Hi Can anyone suggest a good backup procedure whereby I can backup all my photos/mp3s/videos etc under /home? I could back them up to a separate drive, but I only have old hard disks (10gbs) and don't really trust them. I'd like to backup onto DVD but my /home is around 80gb Are there any good compression tools that can compress image files for backup? I'm on ubuntu 8.04 Thanks James Elsey
-----Original Message----- From: James Elsey Sent: 19 May 2008 10:22
Hi
Can anyone suggest a good backup procedure whereby I can backup all my photos/mp3s/videos etc under /home?
I could back them up to a separate drive, but I only have old hard disks (10gbs) and don't really trust them. I'd like to backup onto DVD but my /home is around 80gb
I have separate partitions for /home, pictures, documents, music, video and mail (.evolution) and mount them via fstab under my /home directory. I keep each one to 5Gb so I can back it up to DVD. <rant mode="on"> Actually not true anymore because Gnome (in their infinite wisdom) decided that any volumes mounted under /home (in addition to /media) will appear on the desktop. After several fruitless attempts to hack the Gnome configs and libraries to stop this (looks like Nautilus is the real culprit here and I'm not about to start hacking that - yet ):-> ) and seriously considering moving to Kubuntu, I ended up mounting them under /mnt and symlinking them back to my home drive. I do like a nice tidy desktop! :o) </rant> I then use the excellent SystemRescueCD to boot and create a compressed backup via PartImage of each partition (onto a gash dump partition I've set up) and then copy these to DVD. SystemRescueCD has an excellent PDF manual in the root of the CD image that tells you how to customise it. With a little effort you could automate the whole thing (apart from sticking a new DVD in the drive when necessary). Me? well I still do the whole thing by steam ATM but one day I'll get round to automating it (and a penguin will fly!!).
Are there any good compression tools that can compress image files for backup?
Well depends on the image file type. Most of them are already compressed, but, as I said, PartImage offers a compression option.
I'm on ubuntu 8.04
Snap, me too! :o)
Thanks
James Elsey
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:45:05 +0100 "Keith Watson" <keith.watson@kewill.com> allegedly wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: James Elsey Sent: 19 May 2008 10:22
Can anyone suggest a good backup procedure whereby I can backup all my photos/mp3s/videos etc under /home?
I could back them up to a separate drive, but I only have old hard disks (10gbs) and don't really trust them. I'd like to backup onto DVD but my /home is around 80gb
I have separate partitions for /home, pictures, documents, music, video and mail (.evolution) and mount them via fstab under my /home directory. I keep each one to 5Gb so I can back it up to DVD.
That seems like an awful lot of faffing about to me. Two obvious alternatives: - buy a USB drive (50 quid will get you 350-500G) and backup to that.(Hell, if you are really skint and live close enough to Long Stratton to pick it up I'll /give/ you an 80Gig USB drive) - use rsync to backup to a remote system (I backup hourly to a separate networked system) Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a Microsoft free zone. Please do not send me Microsoft Word Documents. For some reasons, see: www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mbm Sent: 19 May 2008 15:22
On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:45:05 +0100 "Keith Watson" <keith.watson@kewill.com> allegedly wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: James Elsey Sent: 19 May 2008 10:22
Can anyone suggest a good backup procedure whereby I can backup all my photos/mp3s/videos etc under /home?
I could back them up to a separate drive, but I only have old hard disks (10gbs) and don't really trust them. I'd like to backup onto DVD but my /home is around 80gb
I have separate partitions for /home, pictures, documents, music, video and mail (.evolution) and mount them via fstab under my /home directory. I keep each one to 5Gb so I can back it up to DVD.
That seems like an awful lot of faffing about to me. Two obvious alternatives:
Depends on your back-up frequency, I find once a month serves me fine and once you've set the partitions up, that's it.
- buy a USB drive (50 quid will get you 350-500G) and backup
Actually a very good point and an option I'd been seriously considering (not only for back-ups). The price of HD storage is silly these days so back up to optical media is a bit illogical.
to that.(Hell, if you are really skint and live close enough to Long Stratton to pick it up I'll /give/ you an 80Gig USB drive)
There you go James, one can't say fairer than that!! :o)
- use rsync to backup to a remote system (I backup hourly to a separate networked system)
Mick
Yes, looked at rsync, nice utility but hourly would probably be to frequent for me. Daily would be good. Keith ________________________________ IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail, and each of any attachments transmitted with it, is confidential, is the property of Kewill Systems plc ("Kewill"), and is intended solely for the information of the individual/entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. It may also be privileged or protected by other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please notify the author immediately by replying to this e-mail and then destroy/delete this e-mail and all attachments (if any). If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or rely on this e-mail. In accordance with Kewill's internal policy e-mails sent and/or received may be monitored. Whilst Kewill takes reasonable precautions (including use of anti-virus software) it accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage should this e-mail contain any virus, or similar destructive or mischievous code. C Kewill Systems plc 2007. Kewill Systems plc (1037515) - registered in England at Bramley House, The Guildway, Old Portsmouth Road, Artington, Guildford, GU3 1LR.
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 14:45 +0100, Keith Watson wrote:
I have separate partitions for /home, pictures, documents, music, video and mail (.evolution) and mount them via fstab under my /home directory. I keep each one to 5Gb so I can back it up to DVD.
Ewww So how do you cope when say you end up with 5.3 GB of music but only 1GB of pictures. I mean 5GB of Video for example is *nothing* Why not just have one /home partition and then back up to DVD's with tar using the --tape-length option to limit it to 4.7GB or whatever. The only downside of this approach that I can see is the need for a complete set of DVD's to do a restore.
<rant mode="on"> Actually not true anymore because Gnome (in their infinite wisdom) decided that any volumes mounted under /home (in addition to /media) will appear on the desktop.
gconf-editor->apps->nautilus->desktop. Although that will stop any Mounted volumes from appearing (inc removable media) so not so handy really.
After several fruitless attempts to hack the Gnome configs and libraries to stop this (looks like Nautilus is the real culprit here and I'm not about to start hacking that - yet ):-> )
Of there is one thing that annoys me about Gnome it is the lack of configurability, some things you just cannot change because they are perceived as the best and only way by the gnome devs.
On Monday 19 May 2008 10:22:13 James Elsey wrote:
I could back them up to a separate drive, but I only have old hard disks (10gbs) and don't really trust them.
You could buy new ones. USB or something. They're not too expensive these days. Especially for 80GB.
I'd like to backup onto DVD but my /home is around 80gb
Is your concern that you'd need ~18 DVDs or that you don't know how best to split the files up? If it's the later, there's always dirsplit. It's in the genisoimage package. See $ dirsplit -h for details. Otherwise, you may find that you have some success with rsync and a USB hard drive. But what do I know, my /home partition is only 6GB ;-) Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken@jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +-------------------------------------------------------+ |Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.| |http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html | +-------------------------------------------------------+
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