Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
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Hi all
Once again I am slightly confused, this time I am blaming it on my fall after the shower at Shifford Lock, I always knew cleanliness was overrated.
Cause of confusion:
Which swims did you complete in the rain on Sunday 12th June?
Vivien Adam, Andrew Sansum and I did a catch up but which swims did we complete and what was the date of this swim?
I will not be able to sleep tonight unless these questions are answered.
Colin
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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Have 2 or more good glasses of red wine to dilute the river water, and you'll sleep like a baby...
________________________________
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Colin Palmer Sent: 14 August 2011 19:46 To: 'Chris Dalton'; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi all
Once again I am slightly confused, this time I am blaming it on my fall after the shower at Shifford Lock, I always knew cleanliness was overrated.
Cause of confusion:
Which swims did you complete in the rain on Sunday 12th June?
Vivien Adam, Andrew Sansum and I did a catch up but which swims did we complete and what was the date of this swim?
I will not be able to sleep tonight unless these questions are answered.
Colin
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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This is my normal remedy however the thought of my 'I Love the Thames' book lagging so far behind Vivien's means a sleepless night is nigh. I am just about to force youngest daughter to cut and paste Chris' Garmin maps into pages for swims 16 & 18, can this be construed as child cruelty?
Luckily no clamp on car at The Trout at Tadpole Bridge and hand brake turn in car park meant I escaped angry landlady, arrived back at the Swan at Radcot to find family had thoroughly enjoyed carvery but lunch was no longer being served, so it was cold Jalfreizi on return home
Yet another very enjoyable weekend.
Colin
From: Liz Holliss [mailto:lizholliss@btconnect.com] Sent: 14 August 2011 19:53 To: Colin Palmer; Chris Dalton; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: RE: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Have 2 or more good glasses of red wine to dilute the river water, and you'll sleep like a baby...
_____
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Colin Palmer Sent: 14 August 2011 19:46 To: 'Chris Dalton'; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi all
Once again I am slightly confused, this time I am blaming it on my fall after the shower at Shifford Lock, I always knew cleanliness was overrated.
Cause of confusion:
Which swims did you complete in the rain on Sunday 12th June?
Vivien Adam, Andrew Sansum and I did a catch up but which swims did we complete and what was the date of this swim?
I will not be able to sleep tonight unless these questions are answered.
Colin
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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Thank you, all, for a lovely memorable weekend. Enjoying a beer with my feet up and hoping some photos might appear on facebook!??
Looking forward to the next..
Ann
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Colin Palmer Sent: 14 August 2011 20:04 To: 'Liz Holliss'; 'Chris Dalton'; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
This is my normal remedy however the thought of my 'I Love the Thames' book lagging so far behind Vivien's means a sleepless night is nigh. I am just about to force youngest daughter to cut and paste Chris' Garmin maps into pages for swims 16 & 18, can this be construed as child cruelty?
Luckily no clamp on car at The Trout at Tadpole Bridge and hand brake turn in car park meant I escaped angry landlady, arrived back at the Swan at Radcot to find family had thoroughly enjoyed carvery but lunch was no longer being served, so it was cold Jalfreizi on return home
Yet another very enjoyable weekend.
Colin
From: Liz Holliss [mailto:lizholliss@btconnect.com] Sent: 14 August 2011 19:53 To: Colin Palmer; Chris Dalton; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: RE: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Have 2 or more good glasses of red wine to dilute the river water, and you'll sleep like a baby...
_____
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Colin Palmer Sent: 14 August 2011 19:46 To: 'Chris Dalton'; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi all
Once again I am slightly confused, this time I am blaming it on my fall after the shower at Shifford Lock, I always knew cleanliness was overrated.
Cause of confusion:
Which swims did you complete in the rain on Sunday 12th June?
Vivien Adam, Andrew Sansum and I did a catch up but which swims did we complete and what was the date of this swim?
I will not be able to sleep tonight unless these questions are answered.
Colin
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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Dear all,
I've put up what photos I have of all the swims from Buscot to Grafton to Radcot to Tadpole to Shifford, which can be found at
http://sharoncurtis.me.uk/swimming.html
I'm afraid they aren't very well balanced of the entire group; my tame photographer (thank you Charles!) is a little biased. But enjoy anyway...!
Sharon
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Ann Chance ann.chance@swerveaccounting.co.uk wrote:
Thank you, all, for a lovely memorable weekend. Enjoying a beer with my feet up and hoping some photos might appear on facebook!??
Looking forward to the next….
Ann
Yes - i too must now do a Mrs Viv - her book was just soooo wonderful. Alas, I have no children to do cutting and pasting.... wonder what mr Jo is up to today?? Hmmm.
From: colin.palmer@talktalk.net To: lizholliss@btconnect.com; seedy@breakingglass.net; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:03:43 +0100 Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
This is my normal remedy however the thought of my ‘I Love the Thames’ book lagging so far behind Vivien’s means a sleepless night is nigh. I am just about to force youngest daughter to cut and paste Chris’ Garmin maps into pages for swims 16 & 18, can this be construed as child cruelty?
Luckily no clamp on car at The Trout at Tadpole Bridge and hand brake turn in car park meant I escaped angry landlady, arrived back at the Swan at Radcot to find family had thoroughly enjoyed carvery but lunch was no longer being served, so it was cold Jalfreizi on return home
Yet another very enjoyable weekend.
Colin
From: Liz Holliss [mailto:lizholliss@btconnect.com] Sent: 14 August 2011 19:53 To: Colin Palmer; Chris Dalton; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: RE: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Have 2 or more good glasses of red wine to dilute the river water, and you'll sleep like a baby...
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Colin Palmer Sent: 14 August 2011 19:46 To: 'Chris Dalton'; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9 Hi all
Once again I am slightly confused, this time I am blaming it on my fall after the shower at Shifford Lock, I always knew cleanliness was overrated.
Cause of confusion:
Which swims did you complete in the rain on Sunday 12th June?
Vivien Adam, Andrew Sansum and I did a catch up but which swims did we complete and what was the date of this swim?
I will not be able to sleep tonight unless these questions are answered.
Colin
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I’m about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km Total distance travelled: 63.41km Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3798 - Release Date: 07/30/11 _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.
Hello
If child labour can be found, is there any chance of someone from the group also recording what you do on the new map, wildswim.com? might be a great source for other OSS members in the future (could be links to garmin, which I can see has additional features.)
K
Kate Rew
07931 546241
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From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Jo-Anne Rutterford Sent: 15 August 2011 14:19 To: colin.palmer@talktalk.net; lizholliss@btconnect.com; seedy@breakingglass.net; ossoxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Yes - i too must now do a Mrs Viv - her book was just soooo wonderful. Alas, I have no children to do cutting and pasting.... wonder what mr Jo is up to today?? Hmmm.
_____
From: colin.palmer@talktalk.net To: lizholliss@btconnect.com; seedy@breakingglass.net; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:03:43 +0100 Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
This is my normal remedy however the thought of my 'I Love the Thames' book lagging so far behind Vivien's means a sleepless night is nigh. I am just about to force youngest daughter to cut and paste Chris' Garmin maps into pages for swims 16 & 18, can this be construed as child cruelty?
Luckily no clamp on car at The Trout at Tadpole Bridge and hand brake turn in car park meant I escaped angry landlady, arrived back at the Swan at Radcot to find family had thoroughly enjoyed carvery but lunch was no longer being served, so it was cold Jalfreizi on return home
Yet another very enjoyable weekend.
Colin
From: Liz Holliss [mailto:lizholliss@btconnect.com] Sent: 14 August 2011 19:53 To: Colin Palmer; Chris Dalton; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: RE: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Have 2 or more good glasses of red wine to dilute the river water, and you'll sleep like a baby...
_____
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] mailto:%5bmailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li%5d On Behalf Of Colin Palmer Sent: 14 August 2011 19:46 To: 'Chris Dalton'; OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi all
Once again I am slightly confused, this time I am blaming it on my fall after the shower at Shifford Lock, I always knew cleanliness was overrated.
Cause of confusion:
Which swims did you complete in the rain on Sunday 12th June?
Vivien Adam, Andrew Sansum and I did a catch up but which swims did we complete and what was the date of this swim?
I will not be able to sleep tonight unless these questions are answered.
Colin
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] mailto:%5bmailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li%5d On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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_______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.
well done you guys! (haven't been totally lazy today though - have been down under in gruesome gravel pit in Gloucester again - 2 dive tests (drysuit) and token swim (wetsuit) - water beautifully clear on the surface, and not tooo cold. Rivers are prettier though...
________________________________
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Chris Dalton Sent: 14 August 2011 19:04 To: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Hi Gang,
Great effort this weekend everyone. Thanks to all who helped to make it so special! I'm about ready for bed!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497637
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106497824
Distance travelled today: 5.08 and 5.30km
Total distance travelled: 63.41km
Distance travelled since Cricklade: 43.04 km
Distance remaining to Teddington Lock: 174.96 km
Distance remaining to Sea Reach No1 Buoy: 280.59 km
CD
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Yo Yo, Here is me pimping myself for Speedo, during the big jump - see the link below. I think I got OSS mentions in there a good few times! See you watery folks soon I hope, Bex
Hi Rebecca,****
** **
Just a quick note to let you know that you’re the first of the Oxford Big Jumpers to have been added to the Speedo Unforgettable Swims website.****
** **
You can find your story here: http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/full-moon-swim/****
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Please feel free to share it with your friends and family!****
** **
Many thanks for all your help.****
Tom
Me too!
http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/moonlit-swim/
and a reminder of a great jump!
Dee
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dee Keane
Transformation Swimming Oxford
www.dklearning.com
Tel 01865 203570
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Rebecca White Sent: 19 August 2011 14:51 To: Chris Dalton Cc: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Yo Yo,
Here is me pimping myself for Speedo, during the big jump - see the link below. I think I got OSS mentions in there a good few times!
See you watery folks soon I hope,
Bex
Hi Rebecca,
Just a quick note to let you know that you're the first of the Oxford Big Jumpers to have been added to the Speedo Unforgettable Swims website.
You can find your story here: http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/full-moon-swim/
Please feel free to share it with your friends and family!
Many thanks for all your help.
Tom
Whooo hoo - well done Dee
From: swim@dklearning.com To: rebeccamarenwhite@googlemail.com; seedy@breakingglass.net Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 14:55:03 +0100 CC: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Me too! http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/moonlit-swim/
and a reminder of a great jump! Dee
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dee Keane Transformation Swimming Oxford www.dklearning.com Tel 01865 203570
From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Rebecca White Sent: 19 August 2011 14:51 To: Chris Dalton Cc: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9
Yo Yo,
Here is me pimping myself for Speedo, during the big jump - see the link below. I think I got OSS mentions in there a good few times!
See you watery folks soon I hope,
Bex
Hi Rebecca, Just a quick note to let you know that you’re the first of the Oxford Big Jumpers to have been added to the Speedo Unforgettable Swims website. You can find your story here: http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/full-moon-swim/ Please feel free to share it with your friends and family! Many thanks for all your help. Tom
_______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.
That - Dee was indeed a most memorable moonlight swim. i smiled though at your description of "an air of silence". I recall that when we got in up at the bridge there were some kids in an off road machine driving wildly around the fields shining a search light into the river. I suspect that when they spotted us (drifting downriver in the dark) they suddenly realised that there were loonies about!
Regards Andrew
On 5 Sep 2011, at 14:55, Transformation Swimming wrote:
Me too! http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/moonlit-swim/
and a reminder of a great jump! Dee
Dee Keane Transformation Swimming Oxford www.dklearning.com Tel 01865 203570 From: ossoxon-bounces@earth.li [mailto:ossoxon-bounces@earth.li] On Behalf Of Rebecca White Sent: 19 August 2011 14:51 To: Chris Dalton Cc: OSSOxon@earth.li; ossrats@earth.li Subject: Re: [OSS Oxon] OSS Swim the Thames #8 and 9 Yo Yo, Here is me pimping myself for Speedo, during the big jump - see the link below. I think I got OSS mentions in there a good few times! See you watery folks soon I hope, Bex Hi Rebecca, Just a quick note to let you know that you’re the first of the Oxford Big Jumpers to have been added to the Speedo Unforgettable Swims website. You can find your story here: http://unforgettableswims.speedo.com/en/swims/full-moon-swim/ Please feel free to share it with your friends and family! Many thanks for all your help. Tom _______________________________________________ OSS Oxon mailing list OSSOxon@earth.li http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ossoxon Please note that OSS Oxon exists to put swimmers in touch with other swimmers, not to organise swim events or in any way suggest that outdoor swimming is a safe activity or that you should go swimming. If you choose to swim you do so entirely at your own risk and on your own initiative, and any plans you make are your own responsibility.