On Sun 09 May 2004, Martin@Cleaver.org wrote:

Kate - you still working on CGI::Wiki?

I haven't made any changes for a while, partly because I haven't needed any and partly because I've been ill. Does that answer the question?

Kake

On Sun 09 May 2004, Martin Cleaver wrote:

I am most sorry to hear you have been unwell. I hope you are over the worst of it.

I believe I am - though I don't want to push it :) I'm getting back into things slowly.

With respect to the Wiki::Toolkit project - are others working on it as well, or is the burden not shared?

Justin Kao sent me some scripts a while back - I'm planning to look at them this week.

Kake

On Mon 10 May 2004, Sven Dowideit svenud@ozemail.com.au wrote:

I'm curious if there is anything happening with wiki::toolkit as a few of us twiki devs are thinking of re-implementing out storage system, and are working on design at the mo :)

I'm trying to clear the decks of the smaller stuff before I get seriously involved in a rewrite. Have you got anything useful that I should look at?

Kake

On Thu 03 Jun 2004, Sven Dowideit svenud@ozemail.com.au wrote:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~spos/twiki/bin/view/Homeorgau/StoreRefactor

is the beginings of the ideas, TWiki oriented of course, but I'm interested in seeing what an intersection of the ideas can bring about

I had to read that a few times before I could make sense of it, so sorry for taking a while to reply.

I don't see why CGI::Wiki couldn't be made to cope with more than one store - after all, it just wants to know that when it asks a store for a node, it will get something consistent. See also the ideas for multiple formatters (languages); multiple stores could work this way too. The way of defining which store a node is in could be defined by the wiki application in a number of ways - keyed on the node name, having a list of "try here first, then here, then here", for example.

I'm reading it as your plan is to hierarchise things a lot more than they are in the general "flat namespace" wiki idea - is this what TWiki "topics" are all about? I do prefer having a flat namespace and letting structure evolve as the wiki is used, but I don't object to building in hierarchy support to CGI::Wiki if people want it. It is not going to be a high priority for me unless someone makes it worth my while though - giving me good reasons to do it or offering to do some of the work.

The resource hierarchy idea might be a good way to allow using more than one formatter (language) on a given page.

Finally for search I suggest you take a look at Plucene, a Perl port of Lucene.

Have I missed anything?

Kake

On Fri 11 Jun 2004, Justin Kao justin+earth@dicatek.com wrote:

Speculation: one could emulate a hierarchical namespace by differentiating between an item's name and title. The "name" would be some uniquely identifying #, while the "title" would be what humans see. Then hierarchical relationships could be represented in the metadata... (Perhaps this would require explicit CGI::Wiki support to keep the front end script from becoming a mess? I don't know.)

A plugin could do it. This was the sort of thing I was planning to eventually do with CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Categoriser.

Kake