Forms design for web pages - any ideas?
I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a database from the web (well, actually my intranet). Is there anything out there which can do this? ... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit. (This is as an alernative to using Open Office Base) -- Chris Green
Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
Is there anything out there which can do this?
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
(This is as an alernative to using Open Office Base)
If all else fails, ask the webmaster of your ISP. Mine was always very helpful that way. Thunderbird wanted to reply straight to you and not the list - have any of my other replies to list gone back to author, anybody? Must watch this, and adjust something if so. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
Anthony Anson noted:
Thunderbird wanted to reply straight to you and not the list - have any of my other replies to list gone back to author, anybody?
Must watch this, and adjust something if so.
Mozilla Thunderbird has a known bug: it doesn't support email lists! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29041 Nine years on and still no fix in sight, but there is an extension at http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/replytolist.html which might fix it for you. Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster and LMS developer at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op
MJ Ray wrote:
Anthony Anson noted:
Thunderbird wanted to reply straight to you and not the list - have any of my other replies to list gone back to author, anybody?
Must watch this, and adjust something if so.
Mozilla Thunderbird has a known bug: it doesn't support email lists! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29041
Nine years on and still no fix in sight, but there is an extension at http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/replytolist.html which might fix it for you.
Hope that helps,
Thanks. Before I try to improve Thunderguts, I'm going to have look at K-Mail, which was recommended by the support bod at my ISP. I like the look at it, and the Eee *SEEMS* to have elements of it in the filesystem, but as yet I've not worked-out how to conjure it all. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
Hey, thanks for the fix I've been struggling for ages with that one - using it now. I noticed that Thunderbird 3 has just been released, so I downloaded it to have a look if that bug has been fixed and it appears it has. I installed the binary by unpacking it in my home directory rather than trying to find any debs and replace my working T2 setup. I'm glad I did because I don't think I'm going to use T3 - didn't really like it. Nice fancy account wizard. All I needed to do was to type in my gmail address and password and it did everything for me. I didn't even need to tell it that it was a gmail account - single dialogue box, two entries: username & password. That part was good. The part I didn't like was that it configured my account for IMAP access rather than for POP3 and there was no way to change it. Perhaps if I disabled IMAP in my gmail settings and tried again maybe, but I didn't get that far. It uses a local cache for the IMAP so I assume that it can be used offline when away from an internet connection. When connected it's constantly synchronising back and forth so that any changes in T3 are near instantly reflected in gmail and vice versa. With IMAP all your mail remains in gmail and T3, with POP3 all gmail mail is deleted once downloaded to Thunderbird. I use my laptop 99% of the time, and 50% of that is spent working away from home and using a mobile broadband dongle. At times I do access gmail from the web interface and personal preference is to see it empty, not full of hundreds of emails from the various mailing lists I subscribe to! So I think I'll stick with POP3, T2 (plus the mailing list fix!) and my nice arrangement of folders and mail filters! As a question, if I decided I wanted to start using T3 with IMAP would it be possible to import all my old, already downloaded POP3 emails from T2 into it? I doubt it. Martin Anthony Anson wrote:
MJ Ray wrote:
Anthony Anson noted:
Thunderbird wanted to reply straight to you and not the list - have any of my other replies to list gone back to author, anybody?
Must watch this, and adjust something if so.
Mozilla Thunderbird has a known bug: it doesn't support email lists! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29041
Nine years on and still no fix in sight, but there is an extension at http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/replytolist.html which might fix it for you.
Hope that helps,
Thanks. Before I try to improve Thunderguts, I'm going to have look at K-Mail, which was recommended by the support bod at my ISP.
I like the look at it, and the Eee *SEEMS* to have elements of it in the filesystem, but as yet I've not worked-out how to conjure it all.
On 11/12/2009 14:32, MJ Ray wrote:
Anthony Anson noted:
Thunderbird wanted to reply straight to you and not the list - have any of my other replies to list gone back to author, anybody?
Must watch this, and adjust something if so.
Mozilla Thunderbird has a known bug: it doesn't support email lists! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29041
Nine years on and still no fix in sight, but there is an extension at http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/replytolist.html which might fix it for you.
Hope that helps, Hi
There are two solutions to this in Thunderbird that I know of. The first one is an extension that reads the headers and allows you to act on the list headers. Secondly my Thunderbird v3.0 has a reply to list button. So when I replied to this I pressed reply to list and reply would have sent it straight to the author. Ben
Ben Whyall wrote:
Secondly my Thunderbird v3.0 has a reply to list button. So when I replied to this I pressed reply to list and reply would have sent it straight to the author.
Thanks for that reply and the other similar one. I'll update my web pages when I get a mo. Maybe someone with a mozilla.org account could update the bug report, please? Thanks, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster and LMS developer at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op
Oddly enough, this is next on my list of things to write. You can help me out here... What features would you like to see in such a form designer? Cheers, Steve On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:41:17PM +0000, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
Is there anything out there which can do this?
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
(This is as an alernative to using Open Office Base)
-- Chris Green
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:28:30PM +0000, Steve wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:41:17PM +0000, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
Is there anything out there which can do this?
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
Oddly enough, this is next on my list of things to write.
You can help me out here...
What features would you like to see in such a form designer?
Well what *I* want is basically something like the forms designers in Access and/or OPen Office, plus I suppose the report designers as well. I.e. I want the ability to place 'controls' on a page, define their position, content (link to database field), size, etc. preferably using a drag and drop interface. I don't particularly want the whole database design ability in there, I'm quite happy to do that with other tools or simply directly using the mySql shell for example. So I want a 'drawing area' and the ability to connect to one or more databases, select tables from the databases and enter, edit, display data from those database tables. Once designed I'd like to be able to see the result as a 'stand alone' web page, i.e. no longer connected with the design framework. Does that give you an idea of what I'm after? The closest thing I have found to what I want is phpmyedit (see http://www.phpmyedit.org/). -- Chris Green
Chris G wrote:
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
xataface is another one that comes to mind. Looked quite good when I played with it a while back, although I've not tried phpmyedit (thanks for the pointer). -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:58:15PM +0000, Mark Rogers wrote:
Chris G wrote:
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
xataface is another one that comes to mind. Looked quite good when I played with it a while back, although I've not tried phpmyedit (thanks for the pointer).
Xataface and phpmyedit are quite similar, I think xataface is a little more sophisticated. By searching for both xataface and phpmyedit in Google I came up with a couple of other similar utilities:- DaDaBIK - http://www.dadabik.org/ DataPal - http://www.dbpal.com/ None of these is *quite* what I want though because they all produce a 'ready made' interface to the table[s] you specify. I'm looking for a tool which allows me to lay the interface out myself, preferably using drag and drop to move the data entry boxes around. Xataface gets pretty close to what I want and I think can probably be customised enough to do what I want though. It's just that it's sort of backwards taking the 'standard' interface format and then configuring it to get what one wants. It would (probably/possibly) be easier if I could just draw the interface I want and then connect the database fields to the controls. -- Chris Green
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 05:01:05PM +0000, Chris G wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:58:15PM +0000, Mark Rogers wrote:
Chris G wrote:
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
xataface is another one that comes to mind. Looked quite good when I played with it a while back, although I've not tried phpmyedit (thanks for the pointer).
Xataface and phpmyedit are quite similar, I think xataface is a little more sophisticated.
[snip] ... and I've found what I think is what I want. It's *not* really a Web Framework (in fact it explicitly says it's not) but the latest version has a Web Server add-on using Pylons. It's Dabo which I have considered before but hadn't realised it can now do web apps. It's advanced quite a bit since I last looked and has an AppWizard which does basically what xataface and phpmyedit do but it has a whole lot more as well, much closer to what I want. See http://www.dabodev.com/. -- Chris Green
Chris G asked:
don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
Is there anything out there which can do this?
... and I have looked quite hard, the best I've found so far is phpmyedit.
Before answering, newer readers like to read the previous explanations of what "best" means for Chris and database editors, such as http://lists.alug.org.uk/pipermail/main/2004-November/014343.html Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster and LMS developer at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op
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