Hello all, Been out to a Round Table event this evening (riding a 4 man bicycle, would you believe !) so away from e-mail... Various options... Could park at Pangbourne rec, off Thames Avenue (for Pangbourne meadows) start swim there, go with current, get out and walk back. or Could faff about getting cars to both ends (in the assumption we will make it as far as Mapledurham lock - which given the dwindling daylight these evening, I doubt, also as mentioned by Victoria it is probably on the optimistic side of things to expect we'll manage the whole stretch for reasons of distance and coldness. or We park at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side), then walk along as far as Thames beach and swim back to the lock. I'm easy with any of these options, but I do share Victoria's doubts over whether option 2 is practical. 1 and 3 are equally good for me. Helen what would you prefer - walk and then swim or swim and then walk ? Looking forward to this for tomorrow either way, and another go at the Sonning to Shiplake stretch next week would be great too. Helen, I share your hopes that we may get a bit of an 'Indian Summer' (fingers crossed !) All best wishes Lindsay ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Roche To: Jeremy Wellingham Cc: ossoxon@earth.li ; ossrats@earth.li Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening Ah, good point. Lindsay is the one who knows this stretch. Where are we meeting, Lindsay? I'm starting to wonder if the OSSrats email list was such a good idea, as we're now potentially discussing swims in three places - Oxon and RATS email groups, plus the OSS facebook pages! I thought that all the Berkshire activity might get wearisome for people in north Oxon, though... perhaps it will get more straightforward once all the interested parties join OSSRATS. Cheers, and see you tomorrow I hope, Jeremy and Lindsay. H On 8 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Jeremy Wellingham wrote: I should be able to make this on the way home from work tomorrow, Thu08Sep. May have missed it along the way but whereabouts in Pangbourne are we meeting? Jeremy On 08/09/2010 11:41, Helen Roche wrote: 5.45pm tomorrow at Pangbourne, is the idea. :) cheers Helen On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:04, Tracy Knowles wrote: love to, any dates? Thanks Tracy On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:07, Helen Roche wrote: anyone up for it? As short or as long as you like. cheers Helen _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. ______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.

Yes - option 3 walk and then swim gets my vote as well. (We can always get out a bit early if we feel like it and the remaining walk will be shorter.) I'll see you at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side) at 5:45pm if we're all agreed on option 3. Regards Jeremy ________________________________ From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Helen Roche Sent: 09 September 2010 01:16 To: Lindsay Nutbrown Cc: ossrats@earth.li; ossoxon@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] [OSS RATS] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening Thanks for the outlines, Lindsay. I vote for option 3, and agree that we should strike version 2 from consideration. Jeremy, any preference? cheers Helen On 9 Sep 2010, at 00:43, Lindsay Nutbrown wrote: Hello all, Been out to a Round Table event this evening (riding a 4 man bicycle, would you believe !) so away from e-mail... Various options... Could park at Pangbourne rec, off Thames Avenue (for Pangbourne meadows) start swim there, go with current, get out and walk back. or Could faff about getting cars to both ends (in the assumption we will make it as far as Mapledurham lock - which given the dwindling daylight these evening, I doubt, also as mentioned by Victoria it is probably on the optimistic side of things to expect we'll manage the whole stretch for reasons of distance and coldness. or We park at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side), then walk along as far as Thames beach and swim back to the lock. I'm easy with any of these options, but I do share Victoria's doubts over whether option 2 is practical. 1 and 3 are equally good for me. Helen what would you prefer - walk and then swim or swim and then walk ? Looking forward to this for tomorrow either way, and another go at the Sonning to Shiplake stretch next week would be great too. Helen, I share your hopes that we may get a bit of an 'Indian Summer' (fingers crossed !) All best wishes Lindsay ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Roche <mailto:helen@theskyisblue.net> To: Jeremy Wellingham <mailto:jeremy@wellingham.com> Cc: ossoxon@earth.li ; ossrats@earth.li Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening Ah, good point. Lindsay is the one who knows this stretch. Where are we meeting, Lindsay? I'm starting to wonder if the OSSrats email list was such a good idea, as we're now potentially discussing swims in three places - Oxon and RATS email groups, plus the OSS facebook pages! I thought that all the Berkshire activity might get wearisome for people in north Oxon, though... perhaps it will get more straightforward once all the interested parties join OSSRATS. Cheers, and see you tomorrow I hope, Jeremy and Lindsay. H On 8 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Jeremy Wellingham wrote: I should be able to make this on the way home from work tomorrow, Thu08Sep. May have missed it along the way but whereabouts in Pangbourne are we meeting? Jeremy On 08/09/2010 11:41, Helen Roche wrote: 5.45pm tomorrow at Pangbourne, is the idea. :) cheers Helen On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:04, Tracy Knowles wrote: love to, any dates? Thanks Tracy On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:07, Helen Roche wrote: anyone up for it? As short or as long as you like. cheers Helen _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. ______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. ________________________________ ______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.

I'd love to join you all next week if i'm free on whatever day is decided From: ossrats-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossrats-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Wellingham Jeremy Sent: 09 September 2010 08:16 To: Helen Roche; Lindsay Nutbrown Cc: ossoxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim, this Thursday evening Yes - option 3 walk and then swim gets my vote as well. (We can always get out a bit early if we feel like it and the remaining walk will be shorter.) I'll see you at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side) at 5:45pm if we're all agreed on option 3. Regards Jeremy _____ From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Helen Roche Sent: 09 September 2010 01:16 To: Lindsay Nutbrown Cc: ossrats@earth.li; ossoxon@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] [OSS RATS] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening Thanks for the outlines, Lindsay. I vote for option 3, and agree that we should strike version 2 from consideration. Jeremy, any preference? cheers Helen On 9 Sep 2010, at 00:43, Lindsay Nutbrown wrote: Hello all, Been out to a Round Table event this evening (riding a 4 man bicycle, would you believe !) so away from e-mail... Various options... Could park at Pangbourne rec, off Thames Avenue (for Pangbourne meadows) start swim there, go with current, get out and walk back. or Could faff about getting cars to both ends (in the assumption we will make it as far as Mapledurham lock - which given the dwindling daylight these evening, I doubt, also as mentioned by Victoria it is probably on the optimistic side of things to expect we'll manage the whole stretch for reasons of distance and coldness. or We park at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side), then walk along as far as Thames beach and swim back to the lock. I'm easy with any of these options, but I do share Victoria's doubts over whether option 2 is practical. 1 and 3 are equally good for me. Helen what would you prefer - walk and then swim or swim and then walk ? Looking forward to this for tomorrow either way, and another go at the Sonning to Shiplake stretch next week would be great too. Helen, I share your hopes that we may get a bit of an 'Indian Summer' (fingers crossed !) All best wishes Lindsay ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Roche <mailto:helen@theskyisblue.net> To: Jeremy <mailto:jeremy@wellingham.com> Wellingham Cc: ossoxon@earth.li ; ossrats@earth.li Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening Ah, good point. Lindsay is the one who knows this stretch. Where are we meeting, Lindsay? I'm starting to wonder if the OSSrats email list was such a good idea, as we're now potentially discussing swims in three places - Oxon and RATS email groups, plus the OSS facebook pages! I thought that all the Berkshire activity might get wearisome for people in north Oxon, though... perhaps it will get more straightforward once all the interested parties join OSSRATS. Cheers, and see you tomorrow I hope, Jeremy and Lindsay. H On 8 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Jeremy Wellingham wrote: I should be able to make this on the way home from work tomorrow, Thu08Sep. May have missed it along the way but whereabouts in Pangbourne are we meeting? Jeremy On 08/09/2010 11:41, Helen Roche wrote: 5.45pm tomorrow at Pangbourne, is the idea. :) cheers Helen On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:04, Tracy Knowles wrote: love to, any dates? Thanks Tracy On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:07, Helen Roche wrote: anyone up for it? As short or as long as you like. cheers Helen _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. ______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility. _____ ______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.

Sorry James, I should have passed that on to everyone! I hadn't realised that we were still (by legacy of the original threads) cross- posting to both groups. I guess we also need to be careful as to which email group pops up in the address bar, and make sure it's the right one. Lets keep it all on RATS from now on! cheers, and see some you next week. :) x Helen On 10 Sep 2010, at 13:14, James Lowe wrote:

Hello,

I realise why this has happened, but can we keep the posts to one mail group from now on?

There is no need to post on the OSS Oxon and the OSS RATs together for the same Swim - that was the point of setting up a different mail list. We also have the OSS Facebook site to post 'to the world'. Any people in 'Oxon' can subscribe to both lists if they so wish.

I have explained to Helen that we don't want to 'cross post' because it irritates others on the mail list (I have already had complaints and people asking to be removed - which is shame).

Post either on OSS Oxon or OSS RATs not both (at least for the same swim).

Thanks

James

PS No need to reply to this, this is just informational. If this comes across as 'terse' I apologise.

________________________________

From: ossrats-bounces@earth.li on behalf of Pam Sent: Fri 10/09/2010 13:06 To: 'Wellingham Jeremy'; 'Helen Roche'; 'Lindsay Nutbrown' Cc: ossoxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening

I'd love to join you all next week if i'm free on whatever day is decided

From: ossrats-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossrats-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Wellingham Jeremy Sent: 09 September 2010 08:16 To: Helen Roche; Lindsay Nutbrown Cc: ossoxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim, this Thursday evening

Yes - option 3 walk and then swim gets my vote as well. (We can always get out a bit early if we feel like it and the remaining walk will be shorter.)

I'll see you at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side) at 5:45pm if we're all agreed on option 3.

Regards Jeremy

________________________________

From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Helen Roche Sent: 09 September 2010 01:16 To: Lindsay Nutbrown Cc: ossrats@earth.li; ossoxon@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] [OSS RATS] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening

Thanks for the outlines, Lindsay. I vote for option 3, and agree that we should strike version 2 from consideration. Jeremy, any preference?

cheers

Helen

On 9 Sep 2010, at 00:43, Lindsay Nutbrown wrote:

Hello all,

Been out to a Round Table event this evening (riding a 4 man bicycle, would you believe !) so away from e-mail...

Various options...

Could park at Pangbourne rec, off Thames Avenue (for Pangbourne meadows) start swim there, go with current, get out and walk back.

or

Could faff about getting cars to both ends (in the assumption we will make it as far as Mapledurham lock - which given the dwindling daylight these evening, I doubt, also as mentioned by Victoria it is probably on the optimistic side of things to expect we'll manage the whole stretch for reasons of distance and coldness.

or

We park at Mapledurham lock end (but on Purley housing estate side), then walk along as far as Thames beach and swim back to the lock.

I'm easy with any of these options, but I do share Victoria's doubts over whether option 2 is practical. 1 and 3 are equally good for me. Helen what would you prefer - walk and then swim or swim and then walk ?

Looking forward to this for tomorrow either way, and another go at the Sonning to Shiplake stretch next week would be great too.

Helen, I share your hopes that we may get a bit of an 'Indian Summer' (fingers crossed !)

All best wishes

Lindsay

----- Original Message -----

From: Helen Roche <mailto:helen@theskyisblue.net>

To: Jeremy Wellingham <mailto:jeremy@wellingham.com>

Cc: ossoxon@earth.li ; ossrats@earth.li

Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:30 PM

Subject: Re: [OSS RATS] [OSS Oxon] Mapledurham/Pangbourne swim,this Thursday evening

Ah, good point. Lindsay is the one who knows this stretch. Where are we meeting, Lindsay?

I'm starting to wonder if the OSSrats email list was such a good idea, as we're now potentially discussing swims in three places - Oxon and RATS email groups, plus the OSS facebook pages! I thought that all the Berkshire activity might get wearisome for people in north Oxon, though... perhaps it will get more straightforward once all the interested parties join OSSRATS.

Cheers, and see you tomorrow I hope, Jeremy and Lindsay.

H

On 8 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Jeremy Wellingham wrote:

I should be able to make this on the way home from work tomorrow, Thu08Sep.

May have missed it along the way but whereabouts in Pangbourne are we meeting?

Jeremy

On 08/09/2010 11:41, Helen Roche wrote:

5.45pm tomorrow at Pangbourne, is the idea. :) cheers Helen

On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:04, Tracy Knowles wrote:

love to, any dates? Thanks Tracy On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:07, Helen Roche wrote:

anyone up for it? As short or as long as you like.

cheers Helen

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Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.

_______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon

Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.

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Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.

________________________________

______________________________________________ OSS RATS mailing list OSSRATS@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossrats

Please note that OSS RATS exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.