lenny and virtual box
I run VB under Lenny, W2K, for a specialist CAD program. Works perfectly. Would probably work better with more memory, the rest of the system does slow down a bit. Only have 1G of which 512 is allocated to the VM. I can't get shared folders to work, which is tiresome, so I email files back and forth - once they are exported in dxf they can be worked on in QCAD. Peter
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 07:28:18AM +0000, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
I run VB under Lenny, W2K, for a specialist CAD program. Works perfectly. Would probably work better with more memory, the rest of the system does slow down a bit. Only have 1G of which 512 is allocated to the VM.
I can't get shared folders to work, which is tiresome, so I email files back and forth - once they are exported in dxf they can be worked on in QCAD.
I'm surprised you can't get shared folders to work, it's one of the things that seemed to me to work much better in VirtualBox than in Vmware. In Vmware I resorted to using samba to share files with the Windows guest. What problem do you have when trying to make some Linux filesystem visible to the Windows guest? -- Chris Green
On 22-Feb-09 09:03:01, Chris G wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 07:28:18AM +0000, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
I run VB under Lenny, W2K, for a specialist CAD program. Works perfectly. Would probably work better with more memory, the rest of the system does slow down a bit. Only have 1G of which 512 is allocated to the VM.
I can't get shared folders to work, which is tiresome, so I email files back and forth - once they are exported in dxf they can be worked on in QCAD.
I'm surprised you can't get shared folders to work, it's one of the things that seemed to me to work much better in VirtualBox than in Vmware. In Vmware I resorted to using samba to share files with the Windows guest.
What problem do you have when trying to make some Linux filesystem visible to the Windows guest? -- Chris Green
I'm running Debian Etch in VirtualBox on Windows XP. I too agree that VB works very smoothly and effectively (especially since I added that extra 1GB RAM to bring it up to 2GB, since in 1GB with 512MB for the guest, XP regularly got very close to the limit!). However, I've not noticed provision for file-sharing between the Linux guest and the XP host, and I'd be very interested in that! At present, when I want to transfer files between the two, I use a USB stick. Works fine, of course, but is quite a hassle. So: Where does one locate the file-sharing facilities? (And I'd like it to work both ways). With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 22-Feb-09 Time: 09:30:48 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:30:50AM -0000, Ted Harding wrote:
On 22-Feb-09 09:03:01, Chris G wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 07:28:18AM +0000, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
I run VB under Lenny, W2K, for a specialist CAD program. Works perfectly. Would probably work better with more memory, the rest of the system does slow down a bit. Only have 1G of which 512 is allocated to the VM.
I can't get shared folders to work, which is tiresome, so I email files back and forth - once they are exported in dxf they can be worked on in QCAD.
I'm surprised you can't get shared folders to work, it's one of the things that seemed to me to work much better in VirtualBox than in Vmware. In Vmware I resorted to using samba to share files with the Windows guest.
What problem do you have when trying to make some Linux filesystem visible to the Windows guest? -- Chris Green
I'm running Debian Etch in VirtualBox on Windows XP. I too agree that VB works very smoothly and effectively (especially since I added that extra 1GB RAM to bring it up to 2GB, since in 1GB with 512MB for the guest, XP regularly got very close to the limit!).
However, I've not noticed provision for file-sharing between the Linux guest and the XP host, and I'd be very interested in that! At present, when I want to transfer files between the two, I use a USB stick. Works fine, of course, but is quite a hassle.
So: Where does one locate the file-sharing facilities? (And I'd like it to work both ways).
Ah, you're running it the opposite way round to what I'm doing, I have a Windows XP guest running on an xubuntu 8.10 host. However as far as I can tell from the documentation it should work for you just as well as it does for me. OK, first question, do you have the "VirtualBox Guest Additions" installed on your guest system, this is a prerequisite. Then you go to the "Devices" menu and select "Shared Folders...." and specify which folders in the host machine you want to make available to the guest machine. (That's the "Devices" menu in the VirtualBox process running on your host.) Once you have done that you mount the shared folder as a filesystem in the Linux guest. It's all fairly well documented in section 4.6 of the manual. -- Chris Green
On 22-Feb-09 09:44:11, Chris G wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:30:50AM -0000, Ted Harding wrote:
On 22-Feb-09 09:03:01, Chris G wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 07:28:18AM +0000, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
I run VB under Lenny, W2K, for a specialist CAD program. Works perfectly. Would probably work better with more memory, the rest of the system does slow down a bit. Only have 1G of which 512 is allocated to the VM.
I can't get shared folders to work, which is tiresome, so I email files back and forth - once they are exported in dxf they can be worked on in QCAD.
I'm surprised you can't get shared folders to work, it's one of the things that seemed to me to work much better in VirtualBox than in Vmware. In Vmware I resorted to using samba to share files with the Windows guest.
What problem do you have when trying to make some Linux filesystem visible to the Windows guest? -- Chris Green
I'm running Debian Etch in VirtualBox on Windows XP. I too agree that VB works very smoothly and effectively (especially since I added that extra 1GB RAM to bring it up to 2GB, since in 1GB with 512MB for the guest, XP regularly got very close to the limit!).
However, I've not noticed provision for file-sharing between the Linux guest and the XP host, and I'd be very interested in that! At present, when I want to transfer files between the two, I use a USB stick. Works fine, of course, but is quite a hassle.
So: Where does one locate the file-sharing facilities? (And I'd like it to work both ways).
Ah, you're running it the opposite way round to what I'm doing, I have a Windows XP guest running on an xubuntu 8.10 host. However as far as I can tell from the documentation it should work for you just as well as it does for me.
OK, first question, do you have the "VirtualBox Guest Additions" installed on your guest system, this is a prerequisite. Then you go to the "Devices" menu and select "Shared Folders...." and specify which folders in the host machine you want to make available to the guest machine. (That's the "Devices" menu in the VirtualBox process running on your host.)
Once you have done that you mount the shared folder as a filesystem in the Linux guest.
It's all fairly well documented in section 4.6 of the manual. -- Chris Green
Many thanks, Chris! A fair bit of the above was staring me in the face, once I looked in the right place. I'll follow the guidance and see how I get on! First step: Find the Guest Additions for Linux ... ! Thanks again. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 22-Feb-09 Time: 10:39:22 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
On 22-Feb-09 10:39:25, Ted Harding wrote:
On 22-Feb-09 09:44:11, Chris G wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:30:50AM -0000, Ted Harding wrote:
[...] I'm running Debian Etch in VirtualBox on Windows XP. I too agree that VB works very smoothly and effectively (especially since I added that extra 1GB RAM to bring it up to 2GB, since in 1GB with 512MB for the guest, XP regularly got very close to the limit!).
However, I've not noticed provision for file-sharing between the Linux guest and the XP host, and I'd be very interested in that! At present, when I want to transfer files between the two, I use a USB stick. Works fine, of course, but is quite a hassle.
So: Where does one locate the file-sharing facilities? (And I'd like it to work both ways).
Ah, you're running it the opposite way round to what I'm doing, I have a Windows XP guest running on an xubuntu 8.10 host. However as far as I can tell from the documentation it should work for you just as well as it does for me.
OK, first question, do you have the "VirtualBox Guest Additions" installed on your guest system, this is a prerequisite. Then you go to the "Devices" menu and select "Shared Folders...." and specify which folders in the host machine you want to make available to the guest machine. (That's the "Devices" menu in the VirtualBox process running on your host.)
Once you have done that you mount the shared folder as a filesystem in the Linux guest.
It's all fairly well documented in section 4.6 of the manual. -- Chris Green
Many thanks, Chris! A fair bit of the above was staring me in the face, once I looked in the right place. I'll follow the guidance and see how I get on!
First step: Find the Guest Additions for Linux ... ! Thanks again. Ted.
Well, thanks a lot, Chris! Got the Additions installed properly, and then connected the designated shared folders. and all seems well! Cheers, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 22-Feb-09 Time: 22:14:42 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:14:45PM -0000, Ted Harding wrote:
On 22-Feb-09 10:39:25, Ted Harding wrote:
On 22-Feb-09 09:44:11, Chris G wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:30:50AM -0000, Ted Harding wrote:
[...] I'm running Debian Etch in VirtualBox on Windows XP. I too agree that VB works very smoothly and effectively (especially since I added that extra 1GB RAM to bring it up to 2GB, since in 1GB with 512MB for the guest, XP regularly got very close to the limit!).
However, I've not noticed provision for file-sharing between the Linux guest and the XP host, and I'd be very interested in that! At present, when I want to transfer files between the two, I use a USB stick. Works fine, of course, but is quite a hassle.
So: Where does one locate the file-sharing facilities? (And I'd like it to work both ways).
Ah, you're running it the opposite way round to what I'm doing, I have a Windows XP guest running on an xubuntu 8.10 host. However as far as I can tell from the documentation it should work for you just as well as it does for me.
OK, first question, do you have the "VirtualBox Guest Additions" installed on your guest system, this is a prerequisite. Then you go to the "Devices" menu and select "Shared Folders...." and specify which folders in the host machine you want to make available to the guest machine. (That's the "Devices" menu in the VirtualBox process running on your host.)
Once you have done that you mount the shared folder as a filesystem in the Linux guest.
It's all fairly well documented in section 4.6 of the manual. -- Chris Green
Many thanks, Chris! A fair bit of the above was staring me in the face, once I looked in the right place. I'll follow the guidance and see how I get on!
First step: Find the Guest Additions for Linux ... ! Thanks again. Ted.
Well, thanks a lot, Chris! Got the Additions installed properly, and then connected the designated shared folders. and all seems well!
Excellent, glad to hear it. I certainly find the shared folders in VirtualBox much better than the equivalent in Vmware (though I should hope that Vmware will have improved theirs by now). It means that I can use Linux filesystems from my Windows guest for critical data and back it up very easily in Linux. -- Chris Green
Right. I warned you I'd be asking questions! I'll pile them in one at a time - or rather, a topic at a time. While I'm putting together the all-singing, all-dancing box, I intend housing Lenny on a 500 GB IDE drive in a nice comfy tray. I did get advice on what partitions, sizes and filesystems were ideal, but Windows (or something, but I suspect Windows) sulked when I was talking Penguin and destroyed the boot sector, and left the e-mail/news database open, so when I repaired the boot sector the database refused to work, so I'm reverting to a slightly older backup one which is missing the post with the advice on it. (From a Debian developer, BTW) I *COULD* open the database in Wordpad, but it's a b*****'s muddle... So, rather than use the 40 GB HDD I mentioned somewhere down \/ there, I'm using the 500 GB one, loading everything on the 5 Lenny DVDs, and installing what I think I need. How would the team suggest I go about it, bearing in mind it's probably four years since I played with installing a Linux distro? (Based on Sarge) On a pristine HDD Ffrom the gubbins on Lenny DVD 1? Partition and format using Knoppix 5.3 first and present Lenny with fait accompli? (I've got a bone to pick with Knoppix, but I'll leave that one on the file.) And what sizes of partitions, and with which filesystems, bearing in mind that Windows won't be present to meddle? I was intending to use ext3 except for memory sticks, which will be ext2 - but, what is XFS, and, pros and cons? -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
Whilst vaguely on the subject of Virtual Machines has anyone else noticed that Citrix are now giving away a pretty feature complete builds of XenServer ? The feature set is interesting enough that on paper it puts it ahead of many of the paid for features in say VMware' ESX server. http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1686939 Has anyone tried it yet. The next time I have a VT capable box to play with it is going on. The biggy for me is the P2V tools, they are the reason I am on VMware rather than some of the Free alternatives because we use them to quickly put together DR environments and to sandbox "risky" upgrades. If the Citrix ones work as well as the VMware ones then this will be good.
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I run VB under Lenny, W2K, for a specialist CAD program. Works perfectly. Would probably work better with more memory, the rest of the system does slow down a bit. Only have 1G of which 512 is allocated to the VM.
Ta. When using it, can I allocate all the memory? As far as I can see (but - who knows?) I really only want it for my news and mail software. And no - there isn't another program to come within a mile of ZIMACS - IMO, of course...
I can't get shared folders to work, which is tiresome, so I email files back and forth - once they are exported in dxf they can be worked on in QCAD.
To be honest, I really have no idea what 'shared folders' are, per se. Some directories on this box have in them files of many types - HTML, text, jpegs, bitmaps, etc., but I don't suppose that's wahat is meant. -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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