Hello everyone on the mailing list!
Hi there everyone, I joined the mailing list today and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a software developer, writing mainly smartphone apps but occasionally I kludge together small bespoke tools when my boss decides he wants the workflow to be made easier/faster! I've been interested in GNU/Linux since around 2000 and installed my first distro (Mandrake Linux) around 2002-03. Today I use Puppy on a USB stick, because I have to use a Macbook Pro for work. Aside from things learned along the way as part of my job, I know quite a bit about GNU tools and software, but I'm still learning the guts of Linux, so to speak. I'm a complete geek, so as long as I'm fueled by PG Tips: ask me anything! I look forward to chatting to all of you :) Adam
On 24-Oct-11 19:54:25, Adam H wrote:
Hi there everyone, I joined the mailing list today and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a software developer, writing mainly smartphone apps but occasionally I kludge together small bespoke tools when my boss decides he wants the workflow to be made easier/faster!
I've been interested in GNU/Linux since around 2000 and installed my first distro (Mandrake Linux) around 2002-03. Today I use Puppy on a USB stick, because I have to use a Macbook Pro for work. Aside from things learned along the way as part of my job, I know quite a bit about GNU tools and software, but I'm still learning the guts of Linux, so to speak. I'm a complete geek, so as long as I'm fueled by PG Tips: ask me anything!
I look forward to chatting to all of you :)
Adam
Welcome Adam! We look forward to it too. Lots to learn in Linux, and all of it rewarding. Even we oldsters (I've been using Linux since 1992) are still learning some of the the basics, so we all have a lot to learn from each other. Best wishes, Ted. PS Where are you based? The "A" in ALUG is a big area, and we have people from Peterborough to Burwell to Ipswich to King's Lynn to The Middle of Nowhere (no, that's not Norwich, but does include mysterious areas of North Norfolk). -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding@wlandres.net> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 24-Oct-11 Time: 21:51:30 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
On 24/10/2011 21:51, (Ted Harding) wrote:
On 24-Oct-11 19:54:25, Adam H wrote:
Hi there everyone, I joined the mailing list today and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a software developer, writing mainly smartphone apps but occasionally I kludge together small bespoke tools when my boss decides he wants the workflow to be made easier/faster!
I've been interested in GNU/Linux since around 2000 and installed my first distro (Mandrake Linux) around 2002-03. Today I use Puppy on a USB stick, because I have to use a Macbook Pro for work. Aside from things learned along the way as part of my job, I know quite a bit about GNU tools and software, but I'm still learning the guts of Linux, so to speak. I'm a complete geek, so as long as I'm fueled by PG Tips: ask me anything!
I look forward to chatting to all of you :)
Adam Welcome Adam! We look forward to it too. Lots to learn in Linux, and all of it rewarding. Even we oldsters (I've been using Linux since 1992) are still learning some of the the basics, so we all have a lot to learn from each other.
Best wishes, Ted. PS Where are you based? The "A" in ALUG is a big area, and we have people from Peterborough to Burwell to Ipswich to King's Lynn to The Middle of Nowhere (no, that's not Norwich, but does include mysterious areas of North Norfolk).
Hi Ted, I'm from Norwich, so I'm roit locul me! Where are you based? Thanks for the warm welcome :) Adam
On 24 Oct 21:51, Ted Harding wrote:
PS Where are you based? The "A" in ALUG is a big area, and we have people from Peterborough to Burwell to Ipswich to King's Lynn to The Middle of Nowhere (no, that's not Norwich, but does include mysterious areas of North Norfolk).
The A in ALUG is bigger than you think ;) (we have contingent members alllllll over the place - e.g. I'm currently based in Brighton... actually, come to think of it... mailing lists and website are managed by Jonathan McDowell, who is obviously currently based in the US - and our planet, http://planet.alug.org.uk/ is hosted on my vm) -- Brett Parker
Hi Adam, Welcome to the list. I hqve moved away buy this will always be my home list, its a good one! :D I hope you attend some of the ALUG meetings too, fond memories! Cheers. On Oct 24, 2011 9:17 PM, "Adam H" <a.halesworth@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there everyone, I joined the mailing list today and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a software developer, writing mainly smartphone apps but occasionally I kludge together small bespoke tools when my boss decides he wants the workflow to be made easier/faster!
I've been interested in GNU/Linux since around 2000 and installed my first distro (Mandrake Linux) around 2002-03. Today I use Puppy on a USB stick, because I have to use a Macbook Pro for work. Aside from things learned along the way as part of my job, I know quite a bit about GNU tools and software, but I'm still learning the guts of Linux, so to speak. I'm a complete geek, so as long as I'm fueled by PG Tips: ask me anything!
I look forward to chatting to all of you :)
Adam
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:54:25 +0100 Adam H <a.halesworth@gmail.com> allegedly wrote:
Hi there everyone, I joined the mailing list today and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a software developer, writing mainly smartphone apps but occasionally I kludge together small bespoke tools when my boss decides he wants the workflow to be made easier/faster!
Hi Adam You'll find that the natives are relatively friendly (so long as you don't mention Microsoft products, don't recommend non-free software as possible solutions to problems, keep polite and don't flame anyone about anything (even if they mention Microsoft products, recommend non-free.... etc)) I'm currently in the throes of ditching all my ubuntu installations in favour of LMDE running with Xfce, 'cos the new GNOME and unity shells suck. Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- The text file for RFC 854 contains exactly 854 lines. Do you think there is any cosmic significance in this? Douglas E Comer - Internetworking with TCP/IP Volume 1 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc854.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On 25 October 2011 17:00, mick <mbm@rlogin.net> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:54:25 +0100 Adam H <a.halesworth@gmail.com> allegedly wrote:
Hi there everyone, I joined the mailing list today and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a software developer, writing mainly smartphone apps but occasionally I kludge together small bespoke tools when my boss decides he wants the workflow to be made easier/faster!
Hi Adam
You'll find that the natives are relatively friendly (so long as you don't mention Microsoft products, don't recommend non-free software as possible solutions to problems, keep polite and don't flame anyone about anything (even if they mention Microsoft products, recommend non-free.... etc))
I'm currently in the throes of ditching all my ubuntu installations in favour of LMDE running with Xfce, 'cos the new GNOME and unity shells suck.
Mick
Hi Adam, We are `mostly harmless'. Everyone will be happy if you don't top post. Lame questions are fine but please try Googleing first. And I'm in complete agreement with Mick, Unity sucks, Gnome 3 is no better so I'm seriously looking for non-kde and non-minty alternatives. Poss Lubuntu or Xubuntu? Shame because I've been with Ububtu since Warty and I'm loath to change now. But since I've been forced away from a usable Gnome interface... Cheers, BJ
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 05:20:06PM +0100, John Woodard wrote:
I'm currently in the throes of ditching all my ubuntu installations in favour of LMDE running with Xfce, 'cos the new GNOME and unity shells suck.
Mick
Hi Adam, We are `mostly harmless'. Everyone will be happy if you don't top post. Lame questions are fine but please try Googleing first.
And I'm in complete agreement with Mick, Unity sucks, Gnome 3 is no better so I'm seriously looking for non-kde and non-minty alternatives. Poss Lubuntu or Xubuntu? Shame because I've been with Ububtu since Warty and I'm loath to change now. But since I've been forced away from a usable Gnome interface...
I've used xubuntu for several years now and it seems to keep on going without drastic changes. -- Chris Green
On 25 October 2011 17:54, Chris G <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
And I'm in complete agreement with Mick, Unity sucks, Gnome 3 is no better so I'm seriously looking for non-kde and non-minty alternatives. Poss Lubuntu or Xubuntu? Shame because I've been with Ububtu since Warty and I'm loath to change now. But since I've been forced away from a usable Gnome interface...
I've used xubuntu for several years now and it seems to keep on going without drastic changes.
Ugh.. me too. Reluctantly at first but I initially went straight for Crunchbang 10 "Statler" based on Debian but had no luck with wireless; downloaded Xubuntu instead.. Usual issue with my laptop's strange back light which I had had before with Ubuntu anyway. So now much preferring the sleek minimalist Xubuntu desktop to the odd Unity and bizarre Gnome3 (when I installed Gnome3 instead of Unity to 11.04 it went weird and X refused to start on tty7 ?!) but it *is* encouraging that Linux seems to be testing the waters in different directions and eventually something good could come of it - as has been mentioned in the other thread on this topic.. -Simon
On 25 October 2011 20:49, Simon Elliott <alug@sionide.net> wrote:
On 25 October 2011 17:54, Chris G <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
And I'm in complete agreement with Mick, Unity sucks, Gnome 3 is no better so I'm seriously looking for non-kde and non-minty alternatives. Poss Lubuntu or Xubuntu? Shame because I've been with Ububtu since Warty and I'm loath to change now. But since I've been forced away from a usable Gnome interface...
I've used xubuntu for several years now and it seems to keep on going without drastic changes.
Ugh.. me too. Reluctantly at first but I initially went straight for Crunchbang 10 "Statler" based on Debian but had no luck with wireless; downloaded Xubuntu instead.. Usual issue with my laptop's strange back light which I had had before with Ubuntu anyway.
So now much preferring the sleek minimalist Xubuntu desktop to the odd Unity and bizarre Gnome3 (when I installed Gnome3 instead of Unity to 11.04 it went weird and X refused to start on tty7 ?!) but it *is* encouraging that Linux seems to be testing the waters in different directions and eventually something good could come of it - as has been mentioned in the other thread on this topic..
-Simon
Hi All, I've been lurking awhile, now seems a good time to jump in. I ditched Ubuntu after about 4 years in the summer and installed Arch... I haven't been sorry for the most part. I have Gnome 3 on my desktop (hate it) and Xfce on my laptop (love it). I'm a *ahem* mature CS student at UEA, was in industry for many years before that wearing such hats as a sysadmin, an app developer and most recently I spent 5 years in datacentres before jacking it in and taking a "break" to finally get a degree. Looking forward to getting to one of the Norwich meet ups one of these days soon. -Veesa -- "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Simon Elliott <alug@sionide.net> wrote:
On 25 October 2011 17:54, Chris G <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
And I'm in complete agreement with Mick, Unity sucks, Gnome 3 is no better so I'm seriously looking for non-kde and non-minty alternatives. Poss Lubuntu or Xubuntu? Shame because I've been with Ububtu since Warty and I'm loath to change now. But since I've been forced away from a usable Gnome interface...
I've used xubuntu for several years now and it seems to keep on going without drastic changes.
Ugh.. me too. Reluctantly at first but I initially went straight for Crunchbang 10 "Statler" based on Debian but had no luck with wireless; downloaded Xubuntu instead.. Usual issue with my laptop's strange back light which I had had before with Ubuntu anyway.
So now much preferring the sleek minimalist Xubuntu desktop to the odd Unity and bizarre Gnome3 (when I installed Gnome3 instead of Unity to 11.04 it went weird and X refused to start on tty7 ?!) but it *is* encouraging that Linux seems to be testing the waters in different directions and eventually something good could come of it - as has been mentioned in the other thread on this topic..
-Simon
Encouraging... i'm not alone on xubuntu any more. I've used it from April 2010 when i decided i like Ubuntu 10.04. I really like the minimalist approach - i add apps whereas in Ubuntu i would add some and take off others. james
Welcome to ALUG, Adam! On 25 October 2011 22:04, James Freer <jessejazza3.uk@gmail.com> wrote:
Encouraging... i'm not alone on xubuntu any more. I've used it from April 2010 when i decided i like Ubuntu 10.04. I really like the minimalist approach - i add apps whereas in Ubuntu i would add some and take off others.
I find a combination of KDE apps and Fluxbox works ok for me. I just wish Linux would not lie to me when mounting optical disks from the command line. I'll have to try XFCE at some point - if it's lightweight enough, I might switch over to it. If it has a usable filemanager, all the better. Regards, Srdjan
On 25 October 2011 22:18, Srdjan Todorovic <todorovic.s@googlemail.com> wrote:
I'll have to try XFCE at some point - if it's lightweight enough, I might switch over to it. If it has a usable filemanager, all the better.
http://thunar.xfce.org/ seems to do most basic file manager functions. BJ
On 25 Oct 22:18, Srdjan Todorovic wrote: <snip />
I find a combination of KDE apps and Fluxbox works ok for me. I just wish Linux would not lie to me when mounting optical disks from the command line.
Huh? Lie in what way? Maybe it's not lying and you're just doing it wrong ;)
I'll have to try XFCE at some point - if it's lightweight enough, I might switch over to it. If it has a usable filemanager, all the better.
Regards, Srdjan
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On 26 October 2011 10:29, Brett Parker <iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Oct 22:18, Srdjan Todorovic wrote:
I find a combination of KDE apps and Fluxbox works ok for me. I just wish Linux would not lie to me when mounting optical disks from the command line.
Huh? Lie in what way? Maybe it's not lying and you're just doing it wrong ;)
1. Put DVD-R in drive, close tray. 2. Wait a few seconds for the drive LED to stop flashing. 3. $ mount /dvdrw 4. No error messages, no "no medium" messages. 5. $ ls /dvdrw # returns no entries but lied that it managed to mount it. 6. $ mount /dvdrw # again? argh! 7. No error messages, no "no medium" message 8. $ ls /dvdrw # returns entries Regards, Srdjan
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