All being well, after my first ALUG meeting at Aylsham, I hope to come to the May 21 meeting, but, will be bringing the same hangers-on (!?) as I did in Aylsham (non-computer buffs) - my wife and small dog Roger. Is Roger allowed in UEA grounds ( we always clear up extraneous products as any owner should!)? If not I will come again when possible as June 18th is a no-no, though Sylham is very convenient for me. Cheers Terry Beccles, Suffolk alug-digest@stu.uea.ac.uk wrote:

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6 messages in this digest: Re: [alug] Mandrake Re: [alug] Mandrake Re: [alug] Mandrake Re: [alug] Mandrake Re: [alug] June meeting booked Alug 29

=== MESSAGE 1 === Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake From: MJ Ray <markj@oplex.thebrickhouse.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:44:55 +0100

Adrian Kiddle wrote:

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itself correctly for my soundcard, but at the end of the day I felt safer with Red Hat (being a relative newbie to Linux).

Now this surprises me: every time I've seen a RedHat release, it has been broken in some way(s) and there's no sign that things are getting any better with it. The documentation that comes with it has also left me unimpressed, but that's a general problem apart from Debian (which is too steep a learning curve for most newbies, IMO) and SuSE. Why do you feel safer with it? Is it just because an increasing number of authors are documenting RedHat instead of Linux?

(Don't get me wrong: everyone is free to use whatever they want, but I've normally pointed newbies away from RedHat towards SuSE or Mandrake because RedHat is usually broken. If that's wrong, I probably ought to know why.)

-- | MJR "Everything is planned, from -- crime to leisure time."

=== MESSAGE 2 === Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake From: MJ Ray <markj@oplex.thebrickhouse.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:45:59 +0100

simon wrote:

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I don't get any of this hassle, my version of Mandrake uses red hat 6.5, the system does not take that much longer to boot than OS/2 or MS windows whatever it is, but the longer time is the price you pay for a system that does the job properly (someone should explain this to Mrs Gate's boy).

Is now a good time to point out how much faster a BSD-style init system comes up (eg on slackware) than a SysV one (as used on Redhat, Debian et al)? Probably not, but my old system boots in around 30s with all services running ;-)

Back to the point in hand: I did try Mandrake a while back during my multiple re-installs (it was at 6.something), but as I haven't used an RPM-based system for a couple of years now, I found the documentation I was given after installing was practically non-existant and I couldn't get the system tailored to how I wanted. It was very slick, though, and I'd rate it as alongside Storm for ease of installation, ahead of most of the established distributions.

-- | MJR "Everything is planned, from -- crime to leisure time."

=== MESSAGE 3 === Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell@uea.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:05:07 +0100

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:02:36PM +0100, Green J M K wrote:

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<pedant> GIMP is not a GNOME application. It does not require it to run. </pendant>

Hmm... come in a pedantic swine, go out something to hang on a necklace?

Hrm.. </pedant>. See, told you you didn't close it ;)

Paul

=== MESSAGE 4 === Subject: Re: [alug] Mandrake From: Laurie Brown <laurie@brownowl.com> Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:48:48 +0100

MJ Ray wrote:

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(Don't get me wrong: everyone is free to use whatever they want, but I've normally pointed newbies away from RedHat towards SuSE or Mandrake because RedHat is usually broken. If that's wrong, I probably ought to know why.)

Nope, it's not wrong. But then, as I'm an avowed SuSE-phile, you'd expect me to say that. I just find that SuSE gives me the best of all the worlds, which I accept is a compromise in some areas, but one I'm happy to make because overall, it's so much easier and thence more reliable.

Cheers, Laurie.

=== MESSAGE 5 === Subject: Re: [alug] June meeting booked From: Adam Bower <adamb@thebowery.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:28:46 +0100

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 06:49:43PM +0100, John Woodard wrote:

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ALUG 8 or 30 depending on your numbering system is booked for Sunday 18th June 2:00 - 6:30 at Syleham Village Hall as guests of the Syleham and Wingfield Computer Club as before. More details nearer the time but it would be an ideal venue for a guest speaker - stage, P.A. projector screen etc.

I hope to be coming, but I'm moving to Cambridge this weekend as I have a new job, I belive there is a Cambridge Lug though so maybe I could contact them and do a tie in meeting or something?

Adam

=== MESSAGE 6 === Subject: Alug 29 From: Brett Parker <B.Parker@uea.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:38:59 +0100

OK - the room has now been booked for Alug 29. Its in the same room at UEA as it has been held before and is booked for the 21 May. Mark said sommit bout a SuSE person and are they coming to this one or the next, seens as I haven't got a clue about this would someone please work out what he's going on about ;)

Rite - its between 1400 and 1900 probably followed by bar, hope to see u all there.

Brett (Ho hum, as usual there be the nice signs pointing the way from the car park)

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