Linux.com up and running :)
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk After a bit of waiting, Linux.com is finally up and running, and jolly good it is too. There is even a section for LUGs as well. Only complaint is that some of the pages appear to be wider than 800x600, but that's me just nitpicking. Anybody try Netscape 4.6 under Linux as yet? Seems a bit faster at rendering pages under Windows but so far I've not gotten as far as installing it under Linux. Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk "Martyn B. Drake" wrote:
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After a bit of waiting, Linux.com is finally up and running, and jolly good it is too. There is even a section for LUGs as well. Only complaint is that some of the pages appear to be wider than 800x600, but that's me just nitpicking.
Anybody try Netscape 4.6 under Linux as yet? Seems a bit faster at rendering pages under Windows but so far I've not gotten as far as installing it under Linux.
yup 4.6 under linux is slightly faster, and supposedly more stable, I've used 4.51 every day for a few months and it has only crashed once... on a different note.. I bought a voodoo3 last week, got the beta X server from www.linux3d.org and it works a treat, the alpha 3D Glide drivers came out yesterday, supposedly Q3test works under this, but I have found a "feature" where the screen in blank "".. this card is very, very fast.. under windows it knocks the spots off a voodoo2 !!!.. and Q3test is.. well.. unreal (better than !!) I'll let you all know when the Glide drivers work.... erm.. byeee... Scoobz
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* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk Hello guys, No, not spam, but an offer that is a bit out of this world. Well one person told me about it, now the whole lab appears to be on to it. www.freecall-uk.com Sign up for free internet access, plus a free 0800 number to dial. To my knowledge there are no restrictions. The catch - they want to spam you. They also want to spam your friends. Here's the workaround: Set up a new (bogus) hotmail account. Sign up under this hotmail account. Visit your hotmail account once every few days (I think the agreement is once every 120 days). Now ask 4 friends to join, and give them your referral ID. Your account does not become activated until all four referrals are members. I cannot vouch for this service, until a friend asked me (Bob Long :) to sign up as a referral for him, I had no idea it existed. So now on to you, I need 4 of you to sign up. Please :) Simply reply to this and follow the instructions above and so we know when all four are completed, then others on this list may do the same. I'll let you know when I'm on-line and can test the service out. Other than the four referrals and the spam twice a week, I don't see any catches. Let me know if you know different, but PLEASE sign up giving "Bob Long" as the referral name. Just had word that pcplus.co.uk has a story on it. TIA Regards, James Green Term e-mail: jmkgre@essex.ac.uk | Home e-mail: jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Homepage: http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk On Wed, 19 May 1999 12:41:22 +0100 Neill Newman <njnewm@essex.ac.uk> wrote:
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After a bit of waiting, Linux.com is finally up and running, and jolly good it is too. There is even a section for LUGs as well. Only complaint is that some of the pages appear to be wider than 800x600, but that's me just nitpicking.
Check out the Linux section, Graphic Desktops. Nothing, not a signle entry. ROFL!
Anybody try Netscape 4.6 under Linux as yet? Seems a bit faster at rendering pages under Windows but so far I've not gotten as far as installing it under Linux.
yup 4.6 under linux is slightly faster, and supposedly more stable, I've used 4.51 every day for a few months and it has only crashed once...
NN4.5 under RH5.2 crashes moderately. NN4.5 under RH6 crashes as soon as Java is invoked - try http://news.bbc.co.uk and watch your Netscape window disappear... A number of other people on #linuxhelp report this too. Regards, James Green Term e-mail: jmkgre@essex.ac.uk | Home e-mail: jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Homepage: http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk James Green wrote:
yup 4.6 under linux is slightly faster, and supposedly more stable, I've used 4.51 every day for a few months and it has only crashed once...
NN4.5 under RH5.2 crashes moderately. NN4.5 under RH6 crashes as soon as Java is invoked - try http://news.bbc.co.uk and watch your Netscape window disappear... A number of other people on #linuxhelp report this too.
been there, done that, got the t-shirt.. solved the problem !!!!.. okies I have seeen this on a few machines here.. when an applet is encountered nutscrape buss errors... but when run via X on a different machine it is ok.. The machine on which this was happening had an ATI graphics card in it, (which we all know is not the best thing to have in a linux box) the problem seems to be the interaction between X, netscape and machxx X server, I swapped out the graphics card, put in a crummby S3, did NOT upgrade netscape, configured X and nutscrape all works nice and dandy... I use netscpae 4.51 and 4.6 on a matrox milleium and a voodoo3 2000, which both work with no problems.. which graphics card did you experience this on ?? Scoobz -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Newman Tel: Mobile 07970 673722 Department of Electronics Systems Engineering Work 01206 873708 University of Essex Fax: Work 01206 872900 http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/index.html email: njnewm@essex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk On Wed, 19 May 1999, Neill Newman wrote: [ snip ]
I use netscpae 4.51 and 4.6 on a matrox milleium and a voodoo3 2000, which both work with no problems.. which graphics card did you experience this on ??
A Matrox Millenium II :-) ! Like I said, with RH5.2 it works, under RH6 it doesn't. Mind you, there are, er, a number of other "issues" under RH6 that need, er, "fixing". James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk James Green wrote:
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On Wed, 19 May 1999, Neill Newman wrote:
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I use netscpae 4.51 and 4.6 on a matrox milleium and a voodoo3 2000, which both work with no problems.. which graphics card did you experience this on ??
A Matrox Millenium II :-) !
interesting.. did you try it via X on another machine ??
Like I said, with RH5.2 it works, under RH6 it doesn't. Mind you, there are, er, a number of other "issues" under RH6 that need, er, "fixing".
I use redhat 6 on a few machines, I found the blackdown jdk broke, (blackdown fixed THEIR bug) and latex broke... which could be fixed by adding an environment variable... what "issues" are you speaking of, maybe it's something I am not using.. Sz
James Green
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* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk On Thu, 20 May 1999 11:59:50 +0100 Neill Newman <njnewm@essex.ac.uk> wrote:
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On Wed, 19 May 1999, Neill Newman wrote:
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I use netscpae 4.51 and 4.6 on a matrox milleium and a voodoo3 2000, which both work with no problems.. which graphics card did you experience this on ??
A Matrox Millenium II :-) !
interesting.. did you try it via X on another machine ??
I don't have another machine. Unless you want the amusement of seeing me do it via modem.
Like I said, with RH5.2 it works, under RH6 it doesn't. Mind you, there are, er, a number of other "issues" under RH6 that need, er, "fixing".
I use redhat 6 on a few machines, I found the blackdown jdk broke, (blackdown fixed THEIR bug) and latex broke... which could be fixed by adding an environment variable... what "issues" are you speaking of, maybe it's something I am not using..
Ah, haven't tried putting jdk back on yet. The main probs I've seen: Perl doesn't get built against. Known problem apparently in the efnet support groups; /boot/System.map is a symlink to /boot/System[something red hat]. This symlink needs to be rm'ed else modules won't correspond to the correct version number when you install a new kernel; /usr/include/asm is a symlink to somewhere in /usr/src/[redhat something]. You got to rm /usr/include/asm and mkdir /usr/include/asm and then take out the .h files from the arch-asm in /usr/src/linux/include and bung them in there else almost nothing compiles; Leafnode no longer configures (see previous post); Gimp-1.1.5 no longer makes (says it can't find gimptool/something.h but I checked and it is present); A large number of reports of stuff wrong with Gnome/E in the RH6 RPMS - this is understandable, Gnome at least has come a long way since the RH6 build; The glibc2.1 causes grief for bitchx pana1; d/l the pana3 source to compile it; linuxconf doesn't like me manually making changes to /etc/sendmail.cf - in fact it often fails and stops bootup so I had to remove it from the startup sequence; RH6 is getting a lot of grief on IRC due to it's inclusion of so many unstable beta releases - X11amp is an alpha build and segfaulted whenever I tried adding anything to the playlist; the newest beta build doesn't. That's all I can think of for now... :-( Regards, James Green Term e-mail: jmkgre@essex.ac.uk | Home e-mail: jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Homepage: http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk James Green wrote:
oh before I go on.. I got the voodoo3 and Quake3 working last night.. mmmhhh yum.. it's still a little flakey but it's definatly getting there ;)..
I don't have another machine. Unless you want the amusement of seeing me do it via modem.
er.. I did it once.. via exceed.. took 30 mins to get the nutscrape window up !!!.. never again...
Ah, haven't tried putting jdk back on yet. The main probs I've seen:
Perl doesn't get built against. Known problem apparently in the efnet support groups;
ah I haven't tried perl yet..
/boot/System.map is a symlink to /boot/System[something red hat]. This symlink needs to be rm'ed else modules won't correspond to the correct version number when you install a new kernel;
erm.. System.map is/was symlinked to System.map-2.2.5-15, but I think that lilo points the kernel to /boot/map (or at least mine does.. I can;t remember if I changed it a few years ago)
/usr/include/asm is a symlink to somewhere in /usr/src/[redhat something]. You got to rm /usr/include/asm and mkdir /usr/include/asm and then take out the .h files from the arch-asm in /usr/src/linux/include and bung them in there else almost nothing compiles;
mine looks like this /usr/include/asm -> ../src/linux/include/asm and I have no problems compiling stuff ?? from what you are saying it looks like you are just copying stuff from the src/linux/include/asm directory into /usr/include/asm.. which is strange because this is what the symlink does ??.. I found this link was missing before xmas on redhat 5.1 and I added it to get things to compile then.. so it may have been around for a while (btw my box has been upgraded since redhat 4.2, I have never performed a clean install since a few years ago, and from 5.2-> 6.0 has caused the least amount of problems/hassle)
Leafnode no longer configures (see previous post);
erm don;t use leafnode.. so can't comment there...
Gimp-1.1.5 no longer makes (says it can't find gimptool/something.h but I checked and it is present);
erm.. I have 1.1.4 rpm (suse) installed and it works ok..
A large number of reports of stuff wrong with Gnome/E in the RH6 RPMS - this is understandable, Gnome at least has come a long way since the RH6 build;
yeah Gnome/E is a little flakey as yet, but hopefully it will mature with age.. E certain looks good even if it does crash every few seconds !!..
The glibc2.1 causes grief for bitchx pana1; d/l the pana3 source to compile it;
again don;t use it so I'll pass on that one..
linuxconf doesn't like me manually making changes to /etc/sendmail.cf - in fact it often fails and stops bootup so I had to remove it from the startup sequence;
ah now my pet hate.. linuxconf/yast... I don;t like any of these tools, I prefer to edit files by hand.. call me a nutta, but I perfer to know what is happening, rather than let a proggie do it for me.. the classic one is yast, if you add a NIS domain/server, it automatically adds everybody in the domain to the password file everytime you run it.. which is really anoying cause one of the server here is only supposed to let in a few people !!.. grumble grumble..
RH6 is getting a lot of grief on IRC due to it's inclusion of so many unstable beta releases - X11amp is an alpha build and segfaulted whenever I tried adding anything to the playlist; the newest beta build doesn't.
I found the alpha version more stable than the first beta ??
That's all I can think of for now... :-(
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* List: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk Hi all, Bearing in mind I haven't had news access since installing RH6, I thought I'd best get on with it. But I have hit a hitch: during configure of leafnode-1.9.2, I see this: updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating Makefile sed: file conftest.subs line 32: Unterminated `s' command creating config.h [jg@cyberstorm leafnode-1.9.2]$ make make: *** No targets. Stop. I know it compiled under RH5.2, but not 6.0. Any ideas? Also, I hear that glibc-2.1 has been withdrawn? Is this due to bugs or something? I'm certainly having trouble compiling a number of things, gimp-1.1.5 being one :( I have compiled tin and BX no problems. leafnode-1.9.2 is the latest available. Regards, James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
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