome OS; Fedora 13 Alpha; Absolute Linux 13 and Ubantu 10.04 Apha 3. I don't intend investigating Google Chrome or Fedora, but are any of the others useful, especially as a replacement for Xandros on the Eee? (I run Debian on the flaptop and the big box...) -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/

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Evolution errors never seem to show the reason, is this normal?
by Chris G 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

My wife uses Evolution as her main mail and appointments program. Most of the time it works OK but it seems most unhelpful when things do go wrong. For example she recently tried to send an E-Mail and "Error while sending message" appeared in the status line, but nothing more, no reason. As far as I can remember from previous errors appearing there's *never* a reason for the error. I remember it took ages to find a simple type in an E-Mail address because of this, it just said "Error while sending message" and left the poor user to work out that there was a comma instead of a full stop in one of the addressees. So is more detailed information logged anywhere and/or can one turn on more detailed information in the status line? (BTW we can't move from Evolution, at least not at the moment, because it's the only program which will synchronise with her Palm. In the longer term the phone will need replacing and then we can consider Thunderbird/Lightning or whatever) -- Chris Green

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Linux assistance needed in Manningtree, Essex
by max＠maxeaves.co.uk 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

Hello Anglian Linux User Group, My name is Max and I just wanted to introduce myself to this email distribution forum. About 2 years ago, I set up an Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an old desktop for a friend of my father. All has been working well - there is nothing special about this installation [it is mainly used for web browsing and the GIMP], but I was informed that it has now stopped working and the distro will refuse to boot. I moved to Buckinghamshire, so I am not able to physically help out, so there is now the opportunity of a nice little consultancy. I am looking for somebody who knows their way around the command line, and is happy with fixing problems in GRUB2. I know that the person will be able to pay for the problem to be resolved, but if anybody is interested, if you can send me over 'years experience with Linux' and 'rate' you would want to charge. Kind Regards Max

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Re: [ALUG] Evolution errors never seem to show the reason, is this normal?
by Chris G 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:09:40PM +0000, Anthony Anson wrote: > Chris G wrote: > >My wife uses Evolution as her main mail and appointments program. Most > >of the time it works OK but it seems most unhelpful when things do go wrong. > > > >For example she recently tried to send an E-Mail and "Error while sending > >message" appeared in the status line, but nothing more, no reason. As > >far as I can remember from previous errors appearing there's *never* a > >reason for the error. I remember it took ages to find a simple type in > >an E-Mail address because of this, it just said "Error while sending > >message" and left the poor user to work out that there was a comma > >instead of a full stop in one of the addressees. > > > >So is more detailed information logged anywhere and/or can one turn on > >more detailed information in the status line? > > > >(BTW we can't move from Evolution, at least not at the moment, because > >it's the only program which will synchronise with her Palm. In the > >longer term the phone will need replacing and then we can consider > >Thunderbird/Lightning or whatever) > > Not tried Evolution and was thinking of doing so - thanks for the warning. > > I find Thunderbird is fine for mail and not bad for news - though > the filters in the latter are pretty poor. > > In the case of that comma, Thunderbird would have alerted you to an > 'illegal' character in the address and it would have refused to send > it. > That's all one usually needs but Evolution doesn't help. -- Chris Green

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why won't it start?
by Chris Walker 06 Jan '11

06 Jan '11

I've just grabbed a copy of Xara (http://www.xaraxtreme.org/). I remember it from Acorn days and it was a superb program then. I downloaded the AutoPackage Archive and ran that. It complained about some missing files and offered to fetch them. I ok'd that and off it went. But once that was completed, it didn't return to the command prompt. Instead it said it was resuming installation. I waited and waited and gave up in the end and killed it with Ctrl-C. I then restarted the install and this time it went straight through. It has appeared in the menu (I'm running KDE on Mandriva 64 bit) but when I click on it, it produces a bar on the taskbar with a hourglass on it, but the bar disappears with no output anywhere. I've done a 'dmesg | tail' but that doesn't produce anything since a previous error message which I knew about. How can I find out what's going wrong please? Cardboard programmer time! I did a chmod on the install file as root. I then did the install as root. Could that be anything to do with it, and if so, how do I fix it? Apologies if this appears twice. I sent it from the wrong account first time. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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Request Tracker (RT)
by Mark Rogers 05 Jan '11

05 Jan '11

I've installed RT to be used for managing incoming support emails. Having got it installed and "working" I'm finding it very hard to work out what to do next in terms of actually using it. (Eg I created myself a user, but can't see how to let that user see incoming emails, although I can see them fine logged in as root.) Are there any good guides to using RT around? Google has let me down so far, and the RT wiki seems a bit to broad to get me started. Where I need to get to pretty quickly is having a number of users, any of whom can take a ticket and work with it, or allocate it to another user where necessary. I also need to manage the email process (I have one particular client I want to push in this direction, but to do that I need to make sure they don't get most of the automated emails otherwise they'll be swamped as they send us probably 200 emails a week that will become separate tickets once I get this working). -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Lock Up Resolved
by Simon Royal 03 Jan '11

03 Jan '11

Hi Following up on my problem with Ubuntu locking up my ThinkPad R31 yesterday. Removing the internal wireless card - an Intel 2200BG - resolved it. Not sure whether it was a general problem with Ubuntu and that card or just my card. It has been floating around in my spares box for a while. Another thing I noticed was yesterday the fan would come on every ten minutes, quite forcefully. I thought it was just because I was doing a lot on the machine - well, I was just surfing, DropBox and Skype, nothing much really. Today, I have heard the machine fans only twice all day. I have done about the same on it. I actually dont do much else ever on my laptop. I am wondering whether it is related. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Sleep/Hibernate R31 Issues
by Simon Royal 03 Jan '11

03 Jan '11

Hi I've been playing and digging about info on getting a ThinkPad R31 to sleep under Ubuntu. It seems to be a sticky issue under most distros. It goes to sleep but it does not wake. No matter what you do you cannot get it to come back. So, until I could find a work around I set closing the lid to 'Blank Screen' so at least the screen went off. So Suspend (Fn+F4) doesn't work. However, I did get Hibernate to work using both Fn+F12 and setting 'close lid' to hibernate. It takes a few seconds to wind down. Waking up is fairly nippy - faster than Ive had on other machines - it boots, IBM splash screen, grub, 20 seconds of flickering etc and it comes up to a password and bang - everything is there. I can live with that, but I really would like to stop it asking for a password on resume. I cant find any option in under the Power Manager screen. Does anyone know of a way stopping it asking for a password. If anyone know of a way of getting sleep to work properly - ie lid shut, machine shuts off, lid open, machine comes back to life - then it would be appreciated. This seems to be the last glitch - besides the ThinkPad button and audio buttons - to be ironed out. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Simple (?) HTML question, wanted, a way to do nothing
by Chris G 03 Jan '11

03 Jan '11

I want to implement a link to a CGI script that, when you click on it, does nothing to the currently displayed page. I.e. I want the existing page to continue to be displayed when I click on the link (and as a result of course the CGI script executes). Actually even more perfect *might* be to force a redisplay of the current page as the CGI script will (hopefully) modify the page. This sounds as if it must be something one often wants to do but being naive as regards HTML/CGI I don't know how to do it. -- Chris Green

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ThinkPad R31 Locks Up Ubuntu But Not XP
by Simon Royal 03 Jan '11

03 Jan '11

Hi I have had my ThinkPad for just under a week. The day it arrived I upgraded it (maxxed the RAM to 2x512MB sticks, upped the hard drive to a 60GB and fitted an Intel 2200BG internal wireless card without antenna) and installed XP Home and Ubuntu 10.10. It has been running fine and I haven't changed the hardware at all. This evening it started locking up shortly after boot. It will run for about 2 minutes then lock up. It requires the power button to be held down until the machine turns off. This has done it about 5 times in the last hour. My default OS is Ubuntu, so I booted into XP and it doesnt do it. I am writing this email on it in XP and it has been running fine for about 30 mins. Any ideas? Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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