A bit over a decade ago, I took advantage of Google's free G-Suite, back when it allowed 50 users. I did this both for work (the domain I'm sending this from) and separately for personal use. As a consequence of there being 50 free users I set up several mailboxes for various purposes. Now that the free service is being migrated to a per-user pricing model I need to change to something else. For work I'll just accept that we've had a good run and pay the subscription charges (albeit we'll likely ditch a few of the users). But for my personal domain - where I am the only user - I want to switch. I don't need the other collaborative tools (I have a few Google docs/sheets but can migrate them to my work email). But having had it easy for a decade I've lost track of what my options are. Google has of-course spoiled me with very good anti-spam and I'm reluctant to go down the self-hosted route for that reason although that's not to say it's completely out of the question. (I'm happy running up a hosted VM but wouldn't have a clue what software to use these days, or how to administer it and keep it secure. But I could learn if it was the right approach.) What do people here use? (Client-wise I currently use the GMail site - I found it convenient to do that rather so I had a familiar user interface on any PC I might use to check my email. Before GMail I used TBird but that's a long time ago now.) -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0344 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER
On 08/04/2022 12:21, Mark Rogers wrote:
{} Now that the free service is being migrated to a per-user pricing model I need to change to something else. For work I'll just accept that we've had a good run and pay the subscription charges (albeit we'll likely ditch a few of the users). But for my personal domain - where I am the only user - I want to switch.
{} I don't have anything to add, but I wonder if I might jump in and ask a similar question. I run my own mail server. Previously I was with Demon Internet, and both now and with Demon, I could have unlimited email addresses, for any number of users along the form of user@mydomaim.co.uk and user-anysuffix@mydomain.co.uk I've got used to being able to do this and find it quite useful, but unfortunately it's becoming harder to run your own mail server and have people accepts its mail. What do people use for email? Presumably most use their ISP. Does any company offer something similar to what I've currently got that's affordable? Cheers Steve
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 16:25:22 +0100 steve-ALUG@hst.me.uk wrote:
unlimited email addresses, for any number of users along the form of
user@mydomaim.co.uk and user-anysuffix@mydomain.co.uk [...] What do people use for email? Presumably most use their ISP. Does any company offer something similar to what I've currently got that's affordable?
I expect a dwindling number might. Whether it's affordable depends on how deep your pockets are! The reason why cheaper ISPs don't like automatic aliases like that is that spammers are very very stupid and soon start trying to send to user and user-anysuffix and user-anothersuffix and so on and so forth. Even if you detect them as spam (either through a filter or honeypot suffix) and then block the sending server after too many failures, it still all can add up to significant extra resources because there are so many very very stupid spammers out there, with a special mention to the lovely ones who use the big free webmail providers to send some of it out. Those big free webmail providers really don't like it if you block their servers, either! Until earlier this year, I still had one domain with a wildcard alias (so anything@domain would get delivered to a mailbox) but it's just not sustainable any more, so that's gone. Sorry I can't offer a solution: only sympathy. Regards, -- MJR http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ Member of http://www.software.coop/ (but this email is my personal view only)
On 08/04/2022 12:21, Mark Rogers wrote:
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Now that the free service is being migrated to a per-user pricing model I need to change to something else. For work I'll just accept that we've had a good run and pay the subscription charges (albeit we'll likely ditch a few of the users). But for my personal domain - where I am the only user - I want to switch.
{} I don't have anything to add, but I wonder if I might jump in and ask a similar question. I run my own mail server. Previously I was with Demon Internet, and both now and with Demon, I could have unlimited email addresses, for any number of users along the form of user@mydomaim.co.uk and user-anysuffix@mydomain.co.uk I've got used to being able to do this and find it quite useful, but unfortunately it's becoming harder to run your own mail server and have people accepts its mail. What do people use for email? Presumably most use their ISP. Does any company offer something similar to what I've currently got that's affordable? Cheers Steve
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 16:55:10 +0100 steve-ALUG@hst.me.uk allegedly wrote:
I don't have anything to add, but I wonder if I might jump in and ask a similar question. I run my own mail server. Previously I was with Demon Internet, and both now and with Demon, I could have unlimited email addresses, for any number of users along the form of
user@mydomaim.co.uk and user-anysuffix@mydomain.co.uk
I've got used to being able to do this and find it quite useful, but unfortunately it's becoming harder to run your own mail server and have people accepts its mail.
What do people use for email? Presumably most use their ISP. Does any company offer something similar to what I've currently got that's affordable?
I have run my own mail server (postfix/dovecot/opendkim) on a rented VM (currently at Hetzner) for years. Increasingly though, it is becoming difficult to do so without a significant investment in time. Partly I continue to do so because it is a hobby, partly because I like the control it gives me and partly just because I'm bloody minded. But if I were starting again now I would host my mail with a specialist. My wife uses 1&1 (ionos) for her domain and it costs her pennies. See https://www.ionos.co.uk/office-solutions/create-an-email-address Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 https://baldric.net/about-trivia ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On 08/04/2022 16:55, steve-ALUG@hst.me.uk wrote: Oops - Repeated post to group. Apologies. Cheers Steve
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