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<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Fair enough
but shortly the job of recycling our subsidised hardware is due to get a bit
trickier for you I hope.(Assuming we've implemented SHA256 hashing
and MD5+RSA signing correctly ;-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>This isn't
an attempt to break the "fun" that you guys have been having but realistically,
if some Eastern European (for example) outfit decided to use the "backdoor"
technology you've come up with to then buy up 10,000 of our phones at £50 and
then recycle the electronics into some completely new product with their own
software or even continue to use the h/w for their own telephony then we'd
make a HUGE loss. We can't afford to run that risk so have to protect our
investment in the per unit subsidy. It's not the fact that 5 or 10 talented
engineers in the UK have managed to "break in" - that's no real problem for
us - good luck to you and your ingenuity, you got £100+ worth of electronics for
£50. In fact we owe you thanks for highlighting our security shortcomings - I'd
be interested if anyone can "break in" to newly protected hardware (OK,
desoldering the NOR doesn't count! ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I know this
sounds a bit heavy handed but otherwise it turns into Alan's famous "Apprentice"
quote of "selling £10 notes for a fiver a time" and Amstrad as a relatively
small company, just cannot afford to do that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=428221509-17062005><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Cliff</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gavin Andrews
[mailto:GavinAndrews@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 June 2005
22:51<BR><B>To:</B> e3-hacking@earth.li<BR><B>Subject:</B> [E3-hacking] Making
life easy for you<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The reason I am interested in E3
hardware recycling is that the hardware is good
value.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It makes no sense to be to buy
something at a reasonable price!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It's the subsidy that makes the E3 make
sense!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just being
realistic.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gavin<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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