aha - life is progressing a bit better with the box. S= tatus so far.
I have changed dialup to dial "1"
Using my high tech home telephone exchange

---------------------------------------------------------------------
modem            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;           STB
-----------------------|        &nbs= p;      |-----------------------------
            &nbs= p;          |   =             |
            &nbs= p;             += 12v supply

Using windows hyperterminal:-
I can now run ATA on my pc and dial on the STB this causes (i have found dia= l first the run ATA)
Dialing.....
Verifing.....
and wait for it drops the line!
BUT and most importent the two connect at 33k (yes!) this is of course the m= odem speed.
and gives gibberish on the screen (should it).
I dunno what speed to set, I presume 115200 as the speed of the modem conne= ction is not reqired as that is connection speed is TO THE modem and n= ot from the connection?

Stage 2

Using Windows XP I now add new connection/advance connection/accept in= coming (is this PPP/TCPIP??). using my modem as the connecting device. = setting as guest
Now in modem settings use the advance section add ATA in extra commands (for= the modem).

Now modem automaticly runs ata and picks the line up and then transfer begin= s between the two.
Dialing....
Verifing....

and.....................SOD ALL!!!!!!! No connection, OK chaps what now over= to you for a few pointers.

I *might* use windows 2000 server but I think the problem will be the same.=20= Only other thing to try is the serial connection on the STB (serial port 1).= I am willing to build one and try the basic program that has been listed in= one of the posts. Do I need DCD/RTS/CTS or can I just use TX/RX/GND and kee= p handshaking to none? TX pin 79 and RX pin 78.

Using the serial port will then stop the need for my fake exchange.

questions are:-
modem connection speed (PC)
TX/RX serial port connections
PPP for XP connection - could it be a case of tcp/ip id? ie 192.198.0.1?

Thanks (still having fun)

Peter

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------=_Part_132890_14349921.1067065109384-- From bush-hacking@earth.li Tue Oct 28 10:19:16 2003 From: bush-hacking@earth.li (bush-hacking@earth.li) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:19:16 EST Subject: questions, questions, questions !! Message-ID: <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> --part1_7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Ok here are a *few* more questions about the bush STB 1) How do I use the in-built modem using the preloaded BBC basic? is it something like open #1 as ????? as i need to do ATD 123456 and then use the modem as a (dumb) terminal. TX and RX I know you can do this from the testmenu but more is needed. 2) How can I save programs in basic? if I use save "xxx" then obvoiusly it cannot as it is a rom but where are the temp web pages held (scratchpad). 3) Where can I find a html help page for using RISCOS? as I cannot find anything. I cannot understand the "odd" commands dir-change directory. . - dir? ===bizzare! Also programming talking to system. Printer etc,etc. 4) I am getting a ZIP drive(!!!!). Now can I create a bootdisk from XP,98,95 or somewhere or should I use Linux? Also if I enable the zip drive I presume I can then save my basic programs? but how then can I format them for use? The box is going to be used as a dumb terminal connected to my PC via a remote DOS command prompt so I can run remote programs check emails etc. 5) Lastly if anyone has a spare box please let me know.... Thanks all Peter - lost and confused STB user. --part1_7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,
Ok here are a *few* more questions about the bush STB

1) How do I use the in-built modem using the preloaded BBC basic?
   is it something like open #1 as ????? as i need to do
   ATD 123456 and then use the modem as a (dumb) terminal. TX and=20= RX
   I know you can do this from the testmenu but more is needed.
2) How can I save programs in basic? if I use save "xxx" then obvoiusly it c= annot as it is a rom
   but where are the temp web pages held (scratchpad).

3) Where can I find a html help page for using RISCOS? as I cannot find anyt= hing. I cannot understand the "odd" commands dir-change directory. . - dir?=20= =3D=3D=3Dbizzare!

Also programming talking to system. Printer etc,etc.

4) I am getting a ZIP drive(!!!!). Now can I create a bootdisk from XP,98,95= or somewhere or should I use Linux? Also if I enable the zip drive I presum= e I can then save my basic programs? but how then can I format them for use?=

The box is going to be used as a dumb terminal connected to my PC via a remo= te DOS command prompt
so I can run remote programs check emails etc.

5) Lastly if anyone has a spare box please let me know....

Thanks all

Peter - lost and confused STB user.

--part1_7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4_boundary-- From bush-hacking@earth.li Tue Oct 28 10:35:10 2003 From: bush-hacking@earth.li (Mark Leman) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:35:10 -0000 Subject: questions, questions, questions !! In-Reply-To: <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C39D3F.29DA2AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have several spare boxes if required, could send you then to UK addresses for probably about ~?20ea (depends on exact price of postage). Regards, Mark Leman -----Original Message----- From: bush-hacking-admin@earth.li [mailto:bush-hacking-admin@earth.li]On Behalf Of Thebassetdog@aol.com Sent: 28 October 2003 10:19 To: bush-hacking@earth.li Subject: questions, questions, questions !! Hi all, Ok here are a *few* more questions about the bush STB 1) How do I use the in-built modem using the preloaded BBC basic? is it something like open #1 as ????? as i need to do ATD 123456 and then use the modem as a (dumb) terminal. TX and RX I know you can do this from the testmenu but more is needed. 2) How can I save programs in basic? if I use save "xxx" then obvoiusly it cannot as it is a rom but where are the temp web pages held (scratchpad). 3) Where can I find a html help page for using RISCOS? as I cannot find anything. I cannot understand the "odd" commands dir-change directory. . - dir? ===bizzare! Also programming talking to system. Printer etc,etc. 4) I am getting a ZIP drive(!!!!). Now can I create a bootdisk from XP,98,95 or somewhere or should I use Linux? Also if I enable the zip drive I presume I can then save my basic programs? but how then can I format them for use? The box is going to be used as a dumb terminal connected to my PC via a remote DOS command prompt so I can run remote programs check emails etc. 5) Lastly if anyone has a spare box please let me know.... Thanks all Peter - lost and confused STB user. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C39D3F.29DA2AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have=20 several spare boxes if required, could send you then to UK addresses for = probably about ~£20ea (depends on exact price of = postage).

Regards, Mark Leman

-----Original Message-----
From: = bush-hacking-admin@earth.li=20 [mailto:bush-hacking-admin@earth.li]On Behalf Of=20 Thebassetdog@aol.com
Sent: 28 October 2003 = 10:19
To:=20 bush-hacking@earth.li
Subject: questions, questions, = questions=20 !!

Hi all,
Ok here are a *few* more = questions about=20 the bush STB

1) How do I use the in-built modem using the = preloaded BBC=20 basic?
   is it something like open #1 as ????? as i need = to do=20
   ATD 123456 and then use the modem as a (dumb) = terminal. TX=20 and RX
   I know you can do this from the testmenu but = more is=20 needed.

2) How can I save programs in basic? if I use save = "xxx" then=20 obvoiusly it cannot as it is a rom
   but where are the = temp web=20 pages held (scratchpad).

3) Where can I find a html help page = for using=20 RISCOS? as I cannot find anything. I cannot understand the "odd" = commands=20 dir-change directory. . - dir? =3D=3D=3Dbizzare!

Also = programming =20 talking to system. Printer etc,etc.

4) I am getting a ZIP = drive(!!!!).=20 Now can I create a bootdisk from XP,98,95 or somewhere or should I use = Linux?=20 Also if I enable the zip drive I presume I can then save my basic = programs?=20 but how then can I format them for use?

The box is going to = be used=20 as a dumb terminal connected to my PC via a remote DOS command = prompt
so I=20 can run remote programs check emails etc.

5) Lastly if anyone = has a=20 spare box please let me know....

Thanks = all

Peter -=20 lost and confused STB = user.

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C39D3F.29DA2AD0-- From bush-hacking@earth.li Tue Oct 28 22:41:47 2003 From: bush-hacking@earth.li (Chris Sawer) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:41:47 GMT Subject: questions, questions, questions !! In-Reply-To: <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> References: <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> Thebassetdog@aol.com wrote: > 2) How can I save programs in basic? if I use save "xxx" then obvoiusly it > cannot as it is a rom I don't think you can save anything into the box's NV RAM. If you have a zip drive attached, you can of course save things to that. > but where are the temp web pages held (scratchpad). All in ROM, I think. > 3) Where can I find a html help page for using RISCOS? as I cannot find > anything. I cannot understand the "odd" commands dir-change directory. . > - dir? > ===bizzare! Not sure, but try the following commands for some more help: *help dir (info on *dir, used to change directory) *help up (info on *up, used to move up a directory) *help copy (used to copy files about) > 4) I am getting a ZIP drive(!!!!). Now can I create a bootdisk from > XP,98,95 or somewhere or should I use Linux? Also if I enable the zip drive > I presume I can then save my basic programs? but how then can I format them > for use? Have a look at my website: http://www.sawer.uklinux.net/bush/ You may have some luck formatting a zip disc using the image on my site (someone confirmed that they had success writing it using Linux). Hope this helps, Chris From bush-hacking@earth.li Tue Oct 28 22:54:19 2003 From: bush-hacking@earth.li (Jonathan McDowell) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:54:19 +0000 Subject: questions, questions, questions !! In-Reply-To: References: <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031028225418.GB30375@earth.li> On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:41:47PM +0000, Chris Sawer wrote: > In message <7b.1ba95d26.2ccf9ca4@aol.com> > Thebassetdog@aol.com wrote: > > 4) I am getting a ZIP drive(!!!!). Now can I create a bootdisk from > > XP,98,95 or somewhere or should I use Linux? Also if I enable the > > zip drive I presume I can then save my basic programs? but how then > > can I format them for use? > > Have a look at my website: > > http://www.sawer.uklinux.net/bush/ > > You may have some luck formatting a zip disc using the image on my > site (someone confirmed that they had success writing it using Linux). I wrote a Zip disk from Linux that the Bush could recognize using the zip file from your site, but the problem I then hit is that the Linux ADFS driver can't actually write files and the Bush can't seem to read anything other than ADFS. So I think you need access to a RISCOS box in order to be able to get anywhere, unless someone can make a Zip disc image available with the appropriate files on it or add write support to the Linux driver. J. -- jid: noodles@jabber.earth.li noodles is old and the storyline slots into place