While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible? MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
In article <20000307003522.A1447@stats200.mth.uea.ac.uk> you wrote:
While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible?
It isn't possible if I organise it; I become a father on or about the 23rd, so I may well be rather busy, I'm afraid :-) Aq -- which distribution is best for babies, I wonder? -- Well *done*, Aquarius -- a phrase we love typing because it makes us feel like the boss-character from a 1980s Glen A Larson action series... NTK, http://www.ntk.net/index.cgi?back=archive99/now0618.txt&line=292#l [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
It isn't possible if I organise it; I become a father on or about the 23rd, so I may well be rather busy, I'm afraid :-)
Aq -- which distribution is best for babies, I wonder?
Stalk? Dunno, ask BJ! Congrats, Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell@uea.ac.uk> To: <alug@stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: [alug] ALUG28?
It isn't possible if I organise it; I become a father on or about the 23rd, so I may well be rather busy, I'm afraid :-)
Aq -- which distribution is best for babies, I wonder?
Stalk? Dunno, ask BJ! Congrats,
Ho ho! Don't think it really matters. Having a child is a bit like programming - forget sleep you just won't get any. Good luck, hope you call it Linus if it's a boy! Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Aquarius wrote:
In article <20000307003522.A1447@stats200.mth.uea.ac.uk> you wrote:
While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible?
It isn't possible if I organise it; I become a father on or about the 23rd, so I may well be rather busy, I'm afraid :-)
Congratulations in advance then, hope all goes well.
Aq -- which distribution is best for babies, I wonder?
Debian for Kids is apparently under construction. Given Debian release regularity you can probably expect 1.0 in a couple of years... James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
----- Original Message ----- From: Aquarius <aquarius@kryogenix.albatross.co.uk> To: <alug@stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 7:26 AM Subject: [alug] ALUG28?
In article <20000307003522.A1447@stats200.mth.uea.ac.uk> you wrote:
While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible?
It isn't possible if I organise it; I become a father on or about the 23rd, so I may well be rather busy, I'm afraid :-)
ALUG 1 was held the day my wife was due to drop my third! I went to ALUG, my daughter however had the sense to wait a few days. :-) Incedently, when my second was born I'd booked tickets to a Pink Floyd concert at Earls Court. My second daughter had the forsight to come a couple of days early thank god. As I said to my Mrs. you can have a baby every 9 months but The Floyd only tour ever 10 years! :-) She wasn't impressed. Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 12:35:22AM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
While updating the mail archives, I realised just how long it was between ALUG4 (late October) and ALUG5 (early Feb). Shall we not leave it so long and have ALUG28 later this month? Adam, Aq, is that possible?
Ok I'm looking for a local venue, would April 9th suit everyone? the venue would probably be in Aylsham Norfolk and if not somewhere close, we'll have no outside network connection. I'm looking into a venue in the next few days can people let me know if their available to come. I've been busy though as I just started my OU degree the same week as a new job. I'll let you no how I get on as and when. Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Bower <adamb@thebowery.co.uk> To: <alug@stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: [alug] ALUG28?
I've been busy though as I just started my OU degree .
Interesting I've just started my 5th year, what course are you taking. The OU don't really embrace Linux, too many Mac types for my liking really. Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:53:39PM -0000, John Woodard wrote:
I've been busy though as I just started my OU degree .
Interesting I've just started my 5th year, what course are you taking.
The OU don't really embrace Linux, too many Mac types for my liking really.
Especially the FirstClass system, which is a proprietary version of Usenet, essentially. Why can't people use open standards? Have either of you attempted to run FirstClass under WINE? My wife uses it for comtact with the OU message boards, and it's one of my big hurdles in getting her to migrate to Linux (which would give me a whole gig of HD back :-) Aq. -- Well *done*, Aquarius -- a phrase we love typing because it makes us feel like the boss-character from a 1980s Glen A Larson action series... NTK, http://www.ntk.net/index.cgi?back=archive99/now0618.txt&line=292#l [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
I've been busy though as I just started my OU degree .
Interesting I've just started my 5th year, what course are you taking.
I started a first year course "you your computer and the net" It's taught entirely on-line and this is the problem, lots of material culled out of books pdf'ed and put online so you download the required and then print it out to scribble on and take to work. I don't think I'll carry on with computers though I might go for engineering or an MBA or something.
The OU don't really embrace Linux, too many Mac types for my liking really.
Especially the FirstClass system, which is a proprietary version of Usenet, essentially. Why can't people use open standards?
Have either of you attempted to run FirstClass under WINE? My wife uses it for comtact with the OU message boards, and it's one of my big hurdles in getting her to migrate to Linux (which would give me a whole gig of HD back :-)
Unfortunately Boxen no2 has had to have Win98 installed as the software required for my course is all 98 based but I agree about first class why reinvent the wheel? Also the job I've got is a six month contract with Norfolk Constabulary doing NT and Unix support, I've only been there a few weeks but it seems alright so far, Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
Hi, My RH6.0 system has developed a serious fault. At any time in X, the machine can launch into an intense state of disk activity. The keyboard virtually hangs - with a typo delay of maybe 30 seconds per character! A hard reboot is the only exit. The hang can happen at any time. I've left the machine with a few Xclients running, returned a few hours later to find everything has ground to a halt, except the disk activity. Could a defrag or some other similar drive maintenance be running as a timed process? Is there any way I can identify what exactly is happening? I can't access another run level so can't see how else I can examine what's going on. There's nothing obviously wrong with any single X client as it can happen with any (I haven't actually noticed it happening with none though) Anyone experienced similar? Michael (Bury St Edmunds) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:51:33PM +0000, Michael wrote:
A hard reboot is the only exit.
Humour me: start a normal reboot and see how long it takes if you get chance. Unless it's completely frozen, it should still make it.
Could a defrag or some other similar drive maintenance be running as a timed process?
Something could be, but not a defrag. Linux doesn't really need a defrag as such (see http://www.netaction.org/msoft/cybersnare.html) and the drives need to be unmounted to do anything serious to them -- ie before the system has booted or on admin command.
Is there any way I can identify what exactly is happening? I can't access another run level so can't see how else I can examine what's going on.
Look at the files in /var/log and see what was going on at the time of the crash/slowdown. If you can get to a text screen, control-alt-scroll lock is a magic combination, I think. MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
Look at the files in /var/log and see what was going on at the time of the crash/slowdown. If you can get to a text screen, control-alt-scroll lock is a magic combination, I think.
Err. If you mean 'magic sysrq', then it's ALT+PrtSc+command. You need to have a kernel compiled with the right support, but if you do have, then this may save your bacon as far as data loss is concerned... Alt+PrtSc+: s - sync filesystems. u - remount filesystems read-only. b - reboot the system. So, if you press Alt+PrtSc+s, then Alt+PrtSc+u, then Alt+PrtSc+b, you stand some chance of doing slightly less damage to your filesystems. Only use magic sysrq if you have *no* alternative other than a hard reboot. Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 01:52:22AM +0000, Paul Russell wrote:
Err. If you mean 'magic sysrq'
I don't. I mean the process listing. *thunk* MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
MJ Ray wrote:
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 01:52:22AM +0000, Paul Russell wrote:
Err. If you mean 'magic sysrq'
I don't. I mean the process listing. *thunk*
You two have lost me! But here's /var/log/message - the only log file that I could see contained, in this instance, anything useful. http://www.callnet0800.com/users/ttfn36/messagelog.txt This sudden disk activity I reported, caused me to reboot at 10:10am this morning. Conventionally shutting down the system doesn't work - it just causes a hang before X has properly shut down - a screen full of half-closed windows and a completely locked keyboard. Thanks for your time btw. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
I have just spoken to a local guy who has confirmed a venue for Sunday 16th April between 2pm and 7pm the venue is Aylsham Friendship club and should be alright as there is parking. Is this date alright with people? If so I'll sort out mapsand things, and then we can sort out the announces to the mailing list and u.l.e-a and such like Adam [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Adam Bower wrote:
I have just spoken to a local guy who has confirmed a venue for Sunday 16th April between 2pm and 7pm the venue is Aylsham Friendship club and should be alright as there is parking.
That date gets my vote - should be fine with me. Everyone else? Let's make this the biggest and best ALUG yet! Andrew, suffering from a surfeit of enthusiasm this morning. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
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