Im new to this list(and fairly newbie at linux). Is there a way to install sisela to the harddrive of a notebook for example. Would be nice to add some other packages for statistic and so on.
/Mikael
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 11:30:20AM +0200, Mikael ?sth wrote:
Im new to this list(and fairly newbie at linux). Is there a way to install sisela to the harddrive of a notebook for example. Would be nice to add some other packages for statistic and so on.
There isn't currently a way to install Sisela to a hard drive. If someone really wanted to do it I'd suggest starting from the source package, adding the necessary IDE/SCSI support to the kernel configuration, and then putting the whole FAT & SYSLINUX setup on a hard disk partition instead of a floppy.
But *why*? There are literally hundreds of other Linux distributions designed to install to hard drives, including dozens designed for similar purposes as Sisela.
You *can't* add any extra packages to an installed Sisela setup. Everything's built together so that unnecessary library code can be taken out to save space.
The point of this project was to make the most capable networking system that could possibly fit on a floppy. Now people keep asking for it to do something else, when there are plenty of alternatives - mostly with more maintenance than one busy student.
What do people like so much about Sisela?
Martin
I like sisela for its ease of use, simplicity, that it supports wifi so easily, that it auto detects the networking hardware, and that it uses a 2.4 kernel with iptables - so many others use ip chains. The only thing that I havent been successful in is getting it to control my ppoe adsl connection... A
Martin Ling said:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 11:30:20AM +0200, Mikael ?sth wrote:
Im new to this list(and fairly newbie at linux). Is there a way to install sisela to the harddrive of a notebook for example. Would be nice to add some other packages for statistic and so on.
There isn't currently a way to install Sisela to a hard drive. If someone really wanted to do it I'd suggest starting from the source package, adding the necessary IDE/SCSI support to the kernel configuration, and then putting the whole FAT & SYSLINUX setup on a hard disk partition instead of a floppy.
But *why*? There are literally hundreds of other Linux distributions designed to install to hard drives, including dozens designed for similar purposes as Sisela.
You *can't* add any extra packages to an installed Sisela setup. Everything's built together so that unnecessary library code can be taken out to save space.
The point of this project was to make the most capable networking system that could possibly fit on a floppy. Now people keep asking for it to do something else, when there are plenty of alternatives - mostly with more maintenance than one busy student.
What do people like so much about Sisela?
Martin
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What do people like so much about Sisela?
Well, a number of things actually... :) here's my personal list:
+ it fits one disk, which makes it a good solution for low-cost wireless-nodes built from recycled hardware + lots of useful features (dhcpd, sshd, ...), most of which i haven't had the time yet to check out + its (afaik) completely free software + its very configurable + its very stable, which unfortunately can`t be said about floppy drives and disks. we had one node running it for over 6 months, until we had to reboot for configuration changes - only to discover that the disk had not survived the time...
we are using sisela quite extensively here in weimar, germany, for building a community-owned wireless network (http://subsignal.org/wireless), and have so far had good experiences with it. using old 486 & pentium-I machines, 802.11b pcmcia cards and a floppy we can cut the costs for a node as low as approx. 50 euros (excluding antennas). which is about 40 euros less than the "high-end" solution, the linksys wrt54g's for the not-so-shell-addicted people.
all in all, great stuff. we appreciate your work. :)
that said.... a few, uhm, questions?
- do you see a chance of including ndiswrapper into the next release? [http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/] we've had some issues with recent pci-wireless cards not being supported by the prism54 drivers, such as the SMC2802W v2.
- the Makefile... hm.. maybe there is a possibility to mirror the necessary files for sisela in one location, so the wget doesn`t break?
best regards, (from another busy student;) ),
-lars
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