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scenes' stuff Access has something similar to Oracle's Row Id which is effectively a 'handle' for a row. This is what allows it to delete 'this' record. The front ends for mysql must have something similar so that when you are, for example, scrolling down a list of records there is something which tells you which record you're at. -- Chris Green (chris@areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence."