I saw reference to Network Manager on this list recently and decided to try it on my laptop but cannot get it to work. I find the documentation incomprehensible and I've tried to blunder my way through the setup without luck. My desktop also has a wireless card which can connect to the AP but it's normally connected by cable. I don't particularly want to use Network Manager on this. I can use my laptop wireless with an 'ordinary' setup i.e. no Network Manager. I'm running the latest Debian Etch/Testing. I have a wireless enabled Thinkpad that uses the ipw2200 driver. I'm running kernel 2.6.17. My wireless access point is a Netgear WG602 which is set to use WEP. Can I use Network Manager with this setup? Can anyone point me to a simple step by step guide to setting up Network Manager and wpa_supplicant. I think my stumbling block is wpa_supplicant. You know the sort of guide: 1. Do this 2. Do that 3. Then do this etc. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain