The message <20050422115245.GB5805@pitr> from Brett Parker <iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk> contains these words:

Anthony Anson <tony.anson@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

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I'm used to using Arachnophilia for writing pages (though most of what goes on the page is hand-crafted, not point-and-click.).

What editor would people recommend for running under Debian? (I dislike Mozilla's offering.)

Well, obviously, I would suggest vim... but that's just a text editor ;)

Well, the text editor might be pressed into service, but an HTML editor does nice things like fill your page with a table and provides padded cells therein for when you're a bit overwrought innit. *AND* it does it without making silly typos. (I'm *STILL* wondering sometimes why <centre></centre> doesn't do anything...) The nice thing about HTMLED, Arach, Pagemill etc is that you can use it like a text editor when you want, and when no-one's looking, it'll speed things up for you. To be quite honest, I wouldn't know how to drive a WYSIWYG editor. I began hand-crafting HTML when Mosaic was king, and have made one page (as an experiment, hoest, guv!) in Word 2000 and deleted it, screaming.

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Requirements:

*NOT* a (so-called) WYSIWYG thing. CSS-capable Easily understood by a beer of very little brian. ^^^^ hmmmmm.... beeeeeeeeeeeeeer :)

Yers. I've been thirsty all day...

Right, from that, you might have luck with the ever evil nvu (which is WYSIWYG, and uses the Gecko rendering engine, certainly worth a look (although, it currently segfaults on here), or at Quanta Plus, or even Bluefish. Those are the 3 that spring to my mind, anyways. Of those 3, bluefish is probably the easiest to get to grips with if you're used to tag based markup.

Hmm. Not quite what I'm after. On coverdiscs I have: Dammit! Linux Magazine CDs tell you what's on them, but not what the programs do - and, I haven't got the mags to hand, and the Linux Format DVDs aren't much better in that respect. So, the short answer is, I don't know. I'll have to bring some to the Reindeer.

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Does anyone know of a file which lists all the available HTML tags, and where it can be got?

Depends on the HTML version, but all of the specifications are available from the w3c site, take a look around http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

Ta. I'll have another look. I spent rather too much of my (dial-up) time on W3C downloading a lot of Mañuels.

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could someone please explain (in worms of one syllabub) what <!--SELECTION--><!--/SELECTION--> does?

Right, generally <!-- donates the start of a comment and --> the end of it. So, at a guess, that just tells pagemill that this is the beginning and end of a SELECTION, what ever one of those may be :)

Does it tell a browser anything, though? I've got a print-out of a W3C thing on XHTML Modules and Markup Languages, but it assumes too much about how much I know. And it's wrong. -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.

The message <039f01c54762$5ae102b0$1fc70005@mark> from "Mark Rogers" <mark@quarella.co.uk> contains these words:

Anthony Anson writes:

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could someone please explain (in worms of one syllabub) what <!--SELECTION--><!--/SELECTION--> does?

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Does it tell a browser anything, though? I've got a print-out of a W3C thing on XHTML Modules and Markup Languages, but it assumes too much about how much I know.

The browser should (and will) completely ignore it.

Thanks - yes, Jim Rippon clarified that, and I've now found the relevant passage in one of the W3C documents. Very handy, and I wish I'd known about that *YEARS* ago. -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.

The message <4268E9C3.3090205@rippon.org.uk> from Jim Rippon <jim@rippon.org.uk> contains these words:

Anthony Anson wrote:

I have always used Bluefish and Quanta for my Linux editing, although I also have NVU at home as my girlfriend prefers the WYSIWYG editors...

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl http://quanta.kdewebdev.org http://www.nvu.com

Thanks.

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I think you are asking about an index of HTML Elements which you can find here:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/elements.html

Thanks - I'll have a look - and probably a download and a hard copy.

This is the W3C index for HTML4.01 spec - I use this page as opposed to the full spec when I am hand coding html as it is much quicker and easier to find the definitions of a particular tag I am entering.

Until recently I was writing stuff that NN4 could cope with, so I should think that's *WELL* modern enough.

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could someone please explain (in worms of one syllabub) what <!--SELECTION--><!--/SELECTION--> does?

(I've been playing with Pagemill, which came with the scanner.)

These are comments - anything between <!-- as the start and --> as the end will be passed over by the browser, so is handy for documenting your HTML code or even temporarily removing part of a page (e.g. if you have a link with a description that needs removing, but you might want to replace it later you could place the code between the <!-- and -->).

HTH,

Yes, it certainly does! I'm off to play with it. Erm - I think I'll rephrase that... -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.

The message <20050422123429.6f7dd792@ws.rg2.tiger-computing.com> from Susan McConnell <susan@jbpc.co.uk> contains these words:

Please excuse the offlist reply.

It came with the list...

I hope you find those links helpful, I use them all the time.

Thanks - added to the list. Ill look at them later this evening. I've just been causing mayhem on a page by modifying the <li><a href+"./page.html/#link></a>link</li> tags in a subsidiary one, to try to put a gif in where the (text) link should be. That thoroughly confused me and Firefox, and any further experiments in that field will be made in specially written test pages... (What I'm trying to do is to link to a subsidiary page, then make a link so that the reader returns to the point of departure rather than top-of-page, like unto how the browser does when you click the 'Go back one page' arrow.) -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.