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Re: Obvious plug <g>
by James Green 06 Jul '99

06 Jul '99

Resent per error on list: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Mark J Ray wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 03:54:05PM +0100, Andrew Savory wrote: > > > To place a GUI abstraction on this and expect it > > > to cope with everything is a wrong turn. > > No, it's not. > > Yes it is. No it's not ;-) > > If the underlying config files are ordered and structured sensibly, it > > should not be a problem. And quite frankly, a GUI interface is often far, > > far easier for novice users than hacking a text file. > > No, you're talking about a GUI interface (== A Good Thing), > while I was talking about a Control-Panel like GUI obstruction. Either way, GUIs, when implemented properly, work to effectively limit the damage a user can do be presenting him/her with a set of possible options, rather then risk them typing things in where they should not, or even walking around in the dark not knowing where to start. > > I don't see why you should have to understand the structure of the system. > > Not in general use, perhaps, but if you want to do something > more complicated than an iMac can do, prepare to learn. In a proper GUI, you should only need to enter the relevant section for what you want, or be asked. > > > for concealment of the complexity (in the quoted paragraph) is to argue > > > against Linux. > > You, sir, are talking nonsense. If to argue for concealment of complexity > > is to argue against Linux, why then are almost all the major distributions > > trying to do just that? Take RedHat, with their extensive GUI config tools > > (for better or for worse). Take Debian, with their extensive package > > management system. All attempts to make things less complex for the end > > user. Why? Because at the end of the day, complexity is not what the end > > user wants. Accessibility, flexibility and stability is what it's all > > about. > > You, madam, are talking nonsense. Complexity *is* what the > user wants, although only the brave admit it. What's the first > thing a sane user does when contemplating the install? Looks > to make sure that most (all?) of their hardware is supported. 1. Define "sane" in terms of a computer user. 2. I don't remember the last time someone asked me if their hardware was compatible with Windows or any other OS for that matter, they assume so. > If it doesn't support their super-widget-drive 2935, they don't > install. Flexibility breeds complexity. Accessibility > provides a natural brake on it. Correct. > What is done by most distributions is not concealment of the > underlying system, for it is still accessible when you need to > do something not forseen by the config tool admins. No-one can > really say that using one of the current generation of > distribution-supplied configuration tools really helps you to > make a start on manual configuration. Is this, a family of > completely dissimilar distribution-, release- and even > system-specific fundamental tools where you want to go? Well, > that's your choice. As soon as it moves to try concealment (as > RedHat's *cfg tools look as if they will soon try), you make a > lot of enemies, including me. > > What is needed, now that we're starting to get the FHS kicking > in and a regular structure for configuration files under /etc, > is a tool that uses this structure and puts nicer interfaces on > the parts it knows about, while still allowing you to hack it > directly if needed. It could even adapt to config file formats > it doesn't understand, as far as possible. Quite. It needs to have properties of AI in that sense. > Now please make some attempt at thinking my points through > before responding, instead of just flaming at random prejudices > and misunderstandings, else the list's Signal-Noise ratio is > doomed. Point is, the average user, ime, doesn't want to know about hardware or configuation tools. They just want it at the level of abstration they can understand, and for it to work. When this isn't available, they call in the spotty kid next door. Windows, imo, has done a good attempt at producing configuration tools for particular jobs. Unfortunately, when it doesn't work, it general has dire consequences, and since the registry isn't a dream to administer, the average user is doomed to reinstallion and that, in the words of Microsoft themselves, increases the "TCO". James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Obvious plug <g>
by James Green 04 Jul '99

04 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hey all, I forgot I even did this: "Looking forward to the New Dawn" http://linuxtoday.com/stories/7362.html Heh, it actually got published :0) Whaddaya think? James Green. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] I have sound!
by John Woodard 02 Jul '99

02 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Martyn B. Drake <martyn.drake(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [ALUG] I have sound! /snip > Going to get my new SoundBlaster PCI128 to work tonight. It's interesting > to note that these things are not Creative cards, but rather Ensoniq. All > in all, I'm a little disapointed with it in a Windows environment. Is the > Live card any good? /snip All I can say is that it is the nearest thing to hifi I have ever come across in a computer. The 4 speaker 'Environmental Audio' is fun (not really bothered if they ever get that bit working in Linux) but just the front signals injected into a half decent hifi system is nothing short of stunning! Regards, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Kernel install?
by John Woodard 02 Jul '99

02 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Sorry about all these newbie questions, I really ought to post them on uk.comp.os.linux, but it seems a little more personal asking you good people. After a few re-installs of RH6 after installing a new kernel I thought I'd ask where I was going wrong. This is what I've done so far: cd /usr/src<ENTER> "obvious what this does" mv linux linux.old<ENTER> "rename my old linux directory which is actually a symbolic link to a directory named linux-2.2.5-15?" tar xzf *path*/linux-2.2.10.tar.gz<ENTER> "recursively untar and ungzip a directory named linux under the current directory" cd linux<ENTER> "obvious" make config *or menuconfig/xconfig*<ENTER> "using the howto for guidance - sensible" make dep<ENTER> "dependancies?? - don't really understand this" make clean<ENTER> "cleans up the config file? - not sure" make bzImage<ENTER> "compiles a compressed binary image - I think?" make modules<ENTER> "not sure got this of a newsgroup" make modules_install<ENTER> "as above could be dangerous?" "this is where I start to get confused!" cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz<ENTER> "copy my new compressed binary image to the path in my lilo.conf which is another symbolic link to an image file named vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 don't know if this is significant?" lilo -v<ENTER> "run lilo in verbose mode to load it?" reboot *or shutdown -r now*<ENTER> "obvious" I now get errors on boot up telling me that bootmap?? or something similar points to the wrong kernal version and some other errors which I can't remember (not a great deal of help that I know :-} ) lots of red text though! My screen scrolls too quickly to pick up what these errors are is there a log file somewhere? Can any of you good folks confirm that my understanding of what is going on is either correct (unlikely), total crap (more likely) or go post this to alt.linux.newbies-come-here-to-be-ridiculed (highly likely). :-) Regards, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Scanners in Linux
by John Woodard 01 Jul '99

01 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Has anybody had any experience with flatbed scanners in Linux My cheapo parallel port jobbie won't work in a real OS so I'm going to replace it with a nice shiny new one. I'm thinking about a scsi model, because I think I read somewhere that they are more likely to work in Linux. Any ideas on which scanners work in Linux or which to avoid and is there a Linux equivalent to TWAIN? I'm only looking for a low end A4 device for general photos and OCR stuff, not too expensive around 150.00 is my limit. Regards, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Hmmm...
by Brett Parker 22 Jun '99

22 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I think that there should be a change to the ol' About ALUG page...maybe the socialising bit should be emphasized ;-) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Pics from yesterdays meet
by Gareth Watts 21 Jun '99

21 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk A few shots are up at http://omnipotent.net/alug2/ Some of the pics are somewhat less than perfect due to my tinkering with the settings (the camera is < 1 week old so I need the practise) ;-) My thanks to the organisers for an interesting afternoon! Gareth [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Next meeting..
by Martyn B. Drake 21 Jun '99

21 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk All in all, a good afternoon was had yesterday - particularly liked that MP3 player :) Anyway, suppose we ought to start discussing a venue for the third meeting at some stage - anybody have any suggestions? M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] ALUG2
by MJ Ray 19 Jun '99

19 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk James Green <jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk> writes: > With a bit of luck I'll be getting my dad to drop me off with my kit, but > seeing as I'm only a Norwich resident, not student of UEA, I have no idea > whereabouts this Union House place is. > > We'll prolly be coming from the Fiveways roundabout, down past Earlham > School, left into the campus. From memory there's barriers and a car park. > Any further directions please? Right... I'm anticipating being on campus quite early, so I'll try to tell the people on the barriers about the meeting, or you should just be able to drive straight into the main car park (barrier isn't often down on a Sunday). Sometime around 1, I'll attach penguins to the lamposts on the way out of the car park to direct you towards Union House and to the meeting room. So just follow the penguins. Or look at the directions on the ALUG site. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Improves CPU/video memory bandwidth by anything from 20 to 50%. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG2
by Andrew Savory 19 Jun '99

19 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi all, I updated the ALUG website last night to reflect recent changes and to include details of ALUG2. In particular, see http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/meetings.html for information on getting here, etc. As before, try and let us know if you're definitely coming, but even if you don't, please feel free to drop by on the day! Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Tomorrow!
by Daniel Smith 19 Jun '99

19 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello All I will be going to the meeting tomorrow and I am able to offer a lift to anybody who needs it. I will leaving from Braintree and then going to Sudbury to Pick Malcolm up. If anybody else on the way requires a lift then let me know. I've got room for two more. Regards -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Further Help
by Daniel Smith 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello All again Thanks for the previous help, worked a treat. Sorry about the Dual, Duel or even Jewel mistake. Second request for help now. You may all recall I posted a message a few weeks ago about setting up a mail server for my company. If I bring a 'box' and modem along to the meeting on Sunday will anybody be able to spare the time to help me set one up? I will warn you all now, I don't really have a clue what I'm doing. Regards -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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HELP!
by Daniel Smith 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello! I know that this is not the place to ask but HELP! With the impending meeting I thought I'd have a little play with Red Hat. OK I've got to confess I haven't 'played' with Linux for over two months now! I've been using, dare I say it Micro$haft Windoze 95. I had installed Red Hat from the PC Plus cover disk onto a third hard drive but some how I've lost the duel boot options, can anybody tell me how to create a boot floppy so I can get Linux back? Thanks! -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] HELP!
by Thomas May 15 Jun '99

15 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:52:21 Mark J Ray wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Daniel Smith <daniel(a)capricorn1.demon.co.uk> writes: > > > I had installed Red Hat from the PC Plus cover disk onto a third hard > > drive but some how I've lost the duel boot options, can anybody tell me > > how to create a boot floppy so I can get Linux back? > > Somewhere on the CD, there should be some .IMG files, RAWRITE.EXE and > some instructions, which should tell you how to make a "rescue disk" > and use it. Been a while since I did that, so I'll stop there. > Better yet, the Red Hat cd is bootable anyway, if you've got a newish PC :) Thom [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] HELP!
by Mark J Ray 15 Jun '99

15 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Daniel Smith <daniel(a)capricorn1.demon.co.uk> writes: > I had installed Red Hat from the PC Plus cover disk onto a third hard > drive but some how I've lost the duel boot options, can anybody tell me > how to create a boot floppy so I can get Linux back? Somewhere on the CD, there should be some .IMG files, RAWRITE.EXE and some instructions, which should tell you how to make a "rescue disk" and use it. Been a while since I did that, so I'll stop there. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Beware the man with the early Sony Handicam... [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 2 - another possible event
by Andrew Savory 15 Jun '99

15 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Here's a thought, of the kind that only occurs having spent an evening in the pub. On a similar vein to the editor paintball wars they have in the States, I'd like to propose an "email client Pool tournament". So far, we have Pine, Balsa, Gnus and Mutt. Whaddayareckon? Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] (no subject)
by Mark J Ray 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk "John Woodard" <jwoodard(a)tesco.net> writes: > Things like compiling the kernel, installing .rpms and getting my poxy sound > card (SBLive value) to work on a RH6.0 distro would be great! I'm sure that we can do a kernel compile somewhere. Installing RPMs would need a RedHat box, so maybe we can show you that on your machine when fixing your soundcard (if it's possible). > Anybody needing a lift from the Diss area mail me. Likewise, anyone between Norwich and King's Lynn can contact me for a lift. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Is it Friday today? [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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(no subject)
by John Woodard 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Excuse the newbie status but would it be possible to go through some fairly basic stuff on Sunday as well as all those really neat demos like last time. Things like compiling the kernel, installing .rpms and getting my poxy sound card (SBLive value) to work on a RH6.0 distro would be great! Anybody needing a lift from the Diss area mail me. Looking forward to it. Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Network connectivity
by Martyn B. Drake 12 Jun '99

12 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk With regards to hubs and so on - what's going to be available for us in the way of networking on Sunday? Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Network connectivity
by Mark J Ray 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk writes: > Failing that, we'll have to make do with sneakernet :-/ Well, I've got an extremely long bit of serial cable... I may even be able to *ahem* "borrow" some patch cables. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/entsdb?Q [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] [ALUG-announce] ALUG2, Norwich, 20 June 1999
by Mark J Ray 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > For the sake of definiteness, would you care to put a date on this? Do you mean > 20 or 27 June? See subject line. 20 June. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/entsdb?Q [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[ALUG-announce] ALUG2, Norwich, 20 June 1999
by Mark J Ray 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk * List: alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi, A room has been booked in Union House at UEA for ALUG2 a week on Sunday, from 1400 until 1900. If you can now tell me what we're going to do, I'll publicise it on the newsgroups. We may be able to set up a IP-masq network connection for the meeting, too. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ require("witty_comment"); [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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distributed.net
by Paul.Russell＠uea.ac.uk 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk So, you know all that spare processor time you've got? Feel like donating it to a (very) worthy cause? I've set up a team for ALUG on distributed.net. If you've not come across them before, distributed.net is a distributed computer on a quite insane scale. They currently have somewhere in the region of 175,000 members working together on somewhere in the region on 220,000 computers ranging from 386s up to supercomputers. As the distributed.net tagline says: The largest computer on earth. It's all pretty impressive stuff - distributed.net is currently working on breaking an RC5 code (basically to prove that it's possible to do it in a sensible amount of time) If you'd care to join distributed.net and the ALUG team, then we'll see just how much useful work our computers can get done while we're not using them. Take a look at http://www.distributed.net/ for more details. See you next sunday! Paul Russell [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Lift share?
by Mark J Ray 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> writes: > I've been suspiciously quiet on the whole matter cos frankly I'm not sure > myself! We were thinking some time fairly soon at UEA, but I'm not sure of > the exact location - possibly in the Student Union building here, but I > can't say for definite till I speak with Mark. Hi, I'm back ;) We can certainly hold a meeting in one of the meetings rooms in Union House, or possibly the Hive bar if it's not in use, but I need a suggestion of a time before I can see what we've got. Next weekend or the one after? Also, UH isn't blessed with very good net connections in/near the possible meeting rooms, so we'll be confined to localnet, I suspect. Shame. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/entsdb?Q [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Lift share?
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ..and what topics? Emmm... chocolate... Andi "Martyn B. Drake" <martyn.drake(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> on 06/03/99 03:30:36 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] Lift share? * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk At 03:20 PM 6/3/99 +0100, you wrote: >erm. where is the next meeting... . and when? Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * **************************************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Hi I'm Here!
by Daniel Smith 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello All I was unable to make the first meeting :o( due to other commitments and I have only just read my messages since the start of May, looks like I missed a great day! I have two questions for you all and then I will go back to lurking for the time being:- 1) When is the next meeting? Soon hopefully! Any locations in mind? I'm happy to travel anywhere and can give lifts, I'm in Braintree in Essex but don't mind going a bit out of my way to pick people up if required. 2) This is the big one! I've been asked to set up a mail server at work, my boss isn't as IT literate as she likes to think and can't understand why I don't just walk into PC World buy some software and have it up and running in ten minutes flat. I have decided to "stick it" on a Linux box. Now I need help as I've only installed Linux once (Red-hat from PC-Plus) and due to lack of time didn't get to play with it properly. The Network server is Novell Netware 3.2 (at least it not Gates!) and the clients are all Win 95 or 98. I need a mail server that will periodically dial up the ISP (Pipex) and then download and distribute the mail to all of the clients. Any mail that is sent from the desktop will go to the Linux box and wait until it dials up. I suppose the desktop mail client will be Micro$haft Outlook as that's the main software that all of the duffers I work with can understand. Can anybody Help? Please. Reply's to the group or direct to myself are welcomed and appreciated! Thank you. -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Lift share?
by Malcolm Locke 03 Jun '99

03 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Anybody interested in sharing a lift to the next meet? I'm near Sudbury in Suffolk, could share with Ipswich, Colchester Bury st Edmunds sort o area. Mal [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Next meeting?
by Neill Newman 26 May '99

26 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Owen Synge wrote: > > > off track > > for those interested I got my voodoo3 working under linux with 3D > > acceleration and the q3test demo.. it's damm good ;) > > Is this the graphics card for Linux? I am not sure what you are asking, but hopefully this will satisfy ya The card is a 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 PCI version, The X server has been written for the banshee (the banshee and the voodoo3 are effectively the same, just the V3 is faster) and it works fine, the 3D Glide librarys have also been written, and are in alpha.. I have not personally experienced any bugs, but the drivers need "tweaking" after installation in order to get them to work, this will all be sorted out in time. the Quake3 test client (as far as I know) only runs under linux atm.. and I have tried it with a P166MMX, with 64Meg EDO ram, the V3, and a slow hard disk, and it is very impressive ;)... and Quake2 is unbelieveable fast at 1240x1048 !!! does that answer your question ?? Scoobz > > Owen -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Newman Tel: Mobile 07970 673722 Department of Electronics Systems Engineering Work 01206 873708 University of Essex Fax: Work 01206 872900 http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/index.html email: njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Redhat 6.0 ISO's
by Mark J Ray 25 May '99

25 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk The digest isn't yet active, by the way. I still need to debug a few things. Perhaps the fact that people are using it already is a hint that it should go live ASAP. Interesting. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Avoid 3 things: Logic errors and statisticians who can't count. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Redhat 6.0 ISO's
by Ben White 25 May '99

25 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk If people are still looking for ISO's, I have found these. ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/Linux/redhat6/ ftp://ftp.muni.cz/pub/linux/local ftp://ftp.interpath.net/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-6.0/ISO Looks like some are updated daily. Could whoever run's the list please make it so people can mail to the list even if they are just subscribed to the alug-digest. I only want to receive the digest, but was unable to post without being on the main list. Ben White [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Next meeting?
by John Woodard 25 May '99

25 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Any thoughts on when the next meeting will be? I have a couple of thousand newbie questions for all you Linux gurus. :) Regards BJ (BigJohn) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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PINE // was Re: RedHat 6.0 problems
by Mark J Ray 24 May '99

24 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk M(enu) S(etup) C(onfig), then look for "customized-hdrs" and A(dd) values to it. To see the xtra headers in the message composition screen, press ^R on the header (for Rich header). Is that what you mean? Of course, you should be using better mail clients than PINE these days. Of course, there is always a better mail client no matter what you use ;) -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 May '99

24 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Bring back glint ... all is forgiven!! Mark J Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> on 23/05/99 21:55:15 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, > browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... > which is kinda neat ;) Oh no, not unless rpm has become a lot less chaotic and they've added a lot of clever stuff to gnorpm. When he says apt-get goes and installs what you tell it, he means and all the right versions of the stuff it depends upon too. Very nice if you're used to playing "hunt the rpm". -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * **************************************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 May '99

24 May '99

Bring back glint ... all is forgiven!! Mark J Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> on 23/05/99 21:55:15 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, > browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... > which is kinda neat ;) Oh no, not unless rpm has become a lot less chaotic and they've added a lot of clever stuff to gnorpm. When he says apt-get goes and installs what you tell it, he means and all the right versions of the stuff it depends upon too. Very nice if you're used to playing "hunt the rpm". -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * ****************************************************************************************

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 May '99

24 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I have a machine which has been running RedHat Bluesky aka preRH6.0/Rawhide 1.0 for a while now with no major problems. True Enlightenment is a bit(!) flakey, but hey it's version 0.15 beta. I'm running SuSE 6.0/6.1 everywhere else now. No problems at all, other than that all .rpm based software seems to be built for RedHat machines. Andi James Green <jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk> on 23/05/99 22:28:15 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Sun, 23 May 1999, Martyn B. Drake wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > I'm thinking of doing that myself .. RedHat 6.0 has generally been okay, but > it's still rough round the edges. Does anybody actually test this stuff > before it's released? RH5.9 was the 6.0 test-release wasn't it? Now, got a question... How do you insert custom mail headers (for a faq) in pine? James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * **************************************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Martyn B. Drake 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I'm thinking of doing that myself .. RedHat 6.0 has generally been okay, but it's still rough round the edges. Does anybody actually test this stuff before it's released? Let's hope we've got the latest Debian released ISO laying around at work .. think I'll bag myself a copy of that if it is :) Regards, Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk> To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk >> A large number of reports of stuff wrong with Gnome/E in the RH6 RPMS - >> this is understandable, Gnome at least has come a long way since the >> RH6 build; > >yeah Gnome/E is a little flakey as yet, but hopefully it will mature >with age.. E certain looks good even if it does crash every few seconds >!!.. If you can bear it, I'd strongly recomend ditching RH6 and moving up to Debian. I'm now happily running Enlightenment DR15.5 and Gnome, I've had very few problems (and most of those were caused by me erm 'playing') I have to say, it's 'quite pretty' and it's getting quite close to the point where you could put it on a desktop machine without too many problems. All we need now is a few shit hot productivity apps and we're away. I'm waiting for gnumeric myself... One of the *really* nice things about debian is it's package management. I've not had to compile a single program since installing deb. You want enlightenment? no problem: apt-get install enlightenment. You want gnome? apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session etc... It'll download the packages if you've not got them locally and install them. nice. If you've got a fast internet connection (as in ISDN router or faster) then you can even install it over the network, two boot disks and you're away. Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux '99
by James Green 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk OK, Linux '99 from UKUUG made it to slashdot. I take it this has been discussed in ucol, I only just got leafnode rpm down. Can we perhaps arrange travel arrangements together? I'd certainly like to go... James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Mark J Ray 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, > browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... > which is kinda neat ;) Oh no, not unless rpm has become a lot less chaotic and they've added a lot of clever stuff to gnorpm. When he says apt-get goes and installs what you tell it, he means and all the right versions of the stuff it depends upon too. Very nice if you're used to playing "hunt the rpm". -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Neill Newman 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Paul Russell wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > > One of the *really* nice things about debian is it's package management. > I've not had to compile a single program since installing deb. You want > enlightenment? no problem: apt-get install enlightenment. You want gnome? > apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session etc... It'll download the packages > if you've not got them locally and install them. nice. If you've got a fast > internet connection (as in ISDN router or faster) then you can even install > it over the network, two boot disks and you're away. the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... which is kinda neat ;) Sz > > Paul > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] > [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Newman Tel: Mobile 07970 673722 Department of Electronics Systems Engineering Work 01206 873708 University of Essex Fax: Work 01206 872900 http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/index.html email: njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Paul Russell 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk >> A large number of reports of stuff wrong with Gnome/E in the RH6 RPMS - >> this is understandable, Gnome at least has come a long way since the >> RH6 build; > >yeah Gnome/E is a little flakey as yet, but hopefully it will mature >with age.. E certain looks good even if it does crash every few seconds >!!.. If you can bear it, I'd strongly recomend ditching RH6 and moving up to Debian. I'm now happily running Enlightenment DR15.5 and Gnome, I've had very few problems (and most of those were caused by me erm 'playing') I have to say, it's 'quite pretty' and it's getting quite close to the point where you could put it on a desktop machine without too many problems. All we need now is a few shit hot productivity apps and we're away. I'm waiting for gnumeric myself... One of the *really* nice things about debian is it's package management. I've not had to compile a single program since installing deb. You want enlightenment? no problem: apt-get install enlightenment. You want gnome? apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session etc... It'll download the packages if you've not got them locally and install them. nice. If you've got a fast internet connection (as in ISDN router or faster) then you can even install it over the network, two boot disks and you're away. Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] On-Line for FREE (NOT SPAM!)
by Mark J Ray 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk James Green <jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > Now ask 4 friends to join, and give them your referral ID. Your account > does not become activated until all four referrals are members. For the second time today: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS! This is a pyramid email collection scam. Their site is poorly designed in a GUI tool and is hosted in the US (odd for a UK internet provider, don't you think?). A conservative estimate of the revenue that they need to generate to service the amount of 0800 calls they need is around the £200,000 mark, which is never going to be generated by 2 email adverts per week. See uk.telecom for more details and a *very* long thread about them, even by uk.telecom standards. Save your time and stop wasting bandwidth by telling others. Please tell whoever you heard it from about this and ask them to pass it on to all the others that they've told and who they heard it from. God, these hoaxes take a lot to stamp out. :( -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Improves CPU/video memory bandwidth by anything from 20 to 50%. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux.com up and running :)
by Martyn B. Drake 20 May '99

20 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk After a bit of waiting, Linux.com is finally up and running, and jolly good it is too. There is even a section for LUGs as well. Only complaint is that some of the pages appear to be wider than 800x600, but that's me just nitpicking. Anybody try Netscape 4.6 under Linux as yet? Seems a bit faster at rendering pages under Windows but so far I've not gotten as far as installing it under Linux. Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] On-Line for FREE (NOT SPAM!)
by Ward, Paul 19 May '99

19 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk thought that was too good to be true -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Ray [mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:55 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] On-Line for FREE (NOT SPAM!) * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk James Green <jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > Now ask 4 friends to join, and give them your referral ID. Your account > does not become activated until all four referrals are members. For the second time today: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS! This is a pyramid email collection scam. Their site is poorly designed in a GUI tool and is hosted in the US (odd for a UK internet provider, don't you think?). A conservative estimate of the revenue that they need to generate to service the amount of 0800 calls they need is around the £200,000 mark, which is never going to be generated by 2 email adverts per week. See uk.telecom for more details and a *very* long thread about them, even by uk.telecom standards. Save your time and stop wasting bandwidth by telling others. Please tell whoever you heard it from about this and ask them to pass it on to all the others that they've told and who they heard it from. God, these hoaxes take a lot to stamp out. :( -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Improves CPU/video memory bandwidth by anything from 20 to 50%. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by James Green 15 May '99

15 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Fri, 14 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Hi there > > Just readng your e-mail bout the LUG - > I was given a copy of Red Hat 6 - but I am unable to load it - I cannot > create any boot disks either - can you help ? Paul, In the directory RedHat/images (IIRC) there is boot.img. In DOS: cd dosutils rawrite.exe When prompted, for a disk, for the boot image enter: .\images\boot.img Under *ix: dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=72k That's you boot image taken care of. Information curtesy RedHat 5.1 installation manual. FWIW, my recent mboard (Award BIOS) won't boot the cd either, even though it recognises their is one at boot time. I am currently still in the process of working through the changes in RH6 from 5.2. Some of the stuff they've done is quite amazingly odd and has caused a large number of frustrating hours in #linuxhelp, and I'm not through with it yet. I'll give you a tip: when you compile your own kernel, rm /boot/System.map - you'll get errors on reboot about modules having the wrong kernel version number otherwise, also cp the asm headers from the linux kernel source into /usr/include/asm/ (rm'ing the symlink first) else virtually nothing compiles. Gimp-1.1.5 still doesn't compile here, claiming libgimp/libgimp.h is non-existant (damn well does exist). Overall, progress is slow. At least I backed everything up to my windows HD. James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Tatsuhiko Maekawa 14 May '99

14 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk "Ward, Paul" wrote: > I was given a copy of Red Hat 6 - but I am unable to load it - I cannot > create any boot disks either - can you help ? If possible - get the boot image file from hensa.unix.ac.uk. Red Hat 6 seems to install different way than RH5.x. Or else you can wait for next ALUG meeting -:) -- Tatsuhiko Maekawa - Member of UEA Student Website tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk / T.Maekawa(a)uea.ac.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 14 May '99

14 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi there Just readng your e-mail bout the LUG - I was given a copy of Red Hat 6 - but I am unable to load it - I cannot create any boot disks either - can you help ? Paul -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bower [mailto:a.bower@thebowery.force9.co.uk] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 1:57 AM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk A very good day and looking forward to the next one, thanks for sorting the problem with my swap space and for the copy of Redhat 6.0, you know who you are!! I also found the inspiration to try and get linux on a network and have made some major progress, all down to a start up lug I now feel more enthusiastic about linux in general and will now try to make the effort to move from win98 to linux as my main os. Thanks all Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[Fwd: [Fwd: FW: freaky !!!!]]
by Owen Synge 13 May '99

13 May '99

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Is Mozilla 5 safe to use?
by Tatsuhiko Maekawa 09 May '99

09 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi Am wondering if anybody out there already tested new Mozilla 5 on your Linux computer. They always say "use it with your own risk" ... and I refrain to take the risk to install it. yours -- Tatsuhiko Maekawa - Member of UEA Student Website tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk / T.Maekawa(a)uea.ac.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Is Mozilla 5 safe to use?
by Ward, Paul 09 May '99

09 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk nope not yet tested SuSE linux 6.1 and a lot of it's new features though - -----Original Message----- From: Neill Newman [mailto:njnewm@essex.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 3:52 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Is Mozilla 5 safe to use? * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Tatsuhiko Maekawa wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Hi > > Am wondering if anybody out there already tested new Mozilla 5 on your > Linux computer. They always say "use it with your own risk" ... and I > refrain to take the risk to install it. a friend tried Mozzila M4, it was kinda cute, but a bit sluggish probably due to a lot of debug code.... Unless you really want to play with it I don;t suggest trashing your version of nutscrape 4.51 just yet ;) Scoobz > > yours > > -- > Tatsuhiko Maekawa - Member of UEA Student Website > tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk / T.Maekawa(a)uea.ac.uk > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] > [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Newman Tel: Mobile 07970 673722 Department of Electronics Systems Engineering Work 01206 873708 University of Essex Fax: Work 01206 872900 http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/index.html email: njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Raphael Mankin 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On 06-May-99 Owen Synge wrote: >* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > >> Beware: SP5 has poisonous aspects. It isd saidto kill your m/c performace (even >> more than naked NT). > >What do You mean? I dont understansd will it hert linux? I still >remember command.com wars, where your DR DOS bootable disks would be >eaten by MSDOS systems. > >If you know where this information is I may keep SP5 off our network. naah. Won't touch your Linux system! Just clobbers NT. There was a test recently in one of the PC mags. ---------------------------------- You beat your pate and fancy wit will come; Knock as you will, There's no-one at home -- Alexander Pope Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG2?
by Mark J Ray 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ALUG1 was quite a success for an initial meeting, I think we can all agree. But, as discussion here and Tats's page about the meeting (which I hope we can link into the main site *hint*) says, I think we need to do something a bit more "organised" at the start of each meeting, a sort of headline talk. So, I suggest that for the next meeting we have one or more of the following: "Linux Games: The Final Barrier to the Mainstream?" which could demo the Q3 test and any other freebies that we can get and point at a few of the companies now producing games for Linux and some of the more interesting Free games (xblast remains a favourite of mine). Would also tie in nicely with some networked games later on. "Interoperability: Emulation and Viewers" which could demo vmware on a machine actually able to run it at a decent speed, VNC, Bochs and maybe a few micro emulators. "Replacing the Desktop" Ken Thompson's interview with Computer (http://computer.org/computer/thompson.htm) hints that he believes that overthrowing any established computer system involves thousands of man-years to replace the code. Linux appears to be approaching it. What apps do we have to replace the MS Office et al that we are used to? Other questions: Where? UEA is fairly settled, I think, but Union House appears not to have a room of a suitable size with a network connection. Is there another room available to us? When? Some of us think before the end of UEA's term so we can get a few undergrads to come along and take a look before they go out preaching the gospel of MS. Some think that we should wait 6-8 weeks between meetings to save us travelling too much, avoid saturation and stealing the smaller LUGs' thunder too much. Finally, anyone got a venue in Cambs/South Lincs that we can use for ALUG3? And I've moved the list archive (230-odd messages in the first month) to start a new section. I'll probably do that after each meeting. -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/events/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Mmmm .. verrry interesting..
by Martyn B. Drake 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Guys, Check out http://www.vmware.com - it is a very good site which offers the ability to run virtually any x86-based operating system within Linux. We're currently testing it here with Windows 98 and by all accounts things appear to be going quite well (we're still installing it, but that's just impressed me that it's getting that far!). There are some very crazy things that this thing can do ;) I bloody love Linux ;) Regards, M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Laurie Brown 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Owen Synge wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > > Beware: SP5 has poisonous aspects. It isd saidto kill your m/c performace (even > > more than naked NT). > > What do You mean? I dont understansd will it hert linux? I still > remember command.com wars, where your DR DOS bootable disks would be > eaten by MSDOS systems. > > If you know where this information is I may keep SP5 off our network. > > Owen Owen, You need to be VERY careful with MS SPs. Most of my clients invest a considerable amount of time and money in testing them OFF the corporate network. One large one, even now, is still testing SP4... Be VERY careful... Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Ward, Paul 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk sp 5 : does "SP" mean "SLOWS PERFORMANCE" ??? -----Original Message----- From: Owen Synge [mailto:owen.synge@meadowhouse.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:03 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Beware: SP5 has poisonous aspects. It isd saidto kill your m/c performace (even > more than naked NT). What do You mean? I dont understansd will it hert linux? I still remember command.com wars, where your DR DOS bootable disks would be eaten by MSDOS systems. If you know where this information is I may keep SP5 off our network. Owen ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Martyn B. Drake 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk At 13:54 05/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >what I cant do is access NT disks, or see linux from NT, I cant get http >access, to this nice little 486, all of which are essential, any >suggestions of running a linux box on an TCP/IP based network greatfully >accepted Going wildly off-topic here, I've noticed that Microsoft have just released service pack 5 for NT. Full download takes up 35Mb. :( M. - sticking with RedHat 6 :) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re:
by Neill Newman 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk typical.. I am only told about an ALUG meeting which is 5 miles from home, three days after the event !! oh well, I found the group now and I a'int leavi'n loike... It's a pity I wanted to bring my linux wearable along ;) (see .sig) Scoobz alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk wrote: > > * A N G L I A N L I N U X U S E R G R O U P * > > This is the general discussion list alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk. > We welcome all help in organising the ALUG. Hopefully, this > will be the main place for that. While we are not against > general Linux discussion, the newsgroup uk.comp.os.linux may be > more helpful/appropriate. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Newman Tel: Mobile 07970 673722 Department of Electronics Systems Engineering Work 01206 873708 University of Essex Fax: Work 01206 872900 http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/index.html email: njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Chris Glover 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Owen Synge wrote: > > >, apache may not be listening for external > > connections. Can you see it with http://your.machine.address.here/ > > (using the IP numbers)? > > No > > >If so, look in httpd.conf for various > > "listen" commands (reading the manual). > > I have been looking here > Assuming httpd is being started from inetd, something else you could try is checking /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny If in /etc/inetd.comf there is a line that reads (am doing this from memory) http stream nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/http try editing /etc/hosts.allow to read http:ALL Hope that helps. -- Chris *************************************************************************** E Mail C.C.Glover(a)uea.ac.uk Chris(a)glovercc.freeserve.co,uk WWW http://www.uea.ac.uk/~w9628088 ICQ 18054759 Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Mmmm .. verrry interesting..
by Paul Russell 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Yeah - vmware is *very* impressive. Myself and Andrew Savoury have been running if off and on for a while now and it's very well implemented. (and kinda freaky - it's easy to forget what operating system you're running in) Martyn - what spec machine is it running on, because my only qualm was that it was a little slow on my box (PII-233), but aparently they've speeded it up a little now. It's also something of a killer app if you're into developing operating systems, huh mark <g> Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Martyn B. Drake <martyn.drake(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 9:33 AM Subject: [ALUG] Mmmm .. verrry interesting.. >* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > >Guys, > >Check out http://www.vmware.com - it is a very good site which offers the >ability to run virtually any x86-based operating system within >Linux. We're currently testing it here with Windows 98 and by all accounts >things appear to be going quite well (we're still installing it, but that's >just impressed me that it's getting that far!). There are some very crazy >things that this thing can do ;) > >I bloody love Linux ;) > >Regards, > > M. >[ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] >[ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] >[ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] >[ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] ANNOUNCE: Linus arrives!
by Ward, Paul 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk congratulations when's the wetting of baby Becky's head ??? -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Brown [mailto:laurie@brownowl.com] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 9:15 AM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] ANNOUNCE: Linus arrives! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk John Woodard wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Hello all. > > Just to let you know that our event has happened. Little Linus (aka Becky) > weighed in at 7 1/2 lbs. yesterday at 5:48 exactly 7 days late. > Congrats! Best wishes to all three of you. Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ANNOUNCE: Linus arrives!
by John Woodard 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello all. Just to let you know that our event has happened. Little Linus (aka Becky) weighed in at 7 1/2 lbs. yesterday at 5:48 exactly 7 days late. Both of us thought that Linus was a bit of a strange name for a little girl, I did try to persuade Pam that Tux was suitable but she wasn't having any of it so we named her after that great operating system for the Acme Mainframe, Rebecca. :-) Back on the subject of Linux, Red Hat 6.0 installed and working on my PII box in 17 mins I'm impressed, especially with Gnome/Enlightenment. Can't wait to get my hand on SuSE 6.1 for a play now. Regards BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Ward, Paul 06 May '99

06 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk We've got Microsfot WTS (NT THIN CLIENT) - it's been so bad in 4 months they are on sp4 and now they say they are no longer going to support it - they're canning it Can someone come here to Colchester and tell our management the good points of going LINUX (for christs sake they even gave up UNIX to go to WTS !!!) Paul Ward (frustrated S.A - Linklaters & Alliance - Colchester ) -----Original Message----- From: James Green [mailto:jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 6:36 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Wed, 5 May 1999, Martyn B. Drake wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Going wildly off-topic here, I've noticed that Microsoft have just released > service pack 5 for NT. Full download takes up 35Mb. :( <gobsmacked> Already? SP4 took, what, 2yrs? SP5, what, a matter of months? Lemme guess, IE5 + plus Y2K. </gobsmacked> > M. - sticking with RedHat 6 :) Yep. Soon as I get this Java done and handed in, I'll be backing up, wiping the disk and starting up RH6. Assuming of course it installs ;) -- James Green http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ Home of the demon.tech.modems 56k FAQ. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Mark J Ray 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Owen, I don't know how apache comes set up on your distribution (perhaps someone else here does), but if you can see it as http://localhost/ and can ping the Linux box, apache may not be listening for external connections. Can you see it with http://your.machine.address.here/ (using the IP numbers)? If so, look in httpd.conf for various "listen" commands (reading the manual). I see you've posted to uk.comp.os.linux, which is probably the best place to ask, really. -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Try a Cool Site UK : http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cool/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ashley T. Howes 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk At 09:55 04/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > >I've alos go a copy of RedHat 6.0 - can you tell me how to install it - It >wont let me make any boot floppies ??? > > I've created the installation disk if that's what you are taking about. However on installation it stops at the configure mouse section. It gives me a menu button to carry on installation but nothing works (apart from setting the root password). I also can not make a boot floppy, it asks me to put the floppy in the drive but does not write anything to the disk. Does anyone know what's up with it? Ashley Mr. Ashley T. Howes Email: ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness" [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Mark J Ray 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi Owen, UUEAS (the Student Union at UEA) have been running a pair of 486s for some time, one of which is visible to Windows. You need the samba package to allow the Windows boxes to see its disks, and smbclient or smbmount to see the NT disks. HTTP shouldn't be a problem. Have you a webserver (httpd) installed, configured and running? UUEAS have recently added a K6/2 to our collection from www.dnuk.com. -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Try a Cool Site UK : http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cool/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Only the cost of your blank CD's (there five CD's in all) And it the real mcoy -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Brown [mailto:laurie@brownowl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 2:11 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk "Ward, Paul" wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > ANYONE WANT OF NEW COPY of SuSE 6.1 with KDE 1.1 and KERNEL 2.2 > > Paul Ward How much? Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Linux on an NT Network
by Laurie Brown 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Owen Synge wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Hello, > > This is my first posting or contact with you all, I nearly got in touch > to come to your meeting but unfortunately I had to clean up after a > party the day before, > > Anyway I am at work and have been given the job of evaluating linux, I > can now ping to and from Linux on my network, telnet into linux, ftp > into linux, so I am almost there. > > what I cant do is access NT disks, or see linux from NT, I cant get http To access NT you need to have SMB enabled in the kernel, and see linux from NT you need SAMBA (http://www.samba.org) > access, to this nice little 486, all of which are essential, any > suggestions of running a linux box on an TCP/IP based network greatfully > accepted For http you need Apache. Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Laurie Brown 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk "Ward, Paul" wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > ANYONE WANT OF NEW COPY of SuSE 6.1 with KDE 1.1 and KERNEL 2.2 > > Paul Ward How much? Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ISO image of RedHat 6 available soon!
by Martyn B. Drake 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi folks, What with all this talk of RedHat 6.0 again, I'll be making available the bootable ISO image within the next couple of days from Net Communications. Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux on an NT Network
by Owen Synge 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello, This is my first posting or contact with you all, I nearly got in touch to come to your meeting but unfortunately I had to clean up after a party the day before, Anyway I am at work and have been given the job of evaluating linux, I can now ping to and from Linux on my network, telnet into linux, ftp into linux, so I am almost there. what I cant do is access NT disks, or see linux from NT, I cant get http access, to this nice little 486, all of which are essential, any suggestions of running a linux box on an TCP/IP based network greatfully accepted Owen ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ANYONE WANT OF NEW COPY of SuSE 6.1 with KDE 1.1 and KERNEL 2.2 Paul Ward -----Original Message----- From: Chris Glover [mailto:C.C.Glover@uea.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 1:21 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Wed, 5 May 1999, James Green wrote: > Er, forget all that. They appear to have the files now. > Not on sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk /public/Mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/redhat-6.0/redhat-6.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS is still empty :-( And installing from HENSA takes too F***ing long, and I cant NFS mount it like I can sunsite. -- Chris *************************************************************************** E Mail C.C.Glover(a)uea.ac.uk Chris(a)glovercc.freeserve.co,uk WWW http://www.uea.ac.uk/~w9628088 ICQ 18054759 Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Homepage for the First Meeting Now Available!
by Tatsuhiko Maekawa 05 May '99

05 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk It took me a day to make this dead simple pages, but it is here now. Check the first meeting document at http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/~tatsu/990502/index.html If you find any English mistakes please omit it -:) Yours -- Tatsuhiko Maekawa - Member of UEA Student Website tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk / T.Maekawa(a)uea.ac.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk copy the entire Cd to a DOS Partition - install it and thern fdisk to remove DOS partitiion !!!! Paul -----Original Message----- From: Ashley T. Howes [mailto:ashley_t_howes@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 2:09 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk At 09:55 04/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > >I've alos go a copy of RedHat 6.0 - can you tell me how to install it - It >wont let me make any boot floppies ??? > > I've created the installation disk if that's what you are taking about. However on installation it stops at the configure mouse section. It gives me a menu button to carry on installation but nothing works (apart from setting the root password). I also can not make a boot floppy, it asks me to put the floppy in the drive but does not write anything to the disk. Does anyone know what's up with it? Ashley Mr. Ashley T. Howes Email: ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness" [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Good day excellent beer!
by John Woodard 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Header says it all. Thanks Laurie for hosting and everybody else for your contributions. Still no sprog! Regards BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Free FAX services
by Mark J Ray 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I think you mean www.tpc.int -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ MicroSoft: Where do WE want YOU to go today? www.vcnet.com/bms/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I've alos go a copy of RedHat 6.0 - can you tell me how to install it - It wont let me make any boot floppies ??? Paul -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bower [mailto:a.bower@thebowery.force9.co.uk] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 1:57 AM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk A very good day and looking forward to the next one, thanks for sorting the problem with my swap space and for the copy of Redhat 6.0, you know who you are!! I also found the inspiration to try and get linux on a network and have made some major progress, all down to a start up lug I now feel more enthusiastic about linux in general and will now try to make the effort to move from win98 to linux as my main os. Thanks all Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Free FAX services
by Raphael Mankin 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk AT the meeting on Sunday I gave out a wrong url. Go to www.tcp.int for info on free fax services. ---------------------------------- You beat your pate and fancy wit will come; Knock as you will, There's no-one at home -- Alexander Pope Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Martyn B. Drake 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk From: Ward, Paul <pward(a)linklaters.com> > I've alos go a copy of RedHat 6.0 - can you tell me how to install it - It > wont let me make any boot floppies ??? Does your BIOS support booting off of CD-ROM? If so, if you enable it, it will begin the installation. I haven't tried making boot floppies from that CD-ROM that I distributed, as I always boot of off CD-ROM these days :) M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Homepage for the First Meeting Now Available!
by Paul Russell 04 May '99

04 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk >> If you find any English mistakes please omit it -:) > >How about factual ones? Quake 3 not 2. /me sobs... did you *have* to bring that one up? Oh well - a bit of sleep and a couple of GL libs later, and you never know... Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Homepage for the First Meeting Now Available!
by Mark J Ray 03 May '99

03 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Tatsuhiko Maekawa <tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> writes: > If you find any English mistakes please omit it -:) How about factual ones? Quake 3 not 2. And why do you keep putting your nose on top of your head? ;) -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ echo Qb abg glcr va enaqbz fvt yvarf. | tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Mark J Ray 03 May '99

03 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Tatsuhiko Maekawa <tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> writes: > My folder - which is supposedly world accessible - is not. I am waiting > for the instruction from the webmaster to get the permission. Is too! It seems to be ignoring the Directory Indexing setting, but never mind that ;) I've advised Tats of the URL. -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ echo Qb abg glcr va enaqbz fvt yvarf. | tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Tatsuhiko Maekawa 03 May '99

03 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: James Green <jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk> > On Sun, 2 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > > Can someone inform me of what happened today > Hopefullly someone (Taks?) is writing it all up, and putting some piccies > on the web. Stay tuned. I have already uploaded pictures, and I am writing documents. As what James said, I have a lot to say - and I mean A LOT!!! Please be patient for the report. Don't hurry me up -:) Tatsuhiko Maekawa [TM] - Member of UEA Student Website tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk / T.Maekawa(a)uea.ac.uk http://www.uea.ac.uk/~w9611266 [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Adam Bower 03 May '99

03 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk A very good day and looking forward to the next one, thanks for sorting the problem with my swap space and for the copy of Redhat 6.0, you know who you are!! I also found the inspiration to try and get linux on a network and have made some major progress, all down to a start up lug I now feel more enthusiastic about linux in general and will now try to make the effort to move from win98 to linux as my main os. Thanks all Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by James Green 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Sun, 2 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > No worries - I won't be pestering y'all till Tuesday > > By the way when and where is the next meeting ???? I thought that LUG meetings were, as a rule, held every two months. If it were every month, then my timetable dictates my presence up 'til mid-June when my exams have been and gone. -- James Green http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk No worries - I won't be pestering y'all till Tuesday By the way when and where is the next meeting ???? -----Original Message----- From: Tatsuhiko Maekawa [mailto:tatsu@stu.uea.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 11:53 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: James Green <jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk> > On Sun, 2 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > > Can someone inform me of what happened today > Hopefullly someone (Taks?) is writing it all up, and putting some piccies > on the web. Stay tuned. I have already uploaded pictures, and I am writing documents. As what James said, I have a lot to say - and I mean A LOT!!! Please be patient for the report. Don't hurry me up -:) Tatsuhiko Maekawa [TM] - Member of UEA Student Website tatsu(a)stu.uea.ac.uk / T.Maekawa(a)uea.ac.uk http://www.uea.ac.uk/~w9611266 [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by James Green 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Sun, 2 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Hi there > > Can someone inform me of what happened today - I had to work and I wanted to > find out a few things, never mind (i'm still at work) till midnight Lots :) Hopefullly someone (Taks?) is writing it all up, and putting some piccies on the web. Stay tuned. James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer!
by Ward, Paul 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi there Can someone inform me of what happened today - I had to work and I wanted to find out a few things, never mind (i'm still at work) till midnight -----Original Message----- From: John Woodard [mailto:jwoodard@tesco.net] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 9:47 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [ALUG] Good day excellent beer! * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Header says it all. Thanks Laurie for hosting and everybody else for your contributions. Still no sprog! Regards BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Tomorrow
by Laurie Brown 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk "Ward, Paul" wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Just make sure she calls the sprog "Linus" if it's a boy !!!! ArfArf! [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Anybody bringing a Voodoo card?
by Martyn B. Drake 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Just wondering - if I were take a snapshot of Q3ATest for Linux - is anybody like to have a Voodoo/Voodoo2 card with them? Regards, M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] CD-R burns of latest and greatest
by Mark J Ray 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> writes: > I've got 95, 98 and NT4 WS on CD: I'll bring them along. Laurie, I don't think that's quite what he meant and I'd personally rather have as little MS stuff there as possible. Can people burning "general" CDs please use source tgzs too, as I don't think the rpm vs deb debate is something we want to get into yet. I'm sure there are some slackers out there too. -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ "And scantily clad females. Who cares if it's twenty below?"-Linus(misattr) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Travel arrangements for lifts from Ipswich or Woodbrige stations
by James Green 02 May '99

02 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi, Right, trains could be rather annoying, so I'll let whomever can provide transport from either Woodbridge or Ipswich decide on where and when to pick me up: IPSWICH ARRIVING: WOODBRIDGE ARRIVING: 12.34 12.07 1.25 2.07 Note: The Ipswich times above are NOT change-overs for trains to the Woodbridge ones. Whomever is concerned please choose from the five times (two locations) above which is most convenient and tell me quick! Thanks, James Green Coming from Colchester North station [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Tomorrow
by Ward, Paul 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Just make sure she calls the sprog "Linus" if it's a boy !!!! Paul Ward -----Original Message----- From: John Woodard [mailto:jwoodard@tesco.net] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 9:17 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [ALUG] Tomorrow * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hope to make the meeting tomorrow if the wife doesn't drop sprog number 3 before, she *is* 4 days over due so it could be tricky! If I don't make it good luck. Regards BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Tomorrow
by John Woodard 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hope to make the meeting tomorrow if the wife doesn't drop sprog number 3 before, she *is* 4 days over due so it could be tricky! If I don't make it good luck. Regards BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Anybody bringing a Voodoo card?
by James Green 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Sat, 1 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > quote of the day from "ihatebillgates.com" > > Microsoft announced today that the official release date for the new > operating system "Windows 2000" will be delayed until the second > quarter of 1901. ROFL! That's for ucol. -- James Green http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Anybody bringing a Voodoo card?
by Ward, Paul 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk quote of the day from "ihatebillgates.com" Microsoft announced today that the official release date for the new operating system "Windows 2000" will be delayed until the second quarter of 1901. Paul Ward -----Original Message----- From: Martyn B. Drake [mailto:martyn.drake@anglian.lug.org.uk] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 5:49 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Anybody bringing a Voodoo card? * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Andrew wrote:- > I'll be bringing Q3 along, Paul has promised to bring his new GFX card for > us to try it on ;-) Fair enough - saves me another CD - this should be interesting :) Regards, M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Anybody bringing a Voodoo card?
by Andrew Savory 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Sat, 1 May 1999, Ward, Paul wrote: > To save us going through the e-mail yet again - can someone please tell us > the venue and rough directions (we'll be coming from Colchester area ) See: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?627200&249600&We+are+near…'W'+of+Woodbridge&arrow=Y http://www.meltongrange.co.uk/hotel-map.html Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Web Consultant | Email: a.savory at uea.ac.uk IT and Computing Services | URL: http://www.uea.ac.uk/ University of East Anglia | Norwich, NR4 7TJ, UK | #include "disclaimer.h" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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7 RedHat 6.0 CD's up for grabs tomorrow!
by Martyn B. Drake 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Having finally managed to download an appropriate ISO image of RedHat 6.0, I am currently burning 7 copies of RedHat 6.0 (bootable) onto CD-ROM as I type this. For anyone that wants a copy, it'll cost just £1 to cover the CD-ROM media used. I would have brought more, but my company needs some of the blank CD's for other things .. ;( See you all tomorrow :) M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Anybody bringing a Voodoo card?
by Ward, Paul 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi there, To save us going through the e-mail yet again - can someone please tell us the venue and rough directions (we'll be coming from Colchester area ) Thanks Paul (and Pete) -----Original Message----- From: Martyn B. Drake [mailto:martyn.drake@anglian.lug.org.uk] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 3:35 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [ALUG] Anybody bringing a Voodoo card? * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Just wondering - if I were take a snapshot of Q3ATest for Linux - is anybody like to have a Voodoo/Voodoo2 card with them? Regards, M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] 7 RedHat 6.0 CD's up for grabs tomorrow!
by Adam Bower 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk >Having finally managed to download an appropriate ISO image of RedHat 6.0, I >am currently burning 7 copies of RedHat 6.0 (bootable) onto CD-ROM as I type >this. For anyone that wants a copy, it'll cost just £1 to cover the CD-ROM >media used. I would have brought more, but my company needs some of the >blank CD's for other things .. ;( Save us one and if you run out then I can burn them for other people in the week and hopefully post them to whoever before next weekend. Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] CD-R burns of latest and greatest
by Adam Bower 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Sorry I probably didn't make myself to clear Alcohol clouding judgement and all that. What I meant was that if anyone has downloaded Caldera or Redhat 6.0 and has them in an format suitable for burning in 98/NT that I could copy them onto my hard drive on Sunday. Then I should be getting a pile of CD-R blanks around Wednesday time and could then provide burns for people as they require them. Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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No CD-Rom
by James Green 01 May '99

01 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello, Well, I have got a CD ready to burn with over 400Mbs worth of stuff for you all, but the CD-drive is giving "Drive not ready". I rebooted to no avail. So there's a lesson in relying on university machinery for a evening's work. :(( If, by some wierd chance no-one has tried to burn a CD themselves by Tuesday morning and thefore kept the software, I'll try again then. Otherwise we'll have to wait until our next meeting, and I shall quite possibly not be at uni for that so I won't be able to make a CD anyway. So there you have it. Yours depressed, James Green Term e-mail: jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk | Home e-mail: jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Homepage: http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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